20 years later my ears are still ringing from not wearing hearing protection when a 155 fired
10 feet from me

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On 7/4/2019 11:54 AM, jc5860677@gmail.com wrote:
# 20 years later my ears are still ringing from not wearing hearing protection when a 155 fired
# 10 feet from me
#
A friend's father fired artillery in Nam. The VA is treating his
hearing loss as service related.

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On Thursday, February 1, 2001 at 6:22:46 PM UTC-7, Mike Roce wrote:
# I might be working with it soon, and I'd like to know how much hearing
# protection to bring with me. I'm used to the firing range, where I sit
# beside people discharging everything from .222 to 12 Gauge shotguns, and
# fire .30 calibre myself. But surely a 105 or 155 mm howitzer is much louder. # Nobody's told me yet what to do about that!
#
# If anyone here knows, or can direct me to a good artillery link, please let
# me know.

I know a guy who was in a WWII howitzer battery that practically went deaf.

Go figure.

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On 12/5/2019 5:09 AM, pcmacd@gmail.com wrote:
# On Thursday, February 1, 2001 at 6:22:46 PM UTC-7, Mike Roce wrote:
# # I might be working with it soon, and I'd like to know how much hearing
# # protection to bring with me. I'm used to the firing range, where I sit
# # beside people discharging everything from .222 to 12 Gauge shotguns, and
# # fire .30 calibre myself. But surely a 105 or 155 mm howitzer is much louder.
# # Nobody's told me yet what to do about that!
# #
# # If anyone here knows, or can direct me to a good artillery link, please let # # me know.
#
# I know a guy who was in a WWII howitzer battery that practically went deaf.
#
# Go figure.
#
Below is a link that may help. I worked around artillery, jets etc. and
always wore external type earmuffs as much as possible. This was in the
60's and I would guess ear protection is much better these days. If I
had internal ear protection in addition to the ear muffs it would have
been better, since the concussion from blast sometimes would move the
ear muffs and it was painful. I have constant buzz in ears today, but
don't hear any voices.<BG>
MR

http://www.noiseandhealth.org/article.asp?issn=1463-1741;year=1999;volume=2;issue=5;spage=1;epage=15;aulast=Dancer

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pcmacd@gmail.com on Thu, 5 Dec 2019 10:09:25 +0000 (UTC) typed in
rec.guns the following:
#On Thursday, February 1, 2001 at 6:22:46 PM UTC-7, Mike Roce wrote:
## I might be working with it soon, and I'd like to know how much hearing
## protection to bring with me. I'm used to the firing range, where I sit
## beside people discharging everything from .222 to 12 Gauge shotguns, and
## fire .30 calibre myself. But surely a 105 or 155 mm howitzer is much louder. ## Nobody's told me yet what to do about that!
##
## If anyone here knows, or can direct me to a good artillery link, please let ## me know.
#
#I know a guy who was in a WWII howitzer battery that practically went deaf.
#
#Go figure.

A) it is loud.
B) really loud.
C) the shockwave moves dirt - not just the dust - dirt.
D) no matter how much hearing protection you have, you are going
to feel the sound.

So, if it were me, and I had time to prepare, earplugs _and_
earmuffs.


--
pyotr filipivich
Next month's Panel: Graft - Boon or blessing?

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On 12/5/2019 10:24 PM, pyotr filipivich wrote:
# pcmacd@gmail.com on Thu, 5 Dec 2019 10:09:25 +0000 (UTC) typed in
# rec.guns the following:
# #On Thursday, February 1, 2001 at 6:22:46 PM UTC-7, Mike Roce wrote:
# ## I might be working with it soon, and I'd like to know how much hearing
# ## protection to bring with me. I'm used to the firing range, where I sit
# ## beside people discharging everything from .222 to 12 Gauge shotguns, and
# ## fire .30 calibre myself. But surely a 105 or 155 mm howitzer is much louder.
# ## Nobody's told me yet what to do about that!
# ##
# ## If anyone here knows, or can direct me to a good artillery link, please let
# ## me know.
# #
# #I know a guy who was in a WWII howitzer battery that practically went deaf. # #
# #Go figure.
#
# A) it is loud.
# B) really loud.
# C) the shockwave moves dirt - not just the dust - dirt.
# D) no matter how much hearing protection you have, you are going
# to feel the sound.
#
# So, if it were me, and I had time to prepare, earplugs _and_
# earmuffs.

I always wear plugs plus muffs when shooting at my club. Even when I was working there were areas where ear protection was required.

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On Sunday, December 8, 2019 at 7:21:13 AM UTC-7, Frank wrote:
# On 12/5/2019 10:24 PM, pyotr filipivich wrote:
# # pcmacd@gmail.com on Thu, 5 Dec 2019 10:09:25 +0000 (UTC) typed in
# # rec.guns the following:
# # #On Thursday, February 1, 2001 at 6:22:46 PM UTC-7, Mike Roce wrote:
# # ## I might be working with it soon, and I'd like to know how much hearing
# # ## protection to bring with me. I'm used to the firing range, where I sit
# # ## beside people discharging everything from .222 to 12 Gauge shotguns, and # # ## fire .30 calibre myself. But surely a 105 or 155 mm howitzer is much louder.
# # ## Nobody's told me yet what to do about that!
# # ##
# # ## If anyone here knows, or can direct me to a good artillery link, please let
# # ## me know.
# # #
# # #I know a guy who was in a WWII howitzer battery that practically went deaf.
# # #
# # #Go figure.
# #
# # A) it is loud.
# # B) really loud.
# # C) the shockwave moves dirt - not just the dust - dirt.
# # D) no matter how much hearing protection you have, you are going
# # to feel the sound.
# #
# # So, if it were me, and I had time to prepare, earplugs _and_
# # earmuffs.
#
# I always wear plugs plus muffs when shooting at my club. Even when I was
# working there were areas where ear protection was required.

Let's put it this way?

I know a guy who was on a 155 howitzer battery in WWII, Europe.

He was stone deaf, and had issues hearing even with electronic aids.

The percussion is so much that i doubt that even ear plugs and muffs could have saved his hearing? But, of course, they had none of that stuff back then.

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