• Flour & cement powder rat poison - queries

    From Leo Mikhaylov@21:1/5 to Gas Bag on Thu Oct 22 16:56:25 2020
    On Wednesday, January 26, 2011 at 4:58:22 AM UTC-8, Gas Bag wrote:
    I've recently come across some articles that mention you can make your
    own "non-toxic" rat/mouse posion by making a 50:50 mixture of regular/
    corn flour and cement powder. They eat the mixture, then go in search
    of water. Once they drink some water....game over. I have a few
    specific questions, in relation to this D.I.Y. rat poison.
    - How effective is this mixture at killing rats and/or mice?
    - Assuming you place this mixture indoors (e.g. in the roof space),
    will this poison ONLY take effect once the rodent goes outside for a
    drink of water? The reason being, I'd want to avoid at-all-costs
    having Ratty "snuff it" in my roof space, then having the most God-
    awful smell to contend with a few days later.
    - Is there anything that can be added to this mixture that would make
    it extremely enticing to rats and/or mice? e.g. Powdered parmesan
    cheese, sugar, salt, a little soy/fish sauce, some type of finely
    chopped meat (raw or cooked)? I am just taking a wild guess here, as
    I don't know what would attract them.
    - Most of all, would tile grouting powder, used for bathroom tiling,
    work just as well as cement powder in this D.I.Y. mixture?
    I really would appreciate some advice. Thanks.


    They do eat the mixture especially if you cook the flour in a frying pan until it turns slightly brown, then mix in the concrete. I don't know what happens to the rats because mine are outdoors underground.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Dbryan@21:1/5 to All on Wed Dec 2 01:15:03 2020
    XPost: alt.home.repair, alt.consumers.pest-control

    I use this and it works great- I use a yogurt container to keep it contained and dry by the chickens.I use chick starter feed and cement

    --
    For full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/maintenance/flour-cement-powder-rat-poison-queries-617335-.htm

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Briscoe@21:1/5 to All on Thu Dec 10 00:02:25 2020
    XPost: alt.home.repair, alt.consumers.pest-control

    Sometimes you have to start with higher percentage of flour. They will die where they die. No guarantees. As they learn to eat it increase dry cement. At least my dogs and cats didn't eat it. Kills all rodents.

    --
    For full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/maintenance/flour-cement-powder-rat-poison-queries-617335-.htm

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From RonTheGuy@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 1 22:12:42 2021
    On Dec 09, 2020, Briscoe wrote
    (in article<news:164f31fac4ba98bd$1$927026$4036de63@news.newsgroupdirect.com>):

    Sometimes you have to start with higher percentage of flour.

    Glutin free?

    Ron, the humblest guy in town.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Frank <"frank@21:1/5 to Una on Sun Apr 18 19:39:53 2021
    XPost: alt.home.repair, alt.consumers.pest-control

    On 4/18/2021 7:31 PM, Una wrote:
    Ah u must be American.  most of yr urban wildlife- aka birds, small
    mammals, lizards etc already dead due to pussycats.
    Here in Australia, cats are considered feral animals altho they are
    still widespread as pets.  They kill native birds, small possums, etc at
    a rate of about 100/year.  Most rodent poisons have a secondary kill in
    them which takes out owls and other predators who eat the poisoned
    rodent. Try the cement flour method and leave access to water right
    outside the building w the infestation.  Might just do the trick without harm to native wildlife.


    Might be of interest to note that rodents cannot throw up. Once they
    swallow a poison they can only excrete it. That is one reason why they
    are used to test toxicity of substances.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Una@21:1/5 to All on Sun Apr 18 23:31:00 2021
    XPost: alt.home.repair, alt.consumers.pest-control

    Ah u must be American. most of yr urban wildlife- aka birds, small mammals, lizards etc already dead due to pussycats.
    Here in Australia, cats are considered feral animals altho they are still widespread as pets. They kill native birds, small possums, etc at a rate of about 100/year. Most rodent poisons have a secondary kill in them which takes out owls and other
    predators who eat the poisoned rodent.
    Try the cement flour method and leave access to water right outside the building w the infestation. Might just do the trick without harm to native wildlife.

    --
    For full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/maintenance/flour-cement-powder-rat-poison-queries-617335-.htm

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Rod Speed@21:1/5 to Una on Mon Apr 19 12:22:46 2021
    XPost: alt.home.repair, alt.consumers.pest-control

    Una <5274cb8756bfd0f99c18b2cfcfaace7d@example.com> wrote

    Ah u must be American. most of yr urban wildlife- aka birds, small
    mammals, lizards etc already dead due to pussycats.

    Here in Australia, cats are considered feral animals

    So are humans.

    altho they are still widespread as pets.

    Funny that.

    They kill native birds, small possums, etc at a rate of about 100/year.

    Bullshit they do.

    Most rodent poisons have a secondary kill in them which takes out owls and other predators who eat the poisoned rodent.

    They don’t get to eat the ones that die in my house.

    Try the cement flour method and leave access to water right outside the building w the infestation.

    Doesn’t work.

    Might just do the trick without harm to native wildlife.

    More mindless bullshit.

    --
    For full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/maintenance/flour-cement-powder-rat-poison-queries-617335-.htm

    Pity that’s 10 years old. Try reading more often.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From GearGirl81@21:1/5 to All on Wed May 19 13:45:02 2021
    XPost: alt.home.repair, alt.consumers.pest-control

    Wow could you possibly be more ignorant?! Cats have this little thing they do, ya might of heard of it before, it's called "instinct"... Where do you believe that comes from??? Humans did not create cats either, however humans were the ones to forcibly
    domesticate them. I've never once come across one of the creatures on the "right side" of any door. Most do prefer to be outside fyi, regardless of what your preferences are. Let me guess, you're probably one of those vegan activists who've also went
    against what's scientifically proven to be best for proper feline health, only feeding the poor malnourished thing to eat only salads... People like you should have to take a full course in how to properly and HUMANLY car for any/all pets.

    --
    For full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/maintenance/flour-cement-powder-rat-poison-queries-617335-.htm

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From rbowman@21:1/5 to All on Wed May 19 19:47:01 2021
    XPost: alt.home.repair, alt.consumers.pest-control

    On 05/19/2021 07:45 AM, GearGirl81 wrote:
    Wow could you possibly be more ignorant?! Cats have this little thing
    they do, ya might of heard of it before, it's called "instinct"... Where
    do you believe that comes from??? Humans did not create cats either,
    however humans were the ones to forcibly domesticate them. I've never
    once come across one of the creatures on the "right side" of any door.
    Most do prefer to be outside fyi, regardless of what your preferences are.

    Cat seems happy sitting on my lap getting petted but it's chilly and
    rainy outside. If he gets the urge to go out he know enough to scratch
    on the door. I didn't exactly domesticate him either. He was pretty
    feral when I put some food out for other cats but soon decided regular
    meals were a good thing and became territorial.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Tekkie⌐@21:1/5 to All on Thu May 20 16:53:00 2021
    XPost: alt.home.repair, alt.consumers.pest-control

    On Wed, 19 May 2021 19:47:01 -0600, rbowman posted for all of us to digest...


    On 05/19/2021 07:45 AM, GearGirl81 wrote:
    Wow could you possibly be more ignorant?! Cats have this little thing
    they do, ya might of heard of it before, it's called "instinct"... Where
    do you believe that comes from??? Humans did not create cats either, however humans were the ones to forcibly domesticate them. I've never
    once come across one of the creatures on the "right side" of any door.
    Most do prefer to be outside fyi, regardless of what your preferences are.

    Cat seems happy sitting on my lap getting petted but it's chilly and
    rainy outside. If he gets the urge to go out he know enough to scratch
    on the door. I didn't exactly domesticate him either. He was pretty
    feral when I put some food out for other cats but soon decided regular
    meals were a good thing and became territorial.

    Cats are cats. Mine likes regular food, litter box, pets, etc. She trained me, not the other way around. Rescue cat. Must be a PETA poster.

    --
    Tekkie

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From rbowman@21:1/5 to All on Thu May 20 20:06:58 2021
    XPost: alt.home.repair, alt.consumers.pest-control

    On 05/20/2021 02:53 PM, Tekkie� wrote:

    On Wed, 19 May 2021 19:47:01 -0600, rbowman posted for all of us to digest...


    On 05/19/2021 07:45 AM, GearGirl81 wrote:
    Wow could you possibly be more ignorant?! Cats have this little thing
    they do, ya might of heard of it before, it's called "instinct"... Where >>> do you believe that comes from??? Humans did not create cats either,
    however humans were the ones to forcibly domesticate them. I've never
    once come across one of the creatures on the "right side" of any door.
    Most do prefer to be outside fyi, regardless of what your preferences are. >>
    Cat seems happy sitting on my lap getting petted but it's chilly and
    rainy outside. If he gets the urge to go out he know enough to scratch
    on the door. I didn't exactly domesticate him either. He was pretty
    feral when I put some food out for other cats but soon decided regular
    meals were a good thing and became territorial.

    Cats are cats. Mine likes regular food, litter box, pets, etc. She trained me,
    not the other way around. Rescue cat. Must be a PETA poster.


    This one isn't big on pets. There are a couple of other cats that he
    will tolerate eating from his bowl but mostly any cat that wanders in
    the yard is in for an ass-kicking. A friendly tabby was rubbing my legs
    when I was getting in the car yesterday so I put some Friskies in a dish
    for her at the end of the driveway. No go. He left his full bowl to run
    her off.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Tekkie⌐@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 24 14:05:45 2021
    XPost: alt.home.repair, alt.consumers.pest-control

    On Thu, 20 May 2021 20:06:58 -0600, rbowman posted for all of us to digest...


    On 05/20/2021 02:53 PM, Tekkie? wrote:

    On Wed, 19 May 2021 19:47:01 -0600, rbowman posted for all of us to digest...


    On 05/19/2021 07:45 AM, GearGirl81 wrote:
    Wow could you possibly be more ignorant?! Cats have this little thing
    they do, ya might of heard of it before, it's called "instinct"... Where >>> do you believe that comes from??? Humans did not create cats either,
    however humans were the ones to forcibly domesticate them. I've never
    once come across one of the creatures on the "right side" of any door. >>> Most do prefer to be outside fyi, regardless of what your preferences are.

    Cat seems happy sitting on my lap getting petted but it's chilly and
    rainy outside. If he gets the urge to go out he know enough to scratch
    on the door. I didn't exactly domesticate him either. He was pretty
    feral when I put some food out for other cats but soon decided regular
    meals were a good thing and became territorial.

    Cats are cats. Mine likes regular food, litter box, pets, etc. She trained me,
    not the other way around. Rescue cat. Must be a PETA poster.


    This one isn't big on pets. There are a couple of other cats that he
    will tolerate eating from his bowl but mostly any cat that wanders in
    the yard is in for an ass-kicking. A friendly tabby was rubbing my legs
    when I was getting in the car yesterday so I put some Friskies in a dish
    for her at the end of the driveway. No go. He left his full bowl to run
    her off.

    He's the Alpha male of the family!

    --
    Tekkie

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Una@21:1/5 to All on Wed Apr 20 02:02:09 2022
    XPost: alt.home.repair, alt.consumers.pest-control

    HA. No way I can seal openings to my house...I'd have to rebuild the monster. BUT one benefit, I do have a huge carpet snake who reigns supreme in the roof cavity and have had no rats/mice since in there. BUT the sheds on our place are home sweet home
    to them and I do use poison there to control the numbers. ALWAYs make sure the bait is inside a container to keep domestic pets, owls, children from getting into it. OR fasten the pellets w holes thru em with wire to weights so rodents can't drag it
    outside. which they will do. then u risk killing pets, kids, raptors etc. a big NO NO.
    I use the flour/cement so there's no risk of secondary kill...altho I'm sure anything eating a rat w cement guts will get severe indigestion- i'm hoping they're smart enough to spit out the bad bits. Another thing, when u find dead rodents from baiting..
    .please do bury them really deep, perhaps w a rock on em too to protect wildlife.

    --
    For full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/maintenance/flour-cement-powder-rat-poison-queries-617335-.htm

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Una@21:1/5 to All on Wed Apr 20 03:31:51 2022
    XPost: alt.home.repair, alt.consumers.pest-control

    You need to keep them inside because they are adept murderers of wildlife. They say approximately 120 birds/mammals die yearly for each cat left to roam outside. CATS ARE FERAL ANIMALS HERE. I love cats but would never have one that roamed outside. I'
    d have a cat door into a screened outdoor cat room. Sorry but we've been slackers for far too long on this. IF you love cats...you gotta make the space to suit them. DIY wouldn't cost u much so that's the cost of responsible pet ownership.

    --
    For full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/maintenance/flour-cement-powder-rat-poison-queries-617335-.htm

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Rod Speed@21:1/5 to Una on Wed Apr 20 14:12:45 2022
    XPost: alt.home.repair, alt.consumers.pest-control

    Una <5274cb8756bfd0f99c18b2cfcfaace7d@example.com> wrote

    You need to keep them inside because they are adept murderers of
    wildlife. They say approximately 120 birds/mammals die yearly for each
    cat left to roam outside.

    Don't believe that stupid number with domestic cats.

    CATS ARE FERAL ANIMALS HERE. I love catsbut would never have one that roamed outside.

    That is a very cruel way to treat a cat.

    I'd have a cat door into a screened outdoor cat room.

    That is nothing like what most cats want.

    Sorry but we've been slackers for far too long on this. IF you love cats...you gotta make the space to suit them. DIY wouldn't cost u much
    so that's the cost of responsible pet ownership.

    Bullshit.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From dafyddcoch@21:1/5 to All on Thu May 12 17:01:54 2022
    XPost: alt.home.repair, alt.consumers.pest-control

    Same argument applies to your good self! Do you go out? What about being run over by a car? Catching a disease from someone who hasn't washed their hands after going to the toilet or picking their nose, being chased by a viscous dog, mugged for your
    phone and or wallet (at least a cat hasn't got that to worry about!). Have you never come across the issues of animal mental health, animal wellbeing, animal psychology? Grow up and think about the animal's welfare instead of your own anthropomorphic '
    feel good' emotions.Try reading a book about these issues and inform yourself.

    --
    For full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/maintenance/flour-cement-powder-rat-poison-queries-617335-.htm

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From lacksey@21:1/5 to e389611d5aa4056a888826315e1ef05c@ex on Fri May 13 05:46:41 2022
    XPost: alt.home.repair, alt.consumers.pest-control

    On Fri, 13 May 2022 03:01:54 +1000, dafyddcoch <e389611d5aa4056a888826315e1ef05c@example.com> wrote:

    Same argument applies to your good self! Do you go out? What about being
    run over by a car? Catching a disease from someone who hasn't washed
    their hands after going to the toilet or picking their nose, being
    chased by a viscous dog, mugged for your phone and or wallet (at least a
    cat hasn't got that to worry about!). Have you never come across the
    issues of animal mental health, animal wellbeing, animal psychology?
    Grow up and think about the animal's welfare instead of your own anthropomorphic 'feel good' emotions.Try reading a book about these
    issues and inform yourself.

    Only 11 years this time.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)