• Newbie question...

    From John Garza@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 16 07:04:29 2016
    Are there any 'jump-start' packages for sale in the model rail business
    for a newbie?

    By that I mean something to get started with track
    layouts/benchwork/etc. It's easy to get trains/scenery etc. All the
    books I read say I need this magical stuff called 'homosote'. Tried
    three nearby lumber yards - nobody has heard of it. Online search says
    the nearest supplier is 33 miles from me. Not really interested in
    renting a truck just for this. I've seen Woodland Scenic benchwork but
    it looks to small and I'm not sure how sturdy it can be for that low
    price. However the scenery to go on top seems expensive for a bunch of
    foam and I'm not sure if it has the appropriate plywood/homasote substrate.

    I'm interested in building a modular layout where I can swap out say a
    forest section for a desert section, etc. Each module would have common entry/exit points for the track.

    Anything like this out there?

    -John

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  • From Wolf K@21:1/5 to John Garza on Wed Mar 16 09:46:20 2016
    On 2016-03-16 08:04, John Garza wrote:
    Are there any 'jump-start' packages for sale in the model rail business
    for a newbie?

    By that I mean something to get started with track
    layouts/benchwork/etc. It's easy to get trains/scenery etc.

    No. You can get sets, which consist of locomotive, cars, track, and
    power pack, sometimes with additional bits such as buildings. The
    benchwork is up to you.

    There are layout builders out there, too. I haven' priced them, but I
    would think layouts would cost 3 to 5 times as much as the bits and
    pieces, plus transportation and installation.

    All the
    books I read say I need this magical stuff called 'homosote'. Tried
    three nearby lumber yards - nobody has heard of it. Online search says
    the nearest supplier is 33 miles from me. Not really interested in
    renting a truck just for this.

    Current recommend practice is an open-frame substructure, with 1/2"
    plywood for base under cork ballast strip and track on that. People use Homasote when they don't want to use cork ballast strip.

    I've seen Woodland Scenic benchwork but
    it looks to small and I'm not sure how sturdy it can be for that low
    price. However the scenery to go on top seems expensive for a bunch of
    foam and I'm not sure if it has the appropriate plywood/homasote substrate.

    The sturdiness of the benchwork depends on its supports.

    I'm interested in building a modular layout where I can swap out say a
    forest section for a desert section, etc. Each module would have common entry/exit points for the track.

    Anything like this out there?

    -John

    First, get current and past issue of Model Railroader and railroad Model Craftsman.

    Commercial modules available from Sievers:
    http://sieversbenchwork.com/

    Two main modular standards, Free-mo (preferred) and HO-Trak (older,
    still used by established clubs)

    Also, many clubs have their own modular standards.

    For module standards, see:
    http://www.free-mo.org/
    http://www.hotrak.ca/
    http://www.modular-model-railroads.com/

    Warning: One of the HOTrak sites I checked out tried to inflict malware.
    Make sure your browser's bad- or insecure-site warning is turned on and
    your shields are up.

    --
    Best,
    Wolf K
    kirkwood40.blogspot.ca

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  • From Larry Blanchard@21:1/5 to John Garza on Thu Mar 17 17:15:32 2016
    On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 07:04:29 -0500, John Garza wrote:

    I'm interested in building a modular layout where I can swap out say a
    forest section for a desert section, etc. Each module would have common entry/exit points for the track.

    I'm building one like that right now. I'm not using Homasote, I'm using
    2" foam on a 1/4" plywood base and laying cork on that. Each module is
    2' by 5' and the scenic part of the layout is 2'x10'.

    I've carried your common entry/exit a bit further. I have continuous
    staging that creates a loop. From the staging to the scenic area there
    are three entry/exit points. Any scenic layout can use 1, 2, or 3 of
    those points.


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    carrying a cross.

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  • From a425couple@21:1/5 to John Garza on Fri Mar 18 09:35:18 2016
    "John Garza" <john@127.0.0.1> wrote in message news:hZbGy.53898$X_.7328@fx04.iad...
    Are there any 'jump-start' packages for sale in the model rail business
    for a newbie? ---

    I'm interested in building a modular layout where I can swap out say a
    forest section for a desert section, etc. Each module would have common entry/exit points for the track.
    Anything like this out there?

    What area of the world do you live in?

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  • From Christopher A. Lee@21:1/5 to a425couple@hotmail.com on Fri Mar 18 14:34:53 2016
    On Fri, 18 Mar 2016 09:35:18 -0700, "a425couple"
    <a425couple@hotmail.com> wrote:


    "John Garza" <john@127.0.0.1> wrote in message >news:hZbGy.53898$X_.7328@fx04.iad...
    Are there any 'jump-start' packages for sale in the model rail business
    for a newbie? ---

    I'm interested in building a modular layout where I can swap out say a
    forest section for a desert section, etc. Each module would have common
    entry/exit points for the track.
    Anything like this out there?

    What area of the world do you live in?

    My reaction too - one of the reasons I don't like N-Trak is that it
    does just that, with each different scenic part being less than a
    train's length.

    What I have seen, is a modular layout with swappable sections that
    matched scenically but represented different times - eg a dirt road
    from the steam era vs a wider modern road, or steam era facilities vs
    diesel, etc. With semaphore signals on the earlier and colour lights
    on the later.

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  • From John Garza@21:1/5 to Christopher A. Lee on Fri Mar 18 16:45:17 2016
    On 03/18/2016 02:34 PM, Christopher A. Lee wrote:
    On Fri, 18 Mar 2016 09:35:18 -0700, "a425couple"
    <a425couple@hotmail.com> wrote:


    "John Garza" <john@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
    news:hZbGy.53898$X_.7328@fx04.iad...
    Are there any 'jump-start' packages for sale in the model rail business
    for a newbie? ---

    I'm interested in building a modular layout where I can swap out say a
    forest section for a desert section, etc. Each module would have common
    entry/exit points for the track.
    Anything like this out there?

    What area of the world do you live in?

    My reaction too - one of the reasons I don't like N-Trak is that it
    does just that, with each different scenic part being less than a
    train's length.

    What I have seen, is a modular layout with swappable sections that
    matched scenically but represented different times - eg a dirt road
    from the steam era vs a wider modern road, or steam era facilities vs
    diesel, etc. With semaphore signals on the earlier and colour lights
    on the later.


    that's funny - I want to do different times with minor scenic changes
    (less trees, more pavement, etc.) But used the forest/desert example to
    get my point across because I didn't think anyone would get the idea of different 'eras' along a line. I guess I wasn't thinking about how
    silly is sounded. Well maybe if you have REALLY BIG modules... :)

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  • From Christopher A. Lee@21:1/5 to John Garza on Fri Mar 18 17:02:22 2016
    On Fri, 18 Mar 2016 16:45:17 -0500, John Garza <john@127.0.0.1> wrote:

    On 03/18/2016 02:34 PM, Christopher A. Lee wrote:
    On Fri, 18 Mar 2016 09:35:18 -0700, "a425couple"
    <a425couple@hotmail.com> wrote:


    "John Garza" <john@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
    news:hZbGy.53898$X_.7328@fx04.iad...
    Are there any 'jump-start' packages for sale in the model rail business >>>> for a newbie? ---

    I'm interested in building a modular layout where I can swap out say a >>>> forest section for a desert section, etc. Each module would have common >>>> entry/exit points for the track.
    Anything like this out there?

    What area of the world do you live in?

    My reaction too - one of the reasons I don't like N-Trak is that it
    does just that, with each different scenic part being less than a
    train's length.

    What I have seen, is a modular layout with swappable sections that
    matched scenically but represented different times - eg a dirt road
    from the steam era vs a wider modern road, or steam era facilities vs
    diesel, etc. With semaphore signals on the earlier and colour lights
    on the later.


    that's funny - I want to do different times with minor scenic changes
    (less trees, more pavement, etc.) But used the forest/desert example to
    get my point across because I didn't think anyone would get the idea of >different 'eras' along a line. I guess I wasn't thinking about how
    silly is sounded. Well maybe if you have REALLY BIG modules... :)

    I'm sure a lot of people have thought of it, but not at the level of
    modules, just removeable details, eg house styles and even TV
    antennae, the style of filling stations, etc.

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  • From Wolf K@21:1/5 to John Garza on Fri Mar 18 19:25:57 2016
    On 2016-03-18 17:45, John Garza wrote:
    On 03/18/2016 02:34 PM, Christopher A. Lee wrote:
    On Fri, 18 Mar 2016 09:35:18 -0700, "a425couple"
    <a425couple@hotmail.com> wrote:


    "John Garza" <john@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
    news:hZbGy.53898$X_.7328@fx04.iad...
    Are there any 'jump-start' packages for sale in the model rail business >>>> for a newbie? ---

    I'm interested in building a modular layout where I can swap out say a >>>> forest section for a desert section, etc. Each module would have common >>>> entry/exit points for the track.
    Anything like this out there?

    What area of the world do you live in?

    My reaction too - one of the reasons I don't like N-Trak is that it
    does just that, with each different scenic part being less than a
    train's length.

    What I have seen, is a modular layout with swappable sections that
    matched scenically but represented different times - eg a dirt road
    from the steam era vs a wider modern road, or steam era facilities vs
    diesel, etc. With semaphore signals on the earlier and colour lights
    on the later.


    that's funny - I want to do different times with minor scenic changes
    (less trees, more pavement, etc.) But used the forest/desert example to
    get my point across because I didn't think anyone would get the idea of different 'eras' along a line. I guess I wasn't thinking about how
    silly is sounded. Well maybe if you have REALLY BIG modules... :)

    Or smaller modules strung together....



    --
    Best,
    Wolf K
    kirkwood40.blogspot.ca

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  • From a425couple@21:1/5 to Christopher A. Lee on Sun Mar 20 10:33:08 2016
    "Christopher A. Lee" <c.lee@fairpoint.net> wrote in...
    "a425couple" <a425couple@hotmail.com> wrote:
    "John Garza" <john@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
    I'm interested in building a modular layout where I can swap out say a
    forest section for a desert section, etc. Each module would have common
    entry/exit points for the track.
    Anything like this out there?

    What area of the world do you live in?

    My reaction too - one of the reasons I don't like ----

    No, no, no, I'm sorry for being unclear.
    I was not being critical.
    I was sincerely interested in where (geographic location)

    In Seattle at the big train show (after Thanksgiving)
    there is every year a huge display put on by various
    members of a club putting a various number of their
    individual sections together. They have a standard
    of distances, so they can all fit together in various
    combinations.

    Meanwhile, a different local club:
    I found a big big HO layout
    near me.

    If anyone cares to view, I just found that there is a video of it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OA8bozyuMhI
    Day 285 of 365 Things To Do In Edmonds, WA
    - Swamp Creek & Railroad Association

    From earlier:
    Take a look:
    http://www.scwrra.org/layout/intro.html http://www.scwrra.org/layout/intro.html#index
    Swamp Creek & Western Railroad Association
    210 Railroad Ave. Edmonds, WA 98020

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