• Re: How gender ideology is undermining the feminist arguments for abort

    From Stephen C. Newberry@21:1/5 to Marilyn Mosby on Tue Jun 14 06:25:20 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.abortion, talk.politics.guns
    XPost: alt.politics.libertarian

    In article <s35eve$os3$26@neodome.net>
    Marilyn Mosby <lying_nigger@gmail.com> wrote:

    Amazing Answers wrote

    Enjoy your Ass Injected Death Sentence.

    For years, the pro-abortion rights movement has been a radically
    feminist cause. Now, however, many of its proponents can’t even
    bring themselves to say the word “woman.”

    Take, for example, this Washington Post editorial about the
    leaked draft opinion that revealed the Supreme Court might
    strike down Roe v. Wade and Planned Parenthood v. Casey. The
    editorial blasts the decision, which is not final, as “a
    grievous blow to freedom” and “the legitimacy of the court
    itself” and mourns the potential loss of abortion rights in some
    states as an attack on … "pregnant people."

    Indeed, not once in the entire 800-word article does the word
    “woman” appear. Instead, they are referred to as “pregnant
    individuals” or “pregnant people.” This deliberate refusal to
    refer to women as women is yet another example of gender
    ideology run amok. It is absurd and dishonest, and in this case,
    it actually undermines the very cause the editorial is backing.

    If the defense of abortion is that it is an issue of women’s
    rights, but you can’t even bring yourself to use the phrases
    “women’s rights” or “women’s bodies,” then what exactly is the
    point? For years, we’ve been told that abortion is the business
    of one sex only, but now, we can’t even refer to that sex by its
    name. Are women the only people who should get to decide whether
    they should remain pregnant, or can men also make that decision
    now since they can become pregnant? And are men the ones trying
    to legislate women’s bodies, or should we start referring to
    them as non-chest-feeding persons since not all men are actually
    men?

    Gender ideology and the conscious choice not to use gendered
    language have turned the abortion debate into a confusing game
    of who’s who. It’s no longer clear who the victims or aggressors
    are, and the argument that men shouldn’t be able to control
    women’s bodies (or, should I say, that non-chest-feeding persons
    shouldn’t be able to control pregnant individuals’ bodies) is no
    longer compelling.

    That’s why many leftists choose to put gender ideology back on
    the shelf whenever the abortion debate rears its head. They know
    it’s impossible to square the politically correct, gender-
    neutral dogma they’ve embraced with the years-old feminist
    talking points that have heretofore been successful. Here’s
    California Gov. Gavin Newsom, for instance:

    And, of course, here was the inevitable rebuke from the Woke
    Language Police:

    The Left has backed itself into this corner. It has embraced an
    ideology so illogical that it can no longer use its own past
    rhetoric or state biological facts without being accused of
    bigotry. And as a result, the Left has had to take what was
    already an unconvincing argument in favor of abortion and poke a
    dozen more holes in it.

    Now, the debate isn’t really about women or their bodies because
    there are plenty of other people besides women who can also get
    pregnant and be affected. And no longer is this a battle against
    patriarchal oppression since there are plenty of men who were
    once women and men who now claim to be women who would be
    unfairly smeared by that allegation.

    It would be funny if it weren't so damn stupid.

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/restoring-america/equality- not-elitism/how-gender-ideology-is-undermining-the-feminist-
    arguments-for-
    abortion?utm_c
    ampaign=article_rail&utm_source=internal&utm_medium=article_rail

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  • From Stephen C. Newberry@21:1/5 to Marilyn Mosby on Tue Jun 14 06:55:34 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.abortion, talk.politics.guns
    XPost: alt.politics.libertarian

    In article <rq8i3k$1hd2$1@neodome.net>
    Marilyn Mosby <lying_nigger@gmail.com> wrote:

    Amazing Answers wrote

    Enjoy your Ass Injected Death Sentence.

    For years, the pro-abortion rights movement has been a radically
    feminist cause. Now, however, many of its proponents can’t even
    bring themselves to say the word “woman.”

    Take, for example, this Washington Post editorial about the
    leaked draft opinion that revealed the Supreme Court might
    strike down Roe v. Wade and Planned Parenthood v. Casey. The
    editorial blasts the decision, which is not final, as “a
    grievous blow to freedom” and “the legitimacy of the court
    itself” and mourns the potential loss of abortion rights in some
    states as an attack on … "pregnant people."

    Indeed, not once in the entire 800-word article does the word
    “woman” appear. Instead, they are referred to as “pregnant
    individuals” or “pregnant people.” This deliberate refusal to
    refer to women as women is yet another example of gender
    ideology run amok. It is absurd and dishonest, and in this case,
    it actually undermines the very cause the editorial is backing.

    If the defense of abortion is that it is an issue of women’s
    rights, but you can’t even bring yourself to use the phrases
    “women’s rights” or “women’s bodies,” then what exactly is the
    point? For years, we’ve been told that abortion is the business
    of one sex only, but now, we can’t even refer to that sex by its
    name. Are women the only people who should get to decide whether
    they should remain pregnant, or can men also make that decision
    now since they can become pregnant? And are men the ones trying
    to legislate women’s bodies, or should we start referring to
    them as non-chest-feeding persons since not all men are actually
    men?

    Gender ideology and the conscious choice not to use gendered
    language have turned the abortion debate into a confusing game
    of who’s who. It’s no longer clear who the victims or aggressors
    are, and the argument that men shouldn’t be able to control
    women’s bodies (or, should I say, that non-chest-feeding persons
    shouldn’t be able to control pregnant individuals’ bodies) is no
    longer compelling.

    That’s why many leftists choose to put gender ideology back on
    the shelf whenever the abortion debate rears its head. They know
    it’s impossible to square the politically correct, gender-
    neutral dogma they’ve embraced with the years-old feminist
    talking points that have heretofore been successful. Here’s
    California Gov. Gavin Newsom, for instance:

    And, of course, here was the inevitable rebuke from the Woke
    Language Police:

    The Left has backed itself into this corner. It has embraced an
    ideology so illogical that it can no longer use its own past
    rhetoric or state biological facts without being accused of
    bigotry. And as a result, the Left has had to take what was
    already an unconvincing argument in favor of abortion and poke a
    dozen more holes in it.

    Now, the debate isn’t really about women or their bodies because
    there are plenty of other people besides women who can also get
    pregnant and be affected. And no longer is this a battle against
    patriarchal oppression since there are plenty of men who were
    once women and men who now claim to be women who would be
    unfairly smeared by that allegation.

    It would be funny if it weren't so damn stupid.

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/restoring-america/equality- not-elitism/how-gender-ideology-is-undermining-the-feminist-
    arguments-for-
    abortion?utm_c
    ampaign=article_rail&utm_source=internal&utm_medium=article_rail

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