• [rec.heraldry] Heraldry MFAQ: Please Read!

    From Francois R. Velde@21:1/5 to All on Thu Feb 1 07:00:03 2018
    Summary: "What are my arms?"
    Archive-name: heraldry/mfaq
    Posting-Frequency: weekly
    Last-modified: 1997/3/25
    URL: http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/mfaq


    The Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    A common variant is:

    "Some guy in a mall told me he could look up my name in a database
    and tell me my family arms? Can I trust him?"

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers these questions. We've noticed that these questions
    are usually asked by people from the US, so the answers are intended to fit
    the US context.

    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    The short answer is this: Your family probably has no coat of arms. Most families don't. Discovering whether _your_ family has arms is a
    time-consuming problem in genealogy. Anyone who claims to be able to find
    your arms simply by looking in a book or a database is either ignorant or lying.


    To explain in more detail, we have to clear up some misconceptions:

    * There is no such thing as "the arms of Smith". Arms are associated with families or lineages. A coat was inherited by a child from his parent,
    either intact or somewhat modified. But any individual's claim to use a specific historical coat of arms rests on a family link with someone acknowledged to have used those arms.

    * Many unrelated families share the same surname. (There are 2.5 million Americans named "Smith".) Sharing a surname does not mean that you share
    the right to the same arms.

    * Conversely, many families with different names have the same coat of
    arms. A coat of arms does not uniquely identify a family.

    * A fairly small fraction of society ever used coats of arms at any time.
    Only a few Smith families actually bore arms. Arms were used throughout
    the social scale, but much moreso at the top than at the bottom. Most Americans are descended from lower-class immigrants. Statistically, then,
    the chance that an immigrant ancestor of yours bore arms is not very high.

    * No one on Earth has a complete record of all coats of arms used or
    granted throughout history.

    Therefore, if your name is Smith, and a book or a guy in a mall shows you a coat of arms with the name Smith under it, that proves nothing at all. You
    are just as likely to be related to the founder of the Virginia colony, or
    the Scottish economist, or the nephew of Senator Kennedy, or none of the
    above. The guy in the mall with the database is fudging these issues and trying to sell you a pig in a poke. His database is certainly incomplete
    and probably very inaccurate, and he doesn't care about pedigrees. He is
    just out to exploit the similarity between your name and some name in his database.

    In order to determine what your arms are, we would need much more than your name: We would need your pedigree traced back to someone who used a coat of arms. The standard of proof will vary with the needs: If you are of
    Scottish descent and wish to matriculate arms with the Scottish heraldic authority, you'd better have a well-documented pedigree, probably
    stretching over several centuries. If you only want to use arms for
    yourself in a country such as the USA where heraldry is unregulated, then
    it is just a matter of satisfying yourself. Strictly genealogical matters
    are best discussed in the soc.genealogy.* hierarchy.

    On the other hand, if you do live in a country where heraldry is
    unregulated, you are free to choose arms for yourself. You can choose any
    arms you want, whether or not your family relationships entitle you to
    those arms. You may decide to choose unique arms, created especially for
    you, or borrow arms from some existing family. Some people consider it bad taste to use existing arms if you cannot prove your descent from the family that bore them. In any case, it behooves you to acquaint yourself with heraldry, its rules and its aesthetics, so that you can design, or have designed for you, a coat that pleases you and others as well.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.


    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers this question.

    The short answer is that there are no systematic meanings assigned to the charges and tinctures in arms. There is no way to look at a set of arms
    and decypher the original designer's intended symbolism.

    At various times in the history of heraldry -- mostly between the 16th and early 19th centuries, and mostly in England -- various authors tried to
    create systems of meaning for every charge and tincture in arms. Some of
    them went so far as to claim that their system had _always_ been in use,
    and therefore that the symbolism of ancient arms could be deduced from
    their charts. It was all bunk. Some heralds probably did design arms according to one or another of these systems -- which aren't consistent, by
    the way -- but we have no way of know, in general, when this was done.

    In some instances, the heraldic designer left us notes explaining why he
    chose certain charges for someone's arms. Designer's notes are almost
    standard in modern cases, but as you look further back in history, they
    quickly become an exceptional rarity. We do have a few amusing early
    examples. One herald from the Tudor period, for example, left us the information that he provided a particular knight with arms featuring an ox because the knight had been castrated in battle.

    In the absense of specific information about a set of arms, we can only
    guess what symbolism was intended by the designer. Of course, we can make informed guesses.

    Some charges are easy: Crosses were probably always intended to express Christian devotion. Lions and eagles have always represented nobility.
    And there is a small number of charges which always have a particular
    meaning: the red hand of Ulster, the royal tressure of Scotland, etc.
    But when we look at more common charges or at tinctures, there is no
    general answer.

    To go further, you need to research the person who bore the arms and the circumstances under which he received or adopted them. This research may reveal other clues to the motives of the designer.

    For example, we might find that the arms are a variant of arms held by a related family. This practice is called "cadency" and is quite common in medieval armory. A similar practice might be called "feudal cadency"; some minor noblemen adopted arms incorporating a charge from the arms of their overlords.

    Merchants and craftsmen often included the tools of the trades in their
    arms, or an attribute of their patron saint.

    Very frequently, the family name of the original owner of the arms sounds similar to the name of one of the charges used in his arms. This practice
    is called "canting" and was extremely common in medieval armorial design. Sometimes the cant is easy to recognize: A lion for "Lyons" or a fox for "Fuchs". Sometimes it takes specialized knowledge: The fish in the arms of
    "de Lucy" is called a "lucy", an archaic name for a species of pike. The
    cant can involve more than one language: An English family "Harrison" bears
    a hedgehog, called "herisson" in Middle French.

    There are other patterns of armorial design found in one part of Europe or another, at one time or another. The more we know of the history of the
    people who originally bore the arms, we more likely we can make an
    intelligent guess as to the intent of the designer of those arms. But when
    it comes right down to it, we can very seldom know for certain.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    This MFAQ written by :
    Josh Mittleman and Francois Velde. ---------------------------------------------------------------------

    --
    François R. Velde
    velde@nospam.org (replace by "heraldica")
    Heraldica Web Site: http://www.heraldica.org/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Francois R. Velde@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 1 07:00:01 2018
    Summary: "What are my arms?"
    Archive-name: heraldry/mfaq
    Posting-Frequency: weekly
    Last-modified: 1997/3/25
    URL: http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/mfaq


    The Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    A common variant is:

    "Some guy in a mall told me he could look up my name in a database
    and tell me my family arms? Can I trust him?"

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers these questions. We've noticed that these questions
    are usually asked by people from the US, so the answers are intended to fit
    the US context.

    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    The short answer is this: Your family probably has no coat of arms. Most families don't. Discovering whether _your_ family has arms is a
    time-consuming problem in genealogy. Anyone who claims to be able to find
    your arms simply by looking in a book or a database is either ignorant or lying.


    To explain in more detail, we have to clear up some misconceptions:

    * There is no such thing as "the arms of Smith". Arms are associated with families or lineages. A coat was inherited by a child from his parent,
    either intact or somewhat modified. But any individual's claim to use a specific historical coat of arms rests on a family link with someone acknowledged to have used those arms.

    * Many unrelated families share the same surname. (There are 2.5 million Americans named "Smith".) Sharing a surname does not mean that you share
    the right to the same arms.

    * Conversely, many families with different names have the same coat of
    arms. A coat of arms does not uniquely identify a family.

    * A fairly small fraction of society ever used coats of arms at any time.
    Only a few Smith families actually bore arms. Arms were used throughout
    the social scale, but much moreso at the top than at the bottom. Most Americans are descended from lower-class immigrants. Statistically, then,
    the chance that an immigrant ancestor of yours bore arms is not very high.

    * No one on Earth has a complete record of all coats of arms used or
    granted throughout history.

    Therefore, if your name is Smith, and a book or a guy in a mall shows you a coat of arms with the name Smith under it, that proves nothing at all. You
    are just as likely to be related to the founder of the Virginia colony, or
    the Scottish economist, or the nephew of Senator Kennedy, or none of the
    above. The guy in the mall with the database is fudging these issues and trying to sell you a pig in a poke. His database is certainly incomplete
    and probably very inaccurate, and he doesn't care about pedigrees. He is
    just out to exploit the similarity between your name and some name in his database.

    In order to determine what your arms are, we would need much more than your name: We would need your pedigree traced back to someone who used a coat of arms. The standard of proof will vary with the needs: If you are of
    Scottish descent and wish to matriculate arms with the Scottish heraldic authority, you'd better have a well-documented pedigree, probably
    stretching over several centuries. If you only want to use arms for
    yourself in a country such as the USA where heraldry is unregulated, then
    it is just a matter of satisfying yourself. Strictly genealogical matters
    are best discussed in the soc.genealogy.* hierarchy.

    On the other hand, if you do live in a country where heraldry is
    unregulated, you are free to choose arms for yourself. You can choose any
    arms you want, whether or not your family relationships entitle you to
    those arms. You may decide to choose unique arms, created especially for
    you, or borrow arms from some existing family. Some people consider it bad taste to use existing arms if you cannot prove your descent from the family that bore them. In any case, it behooves you to acquaint yourself with heraldry, its rules and its aesthetics, so that you can design, or have designed for you, a coat that pleases you and others as well.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.


    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers this question.

    The short answer is that there are no systematic meanings assigned to the charges and tinctures in arms. There is no way to look at a set of arms
    and decypher the original designer's intended symbolism.

    At various times in the history of heraldry -- mostly between the 16th and early 19th centuries, and mostly in England -- various authors tried to
    create systems of meaning for every charge and tincture in arms. Some of
    them went so far as to claim that their system had _always_ been in use,
    and therefore that the symbolism of ancient arms could be deduced from
    their charts. It was all bunk. Some heralds probably did design arms according to one or another of these systems -- which aren't consistent, by
    the way -- but we have no way of know, in general, when this was done.

    In some instances, the heraldic designer left us notes explaining why he
    chose certain charges for someone's arms. Designer's notes are almost
    standard in modern cases, but as you look further back in history, they
    quickly become an exceptional rarity. We do have a few amusing early
    examples. One herald from the Tudor period, for example, left us the information that he provided a particular knight with arms featuring an ox because the knight had been castrated in battle.

    In the absense of specific information about a set of arms, we can only
    guess what symbolism was intended by the designer. Of course, we can make informed guesses.

    Some charges are easy: Crosses were probably always intended to express Christian devotion. Lions and eagles have always represented nobility.
    And there is a small number of charges which always have a particular
    meaning: the red hand of Ulster, the royal tressure of Scotland, etc.
    But when we look at more common charges or at tinctures, there is no
    general answer.

    To go further, you need to research the person who bore the arms and the circumstances under which he received or adopted them. This research may reveal other clues to the motives of the designer.

    For example, we might find that the arms are a variant of arms held by a related family. This practice is called "cadency" and is quite common in medieval armory. A similar practice might be called "feudal cadency"; some minor noblemen adopted arms incorporating a charge from the arms of their overlords.

    Merchants and craftsmen often included the tools of the trades in their
    arms, or an attribute of their patron saint.

    Very frequently, the family name of the original owner of the arms sounds similar to the name of one of the charges used in his arms. This practice
    is called "canting" and was extremely common in medieval armorial design. Sometimes the cant is easy to recognize: A lion for "Lyons" or a fox for "Fuchs". Sometimes it takes specialized knowledge: The fish in the arms of
    "de Lucy" is called a "lucy", an archaic name for a species of pike. The
    cant can involve more than one language: An English family "Harrison" bears
    a hedgehog, called "herisson" in Middle French.

    There are other patterns of armorial design found in one part of Europe or another, at one time or another. The more we know of the history of the
    people who originally bore the arms, we more likely we can make an
    intelligent guess as to the intent of the designer of those arms. But when
    it comes right down to it, we can very seldom know for certain.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    This MFAQ written by :
    Josh Mittleman and Francois Velde. ---------------------------------------------------------------------

    --
    François R. Velde
    velde@nospam.org (replace by "heraldica")
    Heraldica Web Site: http://www.heraldica.org/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Francois R. Velde@21:1/5 to All on Sun Apr 1 06:00:02 2018
    Summary: "What are my arms?"
    Archive-name: heraldry/mfaq
    Posting-Frequency: weekly
    Last-modified: 1997/3/25
    URL: http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/mfaq


    The Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    A common variant is:

    "Some guy in a mall told me he could look up my name in a database
    and tell me my family arms? Can I trust him?"

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers these questions. We've noticed that these questions
    are usually asked by people from the US, so the answers are intended to fit
    the US context.

    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    The short answer is this: Your family probably has no coat of arms. Most families don't. Discovering whether _your_ family has arms is a
    time-consuming problem in genealogy. Anyone who claims to be able to find
    your arms simply by looking in a book or a database is either ignorant or lying.


    To explain in more detail, we have to clear up some misconceptions:

    * There is no such thing as "the arms of Smith". Arms are associated with families or lineages. A coat was inherited by a child from his parent,
    either intact or somewhat modified. But any individual's claim to use a specific historical coat of arms rests on a family link with someone acknowledged to have used those arms.

    * Many unrelated families share the same surname. (There are 2.5 million Americans named "Smith".) Sharing a surname does not mean that you share
    the right to the same arms.

    * Conversely, many families with different names have the same coat of
    arms. A coat of arms does not uniquely identify a family.

    * A fairly small fraction of society ever used coats of arms at any time.
    Only a few Smith families actually bore arms. Arms were used throughout
    the social scale, but much moreso at the top than at the bottom. Most Americans are descended from lower-class immigrants. Statistically, then,
    the chance that an immigrant ancestor of yours bore arms is not very high.

    * No one on Earth has a complete record of all coats of arms used or
    granted throughout history.

    Therefore, if your name is Smith, and a book or a guy in a mall shows you a coat of arms with the name Smith under it, that proves nothing at all. You
    are just as likely to be related to the founder of the Virginia colony, or
    the Scottish economist, or the nephew of Senator Kennedy, or none of the
    above. The guy in the mall with the database is fudging these issues and trying to sell you a pig in a poke. His database is certainly incomplete
    and probably very inaccurate, and he doesn't care about pedigrees. He is
    just out to exploit the similarity between your name and some name in his database.

    In order to determine what your arms are, we would need much more than your name: We would need your pedigree traced back to someone who used a coat of arms. The standard of proof will vary with the needs: If you are of
    Scottish descent and wish to matriculate arms with the Scottish heraldic authority, you'd better have a well-documented pedigree, probably
    stretching over several centuries. If you only want to use arms for
    yourself in a country such as the USA where heraldry is unregulated, then
    it is just a matter of satisfying yourself. Strictly genealogical matters
    are best discussed in the soc.genealogy.* hierarchy.

    On the other hand, if you do live in a country where heraldry is
    unregulated, you are free to choose arms for yourself. You can choose any
    arms you want, whether or not your family relationships entitle you to
    those arms. You may decide to choose unique arms, created especially for
    you, or borrow arms from some existing family. Some people consider it bad taste to use existing arms if you cannot prove your descent from the family that bore them. In any case, it behooves you to acquaint yourself with heraldry, its rules and its aesthetics, so that you can design, or have designed for you, a coat that pleases you and others as well.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.


    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers this question.

    The short answer is that there are no systematic meanings assigned to the charges and tinctures in arms. There is no way to look at a set of arms
    and decypher the original designer's intended symbolism.

    At various times in the history of heraldry -- mostly between the 16th and early 19th centuries, and mostly in England -- various authors tried to
    create systems of meaning for every charge and tincture in arms. Some of
    them went so far as to claim that their system had _always_ been in use,
    and therefore that the symbolism of ancient arms could be deduced from
    their charts. It was all bunk. Some heralds probably did design arms according to one or another of these systems -- which aren't consistent, by
    the way -- but we have no way of know, in general, when this was done.

    In some instances, the heraldic designer left us notes explaining why he
    chose certain charges for someone's arms. Designer's notes are almost
    standard in modern cases, but as you look further back in history, they
    quickly become an exceptional rarity. We do have a few amusing early
    examples. One herald from the Tudor period, for example, left us the information that he provided a particular knight with arms featuring an ox because the knight had been castrated in battle.

    In the absense of specific information about a set of arms, we can only
    guess what symbolism was intended by the designer. Of course, we can make informed guesses.

    Some charges are easy: Crosses were probably always intended to express Christian devotion. Lions and eagles have always represented nobility.
    And there is a small number of charges which always have a particular
    meaning: the red hand of Ulster, the royal tressure of Scotland, etc.
    But when we look at more common charges or at tinctures, there is no
    general answer.

    To go further, you need to research the person who bore the arms and the circumstances under which he received or adopted them. This research may reveal other clues to the motives of the designer.

    For example, we might find that the arms are a variant of arms held by a related family. This practice is called "cadency" and is quite common in medieval armory. A similar practice might be called "feudal cadency"; some minor noblemen adopted arms incorporating a charge from the arms of their overlords.

    Merchants and craftsmen often included the tools of the trades in their
    arms, or an attribute of their patron saint.

    Very frequently, the family name of the original owner of the arms sounds similar to the name of one of the charges used in his arms. This practice
    is called "canting" and was extremely common in medieval armorial design. Sometimes the cant is easy to recognize: A lion for "Lyons" or a fox for "Fuchs". Sometimes it takes specialized knowledge: The fish in the arms of
    "de Lucy" is called a "lucy", an archaic name for a species of pike. The
    cant can involve more than one language: An English family "Harrison" bears
    a hedgehog, called "herisson" in Middle French.

    There are other patterns of armorial design found in one part of Europe or another, at one time or another. The more we know of the history of the
    people who originally bore the arms, we more likely we can make an
    intelligent guess as to the intent of the designer of those arms. But when
    it comes right down to it, we can very seldom know for certain.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    This MFAQ written by :
    Josh Mittleman and Francois Velde. ---------------------------------------------------------------------

    --
    François R. Velde
    velde@nospam.org (replace by "heraldica")
    Heraldica Web Site: http://www.heraldica.org/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Francois R. Velde@21:1/5 to All on Tue May 1 06:00:03 2018
    Summary: "What are my arms?"
    Archive-name: heraldry/mfaq
    Posting-Frequency: weekly
    Last-modified: 1997/3/25
    URL: http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/mfaq


    The Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    A common variant is:

    "Some guy in a mall told me he could look up my name in a database
    and tell me my family arms? Can I trust him?"

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers these questions. We've noticed that these questions
    are usually asked by people from the US, so the answers are intended to fit
    the US context.

    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    The short answer is this: Your family probably has no coat of arms. Most families don't. Discovering whether _your_ family has arms is a
    time-consuming problem in genealogy. Anyone who claims to be able to find
    your arms simply by looking in a book or a database is either ignorant or lying.


    To explain in more detail, we have to clear up some misconceptions:

    * There is no such thing as "the arms of Smith". Arms are associated with families or lineages. A coat was inherited by a child from his parent,
    either intact or somewhat modified. But any individual's claim to use a specific historical coat of arms rests on a family link with someone acknowledged to have used those arms.

    * Many unrelated families share the same surname. (There are 2.5 million Americans named "Smith".) Sharing a surname does not mean that you share
    the right to the same arms.

    * Conversely, many families with different names have the same coat of
    arms. A coat of arms does not uniquely identify a family.

    * A fairly small fraction of society ever used coats of arms at any time.
    Only a few Smith families actually bore arms. Arms were used throughout
    the social scale, but much moreso at the top than at the bottom. Most Americans are descended from lower-class immigrants. Statistically, then,
    the chance that an immigrant ancestor of yours bore arms is not very high.

    * No one on Earth has a complete record of all coats of arms used or
    granted throughout history.

    Therefore, if your name is Smith, and a book or a guy in a mall shows you a coat of arms with the name Smith under it, that proves nothing at all. You
    are just as likely to be related to the founder of the Virginia colony, or
    the Scottish economist, or the nephew of Senator Kennedy, or none of the
    above. The guy in the mall with the database is fudging these issues and trying to sell you a pig in a poke. His database is certainly incomplete
    and probably very inaccurate, and he doesn't care about pedigrees. He is
    just out to exploit the similarity between your name and some name in his database.

    In order to determine what your arms are, we would need much more than your name: We would need your pedigree traced back to someone who used a coat of arms. The standard of proof will vary with the needs: If you are of
    Scottish descent and wish to matriculate arms with the Scottish heraldic authority, you'd better have a well-documented pedigree, probably
    stretching over several centuries. If you only want to use arms for
    yourself in a country such as the USA where heraldry is unregulated, then
    it is just a matter of satisfying yourself. Strictly genealogical matters
    are best discussed in the soc.genealogy.* hierarchy.

    On the other hand, if you do live in a country where heraldry is
    unregulated, you are free to choose arms for yourself. You can choose any
    arms you want, whether or not your family relationships entitle you to
    those arms. You may decide to choose unique arms, created especially for
    you, or borrow arms from some existing family. Some people consider it bad taste to use existing arms if you cannot prove your descent from the family that bore them. In any case, it behooves you to acquaint yourself with heraldry, its rules and its aesthetics, so that you can design, or have designed for you, a coat that pleases you and others as well.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.


    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers this question.

    The short answer is that there are no systematic meanings assigned to the charges and tinctures in arms. There is no way to look at a set of arms
    and decypher the original designer's intended symbolism.

    At various times in the history of heraldry -- mostly between the 16th and early 19th centuries, and mostly in England -- various authors tried to
    create systems of meaning for every charge and tincture in arms. Some of
    them went so far as to claim that their system had _always_ been in use,
    and therefore that the symbolism of ancient arms could be deduced from
    their charts. It was all bunk. Some heralds probably did design arms according to one or another of these systems -- which aren't consistent, by
    the way -- but we have no way of know, in general, when this was done.

    In some instances, the heraldic designer left us notes explaining why he
    chose certain charges for someone's arms. Designer's notes are almost
    standard in modern cases, but as you look further back in history, they
    quickly become an exceptional rarity. We do have a few amusing early
    examples. One herald from the Tudor period, for example, left us the information that he provided a particular knight with arms featuring an ox because the knight had been castrated in battle.

    In the absense of specific information about a set of arms, we can only
    guess what symbolism was intended by the designer. Of course, we can make informed guesses.

    Some charges are easy: Crosses were probably always intended to express Christian devotion. Lions and eagles have always represented nobility.
    And there is a small number of charges which always have a particular
    meaning: the red hand of Ulster, the royal tressure of Scotland, etc.
    But when we look at more common charges or at tinctures, there is no
    general answer.

    To go further, you need to research the person who bore the arms and the circumstances under which he received or adopted them. This research may reveal other clues to the motives of the designer.

    For example, we might find that the arms are a variant of arms held by a related family. This practice is called "cadency" and is quite common in medieval armory. A similar practice might be called "feudal cadency"; some minor noblemen adopted arms incorporating a charge from the arms of their overlords.

    Merchants and craftsmen often included the tools of the trades in their
    arms, or an attribute of their patron saint.

    Very frequently, the family name of the original owner of the arms sounds similar to the name of one of the charges used in his arms. This practice
    is called "canting" and was extremely common in medieval armorial design. Sometimes the cant is easy to recognize: A lion for "Lyons" or a fox for "Fuchs". Sometimes it takes specialized knowledge: The fish in the arms of
    "de Lucy" is called a "lucy", an archaic name for a species of pike. The
    cant can involve more than one language: An English family "Harrison" bears
    a hedgehog, called "herisson" in Middle French.

    There are other patterns of armorial design found in one part of Europe or another, at one time or another. The more we know of the history of the
    people who originally bore the arms, we more likely we can make an
    intelligent guess as to the intent of the designer of those arms. But when
    it comes right down to it, we can very seldom know for certain.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    This MFAQ written by :
    Josh Mittleman and Francois Velde. ---------------------------------------------------------------------

    --
    François R. Velde
    velde@nospam.org (replace by "heraldica")
    Heraldica Web Site: http://www.heraldica.org/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Francois R. Velde@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jun 1 06:00:02 2018
    Summary: "What are my arms?"
    Archive-name: heraldry/mfaq
    Posting-Frequency: weekly
    Last-modified: 1997/3/25
    URL: http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/mfaq


    The Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    A common variant is:

    "Some guy in a mall told me he could look up my name in a database
    and tell me my family arms? Can I trust him?"

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers these questions. We've noticed that these questions
    are usually asked by people from the US, so the answers are intended to fit
    the US context.

    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    The short answer is this: Your family probably has no coat of arms. Most families don't. Discovering whether _your_ family has arms is a
    time-consuming problem in genealogy. Anyone who claims to be able to find
    your arms simply by looking in a book or a database is either ignorant or lying.


    To explain in more detail, we have to clear up some misconceptions:

    * There is no such thing as "the arms of Smith". Arms are associated with families or lineages. A coat was inherited by a child from his parent,
    either intact or somewhat modified. But any individual's claim to use a specific historical coat of arms rests on a family link with someone acknowledged to have used those arms.

    * Many unrelated families share the same surname. (There are 2.5 million Americans named "Smith".) Sharing a surname does not mean that you share
    the right to the same arms.

    * Conversely, many families with different names have the same coat of
    arms. A coat of arms does not uniquely identify a family.

    * A fairly small fraction of society ever used coats of arms at any time.
    Only a few Smith families actually bore arms. Arms were used throughout
    the social scale, but much moreso at the top than at the bottom. Most Americans are descended from lower-class immigrants. Statistically, then,
    the chance that an immigrant ancestor of yours bore arms is not very high.

    * No one on Earth has a complete record of all coats of arms used or
    granted throughout history.

    Therefore, if your name is Smith, and a book or a guy in a mall shows you a coat of arms with the name Smith under it, that proves nothing at all. You
    are just as likely to be related to the founder of the Virginia colony, or
    the Scottish economist, or the nephew of Senator Kennedy, or none of the
    above. The guy in the mall with the database is fudging these issues and trying to sell you a pig in a poke. His database is certainly incomplete
    and probably very inaccurate, and he doesn't care about pedigrees. He is
    just out to exploit the similarity between your name and some name in his database.

    In order to determine what your arms are, we would need much more than your name: We would need your pedigree traced back to someone who used a coat of arms. The standard of proof will vary with the needs: If you are of
    Scottish descent and wish to matriculate arms with the Scottish heraldic authority, you'd better have a well-documented pedigree, probably
    stretching over several centuries. If you only want to use arms for
    yourself in a country such as the USA where heraldry is unregulated, then
    it is just a matter of satisfying yourself. Strictly genealogical matters
    are best discussed in the soc.genealogy.* hierarchy.

    On the other hand, if you do live in a country where heraldry is
    unregulated, you are free to choose arms for yourself. You can choose any
    arms you want, whether or not your family relationships entitle you to
    those arms. You may decide to choose unique arms, created especially for
    you, or borrow arms from some existing family. Some people consider it bad taste to use existing arms if you cannot prove your descent from the family that bore them. In any case, it behooves you to acquaint yourself with heraldry, its rules and its aesthetics, so that you can design, or have designed for you, a coat that pleases you and others as well.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.


    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers this question.

    The short answer is that there are no systematic meanings assigned to the charges and tinctures in arms. There is no way to look at a set of arms
    and decypher the original designer's intended symbolism.

    At various times in the history of heraldry -- mostly between the 16th and early 19th centuries, and mostly in England -- various authors tried to
    create systems of meaning for every charge and tincture in arms. Some of
    them went so far as to claim that their system had _always_ been in use,
    and therefore that the symbolism of ancient arms could be deduced from
    their charts. It was all bunk. Some heralds probably did design arms according to one or another of these systems -- which aren't consistent, by
    the way -- but we have no way of know, in general, when this was done.

    In some instances, the heraldic designer left us notes explaining why he
    chose certain charges for someone's arms. Designer's notes are almost
    standard in modern cases, but as you look further back in history, they
    quickly become an exceptional rarity. We do have a few amusing early
    examples. One herald from the Tudor period, for example, left us the information that he provided a particular knight with arms featuring an ox because the knight had been castrated in battle.

    In the absense of specific information about a set of arms, we can only
    guess what symbolism was intended by the designer. Of course, we can make informed guesses.

    Some charges are easy: Crosses were probably always intended to express Christian devotion. Lions and eagles have always represented nobility.
    And there is a small number of charges which always have a particular
    meaning: the red hand of Ulster, the royal tressure of Scotland, etc.
    But when we look at more common charges or at tinctures, there is no
    general answer.

    To go further, you need to research the person who bore the arms and the circumstances under which he received or adopted them. This research may reveal other clues to the motives of the designer.

    For example, we might find that the arms are a variant of arms held by a related family. This practice is called "cadency" and is quite common in medieval armory. A similar practice might be called "feudal cadency"; some minor noblemen adopted arms incorporating a charge from the arms of their overlords.

    Merchants and craftsmen often included the tools of the trades in their
    arms, or an attribute of their patron saint.

    Very frequently, the family name of the original owner of the arms sounds similar to the name of one of the charges used in his arms. This practice
    is called "canting" and was extremely common in medieval armorial design. Sometimes the cant is easy to recognize: A lion for "Lyons" or a fox for "Fuchs". Sometimes it takes specialized knowledge: The fish in the arms of
    "de Lucy" is called a "lucy", an archaic name for a species of pike. The
    cant can involve more than one language: An English family "Harrison" bears
    a hedgehog, called "herisson" in Middle French.

    There are other patterns of armorial design found in one part of Europe or another, at one time or another. The more we know of the history of the
    people who originally bore the arms, we more likely we can make an
    intelligent guess as to the intent of the designer of those arms. But when
    it comes right down to it, we can very seldom know for certain.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    This MFAQ written by :
    Josh Mittleman and Francois Velde. ---------------------------------------------------------------------

    --
    François R. Velde
    velde@nospam.org (replace by "heraldica")
    Heraldica Web Site: http://www.heraldica.org/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Francois R. Velde@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 1 06:00:04 2018
    Summary: "What are my arms?"
    Archive-name: heraldry/mfaq
    Posting-Frequency: weekly
    Last-modified: 1997/3/25
    URL: http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/mfaq


    The Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    A common variant is:

    "Some guy in a mall told me he could look up my name in a database
    and tell me my family arms? Can I trust him?"

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers these questions. We've noticed that these questions
    are usually asked by people from the US, so the answers are intended to fit
    the US context.

    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    The short answer is this: Your family probably has no coat of arms. Most families don't. Discovering whether _your_ family has arms is a
    time-consuming problem in genealogy. Anyone who claims to be able to find
    your arms simply by looking in a book or a database is either ignorant or lying.


    To explain in more detail, we have to clear up some misconceptions:

    * There is no such thing as "the arms of Smith". Arms are associated with families or lineages. A coat was inherited by a child from his parent,
    either intact or somewhat modified. But any individual's claim to use a specific historical coat of arms rests on a family link with someone acknowledged to have used those arms.

    * Many unrelated families share the same surname. (There are 2.5 million Americans named "Smith".) Sharing a surname does not mean that you share
    the right to the same arms.

    * Conversely, many families with different names have the same coat of
    arms. A coat of arms does not uniquely identify a family.

    * A fairly small fraction of society ever used coats of arms at any time.
    Only a few Smith families actually bore arms. Arms were used throughout
    the social scale, but much moreso at the top than at the bottom. Most Americans are descended from lower-class immigrants. Statistically, then,
    the chance that an immigrant ancestor of yours bore arms is not very high.

    * No one on Earth has a complete record of all coats of arms used or
    granted throughout history.

    Therefore, if your name is Smith, and a book or a guy in a mall shows you a coat of arms with the name Smith under it, that proves nothing at all. You
    are just as likely to be related to the founder of the Virginia colony, or
    the Scottish economist, or the nephew of Senator Kennedy, or none of the
    above. The guy in the mall with the database is fudging these issues and trying to sell you a pig in a poke. His database is certainly incomplete
    and probably very inaccurate, and he doesn't care about pedigrees. He is
    just out to exploit the similarity between your name and some name in his database.

    In order to determine what your arms are, we would need much more than your name: We would need your pedigree traced back to someone who used a coat of arms. The standard of proof will vary with the needs: If you are of
    Scottish descent and wish to matriculate arms with the Scottish heraldic authority, you'd better have a well-documented pedigree, probably
    stretching over several centuries. If you only want to use arms for
    yourself in a country such as the USA where heraldry is unregulated, then
    it is just a matter of satisfying yourself. Strictly genealogical matters
    are best discussed in the soc.genealogy.* hierarchy.

    On the other hand, if you do live in a country where heraldry is
    unregulated, you are free to choose arms for yourself. You can choose any
    arms you want, whether or not your family relationships entitle you to
    those arms. You may decide to choose unique arms, created especially for
    you, or borrow arms from some existing family. Some people consider it bad taste to use existing arms if you cannot prove your descent from the family that bore them. In any case, it behooves you to acquaint yourself with heraldry, its rules and its aesthetics, so that you can design, or have designed for you, a coat that pleases you and others as well.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.


    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers this question.

    The short answer is that there are no systematic meanings assigned to the charges and tinctures in arms. There is no way to look at a set of arms
    and decypher the original designer's intended symbolism.

    At various times in the history of heraldry -- mostly between the 16th and early 19th centuries, and mostly in England -- various authors tried to
    create systems of meaning for every charge and tincture in arms. Some of
    them went so far as to claim that their system had _always_ been in use,
    and therefore that the symbolism of ancient arms could be deduced from
    their charts. It was all bunk. Some heralds probably did design arms according to one or another of these systems -- which aren't consistent, by
    the way -- but we have no way of know, in general, when this was done.

    In some instances, the heraldic designer left us notes explaining why he
    chose certain charges for someone's arms. Designer's notes are almost
    standard in modern cases, but as you look further back in history, they
    quickly become an exceptional rarity. We do have a few amusing early
    examples. One herald from the Tudor period, for example, left us the information that he provided a particular knight with arms featuring an ox because the knight had been castrated in battle.

    In the absense of specific information about a set of arms, we can only
    guess what symbolism was intended by the designer. Of course, we can make informed guesses.

    Some charges are easy: Crosses were probably always intended to express Christian devotion. Lions and eagles have always represented nobility.
    And there is a small number of charges which always have a particular
    meaning: the red hand of Ulster, the royal tressure of Scotland, etc.
    But when we look at more common charges or at tinctures, there is no
    general answer.

    To go further, you need to research the person who bore the arms and the circumstances under which he received or adopted them. This research may reveal other clues to the motives of the designer.

    For example, we might find that the arms are a variant of arms held by a related family. This practice is called "cadency" and is quite common in medieval armory. A similar practice might be called "feudal cadency"; some minor noblemen adopted arms incorporating a charge from the arms of their overlords.

    Merchants and craftsmen often included the tools of the trades in their
    arms, or an attribute of their patron saint.

    Very frequently, the family name of the original owner of the arms sounds similar to the name of one of the charges used in his arms. This practice
    is called "canting" and was extremely common in medieval armorial design. Sometimes the cant is easy to recognize: A lion for "Lyons" or a fox for "Fuchs". Sometimes it takes specialized knowledge: The fish in the arms of
    "de Lucy" is called a "lucy", an archaic name for a species of pike. The
    cant can involve more than one language: An English family "Harrison" bears
    a hedgehog, called "herisson" in Middle French.

    There are other patterns of armorial design found in one part of Europe or another, at one time or another. The more we know of the history of the
    people who originally bore the arms, we more likely we can make an
    intelligent guess as to the intent of the designer of those arms. But when
    it comes right down to it, we can very seldom know for certain.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    This MFAQ written by :
    Josh Mittleman and Francois Velde. ---------------------------------------------------------------------

    --
    François R. Velde
    velde@nospam.org (replace by "heraldica")
    Heraldica Web Site: http://www.heraldica.org/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Francois R. Velde@21:1/5 to All on Wed Aug 1 06:00:04 2018
    Summary: "What are my arms?"
    Archive-name: heraldry/mfaq
    Posting-Frequency: weekly
    Last-modified: 1997/3/25
    URL: http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/mfaq


    The Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    A common variant is:

    "Some guy in a mall told me he could look up my name in a database
    and tell me my family arms? Can I trust him?"

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers these questions. We've noticed that these questions
    are usually asked by people from the US, so the answers are intended to fit
    the US context.

    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    The short answer is this: Your family probably has no coat of arms. Most families don't. Discovering whether _your_ family has arms is a
    time-consuming problem in genealogy. Anyone who claims to be able to find
    your arms simply by looking in a book or a database is either ignorant or lying.


    To explain in more detail, we have to clear up some misconceptions:

    * There is no such thing as "the arms of Smith". Arms are associated with families or lineages. A coat was inherited by a child from his parent,
    either intact or somewhat modified. But any individual's claim to use a specific historical coat of arms rests on a family link with someone acknowledged to have used those arms.

    * Many unrelated families share the same surname. (There are 2.5 million Americans named "Smith".) Sharing a surname does not mean that you share
    the right to the same arms.

    * Conversely, many families with different names have the same coat of
    arms. A coat of arms does not uniquely identify a family.

    * A fairly small fraction of society ever used coats of arms at any time.
    Only a few Smith families actually bore arms. Arms were used throughout
    the social scale, but much moreso at the top than at the bottom. Most Americans are descended from lower-class immigrants. Statistically, then,
    the chance that an immigrant ancestor of yours bore arms is not very high.

    * No one on Earth has a complete record of all coats of arms used or
    granted throughout history.

    Therefore, if your name is Smith, and a book or a guy in a mall shows you a coat of arms with the name Smith under it, that proves nothing at all. You
    are just as likely to be related to the founder of the Virginia colony, or
    the Scottish economist, or the nephew of Senator Kennedy, or none of the
    above. The guy in the mall with the database is fudging these issues and trying to sell you a pig in a poke. His database is certainly incomplete
    and probably very inaccurate, and he doesn't care about pedigrees. He is
    just out to exploit the similarity between your name and some name in his database.

    In order to determine what your arms are, we would need much more than your name: We would need your pedigree traced back to someone who used a coat of arms. The standard of proof will vary with the needs: If you are of
    Scottish descent and wish to matriculate arms with the Scottish heraldic authority, you'd better have a well-documented pedigree, probably
    stretching over several centuries. If you only want to use arms for
    yourself in a country such as the USA where heraldry is unregulated, then
    it is just a matter of satisfying yourself. Strictly genealogical matters
    are best discussed in the soc.genealogy.* hierarchy.

    On the other hand, if you do live in a country where heraldry is
    unregulated, you are free to choose arms for yourself. You can choose any
    arms you want, whether or not your family relationships entitle you to
    those arms. You may decide to choose unique arms, created especially for
    you, or borrow arms from some existing family. Some people consider it bad taste to use existing arms if you cannot prove your descent from the family that bore them. In any case, it behooves you to acquaint yourself with heraldry, its rules and its aesthetics, so that you can design, or have designed for you, a coat that pleases you and others as well.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.


    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers this question.

    The short answer is that there are no systematic meanings assigned to the charges and tinctures in arms. There is no way to look at a set of arms
    and decypher the original designer's intended symbolism.

    At various times in the history of heraldry -- mostly between the 16th and early 19th centuries, and mostly in England -- various authors tried to
    create systems of meaning for every charge and tincture in arms. Some of
    them went so far as to claim that their system had _always_ been in use,
    and therefore that the symbolism of ancient arms could be deduced from
    their charts. It was all bunk. Some heralds probably did design arms according to one or another of these systems -- which aren't consistent, by
    the way -- but we have no way of know, in general, when this was done.

    In some instances, the heraldic designer left us notes explaining why he
    chose certain charges for someone's arms. Designer's notes are almost
    standard in modern cases, but as you look further back in history, they
    quickly become an exceptional rarity. We do have a few amusing early
    examples. One herald from the Tudor period, for example, left us the information that he provided a particular knight with arms featuring an ox because the knight had been castrated in battle.

    In the absense of specific information about a set of arms, we can only
    guess what symbolism was intended by the designer. Of course, we can make informed guesses.

    Some charges are easy: Crosses were probably always intended to express Christian devotion. Lions and eagles have always represented nobility.
    And there is a small number of charges which always have a particular
    meaning: the red hand of Ulster, the royal tressure of Scotland, etc.
    But when we look at more common charges or at tinctures, there is no
    general answer.

    To go further, you need to research the person who bore the arms and the circumstances under which he received or adopted them. This research may reveal other clues to the motives of the designer.

    For example, we might find that the arms are a variant of arms held by a related family. This practice is called "cadency" and is quite common in medieval armory. A similar practice might be called "feudal cadency"; some minor noblemen adopted arms incorporating a charge from the arms of their overlords.

    Merchants and craftsmen often included the tools of the trades in their
    arms, or an attribute of their patron saint.

    Very frequently, the family name of the original owner of the arms sounds similar to the name of one of the charges used in his arms. This practice
    is called "canting" and was extremely common in medieval armorial design. Sometimes the cant is easy to recognize: A lion for "Lyons" or a fox for "Fuchs". Sometimes it takes specialized knowledge: The fish in the arms of
    "de Lucy" is called a "lucy", an archaic name for a species of pike. The
    cant can involve more than one language: An English family "Harrison" bears
    a hedgehog, called "herisson" in Middle French.

    There are other patterns of armorial design found in one part of Europe or another, at one time or another. The more we know of the history of the
    people who originally bore the arms, we more likely we can make an
    intelligent guess as to the intent of the designer of those arms. But when
    it comes right down to it, we can very seldom know for certain.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    This MFAQ written by :
    Josh Mittleman and Francois Velde. ---------------------------------------------------------------------

    --
    François R. Velde
    velde@nospam.org (replace by "heraldica")
    Heraldica Web Site: http://www.heraldica.org/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Francois R. Velde@21:1/5 to All on Sat Sep 1 06:00:07 2018
    Summary: "What are my arms?"
    Archive-name: heraldry/mfaq
    Posting-Frequency: weekly
    Last-modified: 1997/3/25
    URL: http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/mfaq


    The Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    A common variant is:

    "Some guy in a mall told me he could look up my name in a database
    and tell me my family arms? Can I trust him?"

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers these questions. We've noticed that these questions
    are usually asked by people from the US, so the answers are intended to fit
    the US context.

    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    The short answer is this: Your family probably has no coat of arms. Most families don't. Discovering whether _your_ family has arms is a
    time-consuming problem in genealogy. Anyone who claims to be able to find
    your arms simply by looking in a book or a database is either ignorant or lying.


    To explain in more detail, we have to clear up some misconceptions:

    * There is no such thing as "the arms of Smith". Arms are associated with families or lineages. A coat was inherited by a child from his parent,
    either intact or somewhat modified. But any individual's claim to use a specific historical coat of arms rests on a family link with someone acknowledged to have used those arms.

    * Many unrelated families share the same surname. (There are 2.5 million Americans named "Smith".) Sharing a surname does not mean that you share
    the right to the same arms.

    * Conversely, many families with different names have the same coat of
    arms. A coat of arms does not uniquely identify a family.

    * A fairly small fraction of society ever used coats of arms at any time.
    Only a few Smith families actually bore arms. Arms were used throughout
    the social scale, but much moreso at the top than at the bottom. Most Americans are descended from lower-class immigrants. Statistically, then,
    the chance that an immigrant ancestor of yours bore arms is not very high.

    * No one on Earth has a complete record of all coats of arms used or
    granted throughout history.

    Therefore, if your name is Smith, and a book or a guy in a mall shows you a coat of arms with the name Smith under it, that proves nothing at all. You
    are just as likely to be related to the founder of the Virginia colony, or
    the Scottish economist, or the nephew of Senator Kennedy, or none of the
    above. The guy in the mall with the database is fudging these issues and trying to sell you a pig in a poke. His database is certainly incomplete
    and probably very inaccurate, and he doesn't care about pedigrees. He is
    just out to exploit the similarity between your name and some name in his database.

    In order to determine what your arms are, we would need much more than your name: We would need your pedigree traced back to someone who used a coat of arms. The standard of proof will vary with the needs: If you are of
    Scottish descent and wish to matriculate arms with the Scottish heraldic authority, you'd better have a well-documented pedigree, probably
    stretching over several centuries. If you only want to use arms for
    yourself in a country such as the USA where heraldry is unregulated, then
    it is just a matter of satisfying yourself. Strictly genealogical matters
    are best discussed in the soc.genealogy.* hierarchy.

    On the other hand, if you do live in a country where heraldry is
    unregulated, you are free to choose arms for yourself. You can choose any
    arms you want, whether or not your family relationships entitle you to
    those arms. You may decide to choose unique arms, created especially for
    you, or borrow arms from some existing family. Some people consider it bad taste to use existing arms if you cannot prove your descent from the family that bore them. In any case, it behooves you to acquaint yourself with heraldry, its rules and its aesthetics, so that you can design, or have designed for you, a coat that pleases you and others as well.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.


    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers this question.

    The short answer is that there are no systematic meanings assigned to the charges and tinctures in arms. There is no way to look at a set of arms
    and decypher the original designer's intended symbolism.

    At various times in the history of heraldry -- mostly between the 16th and early 19th centuries, and mostly in England -- various authors tried to
    create systems of meaning for every charge and tincture in arms. Some of
    them went so far as to claim that their system had _always_ been in use,
    and therefore that the symbolism of ancient arms could be deduced from
    their charts. It was all bunk. Some heralds probably did design arms according to one or another of these systems -- which aren't consistent, by
    the way -- but we have no way of know, in general, when this was done.

    In some instances, the heraldic designer left us notes explaining why he
    chose certain charges for someone's arms. Designer's notes are almost
    standard in modern cases, but as you look further back in history, they
    quickly become an exceptional rarity. We do have a few amusing early
    examples. One herald from the Tudor period, for example, left us the information that he provided a particular knight with arms featuring an ox because the knight had been castrated in battle.

    In the absense of specific information about a set of arms, we can only
    guess what symbolism was intended by the designer. Of course, we can make informed guesses.

    Some charges are easy: Crosses were probably always intended to express Christian devotion. Lions and eagles have always represented nobility.
    And there is a small number of charges which always have a particular
    meaning: the red hand of Ulster, the royal tressure of Scotland, etc.
    But when we look at more common charges or at tinctures, there is no
    general answer.

    To go further, you need to research the person who bore the arms and the circumstances under which he received or adopted them. This research may reveal other clues to the motives of the designer.

    For example, we might find that the arms are a variant of arms held by a related family. This practice is called "cadency" and is quite common in medieval armory. A similar practice might be called "feudal cadency"; some minor noblemen adopted arms incorporating a charge from the arms of their overlords.

    Merchants and craftsmen often included the tools of the trades in their
    arms, or an attribute of their patron saint.

    Very frequently, the family name of the original owner of the arms sounds similar to the name of one of the charges used in his arms. This practice
    is called "canting" and was extremely common in medieval armorial design. Sometimes the cant is easy to recognize: A lion for "Lyons" or a fox for "Fuchs". Sometimes it takes specialized knowledge: The fish in the arms of
    "de Lucy" is called a "lucy", an archaic name for a species of pike. The
    cant can involve more than one language: An English family "Harrison" bears
    a hedgehog, called "herisson" in Middle French.

    There are other patterns of armorial design found in one part of Europe or another, at one time or another. The more we know of the history of the
    people who originally bore the arms, we more likely we can make an
    intelligent guess as to the intent of the designer of those arms. But when
    it comes right down to it, we can very seldom know for certain.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    This MFAQ written by :
    Josh Mittleman and Francois Velde. ---------------------------------------------------------------------

    --
    François R. Velde
    velde@nospam.org (replace by "heraldica")
    Heraldica Web Site: http://www.heraldica.org/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Francois R. Velde@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 1 06:00:05 2018
    Summary: "What are my arms?"
    Archive-name: heraldry/mfaq
    Posting-Frequency: weekly
    Last-modified: 1997/3/25
    URL: http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/mfaq


    The Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    A common variant is:

    "Some guy in a mall told me he could look up my name in a database
    and tell me my family arms? Can I trust him?"

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers these questions. We've noticed that these questions
    are usually asked by people from the US, so the answers are intended to fit
    the US context.

    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    The short answer is this: Your family probably has no coat of arms. Most families don't. Discovering whether _your_ family has arms is a
    time-consuming problem in genealogy. Anyone who claims to be able to find
    your arms simply by looking in a book or a database is either ignorant or lying.


    To explain in more detail, we have to clear up some misconceptions:

    * There is no such thing as "the arms of Smith". Arms are associated with families or lineages. A coat was inherited by a child from his parent,
    either intact or somewhat modified. But any individual's claim to use a specific historical coat of arms rests on a family link with someone acknowledged to have used those arms.

    * Many unrelated families share the same surname. (There are 2.5 million Americans named "Smith".) Sharing a surname does not mean that you share
    the right to the same arms.

    * Conversely, many families with different names have the same coat of
    arms. A coat of arms does not uniquely identify a family.

    * A fairly small fraction of society ever used coats of arms at any time.
    Only a few Smith families actually bore arms. Arms were used throughout
    the social scale, but much moreso at the top than at the bottom. Most Americans are descended from lower-class immigrants. Statistically, then,
    the chance that an immigrant ancestor of yours bore arms is not very high.

    * No one on Earth has a complete record of all coats of arms used or
    granted throughout history.

    Therefore, if your name is Smith, and a book or a guy in a mall shows you a coat of arms with the name Smith under it, that proves nothing at all. You
    are just as likely to be related to the founder of the Virginia colony, or
    the Scottish economist, or the nephew of Senator Kennedy, or none of the
    above. The guy in the mall with the database is fudging these issues and trying to sell you a pig in a poke. His database is certainly incomplete
    and probably very inaccurate, and he doesn't care about pedigrees. He is
    just out to exploit the similarity between your name and some name in his database.

    In order to determine what your arms are, we would need much more than your name: We would need your pedigree traced back to someone who used a coat of arms. The standard of proof will vary with the needs: If you are of
    Scottish descent and wish to matriculate arms with the Scottish heraldic authority, you'd better have a well-documented pedigree, probably
    stretching over several centuries. If you only want to use arms for
    yourself in a country such as the USA where heraldry is unregulated, then
    it is just a matter of satisfying yourself. Strictly genealogical matters
    are best discussed in the soc.genealogy.* hierarchy.

    On the other hand, if you do live in a country where heraldry is
    unregulated, you are free to choose arms for yourself. You can choose any
    arms you want, whether or not your family relationships entitle you to
    those arms. You may decide to choose unique arms, created especially for
    you, or borrow arms from some existing family. Some people consider it bad taste to use existing arms if you cannot prove your descent from the family that bore them. In any case, it behooves you to acquaint yourself with heraldry, its rules and its aesthetics, so that you can design, or have designed for you, a coat that pleases you and others as well.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.


    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers this question.

    The short answer is that there are no systematic meanings assigned to the charges and tinctures in arms. There is no way to look at a set of arms
    and decypher the original designer's intended symbolism.

    At various times in the history of heraldry -- mostly between the 16th and early 19th centuries, and mostly in England -- various authors tried to
    create systems of meaning for every charge and tincture in arms. Some of
    them went so far as to claim that their system had _always_ been in use,
    and therefore that the symbolism of ancient arms could be deduced from
    their charts. It was all bunk. Some heralds probably did design arms according to one or another of these systems -- which aren't consistent, by
    the way -- but we have no way of know, in general, when this was done.

    In some instances, the heraldic designer left us notes explaining why he
    chose certain charges for someone's arms. Designer's notes are almost
    standard in modern cases, but as you look further back in history, they
    quickly become an exceptional rarity. We do have a few amusing early
    examples. One herald from the Tudor period, for example, left us the information that he provided a particular knight with arms featuring an ox because the knight had been castrated in battle.

    In the absense of specific information about a set of arms, we can only
    guess what symbolism was intended by the designer. Of course, we can make informed guesses.

    Some charges are easy: Crosses were probably always intended to express Christian devotion. Lions and eagles have always represented nobility.
    And there is a small number of charges which always have a particular
    meaning: the red hand of Ulster, the royal tressure of Scotland, etc.
    But when we look at more common charges or at tinctures, there is no
    general answer.

    To go further, you need to research the person who bore the arms and the circumstances under which he received or adopted them. This research may reveal other clues to the motives of the designer.

    For example, we might find that the arms are a variant of arms held by a related family. This practice is called "cadency" and is quite common in medieval armory. A similar practice might be called "feudal cadency"; some minor noblemen adopted arms incorporating a charge from the arms of their overlords.

    Merchants and craftsmen often included the tools of the trades in their
    arms, or an attribute of their patron saint.

    Very frequently, the family name of the original owner of the arms sounds similar to the name of one of the charges used in his arms. This practice
    is called "canting" and was extremely common in medieval armorial design. Sometimes the cant is easy to recognize: A lion for "Lyons" or a fox for "Fuchs". Sometimes it takes specialized knowledge: The fish in the arms of
    "de Lucy" is called a "lucy", an archaic name for a species of pike. The
    cant can involve more than one language: An English family "Harrison" bears
    a hedgehog, called "herisson" in Middle French.

    There are other patterns of armorial design found in one part of Europe or another, at one time or another. The more we know of the history of the
    people who originally bore the arms, we more likely we can make an
    intelligent guess as to the intent of the designer of those arms. But when
    it comes right down to it, we can very seldom know for certain.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    This MFAQ written by :
    Josh Mittleman and Francois Velde. ---------------------------------------------------------------------

    --
    François R. Velde
    velde@nospam.org (replace by "heraldica")
    Heraldica Web Site: http://www.heraldica.org/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Francois R. Velde@21:1/5 to All on Thu Nov 1 06:00:04 2018
    Summary: "What are my arms?"
    Archive-name: heraldry/mfaq
    Posting-Frequency: weekly
    Last-modified: 1997/3/25
    URL: http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/mfaq


    The Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    A common variant is:

    "Some guy in a mall told me he could look up my name in a database
    and tell me my family arms? Can I trust him?"

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers these questions. We've noticed that these questions
    are usually asked by people from the US, so the answers are intended to fit
    the US context.

    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    The short answer is this: Your family probably has no coat of arms. Most families don't. Discovering whether _your_ family has arms is a
    time-consuming problem in genealogy. Anyone who claims to be able to find
    your arms simply by looking in a book or a database is either ignorant or lying.


    To explain in more detail, we have to clear up some misconceptions:

    * There is no such thing as "the arms of Smith". Arms are associated with families or lineages. A coat was inherited by a child from his parent,
    either intact or somewhat modified. But any individual's claim to use a specific historical coat of arms rests on a family link with someone acknowledged to have used those arms.

    * Many unrelated families share the same surname. (There are 2.5 million Americans named "Smith".) Sharing a surname does not mean that you share
    the right to the same arms.

    * Conversely, many families with different names have the same coat of
    arms. A coat of arms does not uniquely identify a family.

    * A fairly small fraction of society ever used coats of arms at any time.
    Only a few Smith families actually bore arms. Arms were used throughout
    the social scale, but much moreso at the top than at the bottom. Most Americans are descended from lower-class immigrants. Statistically, then,
    the chance that an immigrant ancestor of yours bore arms is not very high.

    * No one on Earth has a complete record of all coats of arms used or
    granted throughout history.

    Therefore, if your name is Smith, and a book or a guy in a mall shows you a coat of arms with the name Smith under it, that proves nothing at all. You
    are just as likely to be related to the founder of the Virginia colony, or
    the Scottish economist, or the nephew of Senator Kennedy, or none of the
    above. The guy in the mall with the database is fudging these issues and trying to sell you a pig in a poke. His database is certainly incomplete
    and probably very inaccurate, and he doesn't care about pedigrees. He is
    just out to exploit the similarity between your name and some name in his database.

    In order to determine what your arms are, we would need much more than your name: We would need your pedigree traced back to someone who used a coat of arms. The standard of proof will vary with the needs: If you are of
    Scottish descent and wish to matriculate arms with the Scottish heraldic authority, you'd better have a well-documented pedigree, probably
    stretching over several centuries. If you only want to use arms for
    yourself in a country such as the USA where heraldry is unregulated, then
    it is just a matter of satisfying yourself. Strictly genealogical matters
    are best discussed in the soc.genealogy.* hierarchy.

    On the other hand, if you do live in a country where heraldry is
    unregulated, you are free to choose arms for yourself. You can choose any
    arms you want, whether or not your family relationships entitle you to
    those arms. You may decide to choose unique arms, created especially for
    you, or borrow arms from some existing family. Some people consider it bad taste to use existing arms if you cannot prove your descent from the family that bore them. In any case, it behooves you to acquaint yourself with heraldry, its rules and its aesthetics, so that you can design, or have designed for you, a coat that pleases you and others as well.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.


    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers this question.

    The short answer is that there are no systematic meanings assigned to the charges and tinctures in arms. There is no way to look at a set of arms
    and decypher the original designer's intended symbolism.

    At various times in the history of heraldry -- mostly between the 16th and early 19th centuries, and mostly in England -- various authors tried to
    create systems of meaning for every charge and tincture in arms. Some of
    them went so far as to claim that their system had _always_ been in use,
    and therefore that the symbolism of ancient arms could be deduced from
    their charts. It was all bunk. Some heralds probably did design arms according to one or another of these systems -- which aren't consistent, by
    the way -- but we have no way of know, in general, when this was done.

    In some instances, the heraldic designer left us notes explaining why he
    chose certain charges for someone's arms. Designer's notes are almost
    standard in modern cases, but as you look further back in history, they
    quickly become an exceptional rarity. We do have a few amusing early
    examples. One herald from the Tudor period, for example, left us the information that he provided a particular knight with arms featuring an ox because the knight had been castrated in battle.

    In the absense of specific information about a set of arms, we can only
    guess what symbolism was intended by the designer. Of course, we can make informed guesses.

    Some charges are easy: Crosses were probably always intended to express Christian devotion. Lions and eagles have always represented nobility.
    And there is a small number of charges which always have a particular
    meaning: the red hand of Ulster, the royal tressure of Scotland, etc.
    But when we look at more common charges or at tinctures, there is no
    general answer.

    To go further, you need to research the person who bore the arms and the circumstances under which he received or adopted them. This research may reveal other clues to the motives of the designer.

    For example, we might find that the arms are a variant of arms held by a related family. This practice is called "cadency" and is quite common in medieval armory. A similar practice might be called "feudal cadency"; some minor noblemen adopted arms incorporating a charge from the arms of their overlords.

    Merchants and craftsmen often included the tools of the trades in their
    arms, or an attribute of their patron saint.

    Very frequently, the family name of the original owner of the arms sounds similar to the name of one of the charges used in his arms. This practice
    is called "canting" and was extremely common in medieval armorial design. Sometimes the cant is easy to recognize: A lion for "Lyons" or a fox for "Fuchs". Sometimes it takes specialized knowledge: The fish in the arms of
    "de Lucy" is called a "lucy", an archaic name for a species of pike. The
    cant can involve more than one language: An English family "Harrison" bears
    a hedgehog, called "herisson" in Middle French.

    There are other patterns of armorial design found in one part of Europe or another, at one time or another. The more we know of the history of the
    people who originally bore the arms, we more likely we can make an
    intelligent guess as to the intent of the designer of those arms. But when
    it comes right down to it, we can very seldom know for certain.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    This MFAQ written by :
    Josh Mittleman and Francois Velde. ---------------------------------------------------------------------

    --
    François R. Velde
    velde@nospam.org (replace by "heraldica")
    Heraldica Web Site: http://www.heraldica.org/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Francois R. Velde@21:1/5 to All on Sat Dec 1 07:00:05 2018
    Summary: "What are my arms?"
    Archive-name: heraldry/mfaq
    Posting-Frequency: weekly
    Last-modified: 1997/3/25
    URL: http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/mfaq


    The Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    A common variant is:

    "Some guy in a mall told me he could look up my name in a database
    and tell me my family arms? Can I trust him?"

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers these questions. We've noticed that these questions
    are usually asked by people from the US, so the answers are intended to fit
    the US context.

    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    The short answer is this: Your family probably has no coat of arms. Most families don't. Discovering whether _your_ family has arms is a
    time-consuming problem in genealogy. Anyone who claims to be able to find
    your arms simply by looking in a book or a database is either ignorant or lying.


    To explain in more detail, we have to clear up some misconceptions:

    * There is no such thing as "the arms of Smith". Arms are associated with families or lineages. A coat was inherited by a child from his parent,
    either intact or somewhat modified. But any individual's claim to use a specific historical coat of arms rests on a family link with someone acknowledged to have used those arms.

    * Many unrelated families share the same surname. (There are 2.5 million Americans named "Smith".) Sharing a surname does not mean that you share
    the right to the same arms.

    * Conversely, many families with different names have the same coat of
    arms. A coat of arms does not uniquely identify a family.

    * A fairly small fraction of society ever used coats of arms at any time.
    Only a few Smith families actually bore arms. Arms were used throughout
    the social scale, but much moreso at the top than at the bottom. Most Americans are descended from lower-class immigrants. Statistically, then,
    the chance that an immigrant ancestor of yours bore arms is not very high.

    * No one on Earth has a complete record of all coats of arms used or
    granted throughout history.

    Therefore, if your name is Smith, and a book or a guy in a mall shows you a coat of arms with the name Smith under it, that proves nothing at all. You
    are just as likely to be related to the founder of the Virginia colony, or
    the Scottish economist, or the nephew of Senator Kennedy, or none of the
    above. The guy in the mall with the database is fudging these issues and trying to sell you a pig in a poke. His database is certainly incomplete
    and probably very inaccurate, and he doesn't care about pedigrees. He is
    just out to exploit the similarity between your name and some name in his database.

    In order to determine what your arms are, we would need much more than your name: We would need your pedigree traced back to someone who used a coat of arms. The standard of proof will vary with the needs: If you are of
    Scottish descent and wish to matriculate arms with the Scottish heraldic authority, you'd better have a well-documented pedigree, probably
    stretching over several centuries. If you only want to use arms for
    yourself in a country such as the USA where heraldry is unregulated, then
    it is just a matter of satisfying yourself. Strictly genealogical matters
    are best discussed in the soc.genealogy.* hierarchy.

    On the other hand, if you do live in a country where heraldry is
    unregulated, you are free to choose arms for yourself. You can choose any
    arms you want, whether or not your family relationships entitle you to
    those arms. You may decide to choose unique arms, created especially for
    you, or borrow arms from some existing family. Some people consider it bad taste to use existing arms if you cannot prove your descent from the family that bore them. In any case, it behooves you to acquaint yourself with heraldry, its rules and its aesthetics, so that you can design, or have designed for you, a coat that pleases you and others as well.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.


    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers this question.

    The short answer is that there are no systematic meanings assigned to the charges and tinctures in arms. There is no way to look at a set of arms
    and decypher the original designer's intended symbolism.

    At various times in the history of heraldry -- mostly between the 16th and early 19th centuries, and mostly in England -- various authors tried to
    create systems of meaning for every charge and tincture in arms. Some of
    them went so far as to claim that their system had _always_ been in use,
    and therefore that the symbolism of ancient arms could be deduced from
    their charts. It was all bunk. Some heralds probably did design arms according to one or another of these systems -- which aren't consistent, by
    the way -- but we have no way of know, in general, when this was done.

    In some instances, the heraldic designer left us notes explaining why he
    chose certain charges for someone's arms. Designer's notes are almost
    standard in modern cases, but as you look further back in history, they
    quickly become an exceptional rarity. We do have a few amusing early
    examples. One herald from the Tudor period, for example, left us the information that he provided a particular knight with arms featuring an ox because the knight had been castrated in battle.

    In the absense of specific information about a set of arms, we can only
    guess what symbolism was intended by the designer. Of course, we can make informed guesses.

    Some charges are easy: Crosses were probably always intended to express Christian devotion. Lions and eagles have always represented nobility.
    And there is a small number of charges which always have a particular
    meaning: the red hand of Ulster, the royal tressure of Scotland, etc.
    But when we look at more common charges or at tinctures, there is no
    general answer.

    To go further, you need to research the person who bore the arms and the circumstances under which he received or adopted them. This research may reveal other clues to the motives of the designer.

    For example, we might find that the arms are a variant of arms held by a related family. This practice is called "cadency" and is quite common in medieval armory. A similar practice might be called "feudal cadency"; some minor noblemen adopted arms incorporating a charge from the arms of their overlords.

    Merchants and craftsmen often included the tools of the trades in their
    arms, or an attribute of their patron saint.

    Very frequently, the family name of the original owner of the arms sounds similar to the name of one of the charges used in his arms. This practice
    is called "canting" and was extremely common in medieval armorial design. Sometimes the cant is easy to recognize: A lion for "Lyons" or a fox for "Fuchs". Sometimes it takes specialized knowledge: The fish in the arms of
    "de Lucy" is called a "lucy", an archaic name for a species of pike. The
    cant can involve more than one language: An English family "Harrison" bears
    a hedgehog, called "herisson" in Middle French.

    There are other patterns of armorial design found in one part of Europe or another, at one time or another. The more we know of the history of the
    people who originally bore the arms, we more likely we can make an
    intelligent guess as to the intent of the designer of those arms. But when
    it comes right down to it, we can very seldom know for certain.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    This MFAQ written by :
    Josh Mittleman and Francois Velde. ---------------------------------------------------------------------

    --
    François R. Velde
    velde@nospam.org (replace by "heraldica")
    Heraldica Web Site: http://www.heraldica.org/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Francois R. Velde@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jan 1 07:00:04 2019
    Summary: "What are my arms?"
    Archive-name: heraldry/mfaq
    Posting-Frequency: weekly
    Last-modified: 1997/3/25
    URL: http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/mfaq


    The Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    A common variant is:

    "Some guy in a mall told me he could look up my name in a database
    and tell me my family arms? Can I trust him?"

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers these questions. We've noticed that these questions
    are usually asked by people from the US, so the answers are intended to fit
    the US context.

    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    The short answer is this: Your family probably has no coat of arms. Most families don't. Discovering whether _your_ family has arms is a
    time-consuming problem in genealogy. Anyone who claims to be able to find
    your arms simply by looking in a book or a database is either ignorant or lying.


    To explain in more detail, we have to clear up some misconceptions:

    * There is no such thing as "the arms of Smith". Arms are associated with families or lineages. A coat was inherited by a child from his parent,
    either intact or somewhat modified. But any individual's claim to use a specific historical coat of arms rests on a family link with someone acknowledged to have used those arms.

    * Many unrelated families share the same surname. (There are 2.5 million Americans named "Smith".) Sharing a surname does not mean that you share
    the right to the same arms.

    * Conversely, many families with different names have the same coat of
    arms. A coat of arms does not uniquely identify a family.

    * A fairly small fraction of society ever used coats of arms at any time.
    Only a few Smith families actually bore arms. Arms were used throughout
    the social scale, but much moreso at the top than at the bottom. Most Americans are descended from lower-class immigrants. Statistically, then,
    the chance that an immigrant ancestor of yours bore arms is not very high.

    * No one on Earth has a complete record of all coats of arms used or
    granted throughout history.

    Therefore, if your name is Smith, and a book or a guy in a mall shows you a coat of arms with the name Smith under it, that proves nothing at all. You
    are just as likely to be related to the founder of the Virginia colony, or
    the Scottish economist, or the nephew of Senator Kennedy, or none of the
    above. The guy in the mall with the database is fudging these issues and trying to sell you a pig in a poke. His database is certainly incomplete
    and probably very inaccurate, and he doesn't care about pedigrees. He is
    just out to exploit the similarity between your name and some name in his database.

    In order to determine what your arms are, we would need much more than your name: We would need your pedigree traced back to someone who used a coat of arms. The standard of proof will vary with the needs: If you are of
    Scottish descent and wish to matriculate arms with the Scottish heraldic authority, you'd better have a well-documented pedigree, probably
    stretching over several centuries. If you only want to use arms for
    yourself in a country such as the USA where heraldry is unregulated, then
    it is just a matter of satisfying yourself. Strictly genealogical matters
    are best discussed in the soc.genealogy.* hierarchy.

    On the other hand, if you do live in a country where heraldry is
    unregulated, you are free to choose arms for yourself. You can choose any
    arms you want, whether or not your family relationships entitle you to
    those arms. You may decide to choose unique arms, created especially for
    you, or borrow arms from some existing family. Some people consider it bad taste to use existing arms if you cannot prove your descent from the family that bore them. In any case, it behooves you to acquaint yourself with heraldry, its rules and its aesthetics, so that you can design, or have designed for you, a coat that pleases you and others as well.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.


    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers this question.

    The short answer is that there are no systematic meanings assigned to the charges and tinctures in arms. There is no way to look at a set of arms
    and decypher the original designer's intended symbolism.

    At various times in the history of heraldry -- mostly between the 16th and early 19th centuries, and mostly in England -- various authors tried to
    create systems of meaning for every charge and tincture in arms. Some of
    them went so far as to claim that their system had _always_ been in use,
    and therefore that the symbolism of ancient arms could be deduced from
    their charts. It was all bunk. Some heralds probably did design arms according to one or another of these systems -- which aren't consistent, by
    the way -- but we have no way of know, in general, when this was done.

    In some instances, the heraldic designer left us notes explaining why he
    chose certain charges for someone's arms. Designer's notes are almost
    standard in modern cases, but as you look further back in history, they
    quickly become an exceptional rarity. We do have a few amusing early
    examples. One herald from the Tudor period, for example, left us the information that he provided a particular knight with arms featuring an ox because the knight had been castrated in battle.

    In the absense of specific information about a set of arms, we can only
    guess what symbolism was intended by the designer. Of course, we can make informed guesses.

    Some charges are easy: Crosses were probably always intended to express Christian devotion. Lions and eagles have always represented nobility.
    And there is a small number of charges which always have a particular
    meaning: the red hand of Ulster, the royal tressure of Scotland, etc.
    But when we look at more common charges or at tinctures, there is no
    general answer.

    To go further, you need to research the person who bore the arms and the circumstances under which he received or adopted them. This research may reveal other clues to the motives of the designer.

    For example, we might find that the arms are a variant of arms held by a related family. This practice is called "cadency" and is quite common in medieval armory. A similar practice might be called "feudal cadency"; some minor noblemen adopted arms incorporating a charge from the arms of their overlords.

    Merchants and craftsmen often included the tools of the trades in their
    arms, or an attribute of their patron saint.

    Very frequently, the family name of the original owner of the arms sounds similar to the name of one of the charges used in his arms. This practice
    is called "canting" and was extremely common in medieval armorial design. Sometimes the cant is easy to recognize: A lion for "Lyons" or a fox for "Fuchs". Sometimes it takes specialized knowledge: The fish in the arms of
    "de Lucy" is called a "lucy", an archaic name for a species of pike. The
    cant can involve more than one language: An English family "Harrison" bears
    a hedgehog, called "herisson" in Middle French.

    There are other patterns of armorial design found in one part of Europe or another, at one time or another. The more we know of the history of the
    people who originally bore the arms, we more likely we can make an
    intelligent guess as to the intent of the designer of those arms. But when
    it comes right down to it, we can very seldom know for certain.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    This MFAQ written by :
    Josh Mittleman and Francois Velde. ---------------------------------------------------------------------

    --
    François R. Velde
    velde@nospam.org (replace by "heraldica")
    Heraldica Web Site: http://www.heraldica.org/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Francois R. Velde@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 1 07:00:05 2019
    Summary: "What are my arms?"
    Archive-name: heraldry/mfaq
    Posting-Frequency: weekly
    Last-modified: 1997/3/25
    URL: http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/mfaq


    The Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    A common variant is:

    "Some guy in a mall told me he could look up my name in a database
    and tell me my family arms? Can I trust him?"

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers these questions. We've noticed that these questions
    are usually asked by people from the US, so the answers are intended to fit
    the US context.

    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    The short answer is this: Your family probably has no coat of arms. Most families don't. Discovering whether _your_ family has arms is a
    time-consuming problem in genealogy. Anyone who claims to be able to find
    your arms simply by looking in a book or a database is either ignorant or lying.


    To explain in more detail, we have to clear up some misconceptions:

    * There is no such thing as "the arms of Smith". Arms are associated with families or lineages. A coat was inherited by a child from his parent,
    either intact or somewhat modified. But any individual's claim to use a specific historical coat of arms rests on a family link with someone acknowledged to have used those arms.

    * Many unrelated families share the same surname. (There are 2.5 million Americans named "Smith".) Sharing a surname does not mean that you share
    the right to the same arms.

    * Conversely, many families with different names have the same coat of
    arms. A coat of arms does not uniquely identify a family.

    * A fairly small fraction of society ever used coats of arms at any time.
    Only a few Smith families actually bore arms. Arms were used throughout
    the social scale, but much moreso at the top than at the bottom. Most Americans are descended from lower-class immigrants. Statistically, then,
    the chance that an immigrant ancestor of yours bore arms is not very high.

    * No one on Earth has a complete record of all coats of arms used or
    granted throughout history.

    Therefore, if your name is Smith, and a book or a guy in a mall shows you a coat of arms with the name Smith under it, that proves nothing at all. You
    are just as likely to be related to the founder of the Virginia colony, or
    the Scottish economist, or the nephew of Senator Kennedy, or none of the
    above. The guy in the mall with the database is fudging these issues and trying to sell you a pig in a poke. His database is certainly incomplete
    and probably very inaccurate, and he doesn't care about pedigrees. He is
    just out to exploit the similarity between your name and some name in his database.

    In order to determine what your arms are, we would need much more than your name: We would need your pedigree traced back to someone who used a coat of arms. The standard of proof will vary with the needs: If you are of
    Scottish descent and wish to matriculate arms with the Scottish heraldic authority, you'd better have a well-documented pedigree, probably
    stretching over several centuries. If you only want to use arms for
    yourself in a country such as the USA where heraldry is unregulated, then
    it is just a matter of satisfying yourself. Strictly genealogical matters
    are best discussed in the soc.genealogy.* hierarchy.

    On the other hand, if you do live in a country where heraldry is
    unregulated, you are free to choose arms for yourself. You can choose any
    arms you want, whether or not your family relationships entitle you to
    those arms. You may decide to choose unique arms, created especially for
    you, or borrow arms from some existing family. Some people consider it bad taste to use existing arms if you cannot prove your descent from the family that bore them. In any case, it behooves you to acquaint yourself with heraldry, its rules and its aesthetics, so that you can design, or have designed for you, a coat that pleases you and others as well.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.


    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers this question.

    The short answer is that there are no systematic meanings assigned to the charges and tinctures in arms. There is no way to look at a set of arms
    and decypher the original designer's intended symbolism.

    At various times in the history of heraldry -- mostly between the 16th and early 19th centuries, and mostly in England -- various authors tried to
    create systems of meaning for every charge and tincture in arms. Some of
    them went so far as to claim that their system had _always_ been in use,
    and therefore that the symbolism of ancient arms could be deduced from
    their charts. It was all bunk. Some heralds probably did design arms according to one or another of these systems -- which aren't consistent, by
    the way -- but we have no way of know, in general, when this was done.

    In some instances, the heraldic designer left us notes explaining why he
    chose certain charges for someone's arms. Designer's notes are almost
    standard in modern cases, but as you look further back in history, they
    quickly become an exceptional rarity. We do have a few amusing early
    examples. One herald from the Tudor period, for example, left us the information that he provided a particular knight with arms featuring an ox because the knight had been castrated in battle.

    In the absense of specific information about a set of arms, we can only
    guess what symbolism was intended by the designer. Of course, we can make informed guesses.

    Some charges are easy: Crosses were probably always intended to express Christian devotion. Lions and eagles have always represented nobility.
    And there is a small number of charges which always have a particular
    meaning: the red hand of Ulster, the royal tressure of Scotland, etc.
    But when we look at more common charges or at tinctures, there is no
    general answer.

    To go further, you need to research the person who bore the arms and the circumstances under which he received or adopted them. This research may reveal other clues to the motives of the designer.

    For example, we might find that the arms are a variant of arms held by a related family. This practice is called "cadency" and is quite common in medieval armory. A similar practice might be called "feudal cadency"; some minor noblemen adopted arms incorporating a charge from the arms of their overlords.

    Merchants and craftsmen often included the tools of the trades in their
    arms, or an attribute of their patron saint.

    Very frequently, the family name of the original owner of the arms sounds similar to the name of one of the charges used in his arms. This practice
    is called "canting" and was extremely common in medieval armorial design. Sometimes the cant is easy to recognize: A lion for "Lyons" or a fox for "Fuchs". Sometimes it takes specialized knowledge: The fish in the arms of
    "de Lucy" is called a "lucy", an archaic name for a species of pike. The
    cant can involve more than one language: An English family "Harrison" bears
    a hedgehog, called "herisson" in Middle French.

    There are other patterns of armorial design found in one part of Europe or another, at one time or another. The more we know of the history of the
    people who originally bore the arms, we more likely we can make an
    intelligent guess as to the intent of the designer of those arms. But when
    it comes right down to it, we can very seldom know for certain.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    This MFAQ written by :
    Josh Mittleman and Francois Velde. ---------------------------------------------------------------------

    --
    François R. Velde
    velde@nospam.org (replace by "heraldica")
    Heraldica Web Site: http://www.heraldica.org/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Francois R. Velde@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 1 07:00:05 2019
    Summary: "What are my arms?"
    Archive-name: heraldry/mfaq
    Posting-Frequency: weekly
    Last-modified: 1997/3/25
    URL: http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/mfaq


    The Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    A common variant is:

    "Some guy in a mall told me he could look up my name in a database
    and tell me my family arms? Can I trust him?"

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers these questions. We've noticed that these questions
    are usually asked by people from the US, so the answers are intended to fit
    the US context.

    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    The short answer is this: Your family probably has no coat of arms. Most families don't. Discovering whether _your_ family has arms is a
    time-consuming problem in genealogy. Anyone who claims to be able to find
    your arms simply by looking in a book or a database is either ignorant or lying.


    To explain in more detail, we have to clear up some misconceptions:

    * There is no such thing as "the arms of Smith". Arms are associated with families or lineages. A coat was inherited by a child from his parent,
    either intact or somewhat modified. But any individual's claim to use a specific historical coat of arms rests on a family link with someone acknowledged to have used those arms.

    * Many unrelated families share the same surname. (There are 2.5 million Americans named "Smith".) Sharing a surname does not mean that you share
    the right to the same arms.

    * Conversely, many families with different names have the same coat of
    arms. A coat of arms does not uniquely identify a family.

    * A fairly small fraction of society ever used coats of arms at any time.
    Only a few Smith families actually bore arms. Arms were used throughout
    the social scale, but much moreso at the top than at the bottom. Most Americans are descended from lower-class immigrants. Statistically, then,
    the chance that an immigrant ancestor of yours bore arms is not very high.

    * No one on Earth has a complete record of all coats of arms used or
    granted throughout history.

    Therefore, if your name is Smith, and a book or a guy in a mall shows you a coat of arms with the name Smith under it, that proves nothing at all. You
    are just as likely to be related to the founder of the Virginia colony, or
    the Scottish economist, or the nephew of Senator Kennedy, or none of the
    above. The guy in the mall with the database is fudging these issues and trying to sell you a pig in a poke. His database is certainly incomplete
    and probably very inaccurate, and he doesn't care about pedigrees. He is
    just out to exploit the similarity between your name and some name in his database.

    In order to determine what your arms are, we would need much more than your name: We would need your pedigree traced back to someone who used a coat of arms. The standard of proof will vary with the needs: If you are of
    Scottish descent and wish to matriculate arms with the Scottish heraldic authority, you'd better have a well-documented pedigree, probably
    stretching over several centuries. If you only want to use arms for
    yourself in a country such as the USA where heraldry is unregulated, then
    it is just a matter of satisfying yourself. Strictly genealogical matters
    are best discussed in the soc.genealogy.* hierarchy.

    On the other hand, if you do live in a country where heraldry is
    unregulated, you are free to choose arms for yourself. You can choose any
    arms you want, whether or not your family relationships entitle you to
    those arms. You may decide to choose unique arms, created especially for
    you, or borrow arms from some existing family. Some people consider it bad taste to use existing arms if you cannot prove your descent from the family that bore them. In any case, it behooves you to acquaint yourself with heraldry, its rules and its aesthetics, so that you can design, or have designed for you, a coat that pleases you and others as well.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.


    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers this question.

    The short answer is that there are no systematic meanings assigned to the charges and tinctures in arms. There is no way to look at a set of arms
    and decypher the original designer's intended symbolism.

    At various times in the history of heraldry -- mostly between the 16th and early 19th centuries, and mostly in England -- various authors tried to
    create systems of meaning for every charge and tincture in arms. Some of
    them went so far as to claim that their system had _always_ been in use,
    and therefore that the symbolism of ancient arms could be deduced from
    their charts. It was all bunk. Some heralds probably did design arms according to one or another of these systems -- which aren't consistent, by
    the way -- but we have no way of know, in general, when this was done.

    In some instances, the heraldic designer left us notes explaining why he
    chose certain charges for someone's arms. Designer's notes are almost
    standard in modern cases, but as you look further back in history, they
    quickly become an exceptional rarity. We do have a few amusing early
    examples. One herald from the Tudor period, for example, left us the information that he provided a particular knight with arms featuring an ox because the knight had been castrated in battle.

    In the absense of specific information about a set of arms, we can only
    guess what symbolism was intended by the designer. Of course, we can make informed guesses.

    Some charges are easy: Crosses were probably always intended to express Christian devotion. Lions and eagles have always represented nobility.
    And there is a small number of charges which always have a particular
    meaning: the red hand of Ulster, the royal tressure of Scotland, etc.
    But when we look at more common charges or at tinctures, there is no
    general answer.

    To go further, you need to research the person who bore the arms and the circumstances under which he received or adopted them. This research may reveal other clues to the motives of the designer.

    For example, we might find that the arms are a variant of arms held by a related family. This practice is called "cadency" and is quite common in medieval armory. A similar practice might be called "feudal cadency"; some minor noblemen adopted arms incorporating a charge from the arms of their overlords.

    Merchants and craftsmen often included the tools of the trades in their
    arms, or an attribute of their patron saint.

    Very frequently, the family name of the original owner of the arms sounds similar to the name of one of the charges used in his arms. This practice
    is called "canting" and was extremely common in medieval armorial design. Sometimes the cant is easy to recognize: A lion for "Lyons" or a fox for "Fuchs". Sometimes it takes specialized knowledge: The fish in the arms of
    "de Lucy" is called a "lucy", an archaic name for a species of pike. The
    cant can involve more than one language: An English family "Harrison" bears
    a hedgehog, called "herisson" in Middle French.

    There are other patterns of armorial design found in one part of Europe or another, at one time or another. The more we know of the history of the
    people who originally bore the arms, we more likely we can make an
    intelligent guess as to the intent of the designer of those arms. But when
    it comes right down to it, we can very seldom know for certain.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    This MFAQ written by :
    Josh Mittleman and Francois Velde. ---------------------------------------------------------------------

    --
    François R. Velde
    velde@nospam.org (replace by "heraldica")
    Heraldica Web Site: http://www.heraldica.org/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Francois R. Velde@21:1/5 to All on Mon Apr 1 06:00:06 2019
    Summary: "What are my arms?"
    Archive-name: heraldry/mfaq
    Posting-Frequency: weekly
    Last-modified: 1997/3/25
    URL: http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/mfaq


    The Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    A common variant is:

    "Some guy in a mall told me he could look up my name in a database
    and tell me my family arms? Can I trust him?"

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers these questions. We've noticed that these questions
    are usually asked by people from the US, so the answers are intended to fit
    the US context.

    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    The short answer is this: Your family probably has no coat of arms. Most families don't. Discovering whether _your_ family has arms is a
    time-consuming problem in genealogy. Anyone who claims to be able to find
    your arms simply by looking in a book or a database is either ignorant or lying.


    To explain in more detail, we have to clear up some misconceptions:

    * There is no such thing as "the arms of Smith". Arms are associated with families or lineages. A coat was inherited by a child from his parent,
    either intact or somewhat modified. But any individual's claim to use a specific historical coat of arms rests on a family link with someone acknowledged to have used those arms.

    * Many unrelated families share the same surname. (There are 2.5 million Americans named "Smith".) Sharing a surname does not mean that you share
    the right to the same arms.

    * Conversely, many families with different names have the same coat of
    arms. A coat of arms does not uniquely identify a family.

    * A fairly small fraction of society ever used coats of arms at any time.
    Only a few Smith families actually bore arms. Arms were used throughout
    the social scale, but much moreso at the top than at the bottom. Most Americans are descended from lower-class immigrants. Statistically, then,
    the chance that an immigrant ancestor of yours bore arms is not very high.

    * No one on Earth has a complete record of all coats of arms used or
    granted throughout history.

    Therefore, if your name is Smith, and a book or a guy in a mall shows you a coat of arms with the name Smith under it, that proves nothing at all. You
    are just as likely to be related to the founder of the Virginia colony, or
    the Scottish economist, or the nephew of Senator Kennedy, or none of the
    above. The guy in the mall with the database is fudging these issues and trying to sell you a pig in a poke. His database is certainly incomplete
    and probably very inaccurate, and he doesn't care about pedigrees. He is
    just out to exploit the similarity between your name and some name in his database.

    In order to determine what your arms are, we would need much more than your name: We would need your pedigree traced back to someone who used a coat of arms. The standard of proof will vary with the needs: If you are of
    Scottish descent and wish to matriculate arms with the Scottish heraldic authority, you'd better have a well-documented pedigree, probably
    stretching over several centuries. If you only want to use arms for
    yourself in a country such as the USA where heraldry is unregulated, then
    it is just a matter of satisfying yourself. Strictly genealogical matters
    are best discussed in the soc.genealogy.* hierarchy.

    On the other hand, if you do live in a country where heraldry is
    unregulated, you are free to choose arms for yourself. You can choose any
    arms you want, whether or not your family relationships entitle you to
    those arms. You may decide to choose unique arms, created especially for
    you, or borrow arms from some existing family. Some people consider it bad taste to use existing arms if you cannot prove your descent from the family that bore them. In any case, it behooves you to acquaint yourself with heraldry, its rules and its aesthetics, so that you can design, or have designed for you, a coat that pleases you and others as well.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.


    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers this question.

    The short answer is that there are no systematic meanings assigned to the charges and tinctures in arms. There is no way to look at a set of arms
    and decypher the original designer's intended symbolism.

    At various times in the history of heraldry -- mostly between the 16th and early 19th centuries, and mostly in England -- various authors tried to
    create systems of meaning for every charge and tincture in arms. Some of
    them went so far as to claim that their system had _always_ been in use,
    and therefore that the symbolism of ancient arms could be deduced from
    their charts. It was all bunk. Some heralds probably did design arms according to one or another of these systems -- which aren't consistent, by
    the way -- but we have no way of know, in general, when this was done.

    In some instances, the heraldic designer left us notes explaining why he
    chose certain charges for someone's arms. Designer's notes are almost
    standard in modern cases, but as you look further back in history, they
    quickly become an exceptional rarity. We do have a few amusing early
    examples. One herald from the Tudor period, for example, left us the information that he provided a particular knight with arms featuring an ox because the knight had been castrated in battle.

    In the absense of specific information about a set of arms, we can only
    guess what symbolism was intended by the designer. Of course, we can make informed guesses.

    Some charges are easy: Crosses were probably always intended to express Christian devotion. Lions and eagles have always represented nobility.
    And there is a small number of charges which always have a particular
    meaning: the red hand of Ulster, the royal tressure of Scotland, etc.
    But when we look at more common charges or at tinctures, there is no
    general answer.

    To go further, you need to research the person who bore the arms and the circumstances under which he received or adopted them. This research may reveal other clues to the motives of the designer.

    For example, we might find that the arms are a variant of arms held by a related family. This practice is called "cadency" and is quite common in medieval armory. A similar practice might be called "feudal cadency"; some minor noblemen adopted arms incorporating a charge from the arms of their overlords.

    Merchants and craftsmen often included the tools of the trades in their
    arms, or an attribute of their patron saint.

    Very frequently, the family name of the original owner of the arms sounds similar to the name of one of the charges used in his arms. This practice
    is called "canting" and was extremely common in medieval armorial design. Sometimes the cant is easy to recognize: A lion for "Lyons" or a fox for "Fuchs". Sometimes it takes specialized knowledge: The fish in the arms of
    "de Lucy" is called a "lucy", an archaic name for a species of pike. The
    cant can involve more than one language: An English family "Harrison" bears
    a hedgehog, called "herisson" in Middle French.

    There are other patterns of armorial design found in one part of Europe or another, at one time or another. The more we know of the history of the
    people who originally bore the arms, we more likely we can make an
    intelligent guess as to the intent of the designer of those arms. But when
    it comes right down to it, we can very seldom know for certain.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    This MFAQ written by :
    Josh Mittleman and Francois Velde. ---------------------------------------------------------------------

    --
    François R. Velde
    velde@nospam.org (replace by "heraldica")
    Heraldica Web Site: http://www.heraldica.org/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Francois R. Velde@21:1/5 to All on Wed May 1 06:00:06 2019
    Summary: "What are my arms?"
    Archive-name: heraldry/mfaq
    Posting-Frequency: weekly
    Last-modified: 1997/3/25
    URL: http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/mfaq


    The Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    A common variant is:

    "Some guy in a mall told me he could look up my name in a database
    and tell me my family arms? Can I trust him?"

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers these questions. We've noticed that these questions
    are usually asked by people from the US, so the answers are intended to fit
    the US context.

    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    The short answer is this: Your family probably has no coat of arms. Most families don't. Discovering whether _your_ family has arms is a
    time-consuming problem in genealogy. Anyone who claims to be able to find
    your arms simply by looking in a book or a database is either ignorant or lying.


    To explain in more detail, we have to clear up some misconceptions:

    * There is no such thing as "the arms of Smith". Arms are associated with families or lineages. A coat was inherited by a child from his parent,
    either intact or somewhat modified. But any individual's claim to use a specific historical coat of arms rests on a family link with someone acknowledged to have used those arms.

    * Many unrelated families share the same surname. (There are 2.5 million Americans named "Smith".) Sharing a surname does not mean that you share
    the right to the same arms.

    * Conversely, many families with different names have the same coat of
    arms. A coat of arms does not uniquely identify a family.

    * A fairly small fraction of society ever used coats of arms at any time.
    Only a few Smith families actually bore arms. Arms were used throughout
    the social scale, but much moreso at the top than at the bottom. Most Americans are descended from lower-class immigrants. Statistically, then,
    the chance that an immigrant ancestor of yours bore arms is not very high.

    * No one on Earth has a complete record of all coats of arms used or
    granted throughout history.

    Therefore, if your name is Smith, and a book or a guy in a mall shows you a coat of arms with the name Smith under it, that proves nothing at all. You
    are just as likely to be related to the founder of the Virginia colony, or
    the Scottish economist, or the nephew of Senator Kennedy, or none of the
    above. The guy in the mall with the database is fudging these issues and trying to sell you a pig in a poke. His database is certainly incomplete
    and probably very inaccurate, and he doesn't care about pedigrees. He is
    just out to exploit the similarity between your name and some name in his database.

    In order to determine what your arms are, we would need much more than your name: We would need your pedigree traced back to someone who used a coat of arms. The standard of proof will vary with the needs: If you are of
    Scottish descent and wish to matriculate arms with the Scottish heraldic authority, you'd better have a well-documented pedigree, probably
    stretching over several centuries. If you only want to use arms for
    yourself in a country such as the USA where heraldry is unregulated, then
    it is just a matter of satisfying yourself. Strictly genealogical matters
    are best discussed in the soc.genealogy.* hierarchy.

    On the other hand, if you do live in a country where heraldry is
    unregulated, you are free to choose arms for yourself. You can choose any
    arms you want, whether or not your family relationships entitle you to
    those arms. You may decide to choose unique arms, created especially for
    you, or borrow arms from some existing family. Some people consider it bad taste to use existing arms if you cannot prove your descent from the family that bore them. In any case, it behooves you to acquaint yourself with heraldry, its rules and its aesthetics, so that you can design, or have designed for you, a coat that pleases you and others as well.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.


    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers this question.

    The short answer is that there are no systematic meanings assigned to the charges and tinctures in arms. There is no way to look at a set of arms
    and decypher the original designer's intended symbolism.

    At various times in the history of heraldry -- mostly between the 16th and early 19th centuries, and mostly in England -- various authors tried to
    create systems of meaning for every charge and tincture in arms. Some of
    them went so far as to claim that their system had _always_ been in use,
    and therefore that the symbolism of ancient arms could be deduced from
    their charts. It was all bunk. Some heralds probably did design arms according to one or another of these systems -- which aren't consistent, by
    the way -- but we have no way of know, in general, when this was done.

    In some instances, the heraldic designer left us notes explaining why he
    chose certain charges for someone's arms. Designer's notes are almost
    standard in modern cases, but as you look further back in history, they
    quickly become an exceptional rarity. We do have a few amusing early
    examples. One herald from the Tudor period, for example, left us the information that he provided a particular knight with arms featuring an ox because the knight had been castrated in battle.

    In the absense of specific information about a set of arms, we can only
    guess what symbolism was intended by the designer. Of course, we can make informed guesses.

    Some charges are easy: Crosses were probably always intended to express Christian devotion. Lions and eagles have always represented nobility.
    And there is a small number of charges which always have a particular
    meaning: the red hand of Ulster, the royal tressure of Scotland, etc.
    But when we look at more common charges or at tinctures, there is no
    general answer.

    To go further, you need to research the person who bore the arms and the circumstances under which he received or adopted them. This research may reveal other clues to the motives of the designer.

    For example, we might find that the arms are a variant of arms held by a related family. This practice is called "cadency" and is quite common in medieval armory. A similar practice might be called "feudal cadency"; some minor noblemen adopted arms incorporating a charge from the arms of their overlords.

    Merchants and craftsmen often included the tools of the trades in their
    arms, or an attribute of their patron saint.

    Very frequently, the family name of the original owner of the arms sounds similar to the name of one of the charges used in his arms. This practice
    is called "canting" and was extremely common in medieval armorial design. Sometimes the cant is easy to recognize: A lion for "Lyons" or a fox for "Fuchs". Sometimes it takes specialized knowledge: The fish in the arms of
    "de Lucy" is called a "lucy", an archaic name for a species of pike. The
    cant can involve more than one language: An English family "Harrison" bears
    a hedgehog, called "herisson" in Middle French.

    There are other patterns of armorial design found in one part of Europe or another, at one time or another. The more we know of the history of the
    people who originally bore the arms, we more likely we can make an
    intelligent guess as to the intent of the designer of those arms. But when
    it comes right down to it, we can very seldom know for certain.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    This MFAQ written by :
    Josh Mittleman and Francois Velde. ---------------------------------------------------------------------

    --
    François R. Velde
    velde@nospam.org (replace by "heraldica")
    Heraldica Web Site: http://www.heraldica.org/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Francois R. Velde@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 1 06:00:02 2019
    Summary: "What are my arms?"
    Archive-name: heraldry/mfaq
    Posting-Frequency: weekly
    Last-modified: 1997/3/25
    URL: http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/mfaq


    The Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    A common variant is:

    "Some guy in a mall told me he could look up my name in a database
    and tell me my family arms? Can I trust him?"

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers these questions. We've noticed that these questions
    are usually asked by people from the US, so the answers are intended to fit
    the US context.

    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    The short answer is this: Your family probably has no coat of arms. Most families don't. Discovering whether _your_ family has arms is a
    time-consuming problem in genealogy. Anyone who claims to be able to find
    your arms simply by looking in a book or a database is either ignorant or lying.


    To explain in more detail, we have to clear up some misconceptions:

    * There is no such thing as "the arms of Smith". Arms are associated with families or lineages. A coat was inherited by a child from his parent,
    either intact or somewhat modified. But any individual's claim to use a specific historical coat of arms rests on a family link with someone acknowledged to have used those arms.

    * Many unrelated families share the same surname. (There are 2.5 million Americans named "Smith".) Sharing a surname does not mean that you share
    the right to the same arms.

    * Conversely, many families with different names have the same coat of
    arms. A coat of arms does not uniquely identify a family.

    * A fairly small fraction of society ever used coats of arms at any time.
    Only a few Smith families actually bore arms. Arms were used throughout
    the social scale, but much moreso at the top than at the bottom. Most Americans are descended from lower-class immigrants. Statistically, then,
    the chance that an immigrant ancestor of yours bore arms is not very high.

    * No one on Earth has a complete record of all coats of arms used or
    granted throughout history.

    Therefore, if your name is Smith, and a book or a guy in a mall shows you a coat of arms with the name Smith under it, that proves nothing at all. You
    are just as likely to be related to the founder of the Virginia colony, or
    the Scottish economist, or the nephew of Senator Kennedy, or none of the
    above. The guy in the mall with the database is fudging these issues and trying to sell you a pig in a poke. His database is certainly incomplete
    and probably very inaccurate, and he doesn't care about pedigrees. He is
    just out to exploit the similarity between your name and some name in his database.

    In order to determine what your arms are, we would need much more than your name: We would need your pedigree traced back to someone who used a coat of arms. The standard of proof will vary with the needs: If you are of
    Scottish descent and wish to matriculate arms with the Scottish heraldic authority, you'd better have a well-documented pedigree, probably
    stretching over several centuries. If you only want to use arms for
    yourself in a country such as the USA where heraldry is unregulated, then
    it is just a matter of satisfying yourself. Strictly genealogical matters
    are best discussed in the soc.genealogy.* hierarchy.

    On the other hand, if you do live in a country where heraldry is
    unregulated, you are free to choose arms for yourself. You can choose any
    arms you want, whether or not your family relationships entitle you to
    those arms. You may decide to choose unique arms, created especially for
    you, or borrow arms from some existing family. Some people consider it bad taste to use existing arms if you cannot prove your descent from the family that bore them. In any case, it behooves you to acquaint yourself with heraldry, its rules and its aesthetics, so that you can design, or have designed for you, a coat that pleases you and others as well.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.


    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers this question.

    The short answer is that there are no systematic meanings assigned to the charges and tinctures in arms. There is no way to look at a set of arms
    and decypher the original designer's intended symbolism.

    At various times in the history of heraldry -- mostly between the 16th and early 19th centuries, and mostly in England -- various authors tried to
    create systems of meaning for every charge and tincture in arms. Some of
    them went so far as to claim that their system had _always_ been in use,
    and therefore that the symbolism of ancient arms could be deduced from
    their charts. It was all bunk. Some heralds probably did design arms according to one or another of these systems -- which aren't consistent, by
    the way -- but we have no way of know, in general, when this was done.

    In some instances, the heraldic designer left us notes explaining why he
    chose certain charges for someone's arms. Designer's notes are almost
    standard in modern cases, but as you look further back in history, they
    quickly become an exceptional rarity. We do have a few amusing early
    examples. One herald from the Tudor period, for example, left us the information that he provided a particular knight with arms featuring an ox because the knight had been castrated in battle.

    In the absense of specific information about a set of arms, we can only
    guess what symbolism was intended by the designer. Of course, we can make informed guesses.

    Some charges are easy: Crosses were probably always intended to express Christian devotion. Lions and eagles have always represented nobility.
    And there is a small number of charges which always have a particular
    meaning: the red hand of Ulster, the royal tressure of Scotland, etc.
    But when we look at more common charges or at tinctures, there is no
    general answer.

    To go further, you need to research the person who bore the arms and the circumstances under which he received or adopted them. This research may reveal other clues to the motives of the designer.

    For example, we might find that the arms are a variant of arms held by a related family. This practice is called "cadency" and is quite common in medieval armory. A similar practice might be called "feudal cadency"; some minor noblemen adopted arms incorporating a charge from the arms of their overlords.

    Merchants and craftsmen often included the tools of the trades in their
    arms, or an attribute of their patron saint.

    Very frequently, the family name of the original owner of the arms sounds similar to the name of one of the charges used in his arms. This practice
    is called "canting" and was extremely common in medieval armorial design. Sometimes the cant is easy to recognize: A lion for "Lyons" or a fox for "Fuchs". Sometimes it takes specialized knowledge: The fish in the arms of
    "de Lucy" is called a "lucy", an archaic name for a species of pike. The
    cant can involve more than one language: An English family "Harrison" bears
    a hedgehog, called "herisson" in Middle French.

    There are other patterns of armorial design found in one part of Europe or another, at one time or another. The more we know of the history of the
    people who originally bore the arms, we more likely we can make an
    intelligent guess as to the intent of the designer of those arms. But when
    it comes right down to it, we can very seldom know for certain.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    This MFAQ written by :
    Josh Mittleman and Francois Velde. ---------------------------------------------------------------------

    --
    François R. Velde
    velde@nospam.org (replace by "heraldica")
    Heraldica Web Site: http://www.heraldica.org/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Francois R. Velde@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jul 1 06:00:03 2019
    Summary: "What are my arms?"
    Archive-name: heraldry/mfaq
    Posting-Frequency: weekly
    Last-modified: 1997/3/25
    URL: http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/mfaq


    The Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    A common variant is:

    "Some guy in a mall told me he could look up my name in a database
    and tell me my family arms? Can I trust him?"

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers these questions. We've noticed that these questions
    are usually asked by people from the US, so the answers are intended to fit
    the US context.

    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    The short answer is this: Your family probably has no coat of arms. Most families don't. Discovering whether _your_ family has arms is a
    time-consuming problem in genealogy. Anyone who claims to be able to find
    your arms simply by looking in a book or a database is either ignorant or lying.


    To explain in more detail, we have to clear up some misconceptions:

    * There is no such thing as "the arms of Smith". Arms are associated with families or lineages. A coat was inherited by a child from his parent,
    either intact or somewhat modified. But any individual's claim to use a specific historical coat of arms rests on a family link with someone acknowledged to have used those arms.

    * Many unrelated families share the same surname. (There are 2.5 million Americans named "Smith".) Sharing a surname does not mean that you share
    the right to the same arms.

    * Conversely, many families with different names have the same coat of
    arms. A coat of arms does not uniquely identify a family.

    * A fairly small fraction of society ever used coats of arms at any time.
    Only a few Smith families actually bore arms. Arms were used throughout
    the social scale, but much moreso at the top than at the bottom. Most Americans are descended from lower-class immigrants. Statistically, then,
    the chance that an immigrant ancestor of yours bore arms is not very high.

    * No one on Earth has a complete record of all coats of arms used or
    granted throughout history.

    Therefore, if your name is Smith, and a book or a guy in a mall shows you a coat of arms with the name Smith under it, that proves nothing at all. You
    are just as likely to be related to the founder of the Virginia colony, or
    the Scottish economist, or the nephew of Senator Kennedy, or none of the
    above. The guy in the mall with the database is fudging these issues and trying to sell you a pig in a poke. His database is certainly incomplete
    and probably very inaccurate, and he doesn't care about pedigrees. He is
    just out to exploit the similarity between your name and some name in his database.

    In order to determine what your arms are, we would need much more than your name: We would need your pedigree traced back to someone who used a coat of arms. The standard of proof will vary with the needs: If you are of
    Scottish descent and wish to matriculate arms with the Scottish heraldic authority, you'd better have a well-documented pedigree, probably
    stretching over several centuries. If you only want to use arms for
    yourself in a country such as the USA where heraldry is unregulated, then
    it is just a matter of satisfying yourself. Strictly genealogical matters
    are best discussed in the soc.genealogy.* hierarchy.

    On the other hand, if you do live in a country where heraldry is
    unregulated, you are free to choose arms for yourself. You can choose any
    arms you want, whether or not your family relationships entitle you to
    those arms. You may decide to choose unique arms, created especially for
    you, or borrow arms from some existing family. Some people consider it bad taste to use existing arms if you cannot prove your descent from the family that bore them. In any case, it behooves you to acquaint yourself with heraldry, its rules and its aesthetics, so that you can design, or have designed for you, a coat that pleases you and others as well.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.


    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers this question.

    The short answer is that there are no systematic meanings assigned to the charges and tinctures in arms. There is no way to look at a set of arms
    and decypher the original designer's intended symbolism.

    At various times in the history of heraldry -- mostly between the 16th and early 19th centuries, and mostly in England -- various authors tried to
    create systems of meaning for every charge and tincture in arms. Some of
    them went so far as to claim that their system had _always_ been in use,
    and therefore that the symbolism of ancient arms could be deduced from
    their charts. It was all bunk. Some heralds probably did design arms according to one or another of these systems -- which aren't consistent, by
    the way -- but we have no way of know, in general, when this was done.

    In some instances, the heraldic designer left us notes explaining why he
    chose certain charges for someone's arms. Designer's notes are almost
    standard in modern cases, but as you look further back in history, they
    quickly become an exceptional rarity. We do have a few amusing early
    examples. One herald from the Tudor period, for example, left us the information that he provided a particular knight with arms featuring an ox because the knight had been castrated in battle.

    In the absense of specific information about a set of arms, we can only
    guess what symbolism was intended by the designer. Of course, we can make informed guesses.

    Some charges are easy: Crosses were probably always intended to express Christian devotion. Lions and eagles have always represented nobility.
    And there is a small number of charges which always have a particular
    meaning: the red hand of Ulster, the royal tressure of Scotland, etc.
    But when we look at more common charges or at tinctures, there is no
    general answer.

    To go further, you need to research the person who bore the arms and the circumstances under which he received or adopted them. This research may reveal other clues to the motives of the designer.

    For example, we might find that the arms are a variant of arms held by a related family. This practice is called "cadency" and is quite common in medieval armory. A similar practice might be called "feudal cadency"; some minor noblemen adopted arms incorporating a charge from the arms of their overlords.

    Merchants and craftsmen often included the tools of the trades in their
    arms, or an attribute of their patron saint.

    Very frequently, the family name of the original owner of the arms sounds similar to the name of one of the charges used in his arms. This practice
    is called "canting" and was extremely common in medieval armorial design. Sometimes the cant is easy to recognize: A lion for "Lyons" or a fox for "Fuchs". Sometimes it takes specialized knowledge: The fish in the arms of
    "de Lucy" is called a "lucy", an archaic name for a species of pike. The
    cant can involve more than one language: An English family "Harrison" bears
    a hedgehog, called "herisson" in Middle French.

    There are other patterns of armorial design found in one part of Europe or another, at one time or another. The more we know of the history of the
    people who originally bore the arms, we more likely we can make an
    intelligent guess as to the intent of the designer of those arms. But when
    it comes right down to it, we can very seldom know for certain.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    This MFAQ written by :
    Josh Mittleman and Francois Velde. ---------------------------------------------------------------------

    --
    François R. Velde
    velde@nospam.org (replace by "heraldica")
    Heraldica Web Site: http://www.heraldica.org/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Francois R. Velde@21:1/5 to All on Thu Aug 1 06:00:53 2019
    Summary: "What are my arms?"
    Archive-name: heraldry/mfaq
    Posting-Frequency: weekly
    Last-modified: 1997/3/25
    URL: http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/mfaq


    The Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    A common variant is:

    "Some guy in a mall told me he could look up my name in a database
    and tell me my family arms? Can I trust him?"

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers these questions. We've noticed that these questions
    are usually asked by people from the US, so the answers are intended to fit
    the US context.

    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    The short answer is this: Your family probably has no coat of arms. Most families don't. Discovering whether _your_ family has arms is a
    time-consuming problem in genealogy. Anyone who claims to be able to find
    your arms simply by looking in a book or a database is either ignorant or lying.


    To explain in more detail, we have to clear up some misconceptions:

    * There is no such thing as "the arms of Smith". Arms are associated with families or lineages. A coat was inherited by a child from his parent,
    either intact or somewhat modified. But any individual's claim to use a specific historical coat of arms rests on a family link with someone acknowledged to have used those arms.

    * Many unrelated families share the same surname. (There are 2.5 million Americans named "Smith".) Sharing a surname does not mean that you share
    the right to the same arms.

    * Conversely, many families with different names have the same coat of
    arms. A coat of arms does not uniquely identify a family.

    * A fairly small fraction of society ever used coats of arms at any time.
    Only a few Smith families actually bore arms. Arms were used throughout
    the social scale, but much moreso at the top than at the bottom. Most Americans are descended from lower-class immigrants. Statistically, then,
    the chance that an immigrant ancestor of yours bore arms is not very high.

    * No one on Earth has a complete record of all coats of arms used or
    granted throughout history.

    Therefore, if your name is Smith, and a book or a guy in a mall shows you a coat of arms with the name Smith under it, that proves nothing at all. You
    are just as likely to be related to the founder of the Virginia colony, or
    the Scottish economist, or the nephew of Senator Kennedy, or none of the
    above. The guy in the mall with the database is fudging these issues and trying to sell you a pig in a poke. His database is certainly incomplete
    and probably very inaccurate, and he doesn't care about pedigrees. He is
    just out to exploit the similarity between your name and some name in his database.

    In order to determine what your arms are, we would need much more than your name: We would need your pedigree traced back to someone who used a coat of arms. The standard of proof will vary with the needs: If you are of
    Scottish descent and wish to matriculate arms with the Scottish heraldic authority, you'd better have a well-documented pedigree, probably
    stretching over several centuries. If you only want to use arms for
    yourself in a country such as the USA where heraldry is unregulated, then
    it is just a matter of satisfying yourself. Strictly genealogical matters
    are best discussed in the soc.genealogy.* hierarchy.

    On the other hand, if you do live in a country where heraldry is
    unregulated, you are free to choose arms for yourself. You can choose any
    arms you want, whether or not your family relationships entitle you to
    those arms. You may decide to choose unique arms, created especially for
    you, or borrow arms from some existing family. Some people consider it bad taste to use existing arms if you cannot prove your descent from the family that bore them. In any case, it behooves you to acquaint yourself with heraldry, its rules and its aesthetics, so that you can design, or have designed for you, a coat that pleases you and others as well.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.


    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers this question.

    The short answer is that there are no systematic meanings assigned to the charges and tinctures in arms. There is no way to look at a set of arms
    and decypher the original designer's intended symbolism.

    At various times in the history of heraldry -- mostly between the 16th and early 19th centuries, and mostly in England -- various authors tried to
    create systems of meaning for every charge and tincture in arms. Some of
    them went so far as to claim that their system had _always_ been in use,
    and therefore that the symbolism of ancient arms could be deduced from
    their charts. It was all bunk. Some heralds probably did design arms according to one or another of these systems -- which aren't consistent, by
    the way -- but we have no way of know, in general, when this was done.

    In some instances, the heraldic designer left us notes explaining why he
    chose certain charges for someone's arms. Designer's notes are almost
    standard in modern cases, but as you look further back in history, they
    quickly become an exceptional rarity. We do have a few amusing early
    examples. One herald from the Tudor period, for example, left us the information that he provided a particular knight with arms featuring an ox because the knight had been castrated in battle.

    In the absense of specific information about a set of arms, we can only
    guess what symbolism was intended by the designer. Of course, we can make informed guesses.

    Some charges are easy: Crosses were probably always intended to express Christian devotion. Lions and eagles have always represented nobility.
    And there is a small number of charges which always have a particular
    meaning: the red hand of Ulster, the royal tressure of Scotland, etc.
    But when we look at more common charges or at tinctures, there is no
    general answer.

    To go further, you need to research the person who bore the arms and the circumstances under which he received or adopted them. This research may reveal other clues to the motives of the designer.

    For example, we might find that the arms are a variant of arms held by a related family. This practice is called "cadency" and is quite common in medieval armory. A similar practice might be called "feudal cadency"; some minor noblemen adopted arms incorporating a charge from the arms of their overlords.

    Merchants and craftsmen often included the tools of the trades in their
    arms, or an attribute of their patron saint.

    Very frequently, the family name of the original owner of the arms sounds similar to the name of one of the charges used in his arms. This practice
    is called "canting" and was extremely common in medieval armorial design. Sometimes the cant is easy to recognize: A lion for "Lyons" or a fox for "Fuchs". Sometimes it takes specialized knowledge: The fish in the arms of
    "de Lucy" is called a "lucy", an archaic name for a species of pike. The
    cant can involve more than one language: An English family "Harrison" bears
    a hedgehog, called "herisson" in Middle French.

    There are other patterns of armorial design found in one part of Europe or another, at one time or another. The more we know of the history of the
    people who originally bore the arms, we more likely we can make an
    intelligent guess as to the intent of the designer of those arms. But when
    it comes right down to it, we can very seldom know for certain.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    This MFAQ written by :
    Josh Mittleman and Francois Velde. ---------------------------------------------------------------------

    --
    François R. Velde
    velde@nospam.org (replace by "heraldica")
    Heraldica Web Site: http://www.heraldica.org/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Francois R. Velde@21:1/5 to All on Sun Sep 1 06:03:36 2019
    Summary: "What are my arms?"
    Archive-name: heraldry/mfaq
    Posting-Frequency: weekly
    Last-modified: 1997/3/25
    URL: http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/mfaq


    The Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    A common variant is:

    "Some guy in a mall told me he could look up my name in a database
    and tell me my family arms? Can I trust him?"

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers these questions. We've noticed that these questions
    are usually asked by people from the US, so the answers are intended to fit
    the US context.

    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    The short answer is this: Your family probably has no coat of arms. Most families don't. Discovering whether _your_ family has arms is a
    time-consuming problem in genealogy. Anyone who claims to be able to find
    your arms simply by looking in a book or a database is either ignorant or lying.


    To explain in more detail, we have to clear up some misconceptions:

    * There is no such thing as "the arms of Smith". Arms are associated with families or lineages. A coat was inherited by a child from his parent,
    either intact or somewhat modified. But any individual's claim to use a specific historical coat of arms rests on a family link with someone acknowledged to have used those arms.

    * Many unrelated families share the same surname. (There are 2.5 million Americans named "Smith".) Sharing a surname does not mean that you share
    the right to the same arms.

    * Conversely, many families with different names have the same coat of
    arms. A coat of arms does not uniquely identify a family.

    * A fairly small fraction of society ever used coats of arms at any time.
    Only a few Smith families actually bore arms. Arms were used throughout
    the social scale, but much moreso at the top than at the bottom. Most Americans are descended from lower-class immigrants. Statistically, then,
    the chance that an immigrant ancestor of yours bore arms is not very high.

    * No one on Earth has a complete record of all coats of arms used or
    granted throughout history.

    Therefore, if your name is Smith, and a book or a guy in a mall shows you a coat of arms with the name Smith under it, that proves nothing at all. You
    are just as likely to be related to the founder of the Virginia colony, or
    the Scottish economist, or the nephew of Senator Kennedy, or none of the
    above. The guy in the mall with the database is fudging these issues and trying to sell you a pig in a poke. His database is certainly incomplete
    and probably very inaccurate, and he doesn't care about pedigrees. He is
    just out to exploit the similarity between your name and some name in his database.

    In order to determine what your arms are, we would need much more than your name: We would need your pedigree traced back to someone who used a coat of arms. The standard of proof will vary with the needs: If you are of
    Scottish descent and wish to matriculate arms with the Scottish heraldic authority, you'd better have a well-documented pedigree, probably
    stretching over several centuries. If you only want to use arms for
    yourself in a country such as the USA where heraldry is unregulated, then
    it is just a matter of satisfying yourself. Strictly genealogical matters
    are best discussed in the soc.genealogy.* hierarchy.

    On the other hand, if you do live in a country where heraldry is
    unregulated, you are free to choose arms for yourself. You can choose any
    arms you want, whether or not your family relationships entitle you to
    those arms. You may decide to choose unique arms, created especially for
    you, or borrow arms from some existing family. Some people consider it bad taste to use existing arms if you cannot prove your descent from the family that bore them. In any case, it behooves you to acquaint yourself with heraldry, its rules and its aesthetics, so that you can design, or have designed for you, a coat that pleases you and others as well.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.


    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers this question.

    The short answer is that there are no systematic meanings assigned to the charges and tinctures in arms. There is no way to look at a set of arms
    and decypher the original designer's intended symbolism.

    At various times in the history of heraldry -- mostly between the 16th and early 19th centuries, and mostly in England -- various authors tried to
    create systems of meaning for every charge and tincture in arms. Some of
    them went so far as to claim that their system had _always_ been in use,
    and therefore that the symbolism of ancient arms could be deduced from
    their charts. It was all bunk. Some heralds probably did design arms according to one or another of these systems -- which aren't consistent, by
    the way -- but we have no way of know, in general, when this was done.

    In some instances, the heraldic designer left us notes explaining why he
    chose certain charges for someone's arms. Designer's notes are almost
    standard in modern cases, but as you look further back in history, they
    quickly become an exceptional rarity. We do have a few amusing early
    examples. One herald from the Tudor period, for example, left us the information that he provided a particular knight with arms featuring an ox because the knight had been castrated in battle.

    In the absense of specific information about a set of arms, we can only
    guess what symbolism was intended by the designer. Of course, we can make informed guesses.

    Some charges are easy: Crosses were probably always intended to express Christian devotion. Lions and eagles have always represented nobility.
    And there is a small number of charges which always have a particular
    meaning: the red hand of Ulster, the royal tressure of Scotland, etc.
    But when we look at more common charges or at tinctures, there is no
    general answer.

    To go further, you need to research the person who bore the arms and the circumstances under which he received or adopted them. This research may reveal other clues to the motives of the designer.

    For example, we might find that the arms are a variant of arms held by a related family. This practice is called "cadency" and is quite common in medieval armory. A similar practice might be called "feudal cadency"; some minor noblemen adopted arms incorporating a charge from the arms of their overlords.

    Merchants and craftsmen often included the tools of the trades in their
    arms, or an attribute of their patron saint.

    Very frequently, the family name of the original owner of the arms sounds similar to the name of one of the charges used in his arms. This practice
    is called "canting" and was extremely common in medieval armorial design. Sometimes the cant is easy to recognize: A lion for "Lyons" or a fox for "Fuchs". Sometimes it takes specialized knowledge: The fish in the arms of
    "de Lucy" is called a "lucy", an archaic name for a species of pike. The
    cant can involve more than one language: An English family "Harrison" bears
    a hedgehog, called "herisson" in Middle French.

    There are other patterns of armorial design found in one part of Europe or another, at one time or another. The more we know of the history of the
    people who originally bore the arms, we more likely we can make an
    intelligent guess as to the intent of the designer of those arms. But when
    it comes right down to it, we can very seldom know for certain.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    This MFAQ written by :
    Josh Mittleman and Francois Velde. ---------------------------------------------------------------------

    --
    François R. Velde
    velde@nospam.org (replace by "heraldica")
    Heraldica Web Site: http://www.heraldica.org/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Francois R. Velde@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 1 06:00:05 2019
    Summary: "What are my arms?"
    Archive-name: heraldry/mfaq
    Posting-Frequency: weekly
    Last-modified: 1997/3/25
    URL: http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/mfaq


    The Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    A common variant is:

    "Some guy in a mall told me he could look up my name in a database
    and tell me my family arms? Can I trust him?"

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers these questions. We've noticed that these questions
    are usually asked by people from the US, so the answers are intended to fit
    the US context.

    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    The short answer is this: Your family probably has no coat of arms. Most families don't. Discovering whether _your_ family has arms is a
    time-consuming problem in genealogy. Anyone who claims to be able to find
    your arms simply by looking in a book or a database is either ignorant or lying.


    To explain in more detail, we have to clear up some misconceptions:

    * There is no such thing as "the arms of Smith". Arms are associated with families or lineages. A coat was inherited by a child from his parent,
    either intact or somewhat modified. But any individual's claim to use a specific historical coat of arms rests on a family link with someone acknowledged to have used those arms.

    * Many unrelated families share the same surname. (There are 2.5 million Americans named "Smith".) Sharing a surname does not mean that you share
    the right to the same arms.

    * Conversely, many families with different names have the same coat of
    arms. A coat of arms does not uniquely identify a family.

    * A fairly small fraction of society ever used coats of arms at any time.
    Only a few Smith families actually bore arms. Arms were used throughout
    the social scale, but much moreso at the top than at the bottom. Most Americans are descended from lower-class immigrants. Statistically, then,
    the chance that an immigrant ancestor of yours bore arms is not very high.

    * No one on Earth has a complete record of all coats of arms used or
    granted throughout history.

    Therefore, if your name is Smith, and a book or a guy in a mall shows you a coat of arms with the name Smith under it, that proves nothing at all. You
    are just as likely to be related to the founder of the Virginia colony, or
    the Scottish economist, or the nephew of Senator Kennedy, or none of the
    above. The guy in the mall with the database is fudging these issues and trying to sell you a pig in a poke. His database is certainly incomplete
    and probably very inaccurate, and he doesn't care about pedigrees. He is
    just out to exploit the similarity between your name and some name in his database.

    In order to determine what your arms are, we would need much more than your name: We would need your pedigree traced back to someone who used a coat of arms. The standard of proof will vary with the needs: If you are of
    Scottish descent and wish to matriculate arms with the Scottish heraldic authority, you'd better have a well-documented pedigree, probably
    stretching over several centuries. If you only want to use arms for
    yourself in a country such as the USA where heraldry is unregulated, then
    it is just a matter of satisfying yourself. Strictly genealogical matters
    are best discussed in the soc.genealogy.* hierarchy.

    On the other hand, if you do live in a country where heraldry is
    unregulated, you are free to choose arms for yourself. You can choose any
    arms you want, whether or not your family relationships entitle you to
    those arms. You may decide to choose unique arms, created especially for
    you, or borrow arms from some existing family. Some people consider it bad taste to use existing arms if you cannot prove your descent from the family that bore them. In any case, it behooves you to acquaint yourself with heraldry, its rules and its aesthetics, so that you can design, or have designed for you, a coat that pleases you and others as well.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.


    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers this question.

    The short answer is that there are no systematic meanings assigned to the charges and tinctures in arms. There is no way to look at a set of arms
    and decypher the original designer's intended symbolism.

    At various times in the history of heraldry -- mostly between the 16th and early 19th centuries, and mostly in England -- various authors tried to
    create systems of meaning for every charge and tincture in arms. Some of
    them went so far as to claim that their system had _always_ been in use,
    and therefore that the symbolism of ancient arms could be deduced from
    their charts. It was all bunk. Some heralds probably did design arms according to one or another of these systems -- which aren't consistent, by
    the way -- but we have no way of know, in general, when this was done.

    In some instances, the heraldic designer left us notes explaining why he
    chose certain charges for someone's arms. Designer's notes are almost
    standard in modern cases, but as you look further back in history, they
    quickly become an exceptional rarity. We do have a few amusing early
    examples. One herald from the Tudor period, for example, left us the information that he provided a particular knight with arms featuring an ox because the knight had been castrated in battle.

    In the absense of specific information about a set of arms, we can only
    guess what symbolism was intended by the designer. Of course, we can make informed guesses.

    Some charges are easy: Crosses were probably always intended to express Christian devotion. Lions and eagles have always represented nobility.
    And there is a small number of charges which always have a particular
    meaning: the red hand of Ulster, the royal tressure of Scotland, etc.
    But when we look at more common charges or at tinctures, there is no
    general answer.

    To go further, you need to research the person who bore the arms and the circumstances under which he received or adopted them. This research may reveal other clues to the motives of the designer.

    For example, we might find that the arms are a variant of arms held by a related family. This practice is called "cadency" and is quite common in medieval armory. A similar practice might be called "feudal cadency"; some minor noblemen adopted arms incorporating a charge from the arms of their overlords.

    Merchants and craftsmen often included the tools of the trades in their
    arms, or an attribute of their patron saint.

    Very frequently, the family name of the original owner of the arms sounds similar to the name of one of the charges used in his arms. This practice
    is called "canting" and was extremely common in medieval armorial design. Sometimes the cant is easy to recognize: A lion for "Lyons" or a fox for "Fuchs". Sometimes it takes specialized knowledge: The fish in the arms of
    "de Lucy" is called a "lucy", an archaic name for a species of pike. The
    cant can involve more than one language: An English family "Harrison" bears
    a hedgehog, called "herisson" in Middle French.

    There are other patterns of armorial design found in one part of Europe or another, at one time or another. The more we know of the history of the
    people who originally bore the arms, we more likely we can make an
    intelligent guess as to the intent of the designer of those arms. But when
    it comes right down to it, we can very seldom know for certain.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    This MFAQ written by :
    Josh Mittleman and Francois Velde. ---------------------------------------------------------------------

    --
    François R. Velde
    velde@nospam.org (replace by "heraldica")
    Heraldica Web Site: http://www.heraldica.org/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Francois R. Velde@21:1/5 to All on Fri Nov 1 06:00:05 2019
    Summary: "What are my arms?"
    Archive-name: heraldry/mfaq
    Posting-Frequency: weekly
    Last-modified: 1997/3/25
    URL: http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/mfaq


    The Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    A common variant is:

    "Some guy in a mall told me he could look up my name in a database
    and tell me my family arms? Can I trust him?"

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers these questions. We've noticed that these questions
    are usually asked by people from the US, so the answers are intended to fit
    the US context.

    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    The short answer is this: Your family probably has no coat of arms. Most families don't. Discovering whether _your_ family has arms is a
    time-consuming problem in genealogy. Anyone who claims to be able to find
    your arms simply by looking in a book or a database is either ignorant or lying.


    To explain in more detail, we have to clear up some misconceptions:

    * There is no such thing as "the arms of Smith". Arms are associated with families or lineages. A coat was inherited by a child from his parent,
    either intact or somewhat modified. But any individual's claim to use a specific historical coat of arms rests on a family link with someone acknowledged to have used those arms.

    * Many unrelated families share the same surname. (There are 2.5 million Americans named "Smith".) Sharing a surname does not mean that you share
    the right to the same arms.

    * Conversely, many families with different names have the same coat of
    arms. A coat of arms does not uniquely identify a family.

    * A fairly small fraction of society ever used coats of arms at any time.
    Only a few Smith families actually bore arms. Arms were used throughout
    the social scale, but much moreso at the top than at the bottom. Most Americans are descended from lower-class immigrants. Statistically, then,
    the chance that an immigrant ancestor of yours bore arms is not very high.

    * No one on Earth has a complete record of all coats of arms used or
    granted throughout history.

    Therefore, if your name is Smith, and a book or a guy in a mall shows you a coat of arms with the name Smith under it, that proves nothing at all. You
    are just as likely to be related to the founder of the Virginia colony, or
    the Scottish economist, or the nephew of Senator Kennedy, or none of the
    above. The guy in the mall with the database is fudging these issues and trying to sell you a pig in a poke. His database is certainly incomplete
    and probably very inaccurate, and he doesn't care about pedigrees. He is
    just out to exploit the similarity between your name and some name in his database.

    In order to determine what your arms are, we would need much more than your name: We would need your pedigree traced back to someone who used a coat of arms. The standard of proof will vary with the needs: If you are of
    Scottish descent and wish to matriculate arms with the Scottish heraldic authority, you'd better have a well-documented pedigree, probably
    stretching over several centuries. If you only want to use arms for
    yourself in a country such as the USA where heraldry is unregulated, then
    it is just a matter of satisfying yourself. Strictly genealogical matters
    are best discussed in the soc.genealogy.* hierarchy.

    On the other hand, if you do live in a country where heraldry is
    unregulated, you are free to choose arms for yourself. You can choose any
    arms you want, whether or not your family relationships entitle you to
    those arms. You may decide to choose unique arms, created especially for
    you, or borrow arms from some existing family. Some people consider it bad taste to use existing arms if you cannot prove your descent from the family that bore them. In any case, it behooves you to acquaint yourself with heraldry, its rules and its aesthetics, so that you can design, or have designed for you, a coat that pleases you and others as well.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.


    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers this question.

    The short answer is that there are no systematic meanings assigned to the charges and tinctures in arms. There is no way to look at a set of arms
    and decypher the original designer's intended symbolism.

    At various times in the history of heraldry -- mostly between the 16th and early 19th centuries, and mostly in England -- various authors tried to
    create systems of meaning for every charge and tincture in arms. Some of
    them went so far as to claim that their system had _always_ been in use,
    and therefore that the symbolism of ancient arms could be deduced from
    their charts. It was all bunk. Some heralds probably did design arms according to one or another of these systems -- which aren't consistent, by
    the way -- but we have no way of know, in general, when this was done.

    In some instances, the heraldic designer left us notes explaining why he
    chose certain charges for someone's arms. Designer's notes are almost
    standard in modern cases, but as you look further back in history, they
    quickly become an exceptional rarity. We do have a few amusing early
    examples. One herald from the Tudor period, for example, left us the information that he provided a particular knight with arms featuring an ox because the knight had been castrated in battle.

    In the absense of specific information about a set of arms, we can only
    guess what symbolism was intended by the designer. Of course, we can make informed guesses.

    Some charges are easy: Crosses were probably always intended to express Christian devotion. Lions and eagles have always represented nobility.
    And there is a small number of charges which always have a particular
    meaning: the red hand of Ulster, the royal tressure of Scotland, etc.
    But when we look at more common charges or at tinctures, there is no
    general answer.

    To go further, you need to research the person who bore the arms and the circumstances under which he received or adopted them. This research may reveal other clues to the motives of the designer.

    For example, we might find that the arms are a variant of arms held by a related family. This practice is called "cadency" and is quite common in medieval armory. A similar practice might be called "feudal cadency"; some minor noblemen adopted arms incorporating a charge from the arms of their overlords.

    Merchants and craftsmen often included the tools of the trades in their
    arms, or an attribute of their patron saint.

    Very frequently, the family name of the original owner of the arms sounds similar to the name of one of the charges used in his arms. This practice
    is called "canting" and was extremely common in medieval armorial design. Sometimes the cant is easy to recognize: A lion for "Lyons" or a fox for "Fuchs". Sometimes it takes specialized knowledge: The fish in the arms of
    "de Lucy" is called a "lucy", an archaic name for a species of pike. The
    cant can involve more than one language: An English family "Harrison" bears
    a hedgehog, called "herisson" in Middle French.

    There are other patterns of armorial design found in one part of Europe or another, at one time or another. The more we know of the history of the
    people who originally bore the arms, we more likely we can make an
    intelligent guess as to the intent of the designer of those arms. But when
    it comes right down to it, we can very seldom know for certain.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    This MFAQ written by :
    Josh Mittleman and Francois Velde. ---------------------------------------------------------------------

    --
    François R. Velde
    velde@nospam.org (replace by "heraldica")
    Heraldica Web Site: http://www.heraldica.org/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Francois R. Velde@21:1/5 to All on Sun Dec 1 07:00:05 2019
    Summary: "What are my arms?"
    Archive-name: heraldry/mfaq
    Posting-Frequency: weekly
    Last-modified: 1997/3/25
    URL: http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/mfaq


    The Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    A common variant is:

    "Some guy in a mall told me he could look up my name in a database
    and tell me my family arms? Can I trust him?"

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers these questions. We've noticed that these questions
    are usually asked by people from the US, so the answers are intended to fit
    the US context.

    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    The short answer is this: Your family probably has no coat of arms. Most families don't. Discovering whether _your_ family has arms is a
    time-consuming problem in genealogy. Anyone who claims to be able to find
    your arms simply by looking in a book or a database is either ignorant or lying.


    To explain in more detail, we have to clear up some misconceptions:

    * There is no such thing as "the arms of Smith". Arms are associated with families or lineages. A coat was inherited by a child from his parent,
    either intact or somewhat modified. But any individual's claim to use a specific historical coat of arms rests on a family link with someone acknowledged to have used those arms.

    * Many unrelated families share the same surname. (There are 2.5 million Americans named "Smith".) Sharing a surname does not mean that you share
    the right to the same arms.

    * Conversely, many families with different names have the same coat of
    arms. A coat of arms does not uniquely identify a family.

    * A fairly small fraction of society ever used coats of arms at any time.
    Only a few Smith families actually bore arms. Arms were used throughout
    the social scale, but much moreso at the top than at the bottom. Most Americans are descended from lower-class immigrants. Statistically, then,
    the chance that an immigrant ancestor of yours bore arms is not very high.

    * No one on Earth has a complete record of all coats of arms used or
    granted throughout history.

    Therefore, if your name is Smith, and a book or a guy in a mall shows you a coat of arms with the name Smith under it, that proves nothing at all. You
    are just as likely to be related to the founder of the Virginia colony, or
    the Scottish economist, or the nephew of Senator Kennedy, or none of the
    above. The guy in the mall with the database is fudging these issues and trying to sell you a pig in a poke. His database is certainly incomplete
    and probably very inaccurate, and he doesn't care about pedigrees. He is
    just out to exploit the similarity between your name and some name in his database.

    In order to determine what your arms are, we would need much more than your name: We would need your pedigree traced back to someone who used a coat of arms. The standard of proof will vary with the needs: If you are of
    Scottish descent and wish to matriculate arms with the Scottish heraldic authority, you'd better have a well-documented pedigree, probably
    stretching over several centuries. If you only want to use arms for
    yourself in a country such as the USA where heraldry is unregulated, then
    it is just a matter of satisfying yourself. Strictly genealogical matters
    are best discussed in the soc.genealogy.* hierarchy.

    On the other hand, if you do live in a country where heraldry is
    unregulated, you are free to choose arms for yourself. You can choose any
    arms you want, whether or not your family relationships entitle you to
    those arms. You may decide to choose unique arms, created especially for
    you, or borrow arms from some existing family. Some people consider it bad taste to use existing arms if you cannot prove your descent from the family that bore them. In any case, it behooves you to acquaint yourself with heraldry, its rules and its aesthetics, so that you can design, or have designed for you, a coat that pleases you and others as well.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.


    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers this question.

    The short answer is that there are no systematic meanings assigned to the charges and tinctures in arms. There is no way to look at a set of arms
    and decypher the original designer's intended symbolism.

    At various times in the history of heraldry -- mostly between the 16th and early 19th centuries, and mostly in England -- various authors tried to
    create systems of meaning for every charge and tincture in arms. Some of
    them went so far as to claim that their system had _always_ been in use,
    and therefore that the symbolism of ancient arms could be deduced from
    their charts. It was all bunk. Some heralds probably did design arms according to one or another of these systems -- which aren't consistent, by
    the way -- but we have no way of know, in general, when this was done.

    In some instances, the heraldic designer left us notes explaining why he
    chose certain charges for someone's arms. Designer's notes are almost
    standard in modern cases, but as you look further back in history, they
    quickly become an exceptional rarity. We do have a few amusing early
    examples. One herald from the Tudor period, for example, left us the information that he provided a particular knight with arms featuring an ox because the knight had been castrated in battle.

    In the absense of specific information about a set of arms, we can only
    guess what symbolism was intended by the designer. Of course, we can make informed guesses.

    Some charges are easy: Crosses were probably always intended to express Christian devotion. Lions and eagles have always represented nobility.
    And there is a small number of charges which always have a particular
    meaning: the red hand of Ulster, the royal tressure of Scotland, etc.
    But when we look at more common charges or at tinctures, there is no
    general answer.

    To go further, you need to research the person who bore the arms and the circumstances under which he received or adopted them. This research may reveal other clues to the motives of the designer.

    For example, we might find that the arms are a variant of arms held by a related family. This practice is called "cadency" and is quite common in medieval armory. A similar practice might be called "feudal cadency"; some minor noblemen adopted arms incorporating a charge from the arms of their overlords.

    Merchants and craftsmen often included the tools of the trades in their
    arms, or an attribute of their patron saint.

    Very frequently, the family name of the original owner of the arms sounds similar to the name of one of the charges used in his arms. This practice
    is called "canting" and was extremely common in medieval armorial design. Sometimes the cant is easy to recognize: A lion for "Lyons" or a fox for "Fuchs". Sometimes it takes specialized knowledge: The fish in the arms of
    "de Lucy" is called a "lucy", an archaic name for a species of pike. The
    cant can involve more than one language: An English family "Harrison" bears
    a hedgehog, called "herisson" in Middle French.

    There are other patterns of armorial design found in one part of Europe or another, at one time or another. The more we know of the history of the
    people who originally bore the arms, we more likely we can make an
    intelligent guess as to the intent of the designer of those arms. But when
    it comes right down to it, we can very seldom know for certain.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    This MFAQ written by :
    Josh Mittleman and Francois Velde. ---------------------------------------------------------------------

    --
    François R. Velde
    velde@nospam.org (replace by "heraldica")
    Heraldica Web Site: http://www.heraldica.org/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Francois R. Velde@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jan 1 07:00:05 2020
    Summary: "What are my arms?"
    Archive-name: heraldry/mfaq
    Posting-Frequency: weekly
    Last-modified: 1997/3/25
    URL: http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/mfaq


    The Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    A common variant is:

    "Some guy in a mall told me he could look up my name in a database
    and tell me my family arms? Can I trust him?"

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers these questions. We've noticed that these questions
    are usually asked by people from the US, so the answers are intended to fit
    the US context.

    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    The short answer is this: Your family probably has no coat of arms. Most families don't. Discovering whether _your_ family has arms is a
    time-consuming problem in genealogy. Anyone who claims to be able to find
    your arms simply by looking in a book or a database is either ignorant or lying.


    To explain in more detail, we have to clear up some misconceptions:

    * There is no such thing as "the arms of Smith". Arms are associated with families or lineages. A coat was inherited by a child from his parent,
    either intact or somewhat modified. But any individual's claim to use a specific historical coat of arms rests on a family link with someone acknowledged to have used those arms.

    * Many unrelated families share the same surname. (There are 2.5 million Americans named "Smith".) Sharing a surname does not mean that you share
    the right to the same arms.

    * Conversely, many families with different names have the same coat of
    arms. A coat of arms does not uniquely identify a family.

    * A fairly small fraction of society ever used coats of arms at any time.
    Only a few Smith families actually bore arms. Arms were used throughout
    the social scale, but much moreso at the top than at the bottom. Most Americans are descended from lower-class immigrants. Statistically, then,
    the chance that an immigrant ancestor of yours bore arms is not very high.

    * No one on Earth has a complete record of all coats of arms used or
    granted throughout history.

    Therefore, if your name is Smith, and a book or a guy in a mall shows you a coat of arms with the name Smith under it, that proves nothing at all. You
    are just as likely to be related to the founder of the Virginia colony, or
    the Scottish economist, or the nephew of Senator Kennedy, or none of the
    above. The guy in the mall with the database is fudging these issues and trying to sell you a pig in a poke. His database is certainly incomplete
    and probably very inaccurate, and he doesn't care about pedigrees. He is
    just out to exploit the similarity between your name and some name in his database.

    In order to determine what your arms are, we would need much more than your name: We would need your pedigree traced back to someone who used a coat of arms. The standard of proof will vary with the needs: If you are of
    Scottish descent and wish to matriculate arms with the Scottish heraldic authority, you'd better have a well-documented pedigree, probably
    stretching over several centuries. If you only want to use arms for
    yourself in a country such as the USA where heraldry is unregulated, then
    it is just a matter of satisfying yourself. Strictly genealogical matters
    are best discussed in the soc.genealogy.* hierarchy.

    On the other hand, if you do live in a country where heraldry is
    unregulated, you are free to choose arms for yourself. You can choose any
    arms you want, whether or not your family relationships entitle you to
    those arms. You may decide to choose unique arms, created especially for
    you, or borrow arms from some existing family. Some people consider it bad taste to use existing arms if you cannot prove your descent from the family that bore them. In any case, it behooves you to acquaint yourself with heraldry, its rules and its aesthetics, so that you can design, or have designed for you, a coat that pleases you and others as well.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.


    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers this question.

    The short answer is that there are no systematic meanings assigned to the charges and tinctures in arms. There is no way to look at a set of arms
    and decypher the original designer's intended symbolism.

    At various times in the history of heraldry -- mostly between the 16th and early 19th centuries, and mostly in England -- various authors tried to
    create systems of meaning for every charge and tincture in arms. Some of
    them went so far as to claim that their system had _always_ been in use,
    and therefore that the symbolism of ancient arms could be deduced from
    their charts. It was all bunk. Some heralds probably did design arms according to one or another of these systems -- which aren't consistent, by
    the way -- but we have no way of know, in general, when this was done.

    In some instances, the heraldic designer left us notes explaining why he
    chose certain charges for someone's arms. Designer's notes are almost
    standard in modern cases, but as you look further back in history, they
    quickly become an exceptional rarity. We do have a few amusing early
    examples. One herald from the Tudor period, for example, left us the information that he provided a particular knight with arms featuring an ox because the knight had been castrated in battle.

    In the absense of specific information about a set of arms, we can only
    guess what symbolism was intended by the designer. Of course, we can make informed guesses.

    Some charges are easy: Crosses were probably always intended to express Christian devotion. Lions and eagles have always represented nobility.
    And there is a small number of charges which always have a particular
    meaning: the red hand of Ulster, the royal tressure of Scotland, etc.
    But when we look at more common charges or at tinctures, there is no
    general answer.

    To go further, you need to research the person who bore the arms and the circumstances under which he received or adopted them. This research may reveal other clues to the motives of the designer.

    For example, we might find that the arms are a variant of arms held by a related family. This practice is called "cadency" and is quite common in medieval armory. A similar practice might be called "feudal cadency"; some minor noblemen adopted arms incorporating a charge from the arms of their overlords.

    Merchants and craftsmen often included the tools of the trades in their
    arms, or an attribute of their patron saint.

    Very frequently, the family name of the original owner of the arms sounds similar to the name of one of the charges used in his arms. This practice
    is called "canting" and was extremely common in medieval armorial design. Sometimes the cant is easy to recognize: A lion for "Lyons" or a fox for "Fuchs". Sometimes it takes specialized knowledge: The fish in the arms of
    "de Lucy" is called a "lucy", an archaic name for a species of pike. The
    cant can involve more than one language: An English family "Harrison" bears
    a hedgehog, called "herisson" in Middle French.

    There are other patterns of armorial design found in one part of Europe or another, at one time or another. The more we know of the history of the
    people who originally bore the arms, we more likely we can make an
    intelligent guess as to the intent of the designer of those arms. But when
    it comes right down to it, we can very seldom know for certain.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    This MFAQ written by :
    Josh Mittleman and Francois Velde. ---------------------------------------------------------------------

    --
    François R. Velde
    velde@nospam.org (replace by "heraldica")
    Heraldica Web Site: http://www.heraldica.org/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Francois R. Velde@21:1/5 to All on Sat Feb 1 07:00:02 2020
    Summary: "What are my arms?"
    Archive-name: heraldry/mfaq
    Posting-Frequency: weekly
    Last-modified: 1997/3/25
    URL: http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/mfaq


    The Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    A common variant is:

    "Some guy in a mall told me he could look up my name in a database
    and tell me my family arms? Can I trust him?"

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers these questions. We've noticed that these questions
    are usually asked by people from the US, so the answers are intended to fit
    the US context.

    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    The short answer is this: Your family probably has no coat of arms. Most families don't. Discovering whether _your_ family has arms is a
    time-consuming problem in genealogy. Anyone who claims to be able to find
    your arms simply by looking in a book or a database is either ignorant or lying.


    To explain in more detail, we have to clear up some misconceptions:

    * There is no such thing as "the arms of Smith". Arms are associated with families or lineages. A coat was inherited by a child from his parent,
    either intact or somewhat modified. But any individual's claim to use a specific historical coat of arms rests on a family link with someone acknowledged to have used those arms.

    * Many unrelated families share the same surname. (There are 2.5 million Americans named "Smith".) Sharing a surname does not mean that you share
    the right to the same arms.

    * Conversely, many families with different names have the same coat of
    arms. A coat of arms does not uniquely identify a family.

    * A fairly small fraction of society ever used coats of arms at any time.
    Only a few Smith families actually bore arms. Arms were used throughout
    the social scale, but much moreso at the top than at the bottom. Most Americans are descended from lower-class immigrants. Statistically, then,
    the chance that an immigrant ancestor of yours bore arms is not very high.

    * No one on Earth has a complete record of all coats of arms used or
    granted throughout history.

    Therefore, if your name is Smith, and a book or a guy in a mall shows you a coat of arms with the name Smith under it, that proves nothing at all. You
    are just as likely to be related to the founder of the Virginia colony, or
    the Scottish economist, or the nephew of Senator Kennedy, or none of the
    above. The guy in the mall with the database is fudging these issues and trying to sell you a pig in a poke. His database is certainly incomplete
    and probably very inaccurate, and he doesn't care about pedigrees. He is
    just out to exploit the similarity between your name and some name in his database.

    In order to determine what your arms are, we would need much more than your name: We would need your pedigree traced back to someone who used a coat of arms. The standard of proof will vary with the needs: If you are of
    Scottish descent and wish to matriculate arms with the Scottish heraldic authority, you'd better have a well-documented pedigree, probably
    stretching over several centuries. If you only want to use arms for
    yourself in a country such as the USA where heraldry is unregulated, then
    it is just a matter of satisfying yourself. Strictly genealogical matters
    are best discussed in the soc.genealogy.* hierarchy.

    On the other hand, if you do live in a country where heraldry is
    unregulated, you are free to choose arms for yourself. You can choose any
    arms you want, whether or not your family relationships entitle you to
    those arms. You may decide to choose unique arms, created especially for
    you, or borrow arms from some existing family. Some people consider it bad taste to use existing arms if you cannot prove your descent from the family that bore them. In any case, it behooves you to acquaint yourself with heraldry, its rules and its aesthetics, so that you can design, or have designed for you, a coat that pleases you and others as well.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.


    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers this question.

    The short answer is that there are no systematic meanings assigned to the charges and tinctures in arms. There is no way to look at a set of arms
    and decypher the original designer's intended symbolism.

    At various times in the history of heraldry -- mostly between the 16th and early 19th centuries, and mostly in England -- various authors tried to
    create systems of meaning for every charge and tincture in arms. Some of
    them went so far as to claim that their system had _always_ been in use,
    and therefore that the symbolism of ancient arms could be deduced from
    their charts. It was all bunk. Some heralds probably did design arms according to one or another of these systems -- which aren't consistent, by
    the way -- but we have no way of know, in general, when this was done.

    In some instances, the heraldic designer left us notes explaining why he
    chose certain charges for someone's arms. Designer's notes are almost
    standard in modern cases, but as you look further back in history, they
    quickly become an exceptional rarity. We do have a few amusing early
    examples. One herald from the Tudor period, for example, left us the information that he provided a particular knight with arms featuring an ox because the knight had been castrated in battle.

    In the absense of specific information about a set of arms, we can only
    guess what symbolism was intended by the designer. Of course, we can make informed guesses.

    Some charges are easy: Crosses were probably always intended to express Christian devotion. Lions and eagles have always represented nobility.
    And there is a small number of charges which always have a particular
    meaning: the red hand of Ulster, the royal tressure of Scotland, etc.
    But when we look at more common charges or at tinctures, there is no
    general answer.

    To go further, you need to research the person who bore the arms and the circumstances under which he received or adopted them. This research may reveal other clues to the motives of the designer.

    For example, we might find that the arms are a variant of arms held by a related family. This practice is called "cadency" and is quite common in medieval armory. A similar practice might be called "feudal cadency"; some minor noblemen adopted arms incorporating a charge from the arms of their overlords.

    Merchants and craftsmen often included the tools of the trades in their
    arms, or an attribute of their patron saint.

    Very frequently, the family name of the original owner of the arms sounds similar to the name of one of the charges used in his arms. This practice
    is called "canting" and was extremely common in medieval armorial design. Sometimes the cant is easy to recognize: A lion for "Lyons" or a fox for "Fuchs". Sometimes it takes specialized knowledge: The fish in the arms of
    "de Lucy" is called a "lucy", an archaic name for a species of pike. The
    cant can involve more than one language: An English family "Harrison" bears
    a hedgehog, called "herisson" in Middle French.

    There are other patterns of armorial design found in one part of Europe or another, at one time or another. The more we know of the history of the
    people who originally bore the arms, we more likely we can make an
    intelligent guess as to the intent of the designer of those arms. But when
    it comes right down to it, we can very seldom know for certain.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    This MFAQ written by :
    Josh Mittleman and Francois Velde. ---------------------------------------------------------------------

    --
    François R. Velde
    velde@nospam.org (replace by "heraldica")
    Heraldica Web Site: http://www.heraldica.org/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Francois R. Velde@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 1 07:00:03 2020
    Summary: "What are my arms?"
    Archive-name: heraldry/mfaq
    Posting-Frequency: weekly
    Last-modified: 1997/3/25
    URL: http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/mfaq


    The Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    A common variant is:

    "Some guy in a mall told me he could look up my name in a database
    and tell me my family arms? Can I trust him?"

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers these questions. We've noticed that these questions
    are usually asked by people from the US, so the answers are intended to fit
    the US context.

    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    The short answer is this: Your family probably has no coat of arms. Most families don't. Discovering whether _your_ family has arms is a
    time-consuming problem in genealogy. Anyone who claims to be able to find
    your arms simply by looking in a book or a database is either ignorant or lying.


    To explain in more detail, we have to clear up some misconceptions:

    * There is no such thing as "the arms of Smith". Arms are associated with families or lineages. A coat was inherited by a child from his parent,
    either intact or somewhat modified. But any individual's claim to use a specific historical coat of arms rests on a family link with someone acknowledged to have used those arms.

    * Many unrelated families share the same surname. (There are 2.5 million Americans named "Smith".) Sharing a surname does not mean that you share
    the right to the same arms.

    * Conversely, many families with different names have the same coat of
    arms. A coat of arms does not uniquely identify a family.

    * A fairly small fraction of society ever used coats of arms at any time.
    Only a few Smith families actually bore arms. Arms were used throughout
    the social scale, but much moreso at the top than at the bottom. Most Americans are descended from lower-class immigrants. Statistically, then,
    the chance that an immigrant ancestor of yours bore arms is not very high.

    * No one on Earth has a complete record of all coats of arms used or
    granted throughout history.

    Therefore, if your name is Smith, and a book or a guy in a mall shows you a coat of arms with the name Smith under it, that proves nothing at all. You
    are just as likely to be related to the founder of the Virginia colony, or
    the Scottish economist, or the nephew of Senator Kennedy, or none of the
    above. The guy in the mall with the database is fudging these issues and trying to sell you a pig in a poke. His database is certainly incomplete
    and probably very inaccurate, and he doesn't care about pedigrees. He is
    just out to exploit the similarity between your name and some name in his database.

    In order to determine what your arms are, we would need much more than your name: We would need your pedigree traced back to someone who used a coat of arms. The standard of proof will vary with the needs: If you are of
    Scottish descent and wish to matriculate arms with the Scottish heraldic authority, you'd better have a well-documented pedigree, probably
    stretching over several centuries. If you only want to use arms for
    yourself in a country such as the USA where heraldry is unregulated, then
    it is just a matter of satisfying yourself. Strictly genealogical matters
    are best discussed in the soc.genealogy.* hierarchy.

    On the other hand, if you do live in a country where heraldry is
    unregulated, you are free to choose arms for yourself. You can choose any
    arms you want, whether or not your family relationships entitle you to
    those arms. You may decide to choose unique arms, created especially for
    you, or borrow arms from some existing family. Some people consider it bad taste to use existing arms if you cannot prove your descent from the family that bore them. In any case, it behooves you to acquaint yourself with heraldry, its rules and its aesthetics, so that you can design, or have designed for you, a coat that pleases you and others as well.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.


    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers this question.

    The short answer is that there are no systematic meanings assigned to the charges and tinctures in arms. There is no way to look at a set of arms
    and decypher the original designer's intended symbolism.

    At various times in the history of heraldry -- mostly between the 16th and early 19th centuries, and mostly in England -- various authors tried to
    create systems of meaning for every charge and tincture in arms. Some of
    them went so far as to claim that their system had _always_ been in use,
    and therefore that the symbolism of ancient arms could be deduced from
    their charts. It was all bunk. Some heralds probably did design arms according to one or another of these systems -- which aren't consistent, by
    the way -- but we have no way of know, in general, when this was done.

    In some instances, the heraldic designer left us notes explaining why he
    chose certain charges for someone's arms. Designer's notes are almost
    standard in modern cases, but as you look further back in history, they
    quickly become an exceptional rarity. We do have a few amusing early
    examples. One herald from the Tudor period, for example, left us the information that he provided a particular knight with arms featuring an ox because the knight had been castrated in battle.

    In the absense of specific information about a set of arms, we can only
    guess what symbolism was intended by the designer. Of course, we can make informed guesses.

    Some charges are easy: Crosses were probably always intended to express Christian devotion. Lions and eagles have always represented nobility.
    And there is a small number of charges which always have a particular
    meaning: the red hand of Ulster, the royal tressure of Scotland, etc.
    But when we look at more common charges or at tinctures, there is no
    general answer.

    To go further, you need to research the person who bore the arms and the circumstances under which he received or adopted them. This research may reveal other clues to the motives of the designer.

    For example, we might find that the arms are a variant of arms held by a related family. This practice is called "cadency" and is quite common in medieval armory. A similar practice might be called "feudal cadency"; some minor noblemen adopted arms incorporating a charge from the arms of their overlords.

    Merchants and craftsmen often included the tools of the trades in their
    arms, or an attribute of their patron saint.

    Very frequently, the family name of the original owner of the arms sounds similar to the name of one of the charges used in his arms. This practice
    is called "canting" and was extremely common in medieval armorial design. Sometimes the cant is easy to recognize: A lion for "Lyons" or a fox for "Fuchs". Sometimes it takes specialized knowledge: The fish in the arms of
    "de Lucy" is called a "lucy", an archaic name for a species of pike. The
    cant can involve more than one language: An English family "Harrison" bears
    a hedgehog, called "herisson" in Middle French.

    There are other patterns of armorial design found in one part of Europe or another, at one time or another. The more we know of the history of the
    people who originally bore the arms, we more likely we can make an
    intelligent guess as to the intent of the designer of those arms. But when
    it comes right down to it, we can very seldom know for certain.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    This MFAQ written by :
    Josh Mittleman and Francois Velde. ---------------------------------------------------------------------

    --
    François R. Velde
    velde@nospam.org (replace by "heraldica")
    Heraldica Web Site: http://www.heraldica.org/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Francois R. Velde@21:1/5 to All on Wed Apr 1 06:00:05 2020
    Summary: "What are my arms?"
    Archive-name: heraldry/mfaq
    Posting-Frequency: weekly
    Last-modified: 1997/3/25
    URL: http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/mfaq


    The Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    A common variant is:

    "Some guy in a mall told me he could look up my name in a database
    and tell me my family arms? Can I trust him?"

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers these questions. We've noticed that these questions
    are usually asked by people from the US, so the answers are intended to fit
    the US context.

    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    The short answer is this: Your family probably has no coat of arms. Most families don't. Discovering whether _your_ family has arms is a
    time-consuming problem in genealogy. Anyone who claims to be able to find
    your arms simply by looking in a book or a database is either ignorant or lying.


    To explain in more detail, we have to clear up some misconceptions:

    * There is no such thing as "the arms of Smith". Arms are associated with families or lineages. A coat was inherited by a child from his parent,
    either intact or somewhat modified. But any individual's claim to use a specific historical coat of arms rests on a family link with someone acknowledged to have used those arms.

    * Many unrelated families share the same surname. (There are 2.5 million Americans named "Smith".) Sharing a surname does not mean that you share
    the right to the same arms.

    * Conversely, many families with different names have the same coat of
    arms. A coat of arms does not uniquely identify a family.

    * A fairly small fraction of society ever used coats of arms at any time.
    Only a few Smith families actually bore arms. Arms were used throughout
    the social scale, but much moreso at the top than at the bottom. Most Americans are descended from lower-class immigrants. Statistically, then,
    the chance that an immigrant ancestor of yours bore arms is not very high.

    * No one on Earth has a complete record of all coats of arms used or
    granted throughout history.

    Therefore, if your name is Smith, and a book or a guy in a mall shows you a coat of arms with the name Smith under it, that proves nothing at all. You
    are just as likely to be related to the founder of the Virginia colony, or
    the Scottish economist, or the nephew of Senator Kennedy, or none of the
    above. The guy in the mall with the database is fudging these issues and trying to sell you a pig in a poke. His database is certainly incomplete
    and probably very inaccurate, and he doesn't care about pedigrees. He is
    just out to exploit the similarity between your name and some name in his database.

    In order to determine what your arms are, we would need much more than your name: We would need your pedigree traced back to someone who used a coat of arms. The standard of proof will vary with the needs: If you are of
    Scottish descent and wish to matriculate arms with the Scottish heraldic authority, you'd better have a well-documented pedigree, probably
    stretching over several centuries. If you only want to use arms for
    yourself in a country such as the USA where heraldry is unregulated, then
    it is just a matter of satisfying yourself. Strictly genealogical matters
    are best discussed in the soc.genealogy.* hierarchy.

    On the other hand, if you do live in a country where heraldry is
    unregulated, you are free to choose arms for yourself. You can choose any
    arms you want, whether or not your family relationships entitle you to
    those arms. You may decide to choose unique arms, created especially for
    you, or borrow arms from some existing family. Some people consider it bad taste to use existing arms if you cannot prove your descent from the family that bore them. In any case, it behooves you to acquaint yourself with heraldry, its rules and its aesthetics, so that you can design, or have designed for you, a coat that pleases you and others as well.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.


    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers this question.

    The short answer is that there are no systematic meanings assigned to the charges and tinctures in arms. There is no way to look at a set of arms
    and decypher the original designer's intended symbolism.

    At various times in the history of heraldry -- mostly between the 16th and early 19th centuries, and mostly in England -- various authors tried to
    create systems of meaning for every charge and tincture in arms. Some of
    them went so far as to claim that their system had _always_ been in use,
    and therefore that the symbolism of ancient arms could be deduced from
    their charts. It was all bunk. Some heralds probably did design arms according to one or another of these systems -- which aren't consistent, by
    the way -- but we have no way of know, in general, when this was done.

    In some instances, the heraldic designer left us notes explaining why he
    chose certain charges for someone's arms. Designer's notes are almost
    standard in modern cases, but as you look further back in history, they
    quickly become an exceptional rarity. We do have a few amusing early
    examples. One herald from the Tudor period, for example, left us the information that he provided a particular knight with arms featuring an ox because the knight had been castrated in battle.

    In the absense of specific information about a set of arms, we can only
    guess what symbolism was intended by the designer. Of course, we can make informed guesses.

    Some charges are easy: Crosses were probably always intended to express Christian devotion. Lions and eagles have always represented nobility.
    And there is a small number of charges which always have a particular
    meaning: the red hand of Ulster, the royal tressure of Scotland, etc.
    But when we look at more common charges or at tinctures, there is no
    general answer.

    To go further, you need to research the person who bore the arms and the circumstances under which he received or adopted them. This research may reveal other clues to the motives of the designer.

    For example, we might find that the arms are a variant of arms held by a related family. This practice is called "cadency" and is quite common in medieval armory. A similar practice might be called "feudal cadency"; some minor noblemen adopted arms incorporating a charge from the arms of their overlords.

    Merchants and craftsmen often included the tools of the trades in their
    arms, or an attribute of their patron saint.

    Very frequently, the family name of the original owner of the arms sounds similar to the name of one of the charges used in his arms. This practice
    is called "canting" and was extremely common in medieval armorial design. Sometimes the cant is easy to recognize: A lion for "Lyons" or a fox for "Fuchs". Sometimes it takes specialized knowledge: The fish in the arms of
    "de Lucy" is called a "lucy", an archaic name for a species of pike. The
    cant can involve more than one language: An English family "Harrison" bears
    a hedgehog, called "herisson" in Middle French.

    There are other patterns of armorial design found in one part of Europe or another, at one time or another. The more we know of the history of the
    people who originally bore the arms, we more likely we can make an
    intelligent guess as to the intent of the designer of those arms. But when
    it comes right down to it, we can very seldom know for certain.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    This MFAQ written by :
    Josh Mittleman and Francois Velde. ---------------------------------------------------------------------

    --
    François R. Velde
    velde@nospam.org (replace by "heraldica")
    Heraldica Web Site: http://www.heraldica.org/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Francois R. Velde@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 1 06:00:05 2020
    Summary: "What are my arms?"
    Archive-name: heraldry/mfaq
    Posting-Frequency: weekly
    Last-modified: 1997/3/25
    URL: http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/mfaq


    The Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    A common variant is:

    "Some guy in a mall told me he could look up my name in a database
    and tell me my family arms? Can I trust him?"

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers these questions. We've noticed that these questions
    are usually asked by people from the US, so the answers are intended to fit
    the US context.

    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    The short answer is this: Your family probably has no coat of arms. Most families don't. Discovering whether _your_ family has arms is a
    time-consuming problem in genealogy. Anyone who claims to be able to find
    your arms simply by looking in a book or a database is either ignorant or lying.


    To explain in more detail, we have to clear up some misconceptions:

    * There is no such thing as "the arms of Smith". Arms are associated with families or lineages. A coat was inherited by a child from his parent,
    either intact or somewhat modified. But any individual's claim to use a specific historical coat of arms rests on a family link with someone acknowledged to have used those arms.

    * Many unrelated families share the same surname. (There are 2.5 million Americans named "Smith".) Sharing a surname does not mean that you share
    the right to the same arms.

    * Conversely, many families with different names have the same coat of
    arms. A coat of arms does not uniquely identify a family.

    * A fairly small fraction of society ever used coats of arms at any time.
    Only a few Smith families actually bore arms. Arms were used throughout
    the social scale, but much moreso at the top than at the bottom. Most Americans are descended from lower-class immigrants. Statistically, then,
    the chance that an immigrant ancestor of yours bore arms is not very high.

    * No one on Earth has a complete record of all coats of arms used or
    granted throughout history.

    Therefore, if your name is Smith, and a book or a guy in a mall shows you a coat of arms with the name Smith under it, that proves nothing at all. You
    are just as likely to be related to the founder of the Virginia colony, or
    the Scottish economist, or the nephew of Senator Kennedy, or none of the
    above. The guy in the mall with the database is fudging these issues and trying to sell you a pig in a poke. His database is certainly incomplete
    and probably very inaccurate, and he doesn't care about pedigrees. He is
    just out to exploit the similarity between your name and some name in his database.

    In order to determine what your arms are, we would need much more than your name: We would need your pedigree traced back to someone who used a coat of arms. The standard of proof will vary with the needs: If you are of
    Scottish descent and wish to matriculate arms with the Scottish heraldic authority, you'd better have a well-documented pedigree, probably
    stretching over several centuries. If you only want to use arms for
    yourself in a country such as the USA where heraldry is unregulated, then
    it is just a matter of satisfying yourself. Strictly genealogical matters
    are best discussed in the soc.genealogy.* hierarchy.

    On the other hand, if you do live in a country where heraldry is
    unregulated, you are free to choose arms for yourself. You can choose any
    arms you want, whether or not your family relationships entitle you to
    those arms. You may decide to choose unique arms, created especially for
    you, or borrow arms from some existing family. Some people consider it bad taste to use existing arms if you cannot prove your descent from the family that bore them. In any case, it behooves you to acquaint yourself with heraldry, its rules and its aesthetics, so that you can design, or have designed for you, a coat that pleases you and others as well.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.


    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers this question.

    The short answer is that there are no systematic meanings assigned to the charges and tinctures in arms. There is no way to look at a set of arms
    and decypher the original designer's intended symbolism.

    At various times in the history of heraldry -- mostly between the 16th and early 19th centuries, and mostly in England -- various authors tried to
    create systems of meaning for every charge and tincture in arms. Some of
    them went so far as to claim that their system had _always_ been in use,
    and therefore that the symbolism of ancient arms could be deduced from
    their charts. It was all bunk. Some heralds probably did design arms according to one or another of these systems -- which aren't consistent, by
    the way -- but we have no way of know, in general, when this was done.

    In some instances, the heraldic designer left us notes explaining why he
    chose certain charges for someone's arms. Designer's notes are almost
    standard in modern cases, but as you look further back in history, they
    quickly become an exceptional rarity. We do have a few amusing early
    examples. One herald from the Tudor period, for example, left us the information that he provided a particular knight with arms featuring an ox because the knight had been castrated in battle.

    In the absense of specific information about a set of arms, we can only
    guess what symbolism was intended by the designer. Of course, we can make informed guesses.

    Some charges are easy: Crosses were probably always intended to express Christian devotion. Lions and eagles have always represented nobility.
    And there is a small number of charges which always have a particular
    meaning: the red hand of Ulster, the royal tressure of Scotland, etc.
    But when we look at more common charges or at tinctures, there is no
    general answer.

    To go further, you need to research the person who bore the arms and the circumstances under which he received or adopted them. This research may reveal other clues to the motives of the designer.

    For example, we might find that the arms are a variant of arms held by a related family. This practice is called "cadency" and is quite common in medieval armory. A similar practice might be called "feudal cadency"; some minor noblemen adopted arms incorporating a charge from the arms of their overlords.

    Merchants and craftsmen often included the tools of the trades in their
    arms, or an attribute of their patron saint.

    Very frequently, the family name of the original owner of the arms sounds similar to the name of one of the charges used in his arms. This practice
    is called "canting" and was extremely common in medieval armorial design. Sometimes the cant is easy to recognize: A lion for "Lyons" or a fox for "Fuchs". Sometimes it takes specialized knowledge: The fish in the arms of
    "de Lucy" is called a "lucy", an archaic name for a species of pike. The
    cant can involve more than one language: An English family "Harrison" bears
    a hedgehog, called "herisson" in Middle French.

    There are other patterns of armorial design found in one part of Europe or another, at one time or another. The more we know of the history of the
    people who originally bore the arms, we more likely we can make an
    intelligent guess as to the intent of the designer of those arms. But when
    it comes right down to it, we can very seldom know for certain.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    This MFAQ written by :
    Josh Mittleman and Francois Velde. ---------------------------------------------------------------------

    --
    François R. Velde
    velde@nospam.org (replace by "heraldica")
    Heraldica Web Site: http://www.heraldica.org/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Francois R. Velde@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jun 1 06:00:02 2020
    Summary: "What are my arms?"
    Archive-name: heraldry/mfaq
    Posting-Frequency: weekly
    Last-modified: 1997/3/25
    URL: http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/mfaq


    The Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    A common variant is:

    "Some guy in a mall told me he could look up my name in a database
    and tell me my family arms? Can I trust him?"

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers these questions. We've noticed that these questions
    are usually asked by people from the US, so the answers are intended to fit
    the US context.

    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    The short answer is this: Your family probably has no coat of arms. Most families don't. Discovering whether _your_ family has arms is a
    time-consuming problem in genealogy. Anyone who claims to be able to find
    your arms simply by looking in a book or a database is either ignorant or lying.


    To explain in more detail, we have to clear up some misconceptions:

    * There is no such thing as "the arms of Smith". Arms are associated with families or lineages. A coat was inherited by a child from his parent,
    either intact or somewhat modified. But any individual's claim to use a specific historical coat of arms rests on a family link with someone acknowledged to have used those arms.

    * Many unrelated families share the same surname. (There are 2.5 million Americans named "Smith".) Sharing a surname does not mean that you share
    the right to the same arms.

    * Conversely, many families with different names have the same coat of
    arms. A coat of arms does not uniquely identify a family.

    * A fairly small fraction of society ever used coats of arms at any time.
    Only a few Smith families actually bore arms. Arms were used throughout
    the social scale, but much moreso at the top than at the bottom. Most Americans are descended from lower-class immigrants. Statistically, then,
    the chance that an immigrant ancestor of yours bore arms is not very high.

    * No one on Earth has a complete record of all coats of arms used or
    granted throughout history.

    Therefore, if your name is Smith, and a book or a guy in a mall shows you a coat of arms with the name Smith under it, that proves nothing at all. You
    are just as likely to be related to the founder of the Virginia colony, or
    the Scottish economist, or the nephew of Senator Kennedy, or none of the
    above. The guy in the mall with the database is fudging these issues and trying to sell you a pig in a poke. His database is certainly incomplete
    and probably very inaccurate, and he doesn't care about pedigrees. He is
    just out to exploit the similarity between your name and some name in his database.

    In order to determine what your arms are, we would need much more than your name: We would need your pedigree traced back to someone who used a coat of arms. The standard of proof will vary with the needs: If you are of
    Scottish descent and wish to matriculate arms with the Scottish heraldic authority, you'd better have a well-documented pedigree, probably
    stretching over several centuries. If you only want to use arms for
    yourself in a country such as the USA where heraldry is unregulated, then
    it is just a matter of satisfying yourself. Strictly genealogical matters
    are best discussed in the soc.genealogy.* hierarchy.

    On the other hand, if you do live in a country where heraldry is
    unregulated, you are free to choose arms for yourself. You can choose any
    arms you want, whether or not your family relationships entitle you to
    those arms. You may decide to choose unique arms, created especially for
    you, or borrow arms from some existing family. Some people consider it bad taste to use existing arms if you cannot prove your descent from the family that bore them. In any case, it behooves you to acquaint yourself with heraldry, its rules and its aesthetics, so that you can design, or have designed for you, a coat that pleases you and others as well.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.


    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers this question.

    The short answer is that there are no systematic meanings assigned to the charges and tinctures in arms. There is no way to look at a set of arms
    and decypher the original designer's intended symbolism.

    At various times in the history of heraldry -- mostly between the 16th and early 19th centuries, and mostly in England -- various authors tried to
    create systems of meaning for every charge and tincture in arms. Some of
    them went so far as to claim that their system had _always_ been in use,
    and therefore that the symbolism of ancient arms could be deduced from
    their charts. It was all bunk. Some heralds probably did design arms according to one or another of these systems -- which aren't consistent, by
    the way -- but we have no way of know, in general, when this was done.

    In some instances, the heraldic designer left us notes explaining why he
    chose certain charges for someone's arms. Designer's notes are almost
    standard in modern cases, but as you look further back in history, they
    quickly become an exceptional rarity. We do have a few amusing early
    examples. One herald from the Tudor period, for example, left us the information that he provided a particular knight with arms featuring an ox because the knight had been castrated in battle.

    In the absense of specific information about a set of arms, we can only
    guess what symbolism was intended by the designer. Of course, we can make informed guesses.

    Some charges are easy: Crosses were probably always intended to express Christian devotion. Lions and eagles have always represented nobility.
    And there is a small number of charges which always have a particular
    meaning: the red hand of Ulster, the royal tressure of Scotland, etc.
    But when we look at more common charges or at tinctures, there is no
    general answer.

    To go further, you need to research the person who bore the arms and the circumstances under which he received or adopted them. This research may reveal other clues to the motives of the designer.

    For example, we might find that the arms are a variant of arms held by a related family. This practice is called "cadency" and is quite common in medieval armory. A similar practice might be called "feudal cadency"; some minor noblemen adopted arms incorporating a charge from the arms of their overlords.

    Merchants and craftsmen often included the tools of the trades in their
    arms, or an attribute of their patron saint.

    Very frequently, the family name of the original owner of the arms sounds similar to the name of one of the charges used in his arms. This practice
    is called "canting" and was extremely common in medieval armorial design. Sometimes the cant is easy to recognize: A lion for "Lyons" or a fox for "Fuchs". Sometimes it takes specialized knowledge: The fish in the arms of
    "de Lucy" is called a "lucy", an archaic name for a species of pike. The
    cant can involve more than one language: An English family "Harrison" bears
    a hedgehog, called "herisson" in Middle French.

    There are other patterns of armorial design found in one part of Europe or another, at one time or another. The more we know of the history of the
    people who originally bore the arms, we more likely we can make an
    intelligent guess as to the intent of the designer of those arms. But when
    it comes right down to it, we can very seldom know for certain.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    This MFAQ written by :
    Josh Mittleman and Francois Velde. ---------------------------------------------------------------------

    --
    François R. Velde
    velde@nospam.org (replace by "heraldica")
    Heraldica Web Site: http://www.heraldica.org/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Francois R. Velde@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 1 06:00:05 2020
    Summary: "What are my arms?"
    Archive-name: heraldry/mfaq
    Posting-Frequency: weekly
    Last-modified: 1997/3/25
    URL: http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/mfaq


    The Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    A common variant is:

    "Some guy in a mall told me he could look up my name in a database
    and tell me my family arms? Can I trust him?"

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers these questions. We've noticed that these questions
    are usually asked by people from the US, so the answers are intended to fit
    the US context.

    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    The short answer is this: Your family probably has no coat of arms. Most families don't. Discovering whether _your_ family has arms is a
    time-consuming problem in genealogy. Anyone who claims to be able to find
    your arms simply by looking in a book or a database is either ignorant or lying.


    To explain in more detail, we have to clear up some misconceptions:

    * There is no such thing as "the arms of Smith". Arms are associated with families or lineages. A coat was inherited by a child from his parent,
    either intact or somewhat modified. But any individual's claim to use a specific historical coat of arms rests on a family link with someone acknowledged to have used those arms.

    * Many unrelated families share the same surname. (There are 2.5 million Americans named "Smith".) Sharing a surname does not mean that you share
    the right to the same arms.

    * Conversely, many families with different names have the same coat of
    arms. A coat of arms does not uniquely identify a family.

    * A fairly small fraction of society ever used coats of arms at any time.
    Only a few Smith families actually bore arms. Arms were used throughout
    the social scale, but much moreso at the top than at the bottom. Most Americans are descended from lower-class immigrants. Statistically, then,
    the chance that an immigrant ancestor of yours bore arms is not very high.

    * No one on Earth has a complete record of all coats of arms used or
    granted throughout history.

    Therefore, if your name is Smith, and a book or a guy in a mall shows you a coat of arms with the name Smith under it, that proves nothing at all. You
    are just as likely to be related to the founder of the Virginia colony, or
    the Scottish economist, or the nephew of Senator Kennedy, or none of the
    above. The guy in the mall with the database is fudging these issues and trying to sell you a pig in a poke. His database is certainly incomplete
    and probably very inaccurate, and he doesn't care about pedigrees. He is
    just out to exploit the similarity between your name and some name in his database.

    In order to determine what your arms are, we would need much more than your name: We would need your pedigree traced back to someone who used a coat of arms. The standard of proof will vary with the needs: If you are of
    Scottish descent and wish to matriculate arms with the Scottish heraldic authority, you'd better have a well-documented pedigree, probably
    stretching over several centuries. If you only want to use arms for
    yourself in a country such as the USA where heraldry is unregulated, then
    it is just a matter of satisfying yourself. Strictly genealogical matters
    are best discussed in the soc.genealogy.* hierarchy.

    On the other hand, if you do live in a country where heraldry is
    unregulated, you are free to choose arms for yourself. You can choose any
    arms you want, whether or not your family relationships entitle you to
    those arms. You may decide to choose unique arms, created especially for
    you, or borrow arms from some existing family. Some people consider it bad taste to use existing arms if you cannot prove your descent from the family that bore them. In any case, it behooves you to acquaint yourself with heraldry, its rules and its aesthetics, so that you can design, or have designed for you, a coat that pleases you and others as well.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.


    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers this question.

    The short answer is that there are no systematic meanings assigned to the charges and tinctures in arms. There is no way to look at a set of arms
    and decypher the original designer's intended symbolism.

    At various times in the history of heraldry -- mostly between the 16th and early 19th centuries, and mostly in England -- various authors tried to
    create systems of meaning for every charge and tincture in arms. Some of
    them went so far as to claim that their system had _always_ been in use,
    and therefore that the symbolism of ancient arms could be deduced from
    their charts. It was all bunk. Some heralds probably did design arms according to one or another of these systems -- which aren't consistent, by
    the way -- but we have no way of know, in general, when this was done.

    In some instances, the heraldic designer left us notes explaining why he
    chose certain charges for someone's arms. Designer's notes are almost
    standard in modern cases, but as you look further back in history, they
    quickly become an exceptional rarity. We do have a few amusing early
    examples. One herald from the Tudor period, for example, left us the information that he provided a particular knight with arms featuring an ox because the knight had been castrated in battle.

    In the absense of specific information about a set of arms, we can only
    guess what symbolism was intended by the designer. Of course, we can make informed guesses.

    Some charges are easy: Crosses were probably always intended to express Christian devotion. Lions and eagles have always represented nobility.
    And there is a small number of charges which always have a particular
    meaning: the red hand of Ulster, the royal tressure of Scotland, etc.
    But when we look at more common charges or at tinctures, there is no
    general answer.

    To go further, you need to research the person who bore the arms and the circumstances under which he received or adopted them. This research may reveal other clues to the motives of the designer.

    For example, we might find that the arms are a variant of arms held by a related family. This practice is called "cadency" and is quite common in medieval armory. A similar practice might be called "feudal cadency"; some minor noblemen adopted arms incorporating a charge from the arms of their overlords.

    Merchants and craftsmen often included the tools of the trades in their
    arms, or an attribute of their patron saint.

    Very frequently, the family name of the original owner of the arms sounds similar to the name of one of the charges used in his arms. This practice
    is called "canting" and was extremely common in medieval armorial design. Sometimes the cant is easy to recognize: A lion for "Lyons" or a fox for "Fuchs". Sometimes it takes specialized knowledge: The fish in the arms of
    "de Lucy" is called a "lucy", an archaic name for a species of pike. The
    cant can involve more than one language: An English family "Harrison" bears
    a hedgehog, called "herisson" in Middle French.

    There are other patterns of armorial design found in one part of Europe or another, at one time or another. The more we know of the history of the
    people who originally bore the arms, we more likely we can make an
    intelligent guess as to the intent of the designer of those arms. But when
    it comes right down to it, we can very seldom know for certain.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    This MFAQ written by :
    Josh Mittleman and Francois Velde. ---------------------------------------------------------------------

    --
    François R. Velde
    velde@nospam.org (replace by "heraldica")
    Heraldica Web Site: http://www.heraldica.org/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Francois R. Velde@21:1/5 to All on Sat Aug 1 06:00:02 2020
    Summary: "What are my arms?"
    Archive-name: heraldry/mfaq
    Posting-Frequency: weekly
    Last-modified: 1997/3/25
    URL: http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/mfaq


    The Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    A common variant is:

    "Some guy in a mall told me he could look up my name in a database
    and tell me my family arms? Can I trust him?"

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers these questions. We've noticed that these questions
    are usually asked by people from the US, so the answers are intended to fit
    the US context.

    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    The short answer is this: Your family probably has no coat of arms. Most families don't. Discovering whether _your_ family has arms is a
    time-consuming problem in genealogy. Anyone who claims to be able to find
    your arms simply by looking in a book or a database is either ignorant or lying.


    To explain in more detail, we have to clear up some misconceptions:

    * There is no such thing as "the arms of Smith". Arms are associated with families or lineages. A coat was inherited by a child from his parent,
    either intact or somewhat modified. But any individual's claim to use a specific historical coat of arms rests on a family link with someone acknowledged to have used those arms.

    * Many unrelated families share the same surname. (There are 2.5 million Americans named "Smith".) Sharing a surname does not mean that you share
    the right to the same arms.

    * Conversely, many families with different names have the same coat of
    arms. A coat of arms does not uniquely identify a family.

    * A fairly small fraction of society ever used coats of arms at any time.
    Only a few Smith families actually bore arms. Arms were used throughout
    the social scale, but much moreso at the top than at the bottom. Most Americans are descended from lower-class immigrants. Statistically, then,
    the chance that an immigrant ancestor of yours bore arms is not very high.

    * No one on Earth has a complete record of all coats of arms used or
    granted throughout history.

    Therefore, if your name is Smith, and a book or a guy in a mall shows you a coat of arms with the name Smith under it, that proves nothing at all. You
    are just as likely to be related to the founder of the Virginia colony, or
    the Scottish economist, or the nephew of Senator Kennedy, or none of the
    above. The guy in the mall with the database is fudging these issues and trying to sell you a pig in a poke. His database is certainly incomplete
    and probably very inaccurate, and he doesn't care about pedigrees. He is
    just out to exploit the similarity between your name and some name in his database.

    In order to determine what your arms are, we would need much more than your name: We would need your pedigree traced back to someone who used a coat of arms. The standard of proof will vary with the needs: If you are of
    Scottish descent and wish to matriculate arms with the Scottish heraldic authority, you'd better have a well-documented pedigree, probably
    stretching over several centuries. If you only want to use arms for
    yourself in a country such as the USA where heraldry is unregulated, then
    it is just a matter of satisfying yourself. Strictly genealogical matters
    are best discussed in the soc.genealogy.* hierarchy.

    On the other hand, if you do live in a country where heraldry is
    unregulated, you are free to choose arms for yourself. You can choose any
    arms you want, whether or not your family relationships entitle you to
    those arms. You may decide to choose unique arms, created especially for
    you, or borrow arms from some existing family. Some people consider it bad taste to use existing arms if you cannot prove your descent from the family that bore them. In any case, it behooves you to acquaint yourself with heraldry, its rules and its aesthetics, so that you can design, or have designed for you, a coat that pleases you and others as well.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.


    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers this question.

    The short answer is that there are no systematic meanings assigned to the charges and tinctures in arms. There is no way to look at a set of arms
    and decypher the original designer's intended symbolism.

    At various times in the history of heraldry -- mostly between the 16th and early 19th centuries, and mostly in England -- various authors tried to
    create systems of meaning for every charge and tincture in arms. Some of
    them went so far as to claim that their system had _always_ been in use,
    and therefore that the symbolism of ancient arms could be deduced from
    their charts. It was all bunk. Some heralds probably did design arms according to one or another of these systems -- which aren't consistent, by
    the way -- but we have no way of know, in general, when this was done.

    In some instances, the heraldic designer left us notes explaining why he
    chose certain charges for someone's arms. Designer's notes are almost
    standard in modern cases, but as you look further back in history, they
    quickly become an exceptional rarity. We do have a few amusing early
    examples. One herald from the Tudor period, for example, left us the information that he provided a particular knight with arms featuring an ox because the knight had been castrated in battle.

    In the absense of specific information about a set of arms, we can only
    guess what symbolism was intended by the designer. Of course, we can make informed guesses.

    Some charges are easy: Crosses were probably always intended to express Christian devotion. Lions and eagles have always represented nobility.
    And there is a small number of charges which always have a particular
    meaning: the red hand of Ulster, the royal tressure of Scotland, etc.
    But when we look at more common charges or at tinctures, there is no
    general answer.

    To go further, you need to research the person who bore the arms and the circumstances under which he received or adopted them. This research may reveal other clues to the motives of the designer.

    For example, we might find that the arms are a variant of arms held by a related family. This practice is called "cadency" and is quite common in medieval armory. A similar practice might be called "feudal cadency"; some minor noblemen adopted arms incorporating a charge from the arms of their overlords.

    Merchants and craftsmen often included the tools of the trades in their
    arms, or an attribute of their patron saint.

    Very frequently, the family name of the original owner of the arms sounds similar to the name of one of the charges used in his arms. This practice
    is called "canting" and was extremely common in medieval armorial design. Sometimes the cant is easy to recognize: A lion for "Lyons" or a fox for "Fuchs". Sometimes it takes specialized knowledge: The fish in the arms of
    "de Lucy" is called a "lucy", an archaic name for a species of pike. The
    cant can involve more than one language: An English family "Harrison" bears
    a hedgehog, called "herisson" in Middle French.

    There are other patterns of armorial design found in one part of Europe or another, at one time or another. The more we know of the history of the
    people who originally bore the arms, we more likely we can make an
    intelligent guess as to the intent of the designer of those arms. But when
    it comes right down to it, we can very seldom know for certain.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    This MFAQ written by :
    Josh Mittleman and Francois Velde. ---------------------------------------------------------------------

    --
    François R. Velde
    velde@nospam.org (replace by "heraldica")
    Heraldica Web Site: http://www.heraldica.org/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Francois R. Velde@21:1/5 to All on Tue Sep 1 06:00:03 2020
    Summary: "What are my arms?"
    Archive-name: heraldry/mfaq
    Posting-Frequency: weekly
    Last-modified: 1997/3/25
    URL: http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/mfaq


    The Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    A common variant is:

    "Some guy in a mall told me he could look up my name in a database
    and tell me my family arms? Can I trust him?"

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers these questions. We've noticed that these questions
    are usually asked by people from the US, so the answers are intended to fit
    the US context.

    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    The short answer is this: Your family probably has no coat of arms. Most families don't. Discovering whether _your_ family has arms is a
    time-consuming problem in genealogy. Anyone who claims to be able to find
    your arms simply by looking in a book or a database is either ignorant or lying.


    To explain in more detail, we have to clear up some misconceptions:

    * There is no such thing as "the arms of Smith". Arms are associated with families or lineages. A coat was inherited by a child from his parent,
    either intact or somewhat modified. But any individual's claim to use a specific historical coat of arms rests on a family link with someone acknowledged to have used those arms.

    * Many unrelated families share the same surname. (There are 2.5 million Americans named "Smith".) Sharing a surname does not mean that you share
    the right to the same arms.

    * Conversely, many families with different names have the same coat of
    arms. A coat of arms does not uniquely identify a family.

    * A fairly small fraction of society ever used coats of arms at any time.
    Only a few Smith families actually bore arms. Arms were used throughout
    the social scale, but much moreso at the top than at the bottom. Most Americans are descended from lower-class immigrants. Statistically, then,
    the chance that an immigrant ancestor of yours bore arms is not very high.

    * No one on Earth has a complete record of all coats of arms used or
    granted throughout history.

    Therefore, if your name is Smith, and a book or a guy in a mall shows you a coat of arms with the name Smith under it, that proves nothing at all. You
    are just as likely to be related to the founder of the Virginia colony, or
    the Scottish economist, or the nephew of Senator Kennedy, or none of the
    above. The guy in the mall with the database is fudging these issues and trying to sell you a pig in a poke. His database is certainly incomplete
    and probably very inaccurate, and he doesn't care about pedigrees. He is
    just out to exploit the similarity between your name and some name in his database.

    In order to determine what your arms are, we would need much more than your name: We would need your pedigree traced back to someone who used a coat of arms. The standard of proof will vary with the needs: If you are of
    Scottish descent and wish to matriculate arms with the Scottish heraldic authority, you'd better have a well-documented pedigree, probably
    stretching over several centuries. If you only want to use arms for
    yourself in a country such as the USA where heraldry is unregulated, then
    it is just a matter of satisfying yourself. Strictly genealogical matters
    are best discussed in the soc.genealogy.* hierarchy.

    On the other hand, if you do live in a country where heraldry is
    unregulated, you are free to choose arms for yourself. You can choose any
    arms you want, whether or not your family relationships entitle you to
    those arms. You may decide to choose unique arms, created especially for
    you, or borrow arms from some existing family. Some people consider it bad taste to use existing arms if you cannot prove your descent from the family that bore them. In any case, it behooves you to acquaint yourself with heraldry, its rules and its aesthetics, so that you can design, or have designed for you, a coat that pleases you and others as well.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.


    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers this question.

    The short answer is that there are no systematic meanings assigned to the charges and tinctures in arms. There is no way to look at a set of arms
    and decypher the original designer's intended symbolism.

    At various times in the history of heraldry -- mostly between the 16th and early 19th centuries, and mostly in England -- various authors tried to
    create systems of meaning for every charge and tincture in arms. Some of
    them went so far as to claim that their system had _always_ been in use,
    and therefore that the symbolism of ancient arms could be deduced from
    their charts. It was all bunk. Some heralds probably did design arms according to one or another of these systems -- which aren't consistent, by
    the way -- but we have no way of know, in general, when this was done.

    In some instances, the heraldic designer left us notes explaining why he
    chose certain charges for someone's arms. Designer's notes are almost
    standard in modern cases, but as you look further back in history, they
    quickly become an exceptional rarity. We do have a few amusing early
    examples. One herald from the Tudor period, for example, left us the information that he provided a particular knight with arms featuring an ox because the knight had been castrated in battle.

    In the absense of specific information about a set of arms, we can only
    guess what symbolism was intended by the designer. Of course, we can make informed guesses.

    Some charges are easy: Crosses were probably always intended to express Christian devotion. Lions and eagles have always represented nobility.
    And there is a small number of charges which always have a particular
    meaning: the red hand of Ulster, the royal tressure of Scotland, etc.
    But when we look at more common charges or at tinctures, there is no
    general answer.

    To go further, you need to research the person who bore the arms and the circumstances under which he received or adopted them. This research may reveal other clues to the motives of the designer.

    For example, we might find that the arms are a variant of arms held by a related family. This practice is called "cadency" and is quite common in medieval armory. A similar practice might be called "feudal cadency"; some minor noblemen adopted arms incorporating a charge from the arms of their overlords.

    Merchants and craftsmen often included the tools of the trades in their
    arms, or an attribute of their patron saint.

    Very frequently, the family name of the original owner of the arms sounds similar to the name of one of the charges used in his arms. This practice
    is called "canting" and was extremely common in medieval armorial design. Sometimes the cant is easy to recognize: A lion for "Lyons" or a fox for "Fuchs". Sometimes it takes specialized knowledge: The fish in the arms of
    "de Lucy" is called a "lucy", an archaic name for a species of pike. The
    cant can involve more than one language: An English family "Harrison" bears
    a hedgehog, called "herisson" in Middle French.

    There are other patterns of armorial design found in one part of Europe or another, at one time or another. The more we know of the history of the
    people who originally bore the arms, we more likely we can make an
    intelligent guess as to the intent of the designer of those arms. But when
    it comes right down to it, we can very seldom know for certain.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    This MFAQ written by :
    Josh Mittleman and Francois Velde. ---------------------------------------------------------------------

    --
    François R. Velde
    velde@nospam.org (replace by "heraldica")
    Heraldica Web Site: http://www.heraldica.org/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Francois R. Velde@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 1 06:00:04 2020
    Summary: "What are my arms?"
    Archive-name: heraldry/mfaq
    Posting-Frequency: weekly
    Last-modified: 1997/3/25
    URL: http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/mfaq


    The Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    A common variant is:

    "Some guy in a mall told me he could look up my name in a database
    and tell me my family arms? Can I trust him?"

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers these questions. We've noticed that these questions
    are usually asked by people from the US, so the answers are intended to fit
    the US context.

    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    The short answer is this: Your family probably has no coat of arms. Most families don't. Discovering whether _your_ family has arms is a
    time-consuming problem in genealogy. Anyone who claims to be able to find
    your arms simply by looking in a book or a database is either ignorant or lying.


    To explain in more detail, we have to clear up some misconceptions:

    * There is no such thing as "the arms of Smith". Arms are associated with families or lineages. A coat was inherited by a child from his parent,
    either intact or somewhat modified. But any individual's claim to use a specific historical coat of arms rests on a family link with someone acknowledged to have used those arms.

    * Many unrelated families share the same surname. (There are 2.5 million Americans named "Smith".) Sharing a surname does not mean that you share
    the right to the same arms.

    * Conversely, many families with different names have the same coat of
    arms. A coat of arms does not uniquely identify a family.

    * A fairly small fraction of society ever used coats of arms at any time.
    Only a few Smith families actually bore arms. Arms were used throughout
    the social scale, but much moreso at the top than at the bottom. Most Americans are descended from lower-class immigrants. Statistically, then,
    the chance that an immigrant ancestor of yours bore arms is not very high.

    * No one on Earth has a complete record of all coats of arms used or
    granted throughout history.

    Therefore, if your name is Smith, and a book or a guy in a mall shows you a coat of arms with the name Smith under it, that proves nothing at all. You
    are just as likely to be related to the founder of the Virginia colony, or
    the Scottish economist, or the nephew of Senator Kennedy, or none of the
    above. The guy in the mall with the database is fudging these issues and trying to sell you a pig in a poke. His database is certainly incomplete
    and probably very inaccurate, and he doesn't care about pedigrees. He is
    just out to exploit the similarity between your name and some name in his database.

    In order to determine what your arms are, we would need much more than your name: We would need your pedigree traced back to someone who used a coat of arms. The standard of proof will vary with the needs: If you are of
    Scottish descent and wish to matriculate arms with the Scottish heraldic authority, you'd better have a well-documented pedigree, probably
    stretching over several centuries. If you only want to use arms for
    yourself in a country such as the USA where heraldry is unregulated, then
    it is just a matter of satisfying yourself. Strictly genealogical matters
    are best discussed in the soc.genealogy.* hierarchy.

    On the other hand, if you do live in a country where heraldry is
    unregulated, you are free to choose arms for yourself. You can choose any
    arms you want, whether or not your family relationships entitle you to
    those arms. You may decide to choose unique arms, created especially for
    you, or borrow arms from some existing family. Some people consider it bad taste to use existing arms if you cannot prove your descent from the family that bore them. In any case, it behooves you to acquaint yourself with heraldry, its rules and its aesthetics, so that you can design, or have designed for you, a coat that pleases you and others as well.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.


    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers this question.

    The short answer is that there are no systematic meanings assigned to the charges and tinctures in arms. There is no way to look at a set of arms
    and decypher the original designer's intended symbolism.

    At various times in the history of heraldry -- mostly between the 16th and early 19th centuries, and mostly in England -- various authors tried to
    create systems of meaning for every charge and tincture in arms. Some of
    them went so far as to claim that their system had _always_ been in use,
    and therefore that the symbolism of ancient arms could be deduced from
    their charts. It was all bunk. Some heralds probably did design arms according to one or another of these systems -- which aren't consistent, by
    the way -- but we have no way of know, in general, when this was done.

    In some instances, the heraldic designer left us notes explaining why he
    chose certain charges for someone's arms. Designer's notes are almost
    standard in modern cases, but as you look further back in history, they
    quickly become an exceptional rarity. We do have a few amusing early
    examples. One herald from the Tudor period, for example, left us the information that he provided a particular knight with arms featuring an ox because the knight had been castrated in battle.

    In the absense of specific information about a set of arms, we can only
    guess what symbolism was intended by the designer. Of course, we can make informed guesses.

    Some charges are easy: Crosses were probably always intended to express Christian devotion. Lions and eagles have always represented nobility.
    And there is a small number of charges which always have a particular
    meaning: the red hand of Ulster, the royal tressure of Scotland, etc.
    But when we look at more common charges or at tinctures, there is no
    general answer.

    To go further, you need to research the person who bore the arms and the circumstances under which he received or adopted them. This research may reveal other clues to the motives of the designer.

    For example, we might find that the arms are a variant of arms held by a related family. This practice is called "cadency" and is quite common in medieval armory. A similar practice might be called "feudal cadency"; some minor noblemen adopted arms incorporating a charge from the arms of their overlords.

    Merchants and craftsmen often included the tools of the trades in their
    arms, or an attribute of their patron saint.

    Very frequently, the family name of the original owner of the arms sounds similar to the name of one of the charges used in his arms. This practice
    is called "canting" and was extremely common in medieval armorial design. Sometimes the cant is easy to recognize: A lion for "Lyons" or a fox for "Fuchs". Sometimes it takes specialized knowledge: The fish in the arms of
    "de Lucy" is called a "lucy", an archaic name for a species of pike. The
    cant can involve more than one language: An English family "Harrison" bears
    a hedgehog, called "herisson" in Middle French.

    There are other patterns of armorial design found in one part of Europe or another, at one time or another. The more we know of the history of the
    people who originally bore the arms, we more likely we can make an
    intelligent guess as to the intent of the designer of those arms. But when
    it comes right down to it, we can very seldom know for certain.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    This MFAQ written by :
    Josh Mittleman and Francois Velde. ---------------------------------------------------------------------

    --
    François R. Velde
    velde@nospam.org (replace by "heraldica")
    Heraldica Web Site: http://www.heraldica.org/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Francois R. Velde@21:1/5 to All on Sun Nov 1 06:00:05 2020
    Summary: "What are my arms?"
    Archive-name: heraldry/mfaq
    Posting-Frequency: weekly
    Last-modified: 1997/3/25
    URL: http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/mfaq


    The Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    A common variant is:

    "Some guy in a mall told me he could look up my name in a database
    and tell me my family arms? Can I trust him?"

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers these questions. We've noticed that these questions
    are usually asked by people from the US, so the answers are intended to fit
    the US context.

    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    The short answer is this: Your family probably has no coat of arms. Most families don't. Discovering whether _your_ family has arms is a
    time-consuming problem in genealogy. Anyone who claims to be able to find
    your arms simply by looking in a book or a database is either ignorant or lying.


    To explain in more detail, we have to clear up some misconceptions:

    * There is no such thing as "the arms of Smith". Arms are associated with families or lineages. A coat was inherited by a child from his parent,
    either intact or somewhat modified. But any individual's claim to use a specific historical coat of arms rests on a family link with someone acknowledged to have used those arms.

    * Many unrelated families share the same surname. (There are 2.5 million Americans named "Smith".) Sharing a surname does not mean that you share
    the right to the same arms.

    * Conversely, many families with different names have the same coat of
    arms. A coat of arms does not uniquely identify a family.

    * A fairly small fraction of society ever used coats of arms at any time.
    Only a few Smith families actually bore arms. Arms were used throughout
    the social scale, but much moreso at the top than at the bottom. Most Americans are descended from lower-class immigrants. Statistically, then,
    the chance that an immigrant ancestor of yours bore arms is not very high.

    * No one on Earth has a complete record of all coats of arms used or
    granted throughout history.

    Therefore, if your name is Smith, and a book or a guy in a mall shows you a coat of arms with the name Smith under it, that proves nothing at all. You
    are just as likely to be related to the founder of the Virginia colony, or
    the Scottish economist, or the nephew of Senator Kennedy, or none of the
    above. The guy in the mall with the database is fudging these issues and trying to sell you a pig in a poke. His database is certainly incomplete
    and probably very inaccurate, and he doesn't care about pedigrees. He is
    just out to exploit the similarity between your name and some name in his database.

    In order to determine what your arms are, we would need much more than your name: We would need your pedigree traced back to someone who used a coat of arms. The standard of proof will vary with the needs: If you are of
    Scottish descent and wish to matriculate arms with the Scottish heraldic authority, you'd better have a well-documented pedigree, probably
    stretching over several centuries. If you only want to use arms for
    yourself in a country such as the USA where heraldry is unregulated, then
    it is just a matter of satisfying yourself. Strictly genealogical matters
    are best discussed in the soc.genealogy.* hierarchy.

    On the other hand, if you do live in a country where heraldry is
    unregulated, you are free to choose arms for yourself. You can choose any
    arms you want, whether or not your family relationships entitle you to
    those arms. You may decide to choose unique arms, created especially for
    you, or borrow arms from some existing family. Some people consider it bad taste to use existing arms if you cannot prove your descent from the family that bore them. In any case, it behooves you to acquaint yourself with heraldry, its rules and its aesthetics, so that you can design, or have designed for you, a coat that pleases you and others as well.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.


    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers this question.

    The short answer is that there are no systematic meanings assigned to the charges and tinctures in arms. There is no way to look at a set of arms
    and decypher the original designer's intended symbolism.

    At various times in the history of heraldry -- mostly between the 16th and early 19th centuries, and mostly in England -- various authors tried to
    create systems of meaning for every charge and tincture in arms. Some of
    them went so far as to claim that their system had _always_ been in use,
    and therefore that the symbolism of ancient arms could be deduced from
    their charts. It was all bunk. Some heralds probably did design arms according to one or another of these systems -- which aren't consistent, by
    the way -- but we have no way of know, in general, when this was done.

    In some instances, the heraldic designer left us notes explaining why he
    chose certain charges for someone's arms. Designer's notes are almost
    standard in modern cases, but as you look further back in history, they
    quickly become an exceptional rarity. We do have a few amusing early
    examples. One herald from the Tudor period, for example, left us the information that he provided a particular knight with arms featuring an ox because the knight had been castrated in battle.

    In the absense of specific information about a set of arms, we can only
    guess what symbolism was intended by the designer. Of course, we can make informed guesses.

    Some charges are easy: Crosses were probably always intended to express Christian devotion. Lions and eagles have always represented nobility.
    And there is a small number of charges which always have a particular
    meaning: the red hand of Ulster, the royal tressure of Scotland, etc.
    But when we look at more common charges or at tinctures, there is no
    general answer.

    To go further, you need to research the person who bore the arms and the circumstances under which he received or adopted them. This research may reveal other clues to the motives of the designer.

    For example, we might find that the arms are a variant of arms held by a related family. This practice is called "cadency" and is quite common in medieval armory. A similar practice might be called "feudal cadency"; some minor noblemen adopted arms incorporating a charge from the arms of their overlords.

    Merchants and craftsmen often included the tools of the trades in their
    arms, or an attribute of their patron saint.

    Very frequently, the family name of the original owner of the arms sounds similar to the name of one of the charges used in his arms. This practice
    is called "canting" and was extremely common in medieval armorial design. Sometimes the cant is easy to recognize: A lion for "Lyons" or a fox for "Fuchs". Sometimes it takes specialized knowledge: The fish in the arms of
    "de Lucy" is called a "lucy", an archaic name for a species of pike. The
    cant can involve more than one language: An English family "Harrison" bears
    a hedgehog, called "herisson" in Middle French.

    There are other patterns of armorial design found in one part of Europe or another, at one time or another. The more we know of the history of the
    people who originally bore the arms, we more likely we can make an
    intelligent guess as to the intent of the designer of those arms. But when
    it comes right down to it, we can very seldom know for certain.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    This MFAQ written by :
    Josh Mittleman and Francois Velde. ---------------------------------------------------------------------

    --
    François R. Velde
    velde@nospam.org (replace by "heraldica")
    Heraldica Web Site: http://www.heraldica.org/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Francois R. Velde@21:1/5 to All on Sun Nov 1 07:00:05 2020
    Summary: "What are my arms?"
    Archive-name: heraldry/mfaq
    Posting-Frequency: weekly
    Last-modified: 1997/3/25
    URL: http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/mfaq


    The Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    A common variant is:

    "Some guy in a mall told me he could look up my name in a database
    and tell me my family arms? Can I trust him?"

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers these questions. We've noticed that these questions
    are usually asked by people from the US, so the answers are intended to fit
    the US context.

    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    The short answer is this: Your family probably has no coat of arms. Most families don't. Discovering whether _your_ family has arms is a
    time-consuming problem in genealogy. Anyone who claims to be able to find
    your arms simply by looking in a book or a database is either ignorant or lying.


    To explain in more detail, we have to clear up some misconceptions:

    * There is no such thing as "the arms of Smith". Arms are associated with families or lineages. A coat was inherited by a child from his parent,
    either intact or somewhat modified. But any individual's claim to use a specific historical coat of arms rests on a family link with someone acknowledged to have used those arms.

    * Many unrelated families share the same surname. (There are 2.5 million Americans named "Smith".) Sharing a surname does not mean that you share
    the right to the same arms.

    * Conversely, many families with different names have the same coat of
    arms. A coat of arms does not uniquely identify a family.

    * A fairly small fraction of society ever used coats of arms at any time.
    Only a few Smith families actually bore arms. Arms were used throughout
    the social scale, but much moreso at the top than at the bottom. Most Americans are descended from lower-class immigrants. Statistically, then,
    the chance that an immigrant ancestor of yours bore arms is not very high.

    * No one on Earth has a complete record of all coats of arms used or
    granted throughout history.

    Therefore, if your name is Smith, and a book or a guy in a mall shows you a coat of arms with the name Smith under it, that proves nothing at all. You
    are just as likely to be related to the founder of the Virginia colony, or
    the Scottish economist, or the nephew of Senator Kennedy, or none of the
    above. The guy in the mall with the database is fudging these issues and trying to sell you a pig in a poke. His database is certainly incomplete
    and probably very inaccurate, and he doesn't care about pedigrees. He is
    just out to exploit the similarity between your name and some name in his database.

    In order to determine what your arms are, we would need much more than your name: We would need your pedigree traced back to someone who used a coat of arms. The standard of proof will vary with the needs: If you are of
    Scottish descent and wish to matriculate arms with the Scottish heraldic authority, you'd better have a well-documented pedigree, probably
    stretching over several centuries. If you only want to use arms for
    yourself in a country such as the USA where heraldry is unregulated, then
    it is just a matter of satisfying yourself. Strictly genealogical matters
    are best discussed in the soc.genealogy.* hierarchy.

    On the other hand, if you do live in a country where heraldry is
    unregulated, you are free to choose arms for yourself. You can choose any
    arms you want, whether or not your family relationships entitle you to
    those arms. You may decide to choose unique arms, created especially for
    you, or borrow arms from some existing family. Some people consider it bad taste to use existing arms if you cannot prove your descent from the family that bore them. In any case, it behooves you to acquaint yourself with heraldry, its rules and its aesthetics, so that you can design, or have designed for you, a coat that pleases you and others as well.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.


    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers this question.

    The short answer is that there are no systematic meanings assigned to the charges and tinctures in arms. There is no way to look at a set of arms
    and decypher the original designer's intended symbolism.

    At various times in the history of heraldry -- mostly between the 16th and early 19th centuries, and mostly in England -- various authors tried to
    create systems of meaning for every charge and tincture in arms. Some of
    them went so far as to claim that their system had _always_ been in use,
    and therefore that the symbolism of ancient arms could be deduced from
    their charts. It was all bunk. Some heralds probably did design arms according to one or another of these systems -- which aren't consistent, by
    the way -- but we have no way of know, in general, when this was done.

    In some instances, the heraldic designer left us notes explaining why he
    chose certain charges for someone's arms. Designer's notes are almost
    standard in modern cases, but as you look further back in history, they
    quickly become an exceptional rarity. We do have a few amusing early
    examples. One herald from the Tudor period, for example, left us the information that he provided a particular knight with arms featuring an ox because the knight had been castrated in battle.

    In the absense of specific information about a set of arms, we can only
    guess what symbolism was intended by the designer. Of course, we can make informed guesses.

    Some charges are easy: Crosses were probably always intended to express Christian devotion. Lions and eagles have always represented nobility.
    And there is a small number of charges which always have a particular
    meaning: the red hand of Ulster, the royal tressure of Scotland, etc.
    But when we look at more common charges or at tinctures, there is no
    general answer.

    To go further, you need to research the person who bore the arms and the circumstances under which he received or adopted them. This research may reveal other clues to the motives of the designer.

    For example, we might find that the arms are a variant of arms held by a related family. This practice is called "cadency" and is quite common in medieval armory. A similar practice might be called "feudal cadency"; some minor noblemen adopted arms incorporating a charge from the arms of their overlords.

    Merchants and craftsmen often included the tools of the trades in their
    arms, or an attribute of their patron saint.

    Very frequently, the family name of the original owner of the arms sounds similar to the name of one of the charges used in his arms. This practice
    is called "canting" and was extremely common in medieval armorial design. Sometimes the cant is easy to recognize: A lion for "Lyons" or a fox for "Fuchs". Sometimes it takes specialized knowledge: The fish in the arms of
    "de Lucy" is called a "lucy", an archaic name for a species of pike. The
    cant can involve more than one language: An English family "Harrison" bears
    a hedgehog, called "herisson" in Middle French.

    There are other patterns of armorial design found in one part of Europe or another, at one time or another. The more we know of the history of the
    people who originally bore the arms, we more likely we can make an
    intelligent guess as to the intent of the designer of those arms. But when
    it comes right down to it, we can very seldom know for certain.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    This MFAQ written by :
    Josh Mittleman and Francois Velde. ---------------------------------------------------------------------

    --
    François R. Velde
    velde@nospam.org (replace by "heraldica")
    Heraldica Web Site: http://www.heraldica.org/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Francois R. Velde@21:1/5 to All on Tue Dec 1 07:00:02 2020
    Summary: "What are my arms?"
    Archive-name: heraldry/mfaq
    Posting-Frequency: weekly
    Last-modified: 1997/3/25
    URL: http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/mfaq


    The Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    A common variant is:

    "Some guy in a mall told me he could look up my name in a database
    and tell me my family arms? Can I trust him?"

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers these questions. We've noticed that these questions
    are usually asked by people from the US, so the answers are intended to fit
    the US context.

    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    The short answer is this: Your family probably has no coat of arms. Most families don't. Discovering whether _your_ family has arms is a
    time-consuming problem in genealogy. Anyone who claims to be able to find
    your arms simply by looking in a book or a database is either ignorant or lying.


    To explain in more detail, we have to clear up some misconceptions:

    * There is no such thing as "the arms of Smith". Arms are associated with families or lineages. A coat was inherited by a child from his parent,
    either intact or somewhat modified. But any individual's claim to use a specific historical coat of arms rests on a family link with someone acknowledged to have used those arms.

    * Many unrelated families share the same surname. (There are 2.5 million Americans named "Smith".) Sharing a surname does not mean that you share
    the right to the same arms.

    * Conversely, many families with different names have the same coat of
    arms. A coat of arms does not uniquely identify a family.

    * A fairly small fraction of society ever used coats of arms at any time.
    Only a few Smith families actually bore arms. Arms were used throughout
    the social scale, but much moreso at the top than at the bottom. Most Americans are descended from lower-class immigrants. Statistically, then,
    the chance that an immigrant ancestor of yours bore arms is not very high.

    * No one on Earth has a complete record of all coats of arms used or
    granted throughout history.

    Therefore, if your name is Smith, and a book or a guy in a mall shows you a coat of arms with the name Smith under it, that proves nothing at all. You
    are just as likely to be related to the founder of the Virginia colony, or
    the Scottish economist, or the nephew of Senator Kennedy, or none of the
    above. The guy in the mall with the database is fudging these issues and trying to sell you a pig in a poke. His database is certainly incomplete
    and probably very inaccurate, and he doesn't care about pedigrees. He is
    just out to exploit the similarity between your name and some name in his database.

    In order to determine what your arms are, we would need much more than your name: We would need your pedigree traced back to someone who used a coat of arms. The standard of proof will vary with the needs: If you are of
    Scottish descent and wish to matriculate arms with the Scottish heraldic authority, you'd better have a well-documented pedigree, probably
    stretching over several centuries. If you only want to use arms for
    yourself in a country such as the USA where heraldry is unregulated, then
    it is just a matter of satisfying yourself. Strictly genealogical matters
    are best discussed in the soc.genealogy.* hierarchy.

    On the other hand, if you do live in a country where heraldry is
    unregulated, you are free to choose arms for yourself. You can choose any
    arms you want, whether or not your family relationships entitle you to
    those arms. You may decide to choose unique arms, created especially for
    you, or borrow arms from some existing family. Some people consider it bad taste to use existing arms if you cannot prove your descent from the family that bore them. In any case, it behooves you to acquaint yourself with heraldry, its rules and its aesthetics, so that you can design, or have designed for you, a coat that pleases you and others as well.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.


    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers this question.

    The short answer is that there are no systematic meanings assigned to the charges and tinctures in arms. There is no way to look at a set of arms
    and decypher the original designer's intended symbolism.

    At various times in the history of heraldry -- mostly between the 16th and early 19th centuries, and mostly in England -- various authors tried to
    create systems of meaning for every charge and tincture in arms. Some of
    them went so far as to claim that their system had _always_ been in use,
    and therefore that the symbolism of ancient arms could be deduced from
    their charts. It was all bunk. Some heralds probably did design arms according to one or another of these systems -- which aren't consistent, by
    the way -- but we have no way of know, in general, when this was done.

    In some instances, the heraldic designer left us notes explaining why he
    chose certain charges for someone's arms. Designer's notes are almost
    standard in modern cases, but as you look further back in history, they
    quickly become an exceptional rarity. We do have a few amusing early
    examples. One herald from the Tudor period, for example, left us the information that he provided a particular knight with arms featuring an ox because the knight had been castrated in battle.

    In the absense of specific information about a set of arms, we can only
    guess what symbolism was intended by the designer. Of course, we can make informed guesses.

    Some charges are easy: Crosses were probably always intended to express Christian devotion. Lions and eagles have always represented nobility.
    And there is a small number of charges which always have a particular
    meaning: the red hand of Ulster, the royal tressure of Scotland, etc.
    But when we look at more common charges or at tinctures, there is no
    general answer.

    To go further, you need to research the person who bore the arms and the circumstances under which he received or adopted them. This research may reveal other clues to the motives of the designer.

    For example, we might find that the arms are a variant of arms held by a related family. This practice is called "cadency" and is quite common in medieval armory. A similar practice might be called "feudal cadency"; some minor noblemen adopted arms incorporating a charge from the arms of their overlords.

    Merchants and craftsmen often included the tools of the trades in their
    arms, or an attribute of their patron saint.

    Very frequently, the family name of the original owner of the arms sounds similar to the name of one of the charges used in his arms. This practice
    is called "canting" and was extremely common in medieval armorial design. Sometimes the cant is easy to recognize: A lion for "Lyons" or a fox for "Fuchs". Sometimes it takes specialized knowledge: The fish in the arms of
    "de Lucy" is called a "lucy", an archaic name for a species of pike. The
    cant can involve more than one language: An English family "Harrison" bears
    a hedgehog, called "herisson" in Middle French.

    There are other patterns of armorial design found in one part of Europe or another, at one time or another. The more we know of the history of the
    people who originally bore the arms, we more likely we can make an
    intelligent guess as to the intent of the designer of those arms. But when
    it comes right down to it, we can very seldom know for certain.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    This MFAQ written by :
    Josh Mittleman and Francois Velde. ---------------------------------------------------------------------

    --
    François R. Velde
    velde@nospam.org (replace by "heraldica")
    Heraldica Web Site: http://www.heraldica.org/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Francois R. Velde@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jan 1 07:00:05 2021
    Summary: "What are my arms?"
    Archive-name: heraldry/mfaq
    Posting-Frequency: weekly
    Last-modified: 1997/3/25
    URL: http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/mfaq


    The Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    A common variant is:

    "Some guy in a mall told me he could look up my name in a database
    and tell me my family arms? Can I trust him?"

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers these questions. We've noticed that these questions
    are usually asked by people from the US, so the answers are intended to fit
    the US context.

    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    The short answer is this: Your family probably has no coat of arms. Most families don't. Discovering whether _your_ family has arms is a
    time-consuming problem in genealogy. Anyone who claims to be able to find
    your arms simply by looking in a book or a database is either ignorant or lying.


    To explain in more detail, we have to clear up some misconceptions:

    * There is no such thing as "the arms of Smith". Arms are associated with families or lineages. A coat was inherited by a child from his parent,
    either intact or somewhat modified. But any individual's claim to use a specific historical coat of arms rests on a family link with someone acknowledged to have used those arms.

    * Many unrelated families share the same surname. (There are 2.5 million Americans named "Smith".) Sharing a surname does not mean that you share
    the right to the same arms.

    * Conversely, many families with different names have the same coat of
    arms. A coat of arms does not uniquely identify a family.

    * A fairly small fraction of society ever used coats of arms at any time.
    Only a few Smith families actually bore arms. Arms were used throughout
    the social scale, but much moreso at the top than at the bottom. Most Americans are descended from lower-class immigrants. Statistically, then,
    the chance that an immigrant ancestor of yours bore arms is not very high.

    * No one on Earth has a complete record of all coats of arms used or
    granted throughout history.

    Therefore, if your name is Smith, and a book or a guy in a mall shows you a coat of arms with the name Smith under it, that proves nothing at all. You
    are just as likely to be related to the founder of the Virginia colony, or
    the Scottish economist, or the nephew of Senator Kennedy, or none of the
    above. The guy in the mall with the database is fudging these issues and trying to sell you a pig in a poke. His database is certainly incomplete
    and probably very inaccurate, and he doesn't care about pedigrees. He is
    just out to exploit the similarity between your name and some name in his database.

    In order to determine what your arms are, we would need much more than your name: We would need your pedigree traced back to someone who used a coat of arms. The standard of proof will vary with the needs: If you are of
    Scottish descent and wish to matriculate arms with the Scottish heraldic authority, you'd better have a well-documented pedigree, probably
    stretching over several centuries. If you only want to use arms for
    yourself in a country such as the USA where heraldry is unregulated, then
    it is just a matter of satisfying yourself. Strictly genealogical matters
    are best discussed in the soc.genealogy.* hierarchy.

    On the other hand, if you do live in a country where heraldry is
    unregulated, you are free to choose arms for yourself. You can choose any
    arms you want, whether or not your family relationships entitle you to
    those arms. You may decide to choose unique arms, created especially for
    you, or borrow arms from some existing family. Some people consider it bad taste to use existing arms if you cannot prove your descent from the family that bore them. In any case, it behooves you to acquaint yourself with heraldry, its rules and its aesthetics, so that you can design, or have designed for you, a coat that pleases you and others as well.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.


    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers this question.

    The short answer is that there are no systematic meanings assigned to the charges and tinctures in arms. There is no way to look at a set of arms
    and decypher the original designer's intended symbolism.

    At various times in the history of heraldry -- mostly between the 16th and early 19th centuries, and mostly in England -- various authors tried to
    create systems of meaning for every charge and tincture in arms. Some of
    them went so far as to claim that their system had _always_ been in use,
    and therefore that the symbolism of ancient arms could be deduced from
    their charts. It was all bunk. Some heralds probably did design arms according to one or another of these systems -- which aren't consistent, by
    the way -- but we have no way of know, in general, when this was done.

    In some instances, the heraldic designer left us notes explaining why he
    chose certain charges for someone's arms. Designer's notes are almost
    standard in modern cases, but as you look further back in history, they
    quickly become an exceptional rarity. We do have a few amusing early
    examples. One herald from the Tudor period, for example, left us the information that he provided a particular knight with arms featuring an ox because the knight had been castrated in battle.

    In the absense of specific information about a set of arms, we can only
    guess what symbolism was intended by the designer. Of course, we can make informed guesses.

    Some charges are easy: Crosses were probably always intended to express Christian devotion. Lions and eagles have always represented nobility.
    And there is a small number of charges which always have a particular
    meaning: the red hand of Ulster, the royal tressure of Scotland, etc.
    But when we look at more common charges or at tinctures, there is no
    general answer.

    To go further, you need to research the person who bore the arms and the circumstances under which he received or adopted them. This research may reveal other clues to the motives of the designer.

    For example, we might find that the arms are a variant of arms held by a related family. This practice is called "cadency" and is quite common in medieval armory. A similar practice might be called "feudal cadency"; some minor noblemen adopted arms incorporating a charge from the arms of their overlords.

    Merchants and craftsmen often included the tools of the trades in their
    arms, or an attribute of their patron saint.

    Very frequently, the family name of the original owner of the arms sounds similar to the name of one of the charges used in his arms. This practice
    is called "canting" and was extremely common in medieval armorial design. Sometimes the cant is easy to recognize: A lion for "Lyons" or a fox for "Fuchs". Sometimes it takes specialized knowledge: The fish in the arms of
    "de Lucy" is called a "lucy", an archaic name for a species of pike. The
    cant can involve more than one language: An English family "Harrison" bears
    a hedgehog, called "herisson" in Middle French.

    There are other patterns of armorial design found in one part of Europe or another, at one time or another. The more we know of the history of the
    people who originally bore the arms, we more likely we can make an
    intelligent guess as to the intent of the designer of those arms. But when
    it comes right down to it, we can very seldom know for certain.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    This MFAQ written by :
    Josh Mittleman and Francois Velde. ---------------------------------------------------------------------

    --
    François R. Velde
    velde@nospam.org (replace by "heraldica")
    Heraldica Web Site: http://www.heraldica.org/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Francois R. Velde@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 1 07:00:04 2021
    Summary: "What are my arms?"
    Archive-name: heraldry/mfaq
    Posting-Frequency: weekly
    Last-modified: 1997/3/25
    URL: http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/mfaq


    The Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    A common variant is:

    "Some guy in a mall told me he could look up my name in a database
    and tell me my family arms? Can I trust him?"

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers these questions. We've noticed that these questions
    are usually asked by people from the US, so the answers are intended to fit
    the US context.

    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    The short answer is this: Your family probably has no coat of arms. Most families don't. Discovering whether _your_ family has arms is a
    time-consuming problem in genealogy. Anyone who claims to be able to find
    your arms simply by looking in a book or a database is either ignorant or lying.


    To explain in more detail, we have to clear up some misconceptions:

    * There is no such thing as "the arms of Smith". Arms are associated with families or lineages. A coat was inherited by a child from his parent,
    either intact or somewhat modified. But any individual's claim to use a specific historical coat of arms rests on a family link with someone acknowledged to have used those arms.

    * Many unrelated families share the same surname. (There are 2.5 million Americans named "Smith".) Sharing a surname does not mean that you share
    the right to the same arms.

    * Conversely, many families with different names have the same coat of
    arms. A coat of arms does not uniquely identify a family.

    * A fairly small fraction of society ever used coats of arms at any time.
    Only a few Smith families actually bore arms. Arms were used throughout
    the social scale, but much moreso at the top than at the bottom. Most Americans are descended from lower-class immigrants. Statistically, then,
    the chance that an immigrant ancestor of yours bore arms is not very high.

    * No one on Earth has a complete record of all coats of arms used or
    granted throughout history.

    Therefore, if your name is Smith, and a book or a guy in a mall shows you a coat of arms with the name Smith under it, that proves nothing at all. You
    are just as likely to be related to the founder of the Virginia colony, or
    the Scottish economist, or the nephew of Senator Kennedy, or none of the
    above. The guy in the mall with the database is fudging these issues and trying to sell you a pig in a poke. His database is certainly incomplete
    and probably very inaccurate, and he doesn't care about pedigrees. He is
    just out to exploit the similarity between your name and some name in his database.

    In order to determine what your arms are, we would need much more than your name: We would need your pedigree traced back to someone who used a coat of arms. The standard of proof will vary with the needs: If you are of
    Scottish descent and wish to matriculate arms with the Scottish heraldic authority, you'd better have a well-documented pedigree, probably
    stretching over several centuries. If you only want to use arms for
    yourself in a country such as the USA where heraldry is unregulated, then
    it is just a matter of satisfying yourself. Strictly genealogical matters
    are best discussed in the soc.genealogy.* hierarchy.

    On the other hand, if you do live in a country where heraldry is
    unregulated, you are free to choose arms for yourself. You can choose any
    arms you want, whether or not your family relationships entitle you to
    those arms. You may decide to choose unique arms, created especially for
    you, or borrow arms from some existing family. Some people consider it bad taste to use existing arms if you cannot prove your descent from the family that bore them. In any case, it behooves you to acquaint yourself with heraldry, its rules and its aesthetics, so that you can design, or have designed for you, a coat that pleases you and others as well.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.


    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers this question.

    The short answer is that there are no systematic meanings assigned to the charges and tinctures in arms. There is no way to look at a set of arms
    and decypher the original designer's intended symbolism.

    At various times in the history of heraldry -- mostly between the 16th and early 19th centuries, and mostly in England -- various authors tried to
    create systems of meaning for every charge and tincture in arms. Some of
    them went so far as to claim that their system had _always_ been in use,
    and therefore that the symbolism of ancient arms could be deduced from
    their charts. It was all bunk. Some heralds probably did design arms according to one or another of these systems -- which aren't consistent, by
    the way -- but we have no way of know, in general, when this was done.

    In some instances, the heraldic designer left us notes explaining why he
    chose certain charges for someone's arms. Designer's notes are almost
    standard in modern cases, but as you look further back in history, they
    quickly become an exceptional rarity. We do have a few amusing early
    examples. One herald from the Tudor period, for example, left us the information that he provided a particular knight with arms featuring an ox because the knight had been castrated in battle.

    In the absense of specific information about a set of arms, we can only
    guess what symbolism was intended by the designer. Of course, we can make informed guesses.

    Some charges are easy: Crosses were probably always intended to express Christian devotion. Lions and eagles have always represented nobility.
    And there is a small number of charges which always have a particular
    meaning: the red hand of Ulster, the royal tressure of Scotland, etc.
    But when we look at more common charges or at tinctures, there is no
    general answer.

    To go further, you need to research the person who bore the arms and the circumstances under which he received or adopted them. This research may reveal other clues to the motives of the designer.

    For example, we might find that the arms are a variant of arms held by a related family. This practice is called "cadency" and is quite common in medieval armory. A similar practice might be called "feudal cadency"; some minor noblemen adopted arms incorporating a charge from the arms of their overlords.

    Merchants and craftsmen often included the tools of the trades in their
    arms, or an attribute of their patron saint.

    Very frequently, the family name of the original owner of the arms sounds similar to the name of one of the charges used in his arms. This practice
    is called "canting" and was extremely common in medieval armorial design. Sometimes the cant is easy to recognize: A lion for "Lyons" or a fox for "Fuchs". Sometimes it takes specialized knowledge: The fish in the arms of
    "de Lucy" is called a "lucy", an archaic name for a species of pike. The
    cant can involve more than one language: An English family "Harrison" bears
    a hedgehog, called "herisson" in Middle French.

    There are other patterns of armorial design found in one part of Europe or another, at one time or another. The more we know of the history of the
    people who originally bore the arms, we more likely we can make an
    intelligent guess as to the intent of the designer of those arms. But when
    it comes right down to it, we can very seldom know for certain.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    This MFAQ written by :
    Josh Mittleman and Francois Velde. ---------------------------------------------------------------------

    --
    François R. Velde
    velde@nospam.org (replace by "heraldica")
    Heraldica Web Site: http://www.heraldica.org/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Francois R. Velde@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 1 07:00:04 2021
    Summary: "What are my arms?"
    Archive-name: heraldry/mfaq
    Posting-Frequency: weekly
    Last-modified: 1997/3/25
    URL: http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/mfaq


    The Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    A common variant is:

    "Some guy in a mall told me he could look up my name in a database
    and tell me my family arms? Can I trust him?"

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers these questions. We've noticed that these questions
    are usually asked by people from the US, so the answers are intended to fit
    the US context.

    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    The short answer is this: Your family probably has no coat of arms. Most families don't. Discovering whether _your_ family has arms is a
    time-consuming problem in genealogy. Anyone who claims to be able to find
    your arms simply by looking in a book or a database is either ignorant or lying.


    To explain in more detail, we have to clear up some misconceptions:

    * There is no such thing as "the arms of Smith". Arms are associated with families or lineages. A coat was inherited by a child from his parent,
    either intact or somewhat modified. But any individual's claim to use a specific historical coat of arms rests on a family link with someone acknowledged to have used those arms.

    * Many unrelated families share the same surname. (There are 2.5 million Americans named "Smith".) Sharing a surname does not mean that you share
    the right to the same arms.

    * Conversely, many families with different names have the same coat of
    arms. A coat of arms does not uniquely identify a family.

    * A fairly small fraction of society ever used coats of arms at any time.
    Only a few Smith families actually bore arms. Arms were used throughout
    the social scale, but much moreso at the top than at the bottom. Most Americans are descended from lower-class immigrants. Statistically, then,
    the chance that an immigrant ancestor of yours bore arms is not very high.

    * No one on Earth has a complete record of all coats of arms used or
    granted throughout history.

    Therefore, if your name is Smith, and a book or a guy in a mall shows you a coat of arms with the name Smith under it, that proves nothing at all. You
    are just as likely to be related to the founder of the Virginia colony, or
    the Scottish economist, or the nephew of Senator Kennedy, or none of the
    above. The guy in the mall with the database is fudging these issues and trying to sell you a pig in a poke. His database is certainly incomplete
    and probably very inaccurate, and he doesn't care about pedigrees. He is
    just out to exploit the similarity between your name and some name in his database.

    In order to determine what your arms are, we would need much more than your name: We would need your pedigree traced back to someone who used a coat of arms. The standard of proof will vary with the needs: If you are of
    Scottish descent and wish to matriculate arms with the Scottish heraldic authority, you'd better have a well-documented pedigree, probably
    stretching over several centuries. If you only want to use arms for
    yourself in a country such as the USA where heraldry is unregulated, then
    it is just a matter of satisfying yourself. Strictly genealogical matters
    are best discussed in the soc.genealogy.* hierarchy.

    On the other hand, if you do live in a country where heraldry is
    unregulated, you are free to choose arms for yourself. You can choose any
    arms you want, whether or not your family relationships entitle you to
    those arms. You may decide to choose unique arms, created especially for
    you, or borrow arms from some existing family. Some people consider it bad taste to use existing arms if you cannot prove your descent from the family that bore them. In any case, it behooves you to acquaint yourself with heraldry, its rules and its aesthetics, so that you can design, or have designed for you, a coat that pleases you and others as well.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.


    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers this question.

    The short answer is that there are no systematic meanings assigned to the charges and tinctures in arms. There is no way to look at a set of arms
    and decypher the original designer's intended symbolism.

    At various times in the history of heraldry -- mostly between the 16th and early 19th centuries, and mostly in England -- various authors tried to
    create systems of meaning for every charge and tincture in arms. Some of
    them went so far as to claim that their system had _always_ been in use,
    and therefore that the symbolism of ancient arms could be deduced from
    their charts. It was all bunk. Some heralds probably did design arms according to one or another of these systems -- which aren't consistent, by
    the way -- but we have no way of know, in general, when this was done.

    In some instances, the heraldic designer left us notes explaining why he
    chose certain charges for someone's arms. Designer's notes are almost
    standard in modern cases, but as you look further back in history, they
    quickly become an exceptional rarity. We do have a few amusing early
    examples. One herald from the Tudor period, for example, left us the information that he provided a particular knight with arms featuring an ox because the knight had been castrated in battle.

    In the absense of specific information about a set of arms, we can only
    guess what symbolism was intended by the designer. Of course, we can make informed guesses.

    Some charges are easy: Crosses were probably always intended to express Christian devotion. Lions and eagles have always represented nobility.
    And there is a small number of charges which always have a particular
    meaning: the red hand of Ulster, the royal tressure of Scotland, etc.
    But when we look at more common charges or at tinctures, there is no
    general answer.

    To go further, you need to research the person who bore the arms and the circumstances under which he received or adopted them. This research may reveal other clues to the motives of the designer.

    For example, we might find that the arms are a variant of arms held by a related family. This practice is called "cadency" and is quite common in medieval armory. A similar practice might be called "feudal cadency"; some minor noblemen adopted arms incorporating a charge from the arms of their overlords.

    Merchants and craftsmen often included the tools of the trades in their
    arms, or an attribute of their patron saint.

    Very frequently, the family name of the original owner of the arms sounds similar to the name of one of the charges used in his arms. This practice
    is called "canting" and was extremely common in medieval armorial design. Sometimes the cant is easy to recognize: A lion for "Lyons" or a fox for "Fuchs". Sometimes it takes specialized knowledge: The fish in the arms of
    "de Lucy" is called a "lucy", an archaic name for a species of pike. The
    cant can involve more than one language: An English family "Harrison" bears
    a hedgehog, called "herisson" in Middle French.

    There are other patterns of armorial design found in one part of Europe or another, at one time or another. The more we know of the history of the
    people who originally bore the arms, we more likely we can make an
    intelligent guess as to the intent of the designer of those arms. But when
    it comes right down to it, we can very seldom know for certain.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    This MFAQ written by :
    Josh Mittleman and Francois Velde. ---------------------------------------------------------------------

    --
    François R. Velde
    velde@nospam.org (replace by "heraldica")
    Heraldica Web Site: http://www.heraldica.org/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Francois R. Velde@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 1 05:59:51 2021
    Summary: "What are my arms?"
    Archive-name: heraldry/mfaq
    Posting-Frequency: weekly
    Last-modified: 1997/3/25
    URL: http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/mfaq


    The Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    A common variant is:

    "Some guy in a mall told me he could look up my name in a database
    and tell me my family arms? Can I trust him?"

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers these questions. We've noticed that these questions
    are usually asked by people from the US, so the answers are intended to fit
    the US context.

    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    The short answer is this: Your family probably has no coat of arms. Most families don't. Discovering whether _your_ family has arms is a
    time-consuming problem in genealogy. Anyone who claims to be able to find
    your arms simply by looking in a book or a database is either ignorant or lying.


    To explain in more detail, we have to clear up some misconceptions:

    * There is no such thing as "the arms of Smith". Arms are associated with families or lineages. A coat was inherited by a child from his parent,
    either intact or somewhat modified. But any individual's claim to use a specific historical coat of arms rests on a family link with someone acknowledged to have used those arms.

    * Many unrelated families share the same surname. (There are 2.5 million Americans named "Smith".) Sharing a surname does not mean that you share
    the right to the same arms.

    * Conversely, many families with different names have the same coat of
    arms. A coat of arms does not uniquely identify a family.

    * A fairly small fraction of society ever used coats of arms at any time.
    Only a few Smith families actually bore arms. Arms were used throughout
    the social scale, but much moreso at the top than at the bottom. Most Americans are descended from lower-class immigrants. Statistically, then,
    the chance that an immigrant ancestor of yours bore arms is not very high.

    * No one on Earth has a complete record of all coats of arms used or
    granted throughout history.

    Therefore, if your name is Smith, and a book or a guy in a mall shows you a coat of arms with the name Smith under it, that proves nothing at all. You
    are just as likely to be related to the founder of the Virginia colony, or
    the Scottish economist, or the nephew of Senator Kennedy, or none of the
    above. The guy in the mall with the database is fudging these issues and trying to sell you a pig in a poke. His database is certainly incomplete
    and probably very inaccurate, and he doesn't care about pedigrees. He is
    just out to exploit the similarity between your name and some name in his database.

    In order to determine what your arms are, we would need much more than your name: We would need your pedigree traced back to someone who used a coat of arms. The standard of proof will vary with the needs: If you are of
    Scottish descent and wish to matriculate arms with the Scottish heraldic authority, you'd better have a well-documented pedigree, probably
    stretching over several centuries. If you only want to use arms for
    yourself in a country such as the USA where heraldry is unregulated, then
    it is just a matter of satisfying yourself. Strictly genealogical matters
    are best discussed in the soc.genealogy.* hierarchy.

    On the other hand, if you do live in a country where heraldry is
    unregulated, you are free to choose arms for yourself. You can choose any
    arms you want, whether or not your family relationships entitle you to
    those arms. You may decide to choose unique arms, created especially for
    you, or borrow arms from some existing family. Some people consider it bad taste to use existing arms if you cannot prove your descent from the family that bore them. In any case, it behooves you to acquaint yourself with heraldry, its rules and its aesthetics, so that you can design, or have designed for you, a coat that pleases you and others as well.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.


    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers this question.

    The short answer is that there are no systematic meanings assigned to the charges and tinctures in arms. There is no way to look at a set of arms
    and decypher the original designer's intended symbolism.

    At various times in the history of heraldry -- mostly between the 16th and early 19th centuries, and mostly in England -- various authors tried to
    create systems of meaning for every charge and tincture in arms. Some of
    them went so far as to claim that their system had _always_ been in use,
    and therefore that the symbolism of ancient arms could be deduced from
    their charts. It was all bunk. Some heralds probably did design arms according to one or another of these systems -- which aren't consistent, by
    the way -- but we have no way of know, in general, when this was done.

    In some instances, the heraldic designer left us notes explaining why he
    chose certain charges for someone's arms. Designer's notes are almost
    standard in modern cases, but as you look further back in history, they
    quickly become an exceptional rarity. We do have a few amusing early
    examples. One herald from the Tudor period, for example, left us the information that he provided a particular knight with arms featuring an ox because the knight had been castrated in battle.

    In the absense of specific information about a set of arms, we can only
    guess what symbolism was intended by the designer. Of course, we can make informed guesses.

    Some charges are easy: Crosses were probably always intended to express Christian devotion. Lions and eagles have always represented nobility.
    And there is a small number of charges which always have a particular
    meaning: the red hand of Ulster, the royal tressure of Scotland, etc.
    But when we look at more common charges or at tinctures, there is no
    general answer.

    To go further, you need to research the person who bore the arms and the circumstances under which he received or adopted them. This research may reveal other clues to the motives of the designer.

    For example, we might find that the arms are a variant of arms held by a related family. This practice is called "cadency" and is quite common in medieval armory. A similar practice might be called "feudal cadency"; some minor noblemen adopted arms incorporating a charge from the arms of their overlords.

    Merchants and craftsmen often included the tools of the trades in their
    arms, or an attribute of their patron saint.

    Very frequently, the family name of the original owner of the arms sounds similar to the name of one of the charges used in his arms. This practice
    is called "canting" and was extremely common in medieval armorial design. Sometimes the cant is easy to recognize: A lion for "Lyons" or a fox for "Fuchs". Sometimes it takes specialized knowledge: The fish in the arms of
    "de Lucy" is called a "lucy", an archaic name for a species of pike. The
    cant can involve more than one language: An English family "Harrison" bears
    a hedgehog, called "herisson" in Middle French.

    There are other patterns of armorial design found in one part of Europe or another, at one time or another. The more we know of the history of the
    people who originally bore the arms, we more likely we can make an
    intelligent guess as to the intent of the designer of those arms. But when
    it comes right down to it, we can very seldom know for certain.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    This MFAQ written by :
    Josh Mittleman and Francois Velde. ---------------------------------------------------------------------

    --
    François R. Velde
    velde@nospam.org (replace by "heraldica")
    Heraldica Web Site: http://www.heraldica.org/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Francois R. Velde@21:1/5 to All on Sat May 1 06:00:04 2021
    Summary: "What are my arms?"
    Archive-name: heraldry/mfaq
    Posting-Frequency: weekly
    Last-modified: 1997/3/25
    URL: http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/mfaq


    The Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    A common variant is:

    "Some guy in a mall told me he could look up my name in a database
    and tell me my family arms? Can I trust him?"

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers these questions. We've noticed that these questions
    are usually asked by people from the US, so the answers are intended to fit
    the US context.

    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    The short answer is this: Your family probably has no coat of arms. Most families don't. Discovering whether _your_ family has arms is a
    time-consuming problem in genealogy. Anyone who claims to be able to find
    your arms simply by looking in a book or a database is either ignorant or lying.


    To explain in more detail, we have to clear up some misconceptions:

    * There is no such thing as "the arms of Smith". Arms are associated with families or lineages. A coat was inherited by a child from his parent,
    either intact or somewhat modified. But any individual's claim to use a specific historical coat of arms rests on a family link with someone acknowledged to have used those arms.

    * Many unrelated families share the same surname. (There are 2.5 million Americans named "Smith".) Sharing a surname does not mean that you share
    the right to the same arms.

    * Conversely, many families with different names have the same coat of
    arms. A coat of arms does not uniquely identify a family.

    * A fairly small fraction of society ever used coats of arms at any time.
    Only a few Smith families actually bore arms. Arms were used throughout
    the social scale, but much moreso at the top than at the bottom. Most Americans are descended from lower-class immigrants. Statistically, then,
    the chance that an immigrant ancestor of yours bore arms is not very high.

    * No one on Earth has a complete record of all coats of arms used or
    granted throughout history.

    Therefore, if your name is Smith, and a book or a guy in a mall shows you a coat of arms with the name Smith under it, that proves nothing at all. You
    are just as likely to be related to the founder of the Virginia colony, or
    the Scottish economist, or the nephew of Senator Kennedy, or none of the
    above. The guy in the mall with the database is fudging these issues and trying to sell you a pig in a poke. His database is certainly incomplete
    and probably very inaccurate, and he doesn't care about pedigrees. He is
    just out to exploit the similarity between your name and some name in his database.

    In order to determine what your arms are, we would need much more than your name: We would need your pedigree traced back to someone who used a coat of arms. The standard of proof will vary with the needs: If you are of
    Scottish descent and wish to matriculate arms with the Scottish heraldic authority, you'd better have a well-documented pedigree, probably
    stretching over several centuries. If you only want to use arms for
    yourself in a country such as the USA where heraldry is unregulated, then
    it is just a matter of satisfying yourself. Strictly genealogical matters
    are best discussed in the soc.genealogy.* hierarchy.

    On the other hand, if you do live in a country where heraldry is
    unregulated, you are free to choose arms for yourself. You can choose any
    arms you want, whether or not your family relationships entitle you to
    those arms. You may decide to choose unique arms, created especially for
    you, or borrow arms from some existing family. Some people consider it bad taste to use existing arms if you cannot prove your descent from the family that bore them. In any case, it behooves you to acquaint yourself with heraldry, its rules and its aesthetics, so that you can design, or have designed for you, a coat that pleases you and others as well.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.


    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers this question.

    The short answer is that there are no systematic meanings assigned to the charges and tinctures in arms. There is no way to look at a set of arms
    and decypher the original designer's intended symbolism.

    At various times in the history of heraldry -- mostly between the 16th and early 19th centuries, and mostly in England -- various authors tried to
    create systems of meaning for every charge and tincture in arms. Some of
    them went so far as to claim that their system had _always_ been in use,
    and therefore that the symbolism of ancient arms could be deduced from
    their charts. It was all bunk. Some heralds probably did design arms according to one or another of these systems -- which aren't consistent, by
    the way -- but we have no way of know, in general, when this was done.

    In some instances, the heraldic designer left us notes explaining why he
    chose certain charges for someone's arms. Designer's notes are almost
    standard in modern cases, but as you look further back in history, they
    quickly become an exceptional rarity. We do have a few amusing early
    examples. One herald from the Tudor period, for example, left us the information that he provided a particular knight with arms featuring an ox because the knight had been castrated in battle.

    In the absense of specific information about a set of arms, we can only
    guess what symbolism was intended by the designer. Of course, we can make informed guesses.

    Some charges are easy: Crosses were probably always intended to express Christian devotion. Lions and eagles have always represented nobility.
    And there is a small number of charges which always have a particular
    meaning: the red hand of Ulster, the royal tressure of Scotland, etc.
    But when we look at more common charges or at tinctures, there is no
    general answer.

    To go further, you need to research the person who bore the arms and the circumstances under which he received or adopted them. This research may reveal other clues to the motives of the designer.

    For example, we might find that the arms are a variant of arms held by a related family. This practice is called "cadency" and is quite common in medieval armory. A similar practice might be called "feudal cadency"; some minor noblemen adopted arms incorporating a charge from the arms of their overlords.

    Merchants and craftsmen often included the tools of the trades in their
    arms, or an attribute of their patron saint.

    Very frequently, the family name of the original owner of the arms sounds similar to the name of one of the charges used in his arms. This practice
    is called "canting" and was extremely common in medieval armorial design. Sometimes the cant is easy to recognize: A lion for "Lyons" or a fox for "Fuchs". Sometimes it takes specialized knowledge: The fish in the arms of
    "de Lucy" is called a "lucy", an archaic name for a species of pike. The
    cant can involve more than one language: An English family "Harrison" bears
    a hedgehog, called "herisson" in Middle French.

    There are other patterns of armorial design found in one part of Europe or another, at one time or another. The more we know of the history of the
    people who originally bore the arms, we more likely we can make an
    intelligent guess as to the intent of the designer of those arms. But when
    it comes right down to it, we can very seldom know for certain.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    This MFAQ written by :
    Josh Mittleman and Francois Velde. ---------------------------------------------------------------------

    --
    François R. Velde
    velde@nospam.org (replace by "heraldica")
    Heraldica Web Site: http://www.heraldica.org/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Francois R. Velde@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 1 06:00:08 2021
    Summary: "What are my arms?"
    Archive-name: heraldry/mfaq
    Posting-Frequency: weekly
    Last-modified: 1997/3/25
    URL: http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/mfaq


    The Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    A common variant is:

    "Some guy in a mall told me he could look up my name in a database
    and tell me my family arms? Can I trust him?"

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers these questions. We've noticed that these questions
    are usually asked by people from the US, so the answers are intended to fit
    the US context.

    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    The short answer is this: Your family probably has no coat of arms. Most families don't. Discovering whether _your_ family has arms is a
    time-consuming problem in genealogy. Anyone who claims to be able to find
    your arms simply by looking in a book or a database is either ignorant or lying.


    To explain in more detail, we have to clear up some misconceptions:

    * There is no such thing as "the arms of Smith". Arms are associated with families or lineages. A coat was inherited by a child from his parent,
    either intact or somewhat modified. But any individual's claim to use a specific historical coat of arms rests on a family link with someone acknowledged to have used those arms.

    * Many unrelated families share the same surname. (There are 2.5 million Americans named "Smith".) Sharing a surname does not mean that you share
    the right to the same arms.

    * Conversely, many families with different names have the same coat of
    arms. A coat of arms does not uniquely identify a family.

    * A fairly small fraction of society ever used coats of arms at any time.
    Only a few Smith families actually bore arms. Arms were used throughout
    the social scale, but much moreso at the top than at the bottom. Most Americans are descended from lower-class immigrants. Statistically, then,
    the chance that an immigrant ancestor of yours bore arms is not very high.

    * No one on Earth has a complete record of all coats of arms used or
    granted throughout history.

    Therefore, if your name is Smith, and a book or a guy in a mall shows you a coat of arms with the name Smith under it, that proves nothing at all. You
    are just as likely to be related to the founder of the Virginia colony, or
    the Scottish economist, or the nephew of Senator Kennedy, or none of the
    above. The guy in the mall with the database is fudging these issues and trying to sell you a pig in a poke. His database is certainly incomplete
    and probably very inaccurate, and he doesn't care about pedigrees. He is
    just out to exploit the similarity between your name and some name in his database.

    In order to determine what your arms are, we would need much more than your name: We would need your pedigree traced back to someone who used a coat of arms. The standard of proof will vary with the needs: If you are of
    Scottish descent and wish to matriculate arms with the Scottish heraldic authority, you'd better have a well-documented pedigree, probably
    stretching over several centuries. If you only want to use arms for
    yourself in a country such as the USA where heraldry is unregulated, then
    it is just a matter of satisfying yourself. Strictly genealogical matters
    are best discussed in the soc.genealogy.* hierarchy.

    On the other hand, if you do live in a country where heraldry is
    unregulated, you are free to choose arms for yourself. You can choose any
    arms you want, whether or not your family relationships entitle you to
    those arms. You may decide to choose unique arms, created especially for
    you, or borrow arms from some existing family. Some people consider it bad taste to use existing arms if you cannot prove your descent from the family that bore them. In any case, it behooves you to acquaint yourself with heraldry, its rules and its aesthetics, so that you can design, or have designed for you, a coat that pleases you and others as well.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.


    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers this question.

    The short answer is that there are no systematic meanings assigned to the charges and tinctures in arms. There is no way to look at a set of arms
    and decypher the original designer's intended symbolism.

    At various times in the history of heraldry -- mostly between the 16th and early 19th centuries, and mostly in England -- various authors tried to
    create systems of meaning for every charge and tincture in arms. Some of
    them went so far as to claim that their system had _always_ been in use,
    and therefore that the symbolism of ancient arms could be deduced from
    their charts. It was all bunk. Some heralds probably did design arms according to one or another of these systems -- which aren't consistent, by
    the way -- but we have no way of know, in general, when this was done.

    In some instances, the heraldic designer left us notes explaining why he
    chose certain charges for someone's arms. Designer's notes are almost
    standard in modern cases, but as you look further back in history, they
    quickly become an exceptional rarity. We do have a few amusing early
    examples. One herald from the Tudor period, for example, left us the information that he provided a particular knight with arms featuring an ox because the knight had been castrated in battle.

    In the absense of specific information about a set of arms, we can only
    guess what symbolism was intended by the designer. Of course, we can make informed guesses.

    Some charges are easy: Crosses were probably always intended to express Christian devotion. Lions and eagles have always represented nobility.
    And there is a small number of charges which always have a particular
    meaning: the red hand of Ulster, the royal tressure of Scotland, etc.
    But when we look at more common charges or at tinctures, there is no
    general answer.

    To go further, you need to research the person who bore the arms and the circumstances under which he received or adopted them. This research may reveal other clues to the motives of the designer.

    For example, we might find that the arms are a variant of arms held by a related family. This practice is called "cadency" and is quite common in medieval armory. A similar practice might be called "feudal cadency"; some minor noblemen adopted arms incorporating a charge from the arms of their overlords.

    Merchants and craftsmen often included the tools of the trades in their
    arms, or an attribute of their patron saint.

    Very frequently, the family name of the original owner of the arms sounds similar to the name of one of the charges used in his arms. This practice
    is called "canting" and was extremely common in medieval armorial design. Sometimes the cant is easy to recognize: A lion for "Lyons" or a fox for "Fuchs". Sometimes it takes specialized knowledge: The fish in the arms of
    "de Lucy" is called a "lucy", an archaic name for a species of pike. The
    cant can involve more than one language: An English family "Harrison" bears
    a hedgehog, called "herisson" in Middle French.

    There are other patterns of armorial design found in one part of Europe or another, at one time or another. The more we know of the history of the
    people who originally bore the arms, we more likely we can make an
    intelligent guess as to the intent of the designer of those arms. But when
    it comes right down to it, we can very seldom know for certain.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    This MFAQ written by :
    Josh Mittleman and Francois Velde. ---------------------------------------------------------------------

    --
    François R. Velde
    velde@nospam.org (replace by "heraldica")
    Heraldica Web Site: http://www.heraldica.org/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Francois R. Velde@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jul 1 06:00:04 2021
    Summary: "What are my arms?"
    Archive-name: heraldry/mfaq
    Posting-Frequency: weekly
    Last-modified: 1997/3/25
    URL: http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/mfaq


    The Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    A common variant is:

    "Some guy in a mall told me he could look up my name in a database
    and tell me my family arms? Can I trust him?"

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers these questions. We've noticed that these questions
    are usually asked by people from the US, so the answers are intended to fit
    the US context.

    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    The short answer is this: Your family probably has no coat of arms. Most families don't. Discovering whether _your_ family has arms is a
    time-consuming problem in genealogy. Anyone who claims to be able to find
    your arms simply by looking in a book or a database is either ignorant or lying.


    To explain in more detail, we have to clear up some misconceptions:

    * There is no such thing as "the arms of Smith". Arms are associated with families or lineages. A coat was inherited by a child from his parent,
    either intact or somewhat modified. But any individual's claim to use a specific historical coat of arms rests on a family link with someone acknowledged to have used those arms.

    * Many unrelated families share the same surname. (There are 2.5 million Americans named "Smith".) Sharing a surname does not mean that you share
    the right to the same arms.

    * Conversely, many families with different names have the same coat of
    arms. A coat of arms does not uniquely identify a family.

    * A fairly small fraction of society ever used coats of arms at any time.
    Only a few Smith families actually bore arms. Arms were used throughout
    the social scale, but much moreso at the top than at the bottom. Most Americans are descended from lower-class immigrants. Statistically, then,
    the chance that an immigrant ancestor of yours bore arms is not very high.

    * No one on Earth has a complete record of all coats of arms used or
    granted throughout history.

    Therefore, if your name is Smith, and a book or a guy in a mall shows you a coat of arms with the name Smith under it, that proves nothing at all. You
    are just as likely to be related to the founder of the Virginia colony, or
    the Scottish economist, or the nephew of Senator Kennedy, or none of the
    above. The guy in the mall with the database is fudging these issues and trying to sell you a pig in a poke. His database is certainly incomplete
    and probably very inaccurate, and he doesn't care about pedigrees. He is
    just out to exploit the similarity between your name and some name in his database.

    In order to determine what your arms are, we would need much more than your name: We would need your pedigree traced back to someone who used a coat of arms. The standard of proof will vary with the needs: If you are of
    Scottish descent and wish to matriculate arms with the Scottish heraldic authority, you'd better have a well-documented pedigree, probably
    stretching over several centuries. If you only want to use arms for
    yourself in a country such as the USA where heraldry is unregulated, then
    it is just a matter of satisfying yourself. Strictly genealogical matters
    are best discussed in the soc.genealogy.* hierarchy.

    On the other hand, if you do live in a country where heraldry is
    unregulated, you are free to choose arms for yourself. You can choose any
    arms you want, whether or not your family relationships entitle you to
    those arms. You may decide to choose unique arms, created especially for
    you, or borrow arms from some existing family. Some people consider it bad taste to use existing arms if you cannot prove your descent from the family that bore them. In any case, it behooves you to acquaint yourself with heraldry, its rules and its aesthetics, so that you can design, or have designed for you, a coat that pleases you and others as well.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.


    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers this question.

    The short answer is that there are no systematic meanings assigned to the charges and tinctures in arms. There is no way to look at a set of arms
    and decypher the original designer's intended symbolism.

    At various times in the history of heraldry -- mostly between the 16th and early 19th centuries, and mostly in England -- various authors tried to
    create systems of meaning for every charge and tincture in arms. Some of
    them went so far as to claim that their system had _always_ been in use,
    and therefore that the symbolism of ancient arms could be deduced from
    their charts. It was all bunk. Some heralds probably did design arms according to one or another of these systems -- which aren't consistent, by
    the way -- but we have no way of know, in general, when this was done.

    In some instances, the heraldic designer left us notes explaining why he
    chose certain charges for someone's arms. Designer's notes are almost
    standard in modern cases, but as you look further back in history, they
    quickly become an exceptional rarity. We do have a few amusing early
    examples. One herald from the Tudor period, for example, left us the information that he provided a particular knight with arms featuring an ox because the knight had been castrated in battle.

    In the absense of specific information about a set of arms, we can only
    guess what symbolism was intended by the designer. Of course, we can make informed guesses.

    Some charges are easy: Crosses were probably always intended to express Christian devotion. Lions and eagles have always represented nobility.
    And there is a small number of charges which always have a particular
    meaning: the red hand of Ulster, the royal tressure of Scotland, etc.
    But when we look at more common charges or at tinctures, there is no
    general answer.

    To go further, you need to research the person who bore the arms and the circumstances under which he received or adopted them. This research may reveal other clues to the motives of the designer.

    For example, we might find that the arms are a variant of arms held by a related family. This practice is called "cadency" and is quite common in medieval armory. A similar practice might be called "feudal cadency"; some minor noblemen adopted arms incorporating a charge from the arms of their overlords.

    Merchants and craftsmen often included the tools of the trades in their
    arms, or an attribute of their patron saint.

    Very frequently, the family name of the original owner of the arms sounds similar to the name of one of the charges used in his arms. This practice
    is called "canting" and was extremely common in medieval armorial design. Sometimes the cant is easy to recognize: A lion for "Lyons" or a fox for "Fuchs". Sometimes it takes specialized knowledge: The fish in the arms of
    "de Lucy" is called a "lucy", an archaic name for a species of pike. The
    cant can involve more than one language: An English family "Harrison" bears
    a hedgehog, called "herisson" in Middle French.

    There are other patterns of armorial design found in one part of Europe or another, at one time or another. The more we know of the history of the
    people who originally bore the arms, we more likely we can make an
    intelligent guess as to the intent of the designer of those arms. But when
    it comes right down to it, we can very seldom know for certain.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    This MFAQ written by :
    Josh Mittleman and Francois Velde. ---------------------------------------------------------------------

    --
    François R. Velde
    velde@nospam.org (replace by "heraldica")
    Heraldica Web Site: http://www.heraldica.org/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Francois R. Velde@21:1/5 to All on Sun Aug 1 06:00:11 2021
    Summary: "What are my arms?"
    Archive-name: heraldry/mfaq
    Posting-Frequency: weekly
    Last-modified: 1997/3/25
    URL: http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/mfaq


    The Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    A common variant is:

    "Some guy in a mall told me he could look up my name in a database
    and tell me my family arms? Can I trust him?"

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers these questions. We've noticed that these questions
    are usually asked by people from the US, so the answers are intended to fit
    the US context.

    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    The short answer is this: Your family probably has no coat of arms. Most families don't. Discovering whether _your_ family has arms is a
    time-consuming problem in genealogy. Anyone who claims to be able to find
    your arms simply by looking in a book or a database is either ignorant or lying.


    To explain in more detail, we have to clear up some misconceptions:

    * There is no such thing as "the arms of Smith". Arms are associated with families or lineages. A coat was inherited by a child from his parent,
    either intact or somewhat modified. But any individual's claim to use a specific historical coat of arms rests on a family link with someone acknowledged to have used those arms.

    * Many unrelated families share the same surname. (There are 2.5 million Americans named "Smith".) Sharing a surname does not mean that you share
    the right to the same arms.

    * Conversely, many families with different names have the same coat of
    arms. A coat of arms does not uniquely identify a family.

    * A fairly small fraction of society ever used coats of arms at any time.
    Only a few Smith families actually bore arms. Arms were used throughout
    the social scale, but much moreso at the top than at the bottom. Most Americans are descended from lower-class immigrants. Statistically, then,
    the chance that an immigrant ancestor of yours bore arms is not very high.

    * No one on Earth has a complete record of all coats of arms used or
    granted throughout history.

    Therefore, if your name is Smith, and a book or a guy in a mall shows you a coat of arms with the name Smith under it, that proves nothing at all. You
    are just as likely to be related to the founder of the Virginia colony, or
    the Scottish economist, or the nephew of Senator Kennedy, or none of the
    above. The guy in the mall with the database is fudging these issues and trying to sell you a pig in a poke. His database is certainly incomplete
    and probably very inaccurate, and he doesn't care about pedigrees. He is
    just out to exploit the similarity between your name and some name in his database.

    In order to determine what your arms are, we would need much more than your name: We would need your pedigree traced back to someone who used a coat of arms. The standard of proof will vary with the needs: If you are of
    Scottish descent and wish to matriculate arms with the Scottish heraldic authority, you'd better have a well-documented pedigree, probably
    stretching over several centuries. If you only want to use arms for
    yourself in a country such as the USA where heraldry is unregulated, then
    it is just a matter of satisfying yourself. Strictly genealogical matters
    are best discussed in the soc.genealogy.* hierarchy.

    On the other hand, if you do live in a country where heraldry is
    unregulated, you are free to choose arms for yourself. You can choose any
    arms you want, whether or not your family relationships entitle you to
    those arms. You may decide to choose unique arms, created especially for
    you, or borrow arms from some existing family. Some people consider it bad taste to use existing arms if you cannot prove your descent from the family that bore them. In any case, it behooves you to acquaint yourself with heraldry, its rules and its aesthetics, so that you can design, or have designed for you, a coat that pleases you and others as well.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.


    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers this question.

    The short answer is that there are no systematic meanings assigned to the charges and tinctures in arms. There is no way to look at a set of arms
    and decypher the original designer's intended symbolism.

    At various times in the history of heraldry -- mostly between the 16th and early 19th centuries, and mostly in England -- various authors tried to
    create systems of meaning for every charge and tincture in arms. Some of
    them went so far as to claim that their system had _always_ been in use,
    and therefore that the symbolism of ancient arms could be deduced from
    their charts. It was all bunk. Some heralds probably did design arms according to one or another of these systems -- which aren't consistent, by
    the way -- but we have no way of know, in general, when this was done.

    In some instances, the heraldic designer left us notes explaining why he
    chose certain charges for someone's arms. Designer's notes are almost
    standard in modern cases, but as you look further back in history, they
    quickly become an exceptional rarity. We do have a few amusing early
    examples. One herald from the Tudor period, for example, left us the information that he provided a particular knight with arms featuring an ox because the knight had been castrated in battle.

    In the absense of specific information about a set of arms, we can only
    guess what symbolism was intended by the designer. Of course, we can make informed guesses.

    Some charges are easy: Crosses were probably always intended to express Christian devotion. Lions and eagles have always represented nobility.
    And there is a small number of charges which always have a particular
    meaning: the red hand of Ulster, the royal tressure of Scotland, etc.
    But when we look at more common charges or at tinctures, there is no
    general answer.

    To go further, you need to research the person who bore the arms and the circumstances under which he received or adopted them. This research may reveal other clues to the motives of the designer.

    For example, we might find that the arms are a variant of arms held by a related family. This practice is called "cadency" and is quite common in medieval armory. A similar practice might be called "feudal cadency"; some minor noblemen adopted arms incorporating a charge from the arms of their overlords.

    Merchants and craftsmen often included the tools of the trades in their
    arms, or an attribute of their patron saint.

    Very frequently, the family name of the original owner of the arms sounds similar to the name of one of the charges used in his arms. This practice
    is called "canting" and was extremely common in medieval armorial design. Sometimes the cant is easy to recognize: A lion for "Lyons" or a fox for "Fuchs". Sometimes it takes specialized knowledge: The fish in the arms of
    "de Lucy" is called a "lucy", an archaic name for a species of pike. The
    cant can involve more than one language: An English family "Harrison" bears
    a hedgehog, called "herisson" in Middle French.

    There are other patterns of armorial design found in one part of Europe or another, at one time or another. The more we know of the history of the
    people who originally bore the arms, we more likely we can make an
    intelligent guess as to the intent of the designer of those arms. But when
    it comes right down to it, we can very seldom know for certain.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    This MFAQ written by :
    Josh Mittleman and Francois Velde. ---------------------------------------------------------------------

    --
    François R. Velde
    velde@nospam.org (replace by "heraldica")
    Heraldica Web Site: http://www.heraldica.org/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Francois R. Velde@21:1/5 to All on Wed Sep 1 06:00:06 2021
    Summary: "What are my arms?"
    Archive-name: heraldry/mfaq
    Posting-Frequency: weekly
    Last-modified: 1997/3/25
    URL: http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/mfaq


    The Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    A common variant is:

    "Some guy in a mall told me he could look up my name in a database
    and tell me my family arms? Can I trust him?"

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers these questions. We've noticed that these questions
    are usually asked by people from the US, so the answers are intended to fit
    the US context.

    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    The short answer is this: Your family probably has no coat of arms. Most families don't. Discovering whether _your_ family has arms is a
    time-consuming problem in genealogy. Anyone who claims to be able to find
    your arms simply by looking in a book or a database is either ignorant or lying.


    To explain in more detail, we have to clear up some misconceptions:

    * There is no such thing as "the arms of Smith". Arms are associated with families or lineages. A coat was inherited by a child from his parent,
    either intact or somewhat modified. But any individual's claim to use a specific historical coat of arms rests on a family link with someone acknowledged to have used those arms.

    * Many unrelated families share the same surname. (There are 2.5 million Americans named "Smith".) Sharing a surname does not mean that you share
    the right to the same arms.

    * Conversely, many families with different names have the same coat of
    arms. A coat of arms does not uniquely identify a family.

    * A fairly small fraction of society ever used coats of arms at any time.
    Only a few Smith families actually bore arms. Arms were used throughout
    the social scale, but much moreso at the top than at the bottom. Most Americans are descended from lower-class immigrants. Statistically, then,
    the chance that an immigrant ancestor of yours bore arms is not very high.

    * No one on Earth has a complete record of all coats of arms used or
    granted throughout history.

    Therefore, if your name is Smith, and a book or a guy in a mall shows you a coat of arms with the name Smith under it, that proves nothing at all. You
    are just as likely to be related to the founder of the Virginia colony, or
    the Scottish economist, or the nephew of Senator Kennedy, or none of the
    above. The guy in the mall with the database is fudging these issues and trying to sell you a pig in a poke. His database is certainly incomplete
    and probably very inaccurate, and he doesn't care about pedigrees. He is
    just out to exploit the similarity between your name and some name in his database.

    In order to determine what your arms are, we would need much more than your name: We would need your pedigree traced back to someone who used a coat of arms. The standard of proof will vary with the needs: If you are of
    Scottish descent and wish to matriculate arms with the Scottish heraldic authority, you'd better have a well-documented pedigree, probably
    stretching over several centuries. If you only want to use arms for
    yourself in a country such as the USA where heraldry is unregulated, then
    it is just a matter of satisfying yourself. Strictly genealogical matters
    are best discussed in the soc.genealogy.* hierarchy.

    On the other hand, if you do live in a country where heraldry is
    unregulated, you are free to choose arms for yourself. You can choose any
    arms you want, whether or not your family relationships entitle you to
    those arms. You may decide to choose unique arms, created especially for
    you, or borrow arms from some existing family. Some people consider it bad taste to use existing arms if you cannot prove your descent from the family that bore them. In any case, it behooves you to acquaint yourself with heraldry, its rules and its aesthetics, so that you can design, or have designed for you, a coat that pleases you and others as well.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.


    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers this question.

    The short answer is that there are no systematic meanings assigned to the charges and tinctures in arms. There is no way to look at a set of arms
    and decypher the original designer's intended symbolism.

    At various times in the history of heraldry -- mostly between the 16th and early 19th centuries, and mostly in England -- various authors tried to
    create systems of meaning for every charge and tincture in arms. Some of
    them went so far as to claim that their system had _always_ been in use,
    and therefore that the symbolism of ancient arms could be deduced from
    their charts. It was all bunk. Some heralds probably did design arms according to one or another of these systems -- which aren't consistent, by
    the way -- but we have no way of know, in general, when this was done.

    In some instances, the heraldic designer left us notes explaining why he
    chose certain charges for someone's arms. Designer's notes are almost
    standard in modern cases, but as you look further back in history, they
    quickly become an exceptional rarity. We do have a few amusing early
    examples. One herald from the Tudor period, for example, left us the information that he provided a particular knight with arms featuring an ox because the knight had been castrated in battle.

    In the absense of specific information about a set of arms, we can only
    guess what symbolism was intended by the designer. Of course, we can make informed guesses.

    Some charges are easy: Crosses were probably always intended to express Christian devotion. Lions and eagles have always represented nobility.
    And there is a small number of charges which always have a particular
    meaning: the red hand of Ulster, the royal tressure of Scotland, etc.
    But when we look at more common charges or at tinctures, there is no
    general answer.

    To go further, you need to research the person who bore the arms and the circumstances under which he received or adopted them. This research may reveal other clues to the motives of the designer.

    For example, we might find that the arms are a variant of arms held by a related family. This practice is called "cadency" and is quite common in medieval armory. A similar practice might be called "feudal cadency"; some minor noblemen adopted arms incorporating a charge from the arms of their overlords.

    Merchants and craftsmen often included the tools of the trades in their
    arms, or an attribute of their patron saint.

    Very frequently, the family name of the original owner of the arms sounds similar to the name of one of the charges used in his arms. This practice
    is called "canting" and was extremely common in medieval armorial design. Sometimes the cant is easy to recognize: A lion for "Lyons" or a fox for "Fuchs". Sometimes it takes specialized knowledge: The fish in the arms of
    "de Lucy" is called a "lucy", an archaic name for a species of pike. The
    cant can involve more than one language: An English family "Harrison" bears
    a hedgehog, called "herisson" in Middle French.

    There are other patterns of armorial design found in one part of Europe or another, at one time or another. The more we know of the history of the
    people who originally bore the arms, we more likely we can make an
    intelligent guess as to the intent of the designer of those arms. But when
    it comes right down to it, we can very seldom know for certain.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    This MFAQ written by :
    Josh Mittleman and Francois Velde. ---------------------------------------------------------------------

    --
    François R. Velde
    velde@nospam.org (replace by "heraldica")
    Heraldica Web Site: http://www.heraldica.org/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Francois R. Velde@21:1/5 to All on Fri Oct 1 06:00:03 2021
    Summary: "What are my arms?"
    Archive-name: heraldry/mfaq
    Posting-Frequency: weekly
    Last-modified: 1997/3/25
    URL: http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/mfaq


    The Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    A common variant is:

    "Some guy in a mall told me he could look up my name in a database
    and tell me my family arms? Can I trust him?"

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers these questions. We've noticed that these questions
    are usually asked by people from the US, so the answers are intended to fit
    the US context.

    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    The short answer is this: Your family probably has no coat of arms. Most families don't. Discovering whether _your_ family has arms is a
    time-consuming problem in genealogy. Anyone who claims to be able to find
    your arms simply by looking in a book or a database is either ignorant or lying.


    To explain in more detail, we have to clear up some misconceptions:

    * There is no such thing as "the arms of Smith". Arms are associated with families or lineages. A coat was inherited by a child from his parent,
    either intact or somewhat modified. But any individual's claim to use a specific historical coat of arms rests on a family link with someone acknowledged to have used those arms.

    * Many unrelated families share the same surname. (There are 2.5 million Americans named "Smith".) Sharing a surname does not mean that you share
    the right to the same arms.

    * Conversely, many families with different names have the same coat of
    arms. A coat of arms does not uniquely identify a family.

    * A fairly small fraction of society ever used coats of arms at any time.
    Only a few Smith families actually bore arms. Arms were used throughout
    the social scale, but much moreso at the top than at the bottom. Most Americans are descended from lower-class immigrants. Statistically, then,
    the chance that an immigrant ancestor of yours bore arms is not very high.

    * No one on Earth has a complete record of all coats of arms used or
    granted throughout history.

    Therefore, if your name is Smith, and a book or a guy in a mall shows you a coat of arms with the name Smith under it, that proves nothing at all. You
    are just as likely to be related to the founder of the Virginia colony, or
    the Scottish economist, or the nephew of Senator Kennedy, or none of the
    above. The guy in the mall with the database is fudging these issues and trying to sell you a pig in a poke. His database is certainly incomplete
    and probably very inaccurate, and he doesn't care about pedigrees. He is
    just out to exploit the similarity between your name and some name in his database.

    In order to determine what your arms are, we would need much more than your name: We would need your pedigree traced back to someone who used a coat of arms. The standard of proof will vary with the needs: If you are of
    Scottish descent and wish to matriculate arms with the Scottish heraldic authority, you'd better have a well-documented pedigree, probably
    stretching over several centuries. If you only want to use arms for
    yourself in a country such as the USA where heraldry is unregulated, then
    it is just a matter of satisfying yourself. Strictly genealogical matters
    are best discussed in the soc.genealogy.* hierarchy.

    On the other hand, if you do live in a country where heraldry is
    unregulated, you are free to choose arms for yourself. You can choose any
    arms you want, whether or not your family relationships entitle you to
    those arms. You may decide to choose unique arms, created especially for
    you, or borrow arms from some existing family. Some people consider it bad taste to use existing arms if you cannot prove your descent from the family that bore them. In any case, it behooves you to acquaint yourself with heraldry, its rules and its aesthetics, so that you can design, or have designed for you, a coat that pleases you and others as well.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.


    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers this question.

    The short answer is that there are no systematic meanings assigned to the charges and tinctures in arms. There is no way to look at a set of arms
    and decypher the original designer's intended symbolism.

    At various times in the history of heraldry -- mostly between the 16th and early 19th centuries, and mostly in England -- various authors tried to
    create systems of meaning for every charge and tincture in arms. Some of
    them went so far as to claim that their system had _always_ been in use,
    and therefore that the symbolism of ancient arms could be deduced from
    their charts. It was all bunk. Some heralds probably did design arms according to one or another of these systems -- which aren't consistent, by
    the way -- but we have no way of know, in general, when this was done.

    In some instances, the heraldic designer left us notes explaining why he
    chose certain charges for someone's arms. Designer's notes are almost
    standard in modern cases, but as you look further back in history, they
    quickly become an exceptional rarity. We do have a few amusing early
    examples. One herald from the Tudor period, for example, left us the information that he provided a particular knight with arms featuring an ox because the knight had been castrated in battle.

    In the absense of specific information about a set of arms, we can only
    guess what symbolism was intended by the designer. Of course, we can make informed guesses.

    Some charges are easy: Crosses were probably always intended to express Christian devotion. Lions and eagles have always represented nobility.
    And there is a small number of charges which always have a particular
    meaning: the red hand of Ulster, the royal tressure of Scotland, etc.
    But when we look at more common charges or at tinctures, there is no
    general answer.

    To go further, you need to research the person who bore the arms and the circumstances under which he received or adopted them. This research may reveal other clues to the motives of the designer.

    For example, we might find that the arms are a variant of arms held by a related family. This practice is called "cadency" and is quite common in medieval armory. A similar practice might be called "feudal cadency"; some minor noblemen adopted arms incorporating a charge from the arms of their overlords.

    Merchants and craftsmen often included the tools of the trades in their
    arms, or an attribute of their patron saint.

    Very frequently, the family name of the original owner of the arms sounds similar to the name of one of the charges used in his arms. This practice
    is called "canting" and was extremely common in medieval armorial design. Sometimes the cant is easy to recognize: A lion for "Lyons" or a fox for "Fuchs". Sometimes it takes specialized knowledge: The fish in the arms of
    "de Lucy" is called a "lucy", an archaic name for a species of pike. The
    cant can involve more than one language: An English family "Harrison" bears
    a hedgehog, called "herisson" in Middle French.

    There are other patterns of armorial design found in one part of Europe or another, at one time or another. The more we know of the history of the
    people who originally bore the arms, we more likely we can make an
    intelligent guess as to the intent of the designer of those arms. But when
    it comes right down to it, we can very seldom know for certain.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    This MFAQ written by :
    Josh Mittleman and Francois Velde. ---------------------------------------------------------------------

    --
    François R. Velde
    velde@nospam.org (replace by "heraldica")
    Heraldica Web Site: http://www.heraldica.org/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Francois R. Velde@21:1/5 to All on Mon Nov 1 06:00:03 2021
    Summary: "What are my arms?"
    Archive-name: heraldry/mfaq
    Posting-Frequency: weekly
    Last-modified: 1997/3/25
    URL: http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/mfaq


    The Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    A common variant is:

    "Some guy in a mall told me he could look up my name in a database
    and tell me my family arms? Can I trust him?"

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers these questions. We've noticed that these questions
    are usually asked by people from the US, so the answers are intended to fit
    the US context.

    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    The short answer is this: Your family probably has no coat of arms. Most families don't. Discovering whether _your_ family has arms is a
    time-consuming problem in genealogy. Anyone who claims to be able to find
    your arms simply by looking in a book or a database is either ignorant or lying.


    To explain in more detail, we have to clear up some misconceptions:

    * There is no such thing as "the arms of Smith". Arms are associated with families or lineages. A coat was inherited by a child from his parent,
    either intact or somewhat modified. But any individual's claim to use a specific historical coat of arms rests on a family link with someone acknowledged to have used those arms.

    * Many unrelated families share the same surname. (There are 2.5 million Americans named "Smith".) Sharing a surname does not mean that you share
    the right to the same arms.

    * Conversely, many families with different names have the same coat of
    arms. A coat of arms does not uniquely identify a family.

    * A fairly small fraction of society ever used coats of arms at any time.
    Only a few Smith families actually bore arms. Arms were used throughout
    the social scale, but much moreso at the top than at the bottom. Most Americans are descended from lower-class immigrants. Statistically, then,
    the chance that an immigrant ancestor of yours bore arms is not very high.

    * No one on Earth has a complete record of all coats of arms used or
    granted throughout history.

    Therefore, if your name is Smith, and a book or a guy in a mall shows you a coat of arms with the name Smith under it, that proves nothing at all. You
    are just as likely to be related to the founder of the Virginia colony, or
    the Scottish economist, or the nephew of Senator Kennedy, or none of the
    above. The guy in the mall with the database is fudging these issues and trying to sell you a pig in a poke. His database is certainly incomplete
    and probably very inaccurate, and he doesn't care about pedigrees. He is
    just out to exploit the similarity between your name and some name in his database.

    In order to determine what your arms are, we would need much more than your name: We would need your pedigree traced back to someone who used a coat of arms. The standard of proof will vary with the needs: If you are of
    Scottish descent and wish to matriculate arms with the Scottish heraldic authority, you'd better have a well-documented pedigree, probably
    stretching over several centuries. If you only want to use arms for
    yourself in a country such as the USA where heraldry is unregulated, then
    it is just a matter of satisfying yourself. Strictly genealogical matters
    are best discussed in the soc.genealogy.* hierarchy.

    On the other hand, if you do live in a country where heraldry is
    unregulated, you are free to choose arms for yourself. You can choose any
    arms you want, whether or not your family relationships entitle you to
    those arms. You may decide to choose unique arms, created especially for
    you, or borrow arms from some existing family. Some people consider it bad taste to use existing arms if you cannot prove your descent from the family that bore them. In any case, it behooves you to acquaint yourself with heraldry, its rules and its aesthetics, so that you can design, or have designed for you, a coat that pleases you and others as well.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.


    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers this question.

    The short answer is that there are no systematic meanings assigned to the charges and tinctures in arms. There is no way to look at a set of arms
    and decypher the original designer's intended symbolism.

    At various times in the history of heraldry -- mostly between the 16th and early 19th centuries, and mostly in England -- various authors tried to
    create systems of meaning for every charge and tincture in arms. Some of
    them went so far as to claim that their system had _always_ been in use,
    and therefore that the symbolism of ancient arms could be deduced from
    their charts. It was all bunk. Some heralds probably did design arms according to one or another of these systems -- which aren't consistent, by
    the way -- but we have no way of know, in general, when this was done.

    In some instances, the heraldic designer left us notes explaining why he
    chose certain charges for someone's arms. Designer's notes are almost
    standard in modern cases, but as you look further back in history, they
    quickly become an exceptional rarity. We do have a few amusing early
    examples. One herald from the Tudor period, for example, left us the information that he provided a particular knight with arms featuring an ox because the knight had been castrated in battle.

    In the absense of specific information about a set of arms, we can only
    guess what symbolism was intended by the designer. Of course, we can make informed guesses.

    Some charges are easy: Crosses were probably always intended to express Christian devotion. Lions and eagles have always represented nobility.
    And there is a small number of charges which always have a particular
    meaning: the red hand of Ulster, the royal tressure of Scotland, etc.
    But when we look at more common charges or at tinctures, there is no
    general answer.

    To go further, you need to research the person who bore the arms and the circumstances under which he received or adopted them. This research may reveal other clues to the motives of the designer.

    For example, we might find that the arms are a variant of arms held by a related family. This practice is called "cadency" and is quite common in medieval armory. A similar practice might be called "feudal cadency"; some minor noblemen adopted arms incorporating a charge from the arms of their overlords.

    Merchants and craftsmen often included the tools of the trades in their
    arms, or an attribute of their patron saint.

    Very frequently, the family name of the original owner of the arms sounds similar to the name of one of the charges used in his arms. This practice
    is called "canting" and was extremely common in medieval armorial design. Sometimes the cant is easy to recognize: A lion for "Lyons" or a fox for "Fuchs". Sometimes it takes specialized knowledge: The fish in the arms of
    "de Lucy" is called a "lucy", an archaic name for a species of pike. The
    cant can involve more than one language: An English family "Harrison" bears
    a hedgehog, called "herisson" in Middle French.

    There are other patterns of armorial design found in one part of Europe or another, at one time or another. The more we know of the history of the
    people who originally bore the arms, we more likely we can make an
    intelligent guess as to the intent of the designer of those arms. But when
    it comes right down to it, we can very seldom know for certain.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    This MFAQ written by :
    Josh Mittleman and Francois Velde. ---------------------------------------------------------------------

    --
    François R. Velde
    velde@nospam.org (replace by "heraldica")
    Heraldica Web Site: http://www.heraldica.org/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Francois R. Velde@21:1/5 to All on Wed Dec 1 07:00:06 2021
    Summary: "What are my arms?"
    Archive-name: heraldry/mfaq
    Posting-Frequency: weekly
    Last-modified: 1997/3/25
    URL: http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/mfaq


    The Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    A common variant is:

    "Some guy in a mall told me he could look up my name in a database
    and tell me my family arms? Can I trust him?"

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers these questions. We've noticed that these questions
    are usually asked by people from the US, so the answers are intended to fit
    the US context.

    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    The short answer is this: Your family probably has no coat of arms. Most families don't. Discovering whether _your_ family has arms is a
    time-consuming problem in genealogy. Anyone who claims to be able to find
    your arms simply by looking in a book or a database is either ignorant or lying.


    To explain in more detail, we have to clear up some misconceptions:

    * There is no such thing as "the arms of Smith". Arms are associated with families or lineages. A coat was inherited by a child from his parent,
    either intact or somewhat modified. But any individual's claim to use a specific historical coat of arms rests on a family link with someone acknowledged to have used those arms.

    * Many unrelated families share the same surname. (There are 2.5 million Americans named "Smith".) Sharing a surname does not mean that you share
    the right to the same arms.

    * Conversely, many families with different names have the same coat of
    arms. A coat of arms does not uniquely identify a family.

    * A fairly small fraction of society ever used coats of arms at any time.
    Only a few Smith families actually bore arms. Arms were used throughout
    the social scale, but much moreso at the top than at the bottom. Most Americans are descended from lower-class immigrants. Statistically, then,
    the chance that an immigrant ancestor of yours bore arms is not very high.

    * No one on Earth has a complete record of all coats of arms used or
    granted throughout history.

    Therefore, if your name is Smith, and a book or a guy in a mall shows you a coat of arms with the name Smith under it, that proves nothing at all. You
    are just as likely to be related to the founder of the Virginia colony, or
    the Scottish economist, or the nephew of Senator Kennedy, or none of the
    above. The guy in the mall with the database is fudging these issues and trying to sell you a pig in a poke. His database is certainly incomplete
    and probably very inaccurate, and he doesn't care about pedigrees. He is
    just out to exploit the similarity between your name and some name in his database.

    In order to determine what your arms are, we would need much more than your name: We would need your pedigree traced back to someone who used a coat of arms. The standard of proof will vary with the needs: If you are of
    Scottish descent and wish to matriculate arms with the Scottish heraldic authority, you'd better have a well-documented pedigree, probably
    stretching over several centuries. If you only want to use arms for
    yourself in a country such as the USA where heraldry is unregulated, then
    it is just a matter of satisfying yourself. Strictly genealogical matters
    are best discussed in the soc.genealogy.* hierarchy.

    On the other hand, if you do live in a country where heraldry is
    unregulated, you are free to choose arms for yourself. You can choose any
    arms you want, whether or not your family relationships entitle you to
    those arms. You may decide to choose unique arms, created especially for
    you, or borrow arms from some existing family. Some people consider it bad taste to use existing arms if you cannot prove your descent from the family that bore them. In any case, it behooves you to acquaint yourself with heraldry, its rules and its aesthetics, so that you can design, or have designed for you, a coat that pleases you and others as well.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.


    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers this question.

    The short answer is that there are no systematic meanings assigned to the charges and tinctures in arms. There is no way to look at a set of arms
    and decypher the original designer's intended symbolism.

    At various times in the history of heraldry -- mostly between the 16th and early 19th centuries, and mostly in England -- various authors tried to
    create systems of meaning for every charge and tincture in arms. Some of
    them went so far as to claim that their system had _always_ been in use,
    and therefore that the symbolism of ancient arms could be deduced from
    their charts. It was all bunk. Some heralds probably did design arms according to one or another of these systems -- which aren't consistent, by
    the way -- but we have no way of know, in general, when this was done.

    In some instances, the heraldic designer left us notes explaining why he
    chose certain charges for someone's arms. Designer's notes are almost
    standard in modern cases, but as you look further back in history, they
    quickly become an exceptional rarity. We do have a few amusing early
    examples. One herald from the Tudor period, for example, left us the information that he provided a particular knight with arms featuring an ox because the knight had been castrated in battle.

    In the absense of specific information about a set of arms, we can only
    guess what symbolism was intended by the designer. Of course, we can make informed guesses.

    Some charges are easy: Crosses were probably always intended to express Christian devotion. Lions and eagles have always represented nobility.
    And there is a small number of charges which always have a particular
    meaning: the red hand of Ulster, the royal tressure of Scotland, etc.
    But when we look at more common charges or at tinctures, there is no
    general answer.

    To go further, you need to research the person who bore the arms and the circumstances under which he received or adopted them. This research may reveal other clues to the motives of the designer.

    For example, we might find that the arms are a variant of arms held by a related family. This practice is called "cadency" and is quite common in medieval armory. A similar practice might be called "feudal cadency"; some minor noblemen adopted arms incorporating a charge from the arms of their overlords.

    Merchants and craftsmen often included the tools of the trades in their
    arms, or an attribute of their patron saint.

    Very frequently, the family name of the original owner of the arms sounds similar to the name of one of the charges used in his arms. This practice
    is called "canting" and was extremely common in medieval armorial design. Sometimes the cant is easy to recognize: A lion for "Lyons" or a fox for "Fuchs". Sometimes it takes specialized knowledge: The fish in the arms of
    "de Lucy" is called a "lucy", an archaic name for a species of pike. The
    cant can involve more than one language: An English family "Harrison" bears
    a hedgehog, called "herisson" in Middle French.

    There are other patterns of armorial design found in one part of Europe or another, at one time or another. The more we know of the history of the
    people who originally bore the arms, we more likely we can make an
    intelligent guess as to the intent of the designer of those arms. But when
    it comes right down to it, we can very seldom know for certain.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    This MFAQ written by :
    Josh Mittleman and Francois Velde. ---------------------------------------------------------------------

    --
    François R. Velde
    velde@nospam.org (replace by "heraldica")
    Heraldica Web Site: http://www.heraldica.org/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Francois R. Velde@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jan 1 07:00:11 2022
    Summary: "What are my arms?"
    Archive-name: heraldry/mfaq
    Posting-Frequency: weekly
    Last-modified: 1997/3/25
    URL: http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/mfaq


    The Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    A common variant is:

    "Some guy in a mall told me he could look up my name in a database
    and tell me my family arms? Can I trust him?"

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers these questions. We've noticed that these questions
    are usually asked by people from the US, so the answers are intended to fit
    the US context.

    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    The short answer is this: Your family probably has no coat of arms. Most families don't. Discovering whether _your_ family has arms is a
    time-consuming problem in genealogy. Anyone who claims to be able to find
    your arms simply by looking in a book or a database is either ignorant or lying.


    To explain in more detail, we have to clear up some misconceptions:

    * There is no such thing as "the arms of Smith". Arms are associated with families or lineages. A coat was inherited by a child from his parent,
    either intact or somewhat modified. But any individual's claim to use a specific historical coat of arms rests on a family link with someone acknowledged to have used those arms.

    * Many unrelated families share the same surname. (There are 2.5 million Americans named "Smith".) Sharing a surname does not mean that you share
    the right to the same arms.

    * Conversely, many families with different names have the same coat of
    arms. A coat of arms does not uniquely identify a family.

    * A fairly small fraction of society ever used coats of arms at any time.
    Only a few Smith families actually bore arms. Arms were used throughout
    the social scale, but much moreso at the top than at the bottom. Most Americans are descended from lower-class immigrants. Statistically, then,
    the chance that an immigrant ancestor of yours bore arms is not very high.

    * No one on Earth has a complete record of all coats of arms used or
    granted throughout history.

    Therefore, if your name is Smith, and a book or a guy in a mall shows you a coat of arms with the name Smith under it, that proves nothing at all. You
    are just as likely to be related to the founder of the Virginia colony, or
    the Scottish economist, or the nephew of Senator Kennedy, or none of the
    above. The guy in the mall with the database is fudging these issues and trying to sell you a pig in a poke. His database is certainly incomplete
    and probably very inaccurate, and he doesn't care about pedigrees. He is
    just out to exploit the similarity between your name and some name in his database.

    In order to determine what your arms are, we would need much more than your name: We would need your pedigree traced back to someone who used a coat of arms. The standard of proof will vary with the needs: If you are of
    Scottish descent and wish to matriculate arms with the Scottish heraldic authority, you'd better have a well-documented pedigree, probably
    stretching over several centuries. If you only want to use arms for
    yourself in a country such as the USA where heraldry is unregulated, then
    it is just a matter of satisfying yourself. Strictly genealogical matters
    are best discussed in the soc.genealogy.* hierarchy.

    On the other hand, if you do live in a country where heraldry is
    unregulated, you are free to choose arms for yourself. You can choose any
    arms you want, whether or not your family relationships entitle you to
    those arms. You may decide to choose unique arms, created especially for
    you, or borrow arms from some existing family. Some people consider it bad taste to use existing arms if you cannot prove your descent from the family that bore them. In any case, it behooves you to acquaint yourself with heraldry, its rules and its aesthetics, so that you can design, or have designed for you, a coat that pleases you and others as well.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.


    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers this question.

    The short answer is that there are no systematic meanings assigned to the charges and tinctures in arms. There is no way to look at a set of arms
    and decypher the original designer's intended symbolism.

    At various times in the history of heraldry -- mostly between the 16th and early 19th centuries, and mostly in England -- various authors tried to
    create systems of meaning for every charge and tincture in arms. Some of
    them went so far as to claim that their system had _always_ been in use,
    and therefore that the symbolism of ancient arms could be deduced from
    their charts. It was all bunk. Some heralds probably did design arms according to one or another of these systems -- which aren't consistent, by
    the way -- but we have no way of know, in general, when this was done.

    In some instances, the heraldic designer left us notes explaining why he
    chose certain charges for someone's arms. Designer's notes are almost
    standard in modern cases, but as you look further back in history, they
    quickly become an exceptional rarity. We do have a few amusing early
    examples. One herald from the Tudor period, for example, left us the information that he provided a particular knight with arms featuring an ox because the knight had been castrated in battle.

    In the absense of specific information about a set of arms, we can only
    guess what symbolism was intended by the designer. Of course, we can make informed guesses.

    Some charges are easy: Crosses were probably always intended to express Christian devotion. Lions and eagles have always represented nobility.
    And there is a small number of charges which always have a particular
    meaning: the red hand of Ulster, the royal tressure of Scotland, etc.
    But when we look at more common charges or at tinctures, there is no
    general answer.

    To go further, you need to research the person who bore the arms and the circumstances under which he received or adopted them. This research may reveal other clues to the motives of the designer.

    For example, we might find that the arms are a variant of arms held by a related family. This practice is called "cadency" and is quite common in medieval armory. A similar practice might be called "feudal cadency"; some minor noblemen adopted arms incorporating a charge from the arms of their overlords.

    Merchants and craftsmen often included the tools of the trades in their
    arms, or an attribute of their patron saint.

    Very frequently, the family name of the original owner of the arms sounds similar to the name of one of the charges used in his arms. This practice
    is called "canting" and was extremely common in medieval armorial design. Sometimes the cant is easy to recognize: A lion for "Lyons" or a fox for "Fuchs". Sometimes it takes specialized knowledge: The fish in the arms of
    "de Lucy" is called a "lucy", an archaic name for a species of pike. The
    cant can involve more than one language: An English family "Harrison" bears
    a hedgehog, called "herisson" in Middle French.

    There are other patterns of armorial design found in one part of Europe or another, at one time or another. The more we know of the history of the
    people who originally bore the arms, we more likely we can make an
    intelligent guess as to the intent of the designer of those arms. But when
    it comes right down to it, we can very seldom know for certain.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    This MFAQ written by :
    Josh Mittleman and Francois Velde. ---------------------------------------------------------------------

    --
    François R. Velde
    velde@nospam.org (replace by "heraldica")
    Heraldica Web Site: http://www.heraldica.org/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Francois R. Velde@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 1 07:00:07 2022
    Summary: "What are my arms?"
    Archive-name: heraldry/mfaq
    Posting-Frequency: weekly
    Last-modified: 1997/3/25
    URL: http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/mfaq


    The Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    A common variant is:

    "Some guy in a mall told me he could look up my name in a database
    and tell me my family arms? Can I trust him?"

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers these questions. We've noticed that these questions
    are usually asked by people from the US, so the answers are intended to fit
    the US context.

    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    The short answer is this: Your family probably has no coat of arms. Most families don't. Discovering whether _your_ family has arms is a
    time-consuming problem in genealogy. Anyone who claims to be able to find
    your arms simply by looking in a book or a database is either ignorant or lying.


    To explain in more detail, we have to clear up some misconceptions:

    * There is no such thing as "the arms of Smith". Arms are associated with families or lineages. A coat was inherited by a child from his parent,
    either intact or somewhat modified. But any individual's claim to use a specific historical coat of arms rests on a family link with someone acknowledged to have used those arms.

    * Many unrelated families share the same surname. (There are 2.5 million Americans named "Smith".) Sharing a surname does not mean that you share
    the right to the same arms.

    * Conversely, many families with different names have the same coat of
    arms. A coat of arms does not uniquely identify a family.

    * A fairly small fraction of society ever used coats of arms at any time.
    Only a few Smith families actually bore arms. Arms were used throughout
    the social scale, but much moreso at the top than at the bottom. Most Americans are descended from lower-class immigrants. Statistically, then,
    the chance that an immigrant ancestor of yours bore arms is not very high.

    * No one on Earth has a complete record of all coats of arms used or
    granted throughout history.

    Therefore, if your name is Smith, and a book or a guy in a mall shows you a coat of arms with the name Smith under it, that proves nothing at all. You
    are just as likely to be related to the founder of the Virginia colony, or
    the Scottish economist, or the nephew of Senator Kennedy, or none of the
    above. The guy in the mall with the database is fudging these issues and trying to sell you a pig in a poke. His database is certainly incomplete
    and probably very inaccurate, and he doesn't care about pedigrees. He is
    just out to exploit the similarity between your name and some name in his database.

    In order to determine what your arms are, we would need much more than your name: We would need your pedigree traced back to someone who used a coat of arms. The standard of proof will vary with the needs: If you are of
    Scottish descent and wish to matriculate arms with the Scottish heraldic authority, you'd better have a well-documented pedigree, probably
    stretching over several centuries. If you only want to use arms for
    yourself in a country such as the USA where heraldry is unregulated, then
    it is just a matter of satisfying yourself. Strictly genealogical matters
    are best discussed in the soc.genealogy.* hierarchy.

    On the other hand, if you do live in a country where heraldry is
    unregulated, you are free to choose arms for yourself. You can choose any
    arms you want, whether or not your family relationships entitle you to
    those arms. You may decide to choose unique arms, created especially for
    you, or borrow arms from some existing family. Some people consider it bad taste to use existing arms if you cannot prove your descent from the family that bore them. In any case, it behooves you to acquaint yourself with heraldry, its rules and its aesthetics, so that you can design, or have designed for you, a coat that pleases you and others as well.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.


    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers this question.

    The short answer is that there are no systematic meanings assigned to the charges and tinctures in arms. There is no way to look at a set of arms
    and decypher the original designer's intended symbolism.

    At various times in the history of heraldry -- mostly between the 16th and early 19th centuries, and mostly in England -- various authors tried to
    create systems of meaning for every charge and tincture in arms. Some of
    them went so far as to claim that their system had _always_ been in use,
    and therefore that the symbolism of ancient arms could be deduced from
    their charts. It was all bunk. Some heralds probably did design arms according to one or another of these systems -- which aren't consistent, by
    the way -- but we have no way of know, in general, when this was done.

    In some instances, the heraldic designer left us notes explaining why he
    chose certain charges for someone's arms. Designer's notes are almost
    standard in modern cases, but as you look further back in history, they
    quickly become an exceptional rarity. We do have a few amusing early
    examples. One herald from the Tudor period, for example, left us the information that he provided a particular knight with arms featuring an ox because the knight had been castrated in battle.

    In the absense of specific information about a set of arms, we can only
    guess what symbolism was intended by the designer. Of course, we can make informed guesses.

    Some charges are easy: Crosses were probably always intended to express Christian devotion. Lions and eagles have always represented nobility.
    And there is a small number of charges which always have a particular
    meaning: the red hand of Ulster, the royal tressure of Scotland, etc.
    But when we look at more common charges or at tinctures, there is no
    general answer.

    To go further, you need to research the person who bore the arms and the circumstances under which he received or adopted them. This research may reveal other clues to the motives of the designer.

    For example, we might find that the arms are a variant of arms held by a related family. This practice is called "cadency" and is quite common in medieval armory. A similar practice might be called "feudal cadency"; some minor noblemen adopted arms incorporating a charge from the arms of their overlords.

    Merchants and craftsmen often included the tools of the trades in their
    arms, or an attribute of their patron saint.

    Very frequently, the family name of the original owner of the arms sounds similar to the name of one of the charges used in his arms. This practice
    is called "canting" and was extremely common in medieval armorial design. Sometimes the cant is easy to recognize: A lion for "Lyons" or a fox for "Fuchs". Sometimes it takes specialized knowledge: The fish in the arms of
    "de Lucy" is called a "lucy", an archaic name for a species of pike. The
    cant can involve more than one language: An English family "Harrison" bears
    a hedgehog, called "herisson" in Middle French.

    There are other patterns of armorial design found in one part of Europe or another, at one time or another. The more we know of the history of the
    people who originally bore the arms, we more likely we can make an
    intelligent guess as to the intent of the designer of those arms. But when
    it comes right down to it, we can very seldom know for certain.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    This MFAQ written by :
    Josh Mittleman and Francois Velde. ---------------------------------------------------------------------

    --
    François R. Velde
    velde@nospam.org (replace by "heraldica")
    Heraldica Web Site: http://www.heraldica.org/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Francois R. Velde@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 1 07:00:03 2022
    Summary: "What are my arms?"
    Archive-name: heraldry/mfaq
    Posting-Frequency: weekly
    Last-modified: 1997/3/25
    URL: http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/mfaq


    The Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    A common variant is:

    "Some guy in a mall told me he could look up my name in a database
    and tell me my family arms? Can I trust him?"

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers these questions. We've noticed that these questions
    are usually asked by people from the US, so the answers are intended to fit
    the US context.

    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    The short answer is this: Your family probably has no coat of arms. Most families don't. Discovering whether _your_ family has arms is a
    time-consuming problem in genealogy. Anyone who claims to be able to find
    your arms simply by looking in a book or a database is either ignorant or lying.


    To explain in more detail, we have to clear up some misconceptions:

    * There is no such thing as "the arms of Smith". Arms are associated with families or lineages. A coat was inherited by a child from his parent,
    either intact or somewhat modified. But any individual's claim to use a specific historical coat of arms rests on a family link with someone acknowledged to have used those arms.

    * Many unrelated families share the same surname. (There are 2.5 million Americans named "Smith".) Sharing a surname does not mean that you share
    the right to the same arms.

    * Conversely, many families with different names have the same coat of
    arms. A coat of arms does not uniquely identify a family.

    * A fairly small fraction of society ever used coats of arms at any time.
    Only a few Smith families actually bore arms. Arms were used throughout
    the social scale, but much moreso at the top than at the bottom. Most Americans are descended from lower-class immigrants. Statistically, then,
    the chance that an immigrant ancestor of yours bore arms is not very high.

    * No one on Earth has a complete record of all coats of arms used or
    granted throughout history.

    Therefore, if your name is Smith, and a book or a guy in a mall shows you a coat of arms with the name Smith under it, that proves nothing at all. You
    are just as likely to be related to the founder of the Virginia colony, or
    the Scottish economist, or the nephew of Senator Kennedy, or none of the
    above. The guy in the mall with the database is fudging these issues and trying to sell you a pig in a poke. His database is certainly incomplete
    and probably very inaccurate, and he doesn't care about pedigrees. He is
    just out to exploit the similarity between your name and some name in his database.

    In order to determine what your arms are, we would need much more than your name: We would need your pedigree traced back to someone who used a coat of arms. The standard of proof will vary with the needs: If you are of
    Scottish descent and wish to matriculate arms with the Scottish heraldic authority, you'd better have a well-documented pedigree, probably
    stretching over several centuries. If you only want to use arms for
    yourself in a country such as the USA where heraldry is unregulated, then
    it is just a matter of satisfying yourself. Strictly genealogical matters
    are best discussed in the soc.genealogy.* hierarchy.

    On the other hand, if you do live in a country where heraldry is
    unregulated, you are free to choose arms for yourself. You can choose any
    arms you want, whether or not your family relationships entitle you to
    those arms. You may decide to choose unique arms, created especially for
    you, or borrow arms from some existing family. Some people consider it bad taste to use existing arms if you cannot prove your descent from the family that bore them. In any case, it behooves you to acquaint yourself with heraldry, its rules and its aesthetics, so that you can design, or have designed for you, a coat that pleases you and others as well.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.


    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers this question.

    The short answer is that there are no systematic meanings assigned to the charges and tinctures in arms. There is no way to look at a set of arms
    and decypher the original designer's intended symbolism.

    At various times in the history of heraldry -- mostly between the 16th and early 19th centuries, and mostly in England -- various authors tried to
    create systems of meaning for every charge and tincture in arms. Some of
    them went so far as to claim that their system had _always_ been in use,
    and therefore that the symbolism of ancient arms could be deduced from
    their charts. It was all bunk. Some heralds probably did design arms according to one or another of these systems -- which aren't consistent, by
    the way -- but we have no way of know, in general, when this was done.

    In some instances, the heraldic designer left us notes explaining why he
    chose certain charges for someone's arms. Designer's notes are almost
    standard in modern cases, but as you look further back in history, they
    quickly become an exceptional rarity. We do have a few amusing early
    examples. One herald from the Tudor period, for example, left us the information that he provided a particular knight with arms featuring an ox because the knight had been castrated in battle.

    In the absense of specific information about a set of arms, we can only
    guess what symbolism was intended by the designer. Of course, we can make informed guesses.

    Some charges are easy: Crosses were probably always intended to express Christian devotion. Lions and eagles have always represented nobility.
    And there is a small number of charges which always have a particular
    meaning: the red hand of Ulster, the royal tressure of Scotland, etc.
    But when we look at more common charges or at tinctures, there is no
    general answer.

    To go further, you need to research the person who bore the arms and the circumstances under which he received or adopted them. This research may reveal other clues to the motives of the designer.

    For example, we might find that the arms are a variant of arms held by a related family. This practice is called "cadency" and is quite common in medieval armory. A similar practice might be called "feudal cadency"; some minor noblemen adopted arms incorporating a charge from the arms of their overlords.

    Merchants and craftsmen often included the tools of the trades in their
    arms, or an attribute of their patron saint.

    Very frequently, the family name of the original owner of the arms sounds similar to the name of one of the charges used in his arms. This practice
    is called "canting" and was extremely common in medieval armorial design. Sometimes the cant is easy to recognize: A lion for "Lyons" or a fox for "Fuchs". Sometimes it takes specialized knowledge: The fish in the arms of
    "de Lucy" is called a "lucy", an archaic name for a species of pike. The
    cant can involve more than one language: An English family "Harrison" bears
    a hedgehog, called "herisson" in Middle French.

    There are other patterns of armorial design found in one part of Europe or another, at one time or another. The more we know of the history of the
    people who originally bore the arms, we more likely we can make an
    intelligent guess as to the intent of the designer of those arms. But when
    it comes right down to it, we can very seldom know for certain.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    This MFAQ written by :
    Josh Mittleman and Francois Velde. ---------------------------------------------------------------------

    --
    François R. Velde
    velde@nospam.org (replace by "heraldica")
    Heraldica Web Site: http://www.heraldica.org/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Francois R. Velde@21:1/5 to All on Fri Apr 1 06:00:10 2022
    Summary: "What are my arms?"
    Archive-name: heraldry/mfaq
    Posting-Frequency: weekly
    Last-modified: 1997/3/25
    URL: http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/mfaq


    The Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    A common variant is:

    "Some guy in a mall told me he could look up my name in a database
    and tell me my family arms? Can I trust him?"

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers these questions. We've noticed that these questions
    are usually asked by people from the US, so the answers are intended to fit
    the US context.

    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    The short answer is this: Your family probably has no coat of arms. Most families don't. Discovering whether _your_ family has arms is a
    time-consuming problem in genealogy. Anyone who claims to be able to find
    your arms simply by looking in a book or a database is either ignorant or lying.


    To explain in more detail, we have to clear up some misconceptions:

    * There is no such thing as "the arms of Smith". Arms are associated with families or lineages. A coat was inherited by a child from his parent,
    either intact or somewhat modified. But any individual's claim to use a specific historical coat of arms rests on a family link with someone acknowledged to have used those arms.

    * Many unrelated families share the same surname. (There are 2.5 million Americans named "Smith".) Sharing a surname does not mean that you share
    the right to the same arms.

    * Conversely, many families with different names have the same coat of
    arms. A coat of arms does not uniquely identify a family.

    * A fairly small fraction of society ever used coats of arms at any time.
    Only a few Smith families actually bore arms. Arms were used throughout
    the social scale, but much moreso at the top than at the bottom. Most Americans are descended from lower-class immigrants. Statistically, then,
    the chance that an immigrant ancestor of yours bore arms is not very high.

    * No one on Earth has a complete record of all coats of arms used or
    granted throughout history.

    Therefore, if your name is Smith, and a book or a guy in a mall shows you a coat of arms with the name Smith under it, that proves nothing at all. You
    are just as likely to be related to the founder of the Virginia colony, or
    the Scottish economist, or the nephew of Senator Kennedy, or none of the
    above. The guy in the mall with the database is fudging these issues and trying to sell you a pig in a poke. His database is certainly incomplete
    and probably very inaccurate, and he doesn't care about pedigrees. He is
    just out to exploit the similarity between your name and some name in his database.

    In order to determine what your arms are, we would need much more than your name: We would need your pedigree traced back to someone who used a coat of arms. The standard of proof will vary with the needs: If you are of
    Scottish descent and wish to matriculate arms with the Scottish heraldic authority, you'd better have a well-documented pedigree, probably
    stretching over several centuries. If you only want to use arms for
    yourself in a country such as the USA where heraldry is unregulated, then
    it is just a matter of satisfying yourself. Strictly genealogical matters
    are best discussed in the soc.genealogy.* hierarchy.

    On the other hand, if you do live in a country where heraldry is
    unregulated, you are free to choose arms for yourself. You can choose any
    arms you want, whether or not your family relationships entitle you to
    those arms. You may decide to choose unique arms, created especially for
    you, or borrow arms from some existing family. Some people consider it bad taste to use existing arms if you cannot prove your descent from the family that bore them. In any case, it behooves you to acquaint yourself with heraldry, its rules and its aesthetics, so that you can design, or have designed for you, a coat that pleases you and others as well.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.


    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers this question.

    The short answer is that there are no systematic meanings assigned to the charges and tinctures in arms. There is no way to look at a set of arms
    and decypher the original designer's intended symbolism.

    At various times in the history of heraldry -- mostly between the 16th and early 19th centuries, and mostly in England -- various authors tried to
    create systems of meaning for every charge and tincture in arms. Some of
    them went so far as to claim that their system had _always_ been in use,
    and therefore that the symbolism of ancient arms could be deduced from
    their charts. It was all bunk. Some heralds probably did design arms according to one or another of these systems -- which aren't consistent, by
    the way -- but we have no way of know, in general, when this was done.

    In some instances, the heraldic designer left us notes explaining why he
    chose certain charges for someone's arms. Designer's notes are almost
    standard in modern cases, but as you look further back in history, they
    quickly become an exceptional rarity. We do have a few amusing early
    examples. One herald from the Tudor period, for example, left us the information that he provided a particular knight with arms featuring an ox because the knight had been castrated in battle.

    In the absense of specific information about a set of arms, we can only
    guess what symbolism was intended by the designer. Of course, we can make informed guesses.

    Some charges are easy: Crosses were probably always intended to express Christian devotion. Lions and eagles have always represented nobility.
    And there is a small number of charges which always have a particular
    meaning: the red hand of Ulster, the royal tressure of Scotland, etc.
    But when we look at more common charges or at tinctures, there is no
    general answer.

    To go further, you need to research the person who bore the arms and the circumstances under which he received or adopted them. This research may reveal other clues to the motives of the designer.

    For example, we might find that the arms are a variant of arms held by a related family. This practice is called "cadency" and is quite common in medieval armory. A similar practice might be called "feudal cadency"; some minor noblemen adopted arms incorporating a charge from the arms of their overlords.

    Merchants and craftsmen often included the tools of the trades in their
    arms, or an attribute of their patron saint.

    Very frequently, the family name of the original owner of the arms sounds similar to the name of one of the charges used in his arms. This practice
    is called "canting" and was extremely common in medieval armorial design. Sometimes the cant is easy to recognize: A lion for "Lyons" or a fox for "Fuchs". Sometimes it takes specialized knowledge: The fish in the arms of
    "de Lucy" is called a "lucy", an archaic name for a species of pike. The
    cant can involve more than one language: An English family "Harrison" bears
    a hedgehog, called "herisson" in Middle French.

    There are other patterns of armorial design found in one part of Europe or another, at one time or another. The more we know of the history of the
    people who originally bore the arms, we more likely we can make an
    intelligent guess as to the intent of the designer of those arms. But when
    it comes right down to it, we can very seldom know for certain.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    This MFAQ written by :
    Josh Mittleman and Francois Velde. ---------------------------------------------------------------------

    --
    François R. Velde
    velde@nospam.org (replace by "heraldica")
    Heraldica Web Site: http://www.heraldica.org/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Francois R. Velde@21:1/5 to All on Sun May 1 06:00:04 2022
    Summary: "What are my arms?"
    Archive-name: heraldry/mfaq
    Posting-Frequency: weekly
    Last-modified: 1997/3/25
    URL: http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/mfaq


    The Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    A common variant is:

    "Some guy in a mall told me he could look up my name in a database
    and tell me my family arms? Can I trust him?"

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers these questions. We've noticed that these questions
    are usually asked by people from the US, so the answers are intended to fit
    the US context.

    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    The short answer is this: Your family probably has no coat of arms. Most families don't. Discovering whether _your_ family has arms is a
    time-consuming problem in genealogy. Anyone who claims to be able to find
    your arms simply by looking in a book or a database is either ignorant or lying.


    To explain in more detail, we have to clear up some misconceptions:

    * There is no such thing as "the arms of Smith". Arms are associated with families or lineages. A coat was inherited by a child from his parent,
    either intact or somewhat modified. But any individual's claim to use a specific historical coat of arms rests on a family link with someone acknowledged to have used those arms.

    * Many unrelated families share the same surname. (There are 2.5 million Americans named "Smith".) Sharing a surname does not mean that you share
    the right to the same arms.

    * Conversely, many families with different names have the same coat of
    arms. A coat of arms does not uniquely identify a family.

    * A fairly small fraction of society ever used coats of arms at any time.
    Only a few Smith families actually bore arms. Arms were used throughout
    the social scale, but much moreso at the top than at the bottom. Most Americans are descended from lower-class immigrants. Statistically, then,
    the chance that an immigrant ancestor of yours bore arms is not very high.

    * No one on Earth has a complete record of all coats of arms used or
    granted throughout history.

    Therefore, if your name is Smith, and a book or a guy in a mall shows you a coat of arms with the name Smith under it, that proves nothing at all. You
    are just as likely to be related to the founder of the Virginia colony, or
    the Scottish economist, or the nephew of Senator Kennedy, or none of the
    above. The guy in the mall with the database is fudging these issues and trying to sell you a pig in a poke. His database is certainly incomplete
    and probably very inaccurate, and he doesn't care about pedigrees. He is
    just out to exploit the similarity between your name and some name in his database.

    In order to determine what your arms are, we would need much more than your name: We would need your pedigree traced back to someone who used a coat of arms. The standard of proof will vary with the needs: If you are of
    Scottish descent and wish to matriculate arms with the Scottish heraldic authority, you'd better have a well-documented pedigree, probably
    stretching over several centuries. If you only want to use arms for
    yourself in a country such as the USA where heraldry is unregulated, then
    it is just a matter of satisfying yourself. Strictly genealogical matters
    are best discussed in the soc.genealogy.* hierarchy.

    On the other hand, if you do live in a country where heraldry is
    unregulated, you are free to choose arms for yourself. You can choose any
    arms you want, whether or not your family relationships entitle you to
    those arms. You may decide to choose unique arms, created especially for
    you, or borrow arms from some existing family. Some people consider it bad taste to use existing arms if you cannot prove your descent from the family that bore them. In any case, it behooves you to acquaint yourself with heraldry, its rules and its aesthetics, so that you can design, or have designed for you, a coat that pleases you and others as well.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.


    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers this question.

    The short answer is that there are no systematic meanings assigned to the charges and tinctures in arms. There is no way to look at a set of arms
    and decypher the original designer's intended symbolism.

    At various times in the history of heraldry -- mostly between the 16th and early 19th centuries, and mostly in England -- various authors tried to
    create systems of meaning for every charge and tincture in arms. Some of
    them went so far as to claim that their system had _always_ been in use,
    and therefore that the symbolism of ancient arms could be deduced from
    their charts. It was all bunk. Some heralds probably did design arms according to one or another of these systems -- which aren't consistent, by
    the way -- but we have no way of know, in general, when this was done.

    In some instances, the heraldic designer left us notes explaining why he
    chose certain charges for someone's arms. Designer's notes are almost
    standard in modern cases, but as you look further back in history, they
    quickly become an exceptional rarity. We do have a few amusing early
    examples. One herald from the Tudor period, for example, left us the information that he provided a particular knight with arms featuring an ox because the knight had been castrated in battle.

    In the absense of specific information about a set of arms, we can only
    guess what symbolism was intended by the designer. Of course, we can make informed guesses.

    Some charges are easy: Crosses were probably always intended to express Christian devotion. Lions and eagles have always represented nobility.
    And there is a small number of charges which always have a particular
    meaning: the red hand of Ulster, the royal tressure of Scotland, etc.
    But when we look at more common charges or at tinctures, there is no
    general answer.

    To go further, you need to research the person who bore the arms and the circumstances under which he received or adopted them. This research may reveal other clues to the motives of the designer.

    For example, we might find that the arms are a variant of arms held by a related family. This practice is called "cadency" and is quite common in medieval armory. A similar practice might be called "feudal cadency"; some minor noblemen adopted arms incorporating a charge from the arms of their overlords.

    Merchants and craftsmen often included the tools of the trades in their
    arms, or an attribute of their patron saint.

    Very frequently, the family name of the original owner of the arms sounds similar to the name of one of the charges used in his arms. This practice
    is called "canting" and was extremely common in medieval armorial design. Sometimes the cant is easy to recognize: A lion for "Lyons" or a fox for "Fuchs". Sometimes it takes specialized knowledge: The fish in the arms of
    "de Lucy" is called a "lucy", an archaic name for a species of pike. The
    cant can involve more than one language: An English family "Harrison" bears
    a hedgehog, called "herisson" in Middle French.

    There are other patterns of armorial design found in one part of Europe or another, at one time or another. The more we know of the history of the
    people who originally bore the arms, we more likely we can make an
    intelligent guess as to the intent of the designer of those arms. But when
    it comes right down to it, we can very seldom know for certain.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    This MFAQ written by :
    Josh Mittleman and Francois Velde. ---------------------------------------------------------------------

    --
    François R. Velde
    velde@nospam.org (replace by "heraldica")
    Heraldica Web Site: http://www.heraldica.org/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Francois R. Velde@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 1 06:00:05 2022
    Summary: "What are my arms?"
    Archive-name: heraldry/mfaq
    Posting-Frequency: weekly
    Last-modified: 1997/3/25
    URL: http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/mfaq


    The Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    A common variant is:

    "Some guy in a mall told me he could look up my name in a database
    and tell me my family arms? Can I trust him?"

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers these questions. We've noticed that these questions
    are usually asked by people from the US, so the answers are intended to fit
    the US context.

    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    The short answer is this: Your family probably has no coat of arms. Most families don't. Discovering whether _your_ family has arms is a
    time-consuming problem in genealogy. Anyone who claims to be able to find
    your arms simply by looking in a book or a database is either ignorant or lying.


    To explain in more detail, we have to clear up some misconceptions:

    * There is no such thing as "the arms of Smith". Arms are associated with families or lineages. A coat was inherited by a child from his parent,
    either intact or somewhat modified. But any individual's claim to use a specific historical coat of arms rests on a family link with someone acknowledged to have used those arms.

    * Many unrelated families share the same surname. (There are 2.5 million Americans named "Smith".) Sharing a surname does not mean that you share
    the right to the same arms.

    * Conversely, many families with different names have the same coat of
    arms. A coat of arms does not uniquely identify a family.

    * A fairly small fraction of society ever used coats of arms at any time.
    Only a few Smith families actually bore arms. Arms were used throughout
    the social scale, but much moreso at the top than at the bottom. Most Americans are descended from lower-class immigrants. Statistically, then,
    the chance that an immigrant ancestor of yours bore arms is not very high.

    * No one on Earth has a complete record of all coats of arms used or
    granted throughout history.

    Therefore, if your name is Smith, and a book or a guy in a mall shows you a coat of arms with the name Smith under it, that proves nothing at all. You
    are just as likely to be related to the founder of the Virginia colony, or
    the Scottish economist, or the nephew of Senator Kennedy, or none of the
    above. The guy in the mall with the database is fudging these issues and trying to sell you a pig in a poke. His database is certainly incomplete
    and probably very inaccurate, and he doesn't care about pedigrees. He is
    just out to exploit the similarity between your name and some name in his database.

    In order to determine what your arms are, we would need much more than your name: We would need your pedigree traced back to someone who used a coat of arms. The standard of proof will vary with the needs: If you are of
    Scottish descent and wish to matriculate arms with the Scottish heraldic authority, you'd better have a well-documented pedigree, probably
    stretching over several centuries. If you only want to use arms for
    yourself in a country such as the USA where heraldry is unregulated, then
    it is just a matter of satisfying yourself. Strictly genealogical matters
    are best discussed in the soc.genealogy.* hierarchy.

    On the other hand, if you do live in a country where heraldry is
    unregulated, you are free to choose arms for yourself. You can choose any
    arms you want, whether or not your family relationships entitle you to
    those arms. You may decide to choose unique arms, created especially for
    you, or borrow arms from some existing family. Some people consider it bad taste to use existing arms if you cannot prove your descent from the family that bore them. In any case, it behooves you to acquaint yourself with heraldry, its rules and its aesthetics, so that you can design, or have designed for you, a coat that pleases you and others as well.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.


    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers this question.

    The short answer is that there are no systematic meanings assigned to the charges and tinctures in arms. There is no way to look at a set of arms
    and decypher the original designer's intended symbolism.

    At various times in the history of heraldry -- mostly between the 16th and early 19th centuries, and mostly in England -- various authors tried to
    create systems of meaning for every charge and tincture in arms. Some of
    them went so far as to claim that their system had _always_ been in use,
    and therefore that the symbolism of ancient arms could be deduced from
    their charts. It was all bunk. Some heralds probably did design arms according to one or another of these systems -- which aren't consistent, by
    the way -- but we have no way of know, in general, when this was done.

    In some instances, the heraldic designer left us notes explaining why he
    chose certain charges for someone's arms. Designer's notes are almost
    standard in modern cases, but as you look further back in history, they
    quickly become an exceptional rarity. We do have a few amusing early
    examples. One herald from the Tudor period, for example, left us the information that he provided a particular knight with arms featuring an ox because the knight had been castrated in battle.

    In the absense of specific information about a set of arms, we can only
    guess what symbolism was intended by the designer. Of course, we can make informed guesses.

    Some charges are easy: Crosses were probably always intended to express Christian devotion. Lions and eagles have always represented nobility.
    And there is a small number of charges which always have a particular
    meaning: the red hand of Ulster, the royal tressure of Scotland, etc.
    But when we look at more common charges or at tinctures, there is no
    general answer.

    To go further, you need to research the person who bore the arms and the circumstances under which he received or adopted them. This research may reveal other clues to the motives of the designer.

    For example, we might find that the arms are a variant of arms held by a related family. This practice is called "cadency" and is quite common in medieval armory. A similar practice might be called "feudal cadency"; some minor noblemen adopted arms incorporating a charge from the arms of their overlords.

    Merchants and craftsmen often included the tools of the trades in their
    arms, or an attribute of their patron saint.

    Very frequently, the family name of the original owner of the arms sounds similar to the name of one of the charges used in his arms. This practice
    is called "canting" and was extremely common in medieval armorial design. Sometimes the cant is easy to recognize: A lion for "Lyons" or a fox for "Fuchs". Sometimes it takes specialized knowledge: The fish in the arms of
    "de Lucy" is called a "lucy", an archaic name for a species of pike. The
    cant can involve more than one language: An English family "Harrison" bears
    a hedgehog, called "herisson" in Middle French.

    There are other patterns of armorial design found in one part of Europe or another, at one time or another. The more we know of the history of the
    people who originally bore the arms, we more likely we can make an
    intelligent guess as to the intent of the designer of those arms. But when
    it comes right down to it, we can very seldom know for certain.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    This MFAQ written by :
    Josh Mittleman and Francois Velde. ---------------------------------------------------------------------

    --
    François R. Velde
    velde@nospam.org (replace by "heraldica")
    Heraldica Web Site: http://www.heraldica.org/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Francois R. Velde@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jul 1 06:00:01 2022
    Summary: "What are my arms?"
    Archive-name: heraldry/mfaq
    Posting-Frequency: weekly
    Last-modified: 1997/3/25
    URL: http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/mfaq


    The Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    A common variant is:

    "Some guy in a mall told me he could look up my name in a database
    and tell me my family arms? Can I trust him?"

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers these questions. We've noticed that these questions
    are usually asked by people from the US, so the answers are intended to fit
    the US context.

    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    The short answer is this: Your family probably has no coat of arms. Most families don't. Discovering whether _your_ family has arms is a
    time-consuming problem in genealogy. Anyone who claims to be able to find
    your arms simply by looking in a book or a database is either ignorant or lying.


    To explain in more detail, we have to clear up some misconceptions:

    * There is no such thing as "the arms of Smith". Arms are associated with families or lineages. A coat was inherited by a child from his parent,
    either intact or somewhat modified. But any individual's claim to use a specific historical coat of arms rests on a family link with someone acknowledged to have used those arms.

    * Many unrelated families share the same surname. (There are 2.5 million Americans named "Smith".) Sharing a surname does not mean that you share
    the right to the same arms.

    * Conversely, many families with different names have the same coat of
    arms. A coat of arms does not uniquely identify a family.

    * A fairly small fraction of society ever used coats of arms at any time.
    Only a few Smith families actually bore arms. Arms were used throughout
    the social scale, but much moreso at the top than at the bottom. Most Americans are descended from lower-class immigrants. Statistically, then,
    the chance that an immigrant ancestor of yours bore arms is not very high.

    * No one on Earth has a complete record of all coats of arms used or
    granted throughout history.

    Therefore, if your name is Smith, and a book or a guy in a mall shows you a coat of arms with the name Smith under it, that proves nothing at all. You
    are just as likely to be related to the founder of the Virginia colony, or
    the Scottish economist, or the nephew of Senator Kennedy, or none of the
    above. The guy in the mall with the database is fudging these issues and trying to sell you a pig in a poke. His database is certainly incomplete
    and probably very inaccurate, and he doesn't care about pedigrees. He is
    just out to exploit the similarity between your name and some name in his database.

    In order to determine what your arms are, we would need much more than your name: We would need your pedigree traced back to someone who used a coat of arms. The standard of proof will vary with the needs: If you are of
    Scottish descent and wish to matriculate arms with the Scottish heraldic authority, you'd better have a well-documented pedigree, probably
    stretching over several centuries. If you only want to use arms for
    yourself in a country such as the USA where heraldry is unregulated, then
    it is just a matter of satisfying yourself. Strictly genealogical matters
    are best discussed in the soc.genealogy.* hierarchy.

    On the other hand, if you do live in a country where heraldry is
    unregulated, you are free to choose arms for yourself. You can choose any
    arms you want, whether or not your family relationships entitle you to
    those arms. You may decide to choose unique arms, created especially for
    you, or borrow arms from some existing family. Some people consider it bad taste to use existing arms if you cannot prove your descent from the family that bore them. In any case, it behooves you to acquaint yourself with heraldry, its rules and its aesthetics, so that you can design, or have designed for you, a coat that pleases you and others as well.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.


    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers this question.

    The short answer is that there are no systematic meanings assigned to the charges and tinctures in arms. There is no way to look at a set of arms
    and decypher the original designer's intended symbolism.

    At various times in the history of heraldry -- mostly between the 16th and early 19th centuries, and mostly in England -- various authors tried to
    create systems of meaning for every charge and tincture in arms. Some of
    them went so far as to claim that their system had _always_ been in use,
    and therefore that the symbolism of ancient arms could be deduced from
    their charts. It was all bunk. Some heralds probably did design arms according to one or another of these systems -- which aren't consistent, by
    the way -- but we have no way of know, in general, when this was done.

    In some instances, the heraldic designer left us notes explaining why he
    chose certain charges for someone's arms. Designer's notes are almost
    standard in modern cases, but as you look further back in history, they
    quickly become an exceptional rarity. We do have a few amusing early
    examples. One herald from the Tudor period, for example, left us the information that he provided a particular knight with arms featuring an ox because the knight had been castrated in battle.

    In the absense of specific information about a set of arms, we can only
    guess what symbolism was intended by the designer. Of course, we can make informed guesses.

    Some charges are easy: Crosses were probably always intended to express Christian devotion. Lions and eagles have always represented nobility.
    And there is a small number of charges which always have a particular
    meaning: the red hand of Ulster, the royal tressure of Scotland, etc.
    But when we look at more common charges or at tinctures, there is no
    general answer.

    To go further, you need to research the person who bore the arms and the circumstances under which he received or adopted them. This research may reveal other clues to the motives of the designer.

    For example, we might find that the arms are a variant of arms held by a related family. This practice is called "cadency" and is quite common in medieval armory. A similar practice might be called "feudal cadency"; some minor noblemen adopted arms incorporating a charge from the arms of their overlords.

    Merchants and craftsmen often included the tools of the trades in their
    arms, or an attribute of their patron saint.

    Very frequently, the family name of the original owner of the arms sounds similar to the name of one of the charges used in his arms. This practice
    is called "canting" and was extremely common in medieval armorial design. Sometimes the cant is easy to recognize: A lion for "Lyons" or a fox for "Fuchs". Sometimes it takes specialized knowledge: The fish in the arms of
    "de Lucy" is called a "lucy", an archaic name for a species of pike. The
    cant can involve more than one language: An English family "Harrison" bears
    a hedgehog, called "herisson" in Middle French.

    There are other patterns of armorial design found in one part of Europe or another, at one time or another. The more we know of the history of the
    people who originally bore the arms, we more likely we can make an
    intelligent guess as to the intent of the designer of those arms. But when
    it comes right down to it, we can very seldom know for certain.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    This MFAQ written by :
    Josh Mittleman and Francois Velde. ---------------------------------------------------------------------

    --
    François R. Velde
    velde@nospam.org (replace by "heraldica")
    Heraldica Web Site: http://www.heraldica.org/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Francois R. Velde@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 1 06:00:02 2022
    Summary: "What are my arms?"
    Archive-name: heraldry/mfaq
    Posting-Frequency: weekly
    Last-modified: 1997/3/25
    URL: http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/mfaq


    The Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    A common variant is:

    "Some guy in a mall told me he could look up my name in a database
    and tell me my family arms? Can I trust him?"

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers these questions. We've noticed that these questions
    are usually asked by people from the US, so the answers are intended to fit
    the US context.

    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    The short answer is this: Your family probably has no coat of arms. Most families don't. Discovering whether _your_ family has arms is a
    time-consuming problem in genealogy. Anyone who claims to be able to find
    your arms simply by looking in a book or a database is either ignorant or lying.


    To explain in more detail, we have to clear up some misconceptions:

    * There is no such thing as "the arms of Smith". Arms are associated with families or lineages. A coat was inherited by a child from his parent,
    either intact or somewhat modified. But any individual's claim to use a specific historical coat of arms rests on a family link with someone acknowledged to have used those arms.

    * Many unrelated families share the same surname. (There are 2.5 million Americans named "Smith".) Sharing a surname does not mean that you share
    the right to the same arms.

    * Conversely, many families with different names have the same coat of
    arms. A coat of arms does not uniquely identify a family.

    * A fairly small fraction of society ever used coats of arms at any time.
    Only a few Smith families actually bore arms. Arms were used throughout
    the social scale, but much moreso at the top than at the bottom. Most Americans are descended from lower-class immigrants. Statistically, then,
    the chance that an immigrant ancestor of yours bore arms is not very high.

    * No one on Earth has a complete record of all coats of arms used or
    granted throughout history.

    Therefore, if your name is Smith, and a book or a guy in a mall shows you a coat of arms with the name Smith under it, that proves nothing at all. You
    are just as likely to be related to the founder of the Virginia colony, or
    the Scottish economist, or the nephew of Senator Kennedy, or none of the
    above. The guy in the mall with the database is fudging these issues and trying to sell you a pig in a poke. His database is certainly incomplete
    and probably very inaccurate, and he doesn't care about pedigrees. He is
    just out to exploit the similarity between your name and some name in his database.

    In order to determine what your arms are, we would need much more than your name: We would need your pedigree traced back to someone who used a coat of arms. The standard of proof will vary with the needs: If you are of
    Scottish descent and wish to matriculate arms with the Scottish heraldic authority, you'd better have a well-documented pedigree, probably
    stretching over several centuries. If you only want to use arms for
    yourself in a country such as the USA where heraldry is unregulated, then
    it is just a matter of satisfying yourself. Strictly genealogical matters
    are best discussed in the soc.genealogy.* hierarchy.

    On the other hand, if you do live in a country where heraldry is
    unregulated, you are free to choose arms for yourself. You can choose any
    arms you want, whether or not your family relationships entitle you to
    those arms. You may decide to choose unique arms, created especially for
    you, or borrow arms from some existing family. Some people consider it bad taste to use existing arms if you cannot prove your descent from the family that bore them. In any case, it behooves you to acquaint yourself with heraldry, its rules and its aesthetics, so that you can design, or have designed for you, a coat that pleases you and others as well.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.


    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers this question.

    The short answer is that there are no systematic meanings assigned to the charges and tinctures in arms. There is no way to look at a set of arms
    and decypher the original designer's intended symbolism.

    At various times in the history of heraldry -- mostly between the 16th and early 19th centuries, and mostly in England -- various authors tried to
    create systems of meaning for every charge and tincture in arms. Some of
    them went so far as to claim that their system had _always_ been in use,
    and therefore that the symbolism of ancient arms could be deduced from
    their charts. It was all bunk. Some heralds probably did design arms according to one or another of these systems -- which aren't consistent, by
    the way -- but we have no way of know, in general, when this was done.

    In some instances, the heraldic designer left us notes explaining why he
    chose certain charges for someone's arms. Designer's notes are almost
    standard in modern cases, but as you look further back in history, they
    quickly become an exceptional rarity. We do have a few amusing early
    examples. One herald from the Tudor period, for example, left us the information that he provided a particular knight with arms featuring an ox because the knight had been castrated in battle.

    In the absense of specific information about a set of arms, we can only
    guess what symbolism was intended by the designer. Of course, we can make informed guesses.

    Some charges are easy: Crosses were probably always intended to express Christian devotion. Lions and eagles have always represented nobility.
    And there is a small number of charges which always have a particular
    meaning: the red hand of Ulster, the royal tressure of Scotland, etc.
    But when we look at more common charges or at tinctures, there is no
    general answer.

    To go further, you need to research the person who bore the arms and the circumstances under which he received or adopted them. This research may reveal other clues to the motives of the designer.

    For example, we might find that the arms are a variant of arms held by a related family. This practice is called "cadency" and is quite common in medieval armory. A similar practice might be called "feudal cadency"; some minor noblemen adopted arms incorporating a charge from the arms of their overlords.

    Merchants and craftsmen often included the tools of the trades in their
    arms, or an attribute of their patron saint.

    Very frequently, the family name of the original owner of the arms sounds similar to the name of one of the charges used in his arms. This practice
    is called "canting" and was extremely common in medieval armorial design. Sometimes the cant is easy to recognize: A lion for "Lyons" or a fox for "Fuchs". Sometimes it takes specialized knowledge: The fish in the arms of
    "de Lucy" is called a "lucy", an archaic name for a species of pike. The
    cant can involve more than one language: An English family "Harrison" bears
    a hedgehog, called "herisson" in Middle French.

    There are other patterns of armorial design found in one part of Europe or another, at one time or another. The more we know of the history of the
    people who originally bore the arms, we more likely we can make an
    intelligent guess as to the intent of the designer of those arms. But when
    it comes right down to it, we can very seldom know for certain.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    This MFAQ written by :
    Josh Mittleman and Francois Velde. ---------------------------------------------------------------------

    --
    François R. Velde
    velde@nospam.org (replace by "heraldica")
    Heraldica Web Site: http://www.heraldica.org/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Francois R. Velde@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 1 06:00:06 2022
    Summary: "What are my arms?"
    Archive-name: heraldry/mfaq
    Posting-Frequency: weekly
    Last-modified: 1997/3/25
    URL: http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/mfaq


    The Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    A common variant is:

    "Some guy in a mall told me he could look up my name in a database
    and tell me my family arms? Can I trust him?"

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers these questions. We've noticed that these questions
    are usually asked by people from the US, so the answers are intended to fit
    the US context.

    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    The short answer is this: Your family probably has no coat of arms. Most families don't. Discovering whether _your_ family has arms is a
    time-consuming problem in genealogy. Anyone who claims to be able to find
    your arms simply by looking in a book or a database is either ignorant or lying.


    To explain in more detail, we have to clear up some misconceptions:

    * There is no such thing as "the arms of Smith". Arms are associated with families or lineages. A coat was inherited by a child from his parent,
    either intact or somewhat modified. But any individual's claim to use a specific historical coat of arms rests on a family link with someone acknowledged to have used those arms.

    * Many unrelated families share the same surname. (There are 2.5 million Americans named "Smith".) Sharing a surname does not mean that you share
    the right to the same arms.

    * Conversely, many families with different names have the same coat of
    arms. A coat of arms does not uniquely identify a family.

    * A fairly small fraction of society ever used coats of arms at any time.
    Only a few Smith families actually bore arms. Arms were used throughout
    the social scale, but much moreso at the top than at the bottom. Most Americans are descended from lower-class immigrants. Statistically, then,
    the chance that an immigrant ancestor of yours bore arms is not very high.

    * No one on Earth has a complete record of all coats of arms used or
    granted throughout history.

    Therefore, if your name is Smith, and a book or a guy in a mall shows you a coat of arms with the name Smith under it, that proves nothing at all. You
    are just as likely to be related to the founder of the Virginia colony, or
    the Scottish economist, or the nephew of Senator Kennedy, or none of the
    above. The guy in the mall with the database is fudging these issues and trying to sell you a pig in a poke. His database is certainly incomplete
    and probably very inaccurate, and he doesn't care about pedigrees. He is
    just out to exploit the similarity between your name and some name in his database.

    In order to determine what your arms are, we would need much more than your name: We would need your pedigree traced back to someone who used a coat of arms. The standard of proof will vary with the needs: If you are of
    Scottish descent and wish to matriculate arms with the Scottish heraldic authority, you'd better have a well-documented pedigree, probably
    stretching over several centuries. If you only want to use arms for
    yourself in a country such as the USA where heraldry is unregulated, then
    it is just a matter of satisfying yourself. Strictly genealogical matters
    are best discussed in the soc.genealogy.* hierarchy.

    On the other hand, if you do live in a country where heraldry is
    unregulated, you are free to choose arms for yourself. You can choose any
    arms you want, whether or not your family relationships entitle you to
    those arms. You may decide to choose unique arms, created especially for
    you, or borrow arms from some existing family. Some people consider it bad taste to use existing arms if you cannot prove your descent from the family that bore them. In any case, it behooves you to acquaint yourself with heraldry, its rules and its aesthetics, so that you can design, or have designed for you, a coat that pleases you and others as well.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.


    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers this question.

    The short answer is that there are no systematic meanings assigned to the charges and tinctures in arms. There is no way to look at a set of arms
    and decypher the original designer's intended symbolism.

    At various times in the history of heraldry -- mostly between the 16th and early 19th centuries, and mostly in England -- various authors tried to
    create systems of meaning for every charge and tincture in arms. Some of
    them went so far as to claim that their system had _always_ been in use,
    and therefore that the symbolism of ancient arms could be deduced from
    their charts. It was all bunk. Some heralds probably did design arms according to one or another of these systems -- which aren't consistent, by
    the way -- but we have no way of know, in general, when this was done.

    In some instances, the heraldic designer left us notes explaining why he
    chose certain charges for someone's arms. Designer's notes are almost
    standard in modern cases, but as you look further back in history, they
    quickly become an exceptional rarity. We do have a few amusing early
    examples. One herald from the Tudor period, for example, left us the information that he provided a particular knight with arms featuring an ox because the knight had been castrated in battle.

    In the absense of specific information about a set of arms, we can only
    guess what symbolism was intended by the designer. Of course, we can make informed guesses.

    Some charges are easy: Crosses were probably always intended to express Christian devotion. Lions and eagles have always represented nobility.
    And there is a small number of charges which always have a particular
    meaning: the red hand of Ulster, the royal tressure of Scotland, etc.
    But when we look at more common charges or at tinctures, there is no
    general answer.

    To go further, you need to research the person who bore the arms and the circumstances under which he received or adopted them. This research may reveal other clues to the motives of the designer.

    For example, we might find that the arms are a variant of arms held by a related family. This practice is called "cadency" and is quite common in medieval armory. A similar practice might be called "feudal cadency"; some minor noblemen adopted arms incorporating a charge from the arms of their overlords.

    Merchants and craftsmen often included the tools of the trades in their
    arms, or an attribute of their patron saint.

    Very frequently, the family name of the original owner of the arms sounds similar to the name of one of the charges used in his arms. This practice
    is called "canting" and was extremely common in medieval armorial design. Sometimes the cant is easy to recognize: A lion for "Lyons" or a fox for "Fuchs". Sometimes it takes specialized knowledge: The fish in the arms of
    "de Lucy" is called a "lucy", an archaic name for a species of pike. The
    cant can involve more than one language: An English family "Harrison" bears
    a hedgehog, called "herisson" in Middle French.

    There are other patterns of armorial design found in one part of Europe or another, at one time or another. The more we know of the history of the
    people who originally bore the arms, we more likely we can make an
    intelligent guess as to the intent of the designer of those arms. But when
    it comes right down to it, we can very seldom know for certain.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    This MFAQ written by :
    Josh Mittleman and Francois Velde. ---------------------------------------------------------------------

    --
    François R. Velde
    velde@nospam.org (replace by "heraldica")
    Heraldica Web Site: http://www.heraldica.org/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Francois R. Velde@21:1/5 to All on Sat Oct 1 06:00:59 2022
    Summary: "What are my arms?"
    Archive-name: heraldry/mfaq
    Posting-Frequency: weekly
    Last-modified: 1997/3/25
    URL: http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/mfaq


    The Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    A common variant is:

    "Some guy in a mall told me he could look up my name in a database
    and tell me my family arms? Can I trust him?"

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers these questions. We've noticed that these questions
    are usually asked by people from the US, so the answers are intended to fit
    the US context.

    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    The short answer is this: Your family probably has no coat of arms. Most families don't. Discovering whether _your_ family has arms is a
    time-consuming problem in genealogy. Anyone who claims to be able to find
    your arms simply by looking in a book or a database is either ignorant or lying.


    To explain in more detail, we have to clear up some misconceptions:

    * There is no such thing as "the arms of Smith". Arms are associated with families or lineages. A coat was inherited by a child from his parent,
    either intact or somewhat modified. But any individual's claim to use a specific historical coat of arms rests on a family link with someone acknowledged to have used those arms.

    * Many unrelated families share the same surname. (There are 2.5 million Americans named "Smith".) Sharing a surname does not mean that you share
    the right to the same arms.

    * Conversely, many families with different names have the same coat of
    arms. A coat of arms does not uniquely identify a family.

    * A fairly small fraction of society ever used coats of arms at any time.
    Only a few Smith families actually bore arms. Arms were used throughout
    the social scale, but much moreso at the top than at the bottom. Most Americans are descended from lower-class immigrants. Statistically, then,
    the chance that an immigrant ancestor of yours bore arms is not very high.

    * No one on Earth has a complete record of all coats of arms used or
    granted throughout history.

    Therefore, if your name is Smith, and a book or a guy in a mall shows you a coat of arms with the name Smith under it, that proves nothing at all. You
    are just as likely to be related to the founder of the Virginia colony, or
    the Scottish economist, or the nephew of Senator Kennedy, or none of the
    above. The guy in the mall with the database is fudging these issues and trying to sell you a pig in a poke. His database is certainly incomplete
    and probably very inaccurate, and he doesn't care about pedigrees. He is
    just out to exploit the similarity between your name and some name in his database.

    In order to determine what your arms are, we would need much more than your name: We would need your pedigree traced back to someone who used a coat of arms. The standard of proof will vary with the needs: If you are of
    Scottish descent and wish to matriculate arms with the Scottish heraldic authority, you'd better have a well-documented pedigree, probably
    stretching over several centuries. If you only want to use arms for
    yourself in a country such as the USA where heraldry is unregulated, then
    it is just a matter of satisfying yourself. Strictly genealogical matters
    are best discussed in the soc.genealogy.* hierarchy.

    On the other hand, if you do live in a country where heraldry is
    unregulated, you are free to choose arms for yourself. You can choose any
    arms you want, whether or not your family relationships entitle you to
    those arms. You may decide to choose unique arms, created especially for
    you, or borrow arms from some existing family. Some people consider it bad taste to use existing arms if you cannot prove your descent from the family that bore them. In any case, it behooves you to acquaint yourself with heraldry, its rules and its aesthetics, so that you can design, or have designed for you, a coat that pleases you and others as well.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.


    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers this question.

    The short answer is that there are no systematic meanings assigned to the charges and tinctures in arms. There is no way to look at a set of arms
    and decypher the original designer's intended symbolism.

    At various times in the history of heraldry -- mostly between the 16th and early 19th centuries, and mostly in England -- various authors tried to
    create systems of meaning for every charge and tincture in arms. Some of
    them went so far as to claim that their system had _always_ been in use,
    and therefore that the symbolism of ancient arms could be deduced from
    their charts. It was all bunk. Some heralds probably did design arms according to one or another of these systems -- which aren't consistent, by
    the way -- but we have no way of know, in general, when this was done.

    In some instances, the heraldic designer left us notes explaining why he
    chose certain charges for someone's arms. Designer's notes are almost
    standard in modern cases, but as you look further back in history, they
    quickly become an exceptional rarity. We do have a few amusing early
    examples. One herald from the Tudor period, for example, left us the information that he provided a particular knight with arms featuring an ox because the knight had been castrated in battle.

    In the absense of specific information about a set of arms, we can only
    guess what symbolism was intended by the designer. Of course, we can make informed guesses.

    Some charges are easy: Crosses were probably always intended to express Christian devotion. Lions and eagles have always represented nobility.
    And there is a small number of charges which always have a particular
    meaning: the red hand of Ulster, the royal tressure of Scotland, etc.
    But when we look at more common charges or at tinctures, there is no
    general answer.

    To go further, you need to research the person who bore the arms and the circumstances under which he received or adopted them. This research may reveal other clues to the motives of the designer.

    For example, we might find that the arms are a variant of arms held by a related family. This practice is called "cadency" and is quite common in medieval armory. A similar practice might be called "feudal cadency"; some minor noblemen adopted arms incorporating a charge from the arms of their overlords.

    Merchants and craftsmen often included the tools of the trades in their
    arms, or an attribute of their patron saint.

    Very frequently, the family name of the original owner of the arms sounds similar to the name of one of the charges used in his arms. This practice
    is called "canting" and was extremely common in medieval armorial design. Sometimes the cant is easy to recognize: A lion for "Lyons" or a fox for "Fuchs". Sometimes it takes specialized knowledge: The fish in the arms of
    "de Lucy" is called a "lucy", an archaic name for a species of pike. The
    cant can involve more than one language: An English family "Harrison" bears
    a hedgehog, called "herisson" in Middle French.

    There are other patterns of armorial design found in one part of Europe or another, at one time or another. The more we know of the history of the
    people who originally bore the arms, we more likely we can make an
    intelligent guess as to the intent of the designer of those arms. But when
    it comes right down to it, we can very seldom know for certain.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    This MFAQ written by :
    Josh Mittleman and Francois Velde. ---------------------------------------------------------------------

    --
    François R. Velde
    velde@nospam.org (replace by "heraldica")
    Heraldica Web Site: http://www.heraldica.org/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Francois R. Velde@21:1/5 to All on Tue Nov 1 06:01:53 2022
    Summary: "What are my arms?"
    Archive-name: heraldry/mfaq
    Posting-Frequency: weekly
    Last-modified: 1997/3/25
    URL: http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/mfaq


    The Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    A common variant is:

    "Some guy in a mall told me he could look up my name in a database
    and tell me my family arms? Can I trust him?"

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers these questions. We've noticed that these questions
    are usually asked by people from the US, so the answers are intended to fit
    the US context.

    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    The short answer is this: Your family probably has no coat of arms. Most families don't. Discovering whether _your_ family has arms is a
    time-consuming problem in genealogy. Anyone who claims to be able to find
    your arms simply by looking in a book or a database is either ignorant or lying.


    To explain in more detail, we have to clear up some misconceptions:

    * There is no such thing as "the arms of Smith". Arms are associated with families or lineages. A coat was inherited by a child from his parent,
    either intact or somewhat modified. But any individual's claim to use a specific historical coat of arms rests on a family link with someone acknowledged to have used those arms.

    * Many unrelated families share the same surname. (There are 2.5 million Americans named "Smith".) Sharing a surname does not mean that you share
    the right to the same arms.

    * Conversely, many families with different names have the same coat of
    arms. A coat of arms does not uniquely identify a family.

    * A fairly small fraction of society ever used coats of arms at any time.
    Only a few Smith families actually bore arms. Arms were used throughout
    the social scale, but much moreso at the top than at the bottom. Most Americans are descended from lower-class immigrants. Statistically, then,
    the chance that an immigrant ancestor of yours bore arms is not very high.

    * No one on Earth has a complete record of all coats of arms used or
    granted throughout history.

    Therefore, if your name is Smith, and a book or a guy in a mall shows you a coat of arms with the name Smith under it, that proves nothing at all. You
    are just as likely to be related to the founder of the Virginia colony, or
    the Scottish economist, or the nephew of Senator Kennedy, or none of the
    above. The guy in the mall with the database is fudging these issues and trying to sell you a pig in a poke. His database is certainly incomplete
    and probably very inaccurate, and he doesn't care about pedigrees. He is
    just out to exploit the similarity between your name and some name in his database.

    In order to determine what your arms are, we would need much more than your name: We would need your pedigree traced back to someone who used a coat of arms. The standard of proof will vary with the needs: If you are of
    Scottish descent and wish to matriculate arms with the Scottish heraldic authority, you'd better have a well-documented pedigree, probably
    stretching over several centuries. If you only want to use arms for
    yourself in a country such as the USA where heraldry is unregulated, then
    it is just a matter of satisfying yourself. Strictly genealogical matters
    are best discussed in the soc.genealogy.* hierarchy.

    On the other hand, if you do live in a country where heraldry is
    unregulated, you are free to choose arms for yourself. You can choose any
    arms you want, whether or not your family relationships entitle you to
    those arms. You may decide to choose unique arms, created especially for
    you, or borrow arms from some existing family. Some people consider it bad taste to use existing arms if you cannot prove your descent from the family that bore them. In any case, it behooves you to acquaint yourself with heraldry, its rules and its aesthetics, so that you can design, or have designed for you, a coat that pleases you and others as well.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.


    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers this question.

    The short answer is that there are no systematic meanings assigned to the charges and tinctures in arms. There is no way to look at a set of arms
    and decypher the original designer's intended symbolism.

    At various times in the history of heraldry -- mostly between the 16th and early 19th centuries, and mostly in England -- various authors tried to
    create systems of meaning for every charge and tincture in arms. Some of
    them went so far as to claim that their system had _always_ been in use,
    and therefore that the symbolism of ancient arms could be deduced from
    their charts. It was all bunk. Some heralds probably did design arms according to one or another of these systems -- which aren't consistent, by
    the way -- but we have no way of know, in general, when this was done.

    In some instances, the heraldic designer left us notes explaining why he
    chose certain charges for someone's arms. Designer's notes are almost
    standard in modern cases, but as you look further back in history, they
    quickly become an exceptional rarity. We do have a few amusing early
    examples. One herald from the Tudor period, for example, left us the information that he provided a particular knight with arms featuring an ox because the knight had been castrated in battle.

    In the absense of specific information about a set of arms, we can only
    guess what symbolism was intended by the designer. Of course, we can make informed guesses.

    Some charges are easy: Crosses were probably always intended to express Christian devotion. Lions and eagles have always represented nobility.
    And there is a small number of charges which always have a particular
    meaning: the red hand of Ulster, the royal tressure of Scotland, etc.
    But when we look at more common charges or at tinctures, there is no
    general answer.

    To go further, you need to research the person who bore the arms and the circumstances under which he received or adopted them. This research may reveal other clues to the motives of the designer.

    For example, we might find that the arms are a variant of arms held by a related family. This practice is called "cadency" and is quite common in medieval armory. A similar practice might be called "feudal cadency"; some minor noblemen adopted arms incorporating a charge from the arms of their overlords.

    Merchants and craftsmen often included the tools of the trades in their
    arms, or an attribute of their patron saint.

    Very frequently, the family name of the original owner of the arms sounds similar to the name of one of the charges used in his arms. This practice
    is called "canting" and was extremely common in medieval armorial design. Sometimes the cant is easy to recognize: A lion for "Lyons" or a fox for "Fuchs". Sometimes it takes specialized knowledge: The fish in the arms of
    "de Lucy" is called a "lucy", an archaic name for a species of pike. The
    cant can involve more than one language: An English family "Harrison" bears
    a hedgehog, called "herisson" in Middle French.

    There are other patterns of armorial design found in one part of Europe or another, at one time or another. The more we know of the history of the
    people who originally bore the arms, we more likely we can make an
    intelligent guess as to the intent of the designer of those arms. But when
    it comes right down to it, we can very seldom know for certain.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    This MFAQ written by :
    Josh Mittleman and Francois Velde. ---------------------------------------------------------------------

    --
    François R. Velde
    velde@nospam.org (replace by "heraldica")
    Heraldica Web Site: http://www.heraldica.org/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Francois R. Velde@21:1/5 to All on Thu Dec 1 07:02:49 2022
    Summary: "What are my arms?"
    Archive-name: heraldry/mfaq
    Posting-Frequency: weekly
    Last-modified: 1997/3/25
    URL: http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/mfaq


    The Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    A common variant is:

    "Some guy in a mall told me he could look up my name in a database
    and tell me my family arms? Can I trust him?"

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers these questions. We've noticed that these questions
    are usually asked by people from the US, so the answers are intended to fit
    the US context.

    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    The short answer is this: Your family probably has no coat of arms. Most families don't. Discovering whether _your_ family has arms is a
    time-consuming problem in genealogy. Anyone who claims to be able to find
    your arms simply by looking in a book or a database is either ignorant or lying.


    To explain in more detail, we have to clear up some misconceptions:

    * There is no such thing as "the arms of Smith". Arms are associated with families or lineages. A coat was inherited by a child from his parent,
    either intact or somewhat modified. But any individual's claim to use a specific historical coat of arms rests on a family link with someone acknowledged to have used those arms.

    * Many unrelated families share the same surname. (There are 2.5 million Americans named "Smith".) Sharing a surname does not mean that you share
    the right to the same arms.

    * Conversely, many families with different names have the same coat of
    arms. A coat of arms does not uniquely identify a family.

    * A fairly small fraction of society ever used coats of arms at any time.
    Only a few Smith families actually bore arms. Arms were used throughout
    the social scale, but much moreso at the top than at the bottom. Most Americans are descended from lower-class immigrants. Statistically, then,
    the chance that an immigrant ancestor of yours bore arms is not very high.

    * No one on Earth has a complete record of all coats of arms used or
    granted throughout history.

    Therefore, if your name is Smith, and a book or a guy in a mall shows you a coat of arms with the name Smith under it, that proves nothing at all. You
    are just as likely to be related to the founder of the Virginia colony, or
    the Scottish economist, or the nephew of Senator Kennedy, or none of the
    above. The guy in the mall with the database is fudging these issues and trying to sell you a pig in a poke. His database is certainly incomplete
    and probably very inaccurate, and he doesn't care about pedigrees. He is
    just out to exploit the similarity between your name and some name in his database.

    In order to determine what your arms are, we would need much more than your name: We would need your pedigree traced back to someone who used a coat of arms. The standard of proof will vary with the needs: If you are of
    Scottish descent and wish to matriculate arms with the Scottish heraldic authority, you'd better have a well-documented pedigree, probably
    stretching over several centuries. If you only want to use arms for
    yourself in a country such as the USA where heraldry is unregulated, then
    it is just a matter of satisfying yourself. Strictly genealogical matters
    are best discussed in the soc.genealogy.* hierarchy.

    On the other hand, if you do live in a country where heraldry is
    unregulated, you are free to choose arms for yourself. You can choose any
    arms you want, whether or not your family relationships entitle you to
    those arms. You may decide to choose unique arms, created especially for
    you, or borrow arms from some existing family. Some people consider it bad taste to use existing arms if you cannot prove your descent from the family that bore them. In any case, it behooves you to acquaint yourself with heraldry, its rules and its aesthetics, so that you can design, or have designed for you, a coat that pleases you and others as well.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.


    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers this question.

    The short answer is that there are no systematic meanings assigned to the charges and tinctures in arms. There is no way to look at a set of arms
    and decypher the original designer's intended symbolism.

    At various times in the history of heraldry -- mostly between the 16th and early 19th centuries, and mostly in England -- various authors tried to
    create systems of meaning for every charge and tincture in arms. Some of
    them went so far as to claim that their system had _always_ been in use,
    and therefore that the symbolism of ancient arms could be deduced from
    their charts. It was all bunk. Some heralds probably did design arms according to one or another of these systems -- which aren't consistent, by
    the way -- but we have no way of know, in general, when this was done.

    In some instances, the heraldic designer left us notes explaining why he
    chose certain charges for someone's arms. Designer's notes are almost
    standard in modern cases, but as you look further back in history, they
    quickly become an exceptional rarity. We do have a few amusing early
    examples. One herald from the Tudor period, for example, left us the information that he provided a particular knight with arms featuring an ox because the knight had been castrated in battle.

    In the absense of specific information about a set of arms, we can only
    guess what symbolism was intended by the designer. Of course, we can make informed guesses.

    Some charges are easy: Crosses were probably always intended to express Christian devotion. Lions and eagles have always represented nobility.
    And there is a small number of charges which always have a particular
    meaning: the red hand of Ulster, the royal tressure of Scotland, etc.
    But when we look at more common charges or at tinctures, there is no
    general answer.

    To go further, you need to research the person who bore the arms and the circumstances under which he received or adopted them. This research may reveal other clues to the motives of the designer.

    For example, we might find that the arms are a variant of arms held by a related family. This practice is called "cadency" and is quite common in medieval armory. A similar practice might be called "feudal cadency"; some minor noblemen adopted arms incorporating a charge from the arms of their overlords.

    Merchants and craftsmen often included the tools of the trades in their
    arms, or an attribute of their patron saint.

    Very frequently, the family name of the original owner of the arms sounds similar to the name of one of the charges used in his arms. This practice
    is called "canting" and was extremely common in medieval armorial design. Sometimes the cant is easy to recognize: A lion for "Lyons" or a fox for "Fuchs". Sometimes it takes specialized knowledge: The fish in the arms of
    "de Lucy" is called a "lucy", an archaic name for a species of pike. The
    cant can involve more than one language: An English family "Harrison" bears
    a hedgehog, called "herisson" in Middle French.

    There are other patterns of armorial design found in one part of Europe or another, at one time or another. The more we know of the history of the
    people who originally bore the arms, we more likely we can make an
    intelligent guess as to the intent of the designer of those arms. But when
    it comes right down to it, we can very seldom know for certain.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------
    This MFAQ written by :
    Josh Mittleman and Francois Velde. ---------------------------------------------------------------------

    --
    François R. Velde
    velde@nospam.org (replace by "heraldica")
    Heraldica Web Site: http://www.heraldica.org/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Francois R. Velde@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jan 1 07:03:40 2023
    Summary: "What are my arms?"
    Archive-name: heraldry/mfaq
    Posting-Frequency: weekly
    Last-modified: 1997/3/25
    URL: http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/mfaq


    The Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    A common variant is:

    "Some guy in a mall told me he could look up my name in a database
    and tell me my family arms? Can I trust him?"

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers these questions. We've noticed that these questions
    are usually asked by people from the US, so the answers are intended to fit
    the US context.

    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    The short answer is this: Your family probably has no coat of arms. Most families don't. Discovering whether _your_ family has arms is a
    time-consuming problem in genealogy. Anyone who claims to be able to find
    your arms simply by looking in a book or a database is either ignorant or lying.


    To explain in more detail, we have to clear up some misconceptions:

    * There is no such thing as "the arms of Smith". Arms are associated with families or lineages. A coat was inherited by a child from his parent,
    either intact or somewhat modified. But any individual's claim to use a specific historical coat of arms rests on a family link with someone acknowledged to have used those arms.

    * Many unrelated families share the same surname. (There are 2.5 million Americans named "Smith".) Sharing a surname does not mean that you share
    the right to the same arms.

    * Conversely, many families with different names have the same coat of
    arms. A coat of arms does not uniquely identify a family.

    * A fairly small fraction of society ever used coats of arms at any time.
    Only a few Smith families actually bore arms. Arms were used throughout
    the social scale, but much moreso at the top than at the bottom. Most Americans are descended from lower-class immigrants. Statistically, then,
    the chance that an immigrant ancestor of yours bore arms is not very high.

    * No one on Earth has a complete record of all coats of arms used or
    granted throughout history.

    Therefore, if your name is Smith, and a book or a guy in a mall shows you a coat of arms with the name Smith under it, that proves nothing at all. You
    are just as likely to be related to the founder of the Virginia colony, or
    the Scottish economist, or the nephew of Senator Kennedy, or none of the
    above. The guy in the mall with the database is fudging these issues and trying to sell you a pig in a poke. His database is certainly incomplete
    and probably very inaccurate, and he doesn't care about pedigrees. He is
    just out to exploit the similarity between your name and some name in his database.

    In order to determine what your arms are, we would need much more than your name: We would need your pedigree traced back to someone who used a coat of arms. The standard of proof will vary with the needs: If you are of
    Scottish descent and wish to matriculate arms with the Scottish heraldic authority, you'd better have a well-documented pedigree, probably
    stretching over several centuries. If you only want to use arms for
    yourself in a country such as the USA where heraldry is unregulated, then
    it is just a matter of satisfying yourself. Strictly genealogical matters
    are best discussed in the soc.genealogy.* hierarchy.

    On the other hand, if you do live in a country where heraldry is
    unregulated, you are free to choose arms for yourself. You can choose any
    arms you want, whether or not your family relationships entitle you to
    those arms. You may decide to choose unique arms, created especially for
    you, or borrow arms from some existing family. Some people consider it bad taste to use existing arms if you cannot prove your descent from the family that bore them. In any case, it behooves you to acquaint yourself with heraldry, its rules and its aesthetics, so that you can design, or have designed for you, a coat that pleases you and others as well.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.


    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers this question.

    The short answer is that there are no systematic meanings assigned to the charges and tinctures in arms. There is no way to look at a set of arms
    and decypher the original designer's intended symbolism.

    At various times in the history of heraldry -- mostly between the 16th and early 19th centuries, and mostly in England -- various authors tried to
    create systems of meaning for every charge and tincture in arms. Some of
    them went so far as to claim that their system had _always_ been in use,
    and therefore that the symbolism of ancient arms could be deduced from
    their charts. It was all bunk. Some heralds probably did design arms according to one or another of these systems -- which aren't consistent, by
    the way -- but we have no way of know, in general, when this was done.

    In some instances, the heraldic designer left us notes explaining why he
    chose certain charges for someone's arms. Designer's notes are almost
    standard in modern cases, but as you look further back in history, they
    quickly become an exceptional rarity. We do have a few amusing early
    examples. One herald from the Tudor period, for example, left us the information that he provided a particular knight with arms featuring an ox because the knight had been castrated in battle.

    In the absense of specific information about a set of arms, we can only
    guess what symbolism was intended by the designer. Of course, we can make informed guesses.

    Some charges are easy: Crosses were probably always intended to express Christian devotion. Lions and eagles have always represented nobility.
    And there is a small number of charges which always have a particular
    meaning: the red hand of Ulster, the royal tressure of Scotland, etc.
    But when we look at more common charges or at tinctures, there is no
    general answer.

    To go further, you need to research the person who bore the arms and the circumstances under which he received or adopted them. This research may reveal other clues to the motives of the designer.

    For example, we might find that the arms are a variant of arms held by a related family. This practice is called "cadency" and is quite common in medieval armory. A similar practice might be called "feudal cadency"; some minor noblemen adopted arms incorporating a charge from the arms of their overlords.

    Merchants and craftsmen often included the tools of the trades in their
    arms, or an attribute of their patron saint.

    Very frequently, the family name of the original owner of the arms sounds similar to the name of one of the charges used in his arms. This practice
    is called "canting" and was extremely common in medieval armorial design. Sometimes the cant is easy to recognize: A lion for "Lyons" or a fox for "Fuchs". Sometimes it takes specialized knowledge: The fish in the arms of
    "de Lucy" is called a "lucy", an archaic name for a species of pike. The
    cant can involve more than one language: An English family "Harrison" bears
    a hedgehog, called "herisson" in Middle French.

    There are other patterns of armorial design found in one part of Europe or another, at one time or another. The more we know of the history of the
    people who originally bore the arms, we more likely we can make an
    intelligent guess as to the intent of the designer of those arms. But when
    it comes right down to it, we can very seldom know for certain.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.

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  • From Francois R. Velde@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 1 07:04:33 2023
    Summary: "What are my arms?"
    Archive-name: heraldry/mfaq
    Posting-Frequency: weekly
    Last-modified: 1997/3/25
    URL: http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/mfaq


    The Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    A common variant is:

    "Some guy in a mall told me he could look up my name in a database
    and tell me my family arms? Can I trust him?"

    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers these questions. We've noticed that these questions
    are usually asked by people from the US, so the answers are intended to fit
    the US context.

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    "My name is Smith, what are my arms?"

    The short answer is this: Your family probably has no coat of arms. Most families don't. Discovering whether _your_ family has arms is a
    time-consuming problem in genealogy. Anyone who claims to be able to find
    your arms simply by looking in a book or a database is either ignorant or lying.


    To explain in more detail, we have to clear up some misconceptions:

    * There is no such thing as "the arms of Smith". Arms are associated with families or lineages. A coat was inherited by a child from his parent,
    either intact or somewhat modified. But any individual's claim to use a specific historical coat of arms rests on a family link with someone acknowledged to have used those arms.

    * Many unrelated families share the same surname. (There are 2.5 million Americans named "Smith".) Sharing a surname does not mean that you share
    the right to the same arms.

    * Conversely, many families with different names have the same coat of
    arms. A coat of arms does not uniquely identify a family.

    * A fairly small fraction of society ever used coats of arms at any time.
    Only a few Smith families actually bore arms. Arms were used throughout
    the social scale, but much moreso at the top than at the bottom. Most Americans are descended from lower-class immigrants. Statistically, then,
    the chance that an immigrant ancestor of yours bore arms is not very high.

    * No one on Earth has a complete record of all coats of arms used or
    granted throughout history.

    Therefore, if your name is Smith, and a book or a guy in a mall shows you a coat of arms with the name Smith under it, that proves nothing at all. You
    are just as likely to be related to the founder of the Virginia colony, or
    the Scottish economist, or the nephew of Senator Kennedy, or none of the
    above. The guy in the mall with the database is fudging these issues and trying to sell you a pig in a poke. His database is certainly incomplete
    and probably very inaccurate, and he doesn't care about pedigrees. He is
    just out to exploit the similarity between your name and some name in his database.

    In order to determine what your arms are, we would need much more than your name: We would need your pedigree traced back to someone who used a coat of arms. The standard of proof will vary with the needs: If you are of
    Scottish descent and wish to matriculate arms with the Scottish heraldic authority, you'd better have a well-documented pedigree, probably
    stretching over several centuries. If you only want to use arms for
    yourself in a country such as the USA where heraldry is unregulated, then
    it is just a matter of satisfying yourself. Strictly genealogical matters
    are best discussed in the soc.genealogy.* hierarchy.

    On the other hand, if you do live in a country where heraldry is
    unregulated, you are free to choose arms for yourself. You can choose any
    arms you want, whether or not your family relationships entitle you to
    those arms. You may decide to choose unique arms, created especially for
    you, or borrow arms from some existing family. Some people consider it bad taste to use existing arms if you cannot prove your descent from the family that bore them. In any case, it behooves you to acquaint yourself with heraldry, its rules and its aesthetics, so that you can design, or have designed for you, a coat that pleases you and others as well.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.


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    The Second Most Frequently Asked Question on rec.heraldry is:

    "My coat of arms contains a widget azure. What is the significance of a
    widget in heraldry?"

    This posting answers this question.

    The short answer is that there are no systematic meanings assigned to the charges and tinctures in arms. There is no way to look at a set of arms
    and decypher the original designer's intended symbolism.

    At various times in the history of heraldry -- mostly between the 16th and early 19th centuries, and mostly in England -- various authors tried to
    create systems of meaning for every charge and tincture in arms. Some of
    them went so far as to claim that their system had _always_ been in use,
    and therefore that the symbolism of ancient arms could be deduced from
    their charts. It was all bunk. Some heralds probably did design arms according to one or another of these systems -- which aren't consistent, by
    the way -- but we have no way of know, in general, when this was done.

    In some instances, the heraldic designer left us notes explaining why he
    chose certain charges for someone's arms. Designer's notes are almost
    standard in modern cases, but as you look further back in history, they
    quickly become an exceptional rarity. We do have a few amusing early
    examples. One herald from the Tudor period, for example, left us the information that he provided a particular knight with arms featuring an ox because the knight had been castrated in battle.

    In the absense of specific information about a set of arms, we can only
    guess what symbolism was intended by the designer. Of course, we can make informed guesses.

    Some charges are easy: Crosses were probably always intended to express Christian devotion. Lions and eagles have always represented nobility.
    And there is a small number of charges which always have a particular
    meaning: the red hand of Ulster, the royal tressure of Scotland, etc.
    But when we look at more common charges or at tinctures, there is no
    general answer.

    To go further, you need to research the person who bore the arms and the circumstances under which he received or adopted them. This research may reveal other clues to the motives of the designer.

    For example, we might find that the arms are a variant of arms held by a related family. This practice is called "cadency" and is quite common in medieval armory. A similar practice might be called "feudal cadency"; some minor noblemen adopted arms incorporating a charge from the arms of their overlords.

    Merchants and craftsmen often included the tools of the trades in their
    arms, or an attribute of their patron saint.

    Very frequently, the family name of the original owner of the arms sounds similar to the name of one of the charges used in his arms. This practice
    is called "canting" and was extremely common in medieval armorial design. Sometimes the cant is easy to recognize: A lion for "Lyons" or a fox for "Fuchs". Sometimes it takes specialized knowledge: The fish in the arms of
    "de Lucy" is called a "lucy", an archaic name for a species of pike. The
    cant can involve more than one language: An English family "Harrison" bears
    a hedgehog, called "herisson" in Middle French.

    There are other patterns of armorial design found in one part of Europe or another, at one time or another. The more we know of the history of the
    people who originally bore the arms, we more likely we can make an
    intelligent guess as to the intent of the designer of those arms. But when
    it comes right down to it, we can very seldom know for certain.

    The monthly FAQ posting, which can be found at

    <http://www.heraldica.org/faqs/heraldry.faq>

    provides more detailed information and a bibliography.

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    This MFAQ written by :
    Josh Mittleman and Francois Velde. ---------------------------------------------------------------------

    --
    François R. Velde
    velde@nospam.org (replace by "heraldica")
    Heraldica Web Site: http://www.heraldica.org/

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