• Garlic

    From Frank <"frank@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 24 12:52:06 2021
    Last October mentioned garlic wife had planted wondering if it would
    survive the winter cold and snow. Here it is the end of May and I
    noticed wilting of a plant in a pot on the deck and I just pulled a
    mature bulb from the pot.

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  • From deraldm@invalid.net@21:1/5 to Sometime recently you on Mon May 24 14:05:06 2021
    Sometime recently you wrote:

    Last October mentioned garlic wife had planted wondering if it would
    survive the winter cold and snow.
    I had begun to have misgivings about my ginger for the same reason
    (without the snow, of course). A couple of weeks ago, I noticed green
    shoots peeking up between the leaves in its tub and, 'yaay, it's
    ginger. Just the grocerey store stuff and kind of bland, not spicy
    hot but still pretty tasty and a lot less pricey than the current
    $2.49/lb at the local off-price store.
    --
    Derald
    USDA Zone 9b
    Peninsular Florida

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  • From Pavel314@21:1/5 to Frank on Mon May 24 13:16:13 2021
    On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 12:52:09 PM UTC-4, Frank wrote:
    Last October mentioned garlic wife had planted wondering if it would
    survive the winter cold and snow. Here it is the end of May and I
    noticed wilting of a plant in a pot on the deck and I just pulled a
    mature bulb from the pot.

    Last year we put up a hoop house over my wife's garlic row. This was a plastic sheet over seven plastic hoops anchored to the ground with sections of rebar. The whole thing was about 24 feet long, 4 feet wide, and about 2 feet high at the high point in
    the middle of the hoops. The garlic grew under there, undisturbed for the winter. We live in Maryland, north of Baltimore and a few miles in from Chesapeake Bay. We had a mild winter but there were a few freezing periods and some snow flurries.

    We uncovered the hoop house a couple of weeks ago and the garlic were growing very well. She's harvested much of it and has it on the drying rack at the moment.

    Paul

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  • From songbird@21:1/5 to Frank on Mon May 24 19:23:22 2021
    Frank wrote:
    Last October mentioned garlic wife had planted wondering if it would
    survive the winter cold and snow. Here it is the end of May and I
    noticed wilting of a plant in a pot on the deck and I just pulled a
    mature bulb from the pot.

    that's pretty early!

    i won't think about harvesting bulbs until the scapes start
    showing up and a few of the lower leaves start to turn color.

    in the meantime i have green garlic i can dig up and use.

    i saw some pictures of someone's harvest of garlic from
    the south that they took up a few weeks ago. to me it looked
    too early and small. i hated to say anything about that so
    i didn't.

    as a coincidence today i used up some of the garlic i had
    put into storage from last year. it was just barely accept-
    able for what i was doing with it, but if i'd wanted to dry
    it or grind it and freeze it i could have had a small container
    of garlic from the four bulbs i had left. instead i chopped
    it all up (after using what i needed) and fed it to the worms.


    songbird

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  • From songbird@21:1/5 to deraldm@invalid.net on Mon May 24 19:24:13 2021
    deraldm@invalid.net wrote:
    Sometime recently you wrote:

    Last October mentioned garlic wife had planted wondering if it would >>survive the winter cold and snow.

    I had begun to have misgivings about my ginger for the same reason
    (without the snow, of course). A couple of weeks ago, I noticed green
    shoots peeking up between the leaves in its tub and, 'yaay, it's
    ginger. Just the grocerey store stuff and kind of bland, not spicy
    hot but still pretty tasty and a lot less pricey than the current
    $2.49/lb at the local off-price store.

    fresh ginger is so different from powdered or pickled
    that i consider it a whole different spice/ingredient.
    so good. :)


    songbird

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  • From T@21:1/5 to songbird on Mon May 24 19:32:08 2021
    On 5/24/21 4:23 PM, songbird wrote:
    but if i'd wanted to dry
    it or grind it and freeze it i could have had a small container
    of garlic from the four bulbs i had left. instead i chopped
    it all up (after using what i needed) and fed it to the worms.

    Did the worms demand some oregano and parsley to
    go with the garlic?

    :-)

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  • From songbird@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 24 23:23:14 2021
    T wrote:
    On 5/24/21 4:23 PM, songbird wrote:
    but if i'd wanted to dry
    it or grind it and freeze it i could have had a small container
    of garlic from the four bulbs i had left. instead i chopped
    it all up (after using what i needed) and fed it to the worms.

    Did the worms demand some oregano and parsley to
    go with the garlic?

    :-)

    they're not too picky. along with the garlic they got
    carrot ends, broccoli and cauliflower stems, dried ends of
    green onions and lettuce cores and leaves that were too
    far gone. the buckets also had some dried up pea sprouts
    that needed to be buried so that was yet another green -
    they probably eat better than i do... i also have egg
    shells that get included along with paper and cardboard
    scraps. not much organic material gets put out with the
    recycling here.


    songbird

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  • From T@21:1/5 to songbird on Tue May 25 17:09:07 2021
    On 5/24/21 8:23 PM, songbird wrote:
    T wrote:
    On 5/24/21 4:23 PM, songbird wrote:
    but if i'd wanted to dry
    it or grind it and freeze it i could have had a small container
    of garlic from the four bulbs i had left. instead i chopped
    it all up (after using what i needed) and fed it to the worms.

    Did the worms demand some oregano and parsley to
    go with the garlic?

    :-)

    they're not too picky. along with the garlic they got
    carrot ends, broccoli and cauliflower stems, dried ends of
    green onions and lettuce cores and leaves that were too
    far gone. the buckets also had some dried up pea sprouts
    that needed to be buried so that was yet another green -
    they probably eat better than i do... i also have egg
    shells that get included along with paper and cardboard
    scraps. not much organic material gets put out with the
    recycling here.


    songbird


    Dang! A gourmet restaurant for worms. You aught to
    start charging them for your services!

    Wait, you already do that when you steal their
    poop to fertilize your garden.

    :-)

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  • From songbird@21:1/5 to All on Wed May 26 14:03:22 2021
    T wrote:
    ...
    Dang! A gourmet restaurant for worms. You aught to
    start charging them for your services!

    Wait, you already do that when you steal their
    poop to fertilize your garden.

    :-)

    the sad thing is that when i put them out into the
    gardens only a few survive. adult worms really don't
    cope well with rapid change in soil conditions on
    top of the fact that many of them are not natives so
    they will not survive the weather extremes.

    the worms that will survive are those that are natives
    and who are just about to hatch from their cocoons and
    perhaps some of the smaller ones that have a chance to
    acclimate.

    i don't steal their poop. i just take the buckets
    out and put them where i want to use their poop/pee
    and then i keep a few buckets back which are used to
    restart the buckets. to take the time to sift the
    worms from the buckets would take way too long and i'm
    not running a fancy setup where i could be more able
    to let the worms migrate like some do. that's both
    more expensive and takes more equipment than a simple
    bucket like what i'm doing.


    songbird

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  • From T@21:1/5 to songbird on Wed May 26 11:35:37 2021
    On 5/26/21 11:03 AM, songbird wrote:
    T wrote:
    ...
    Dang! A gourmet restaurant for worms. You aught to
    start charging them for your services!

    Wait, you already do that when you steal their
    poop to fertilize your garden.

    :-)

    the sad thing is that when i put them out into the
    gardens only a few survive. adult worms really don't
    cope well with rapid change in soil conditions on
    top of the fact that many of them are not natives so
    they will not survive the weather extremes.

    the worms that will survive are those that are natives
    and who are just about to hatch from their cocoons and
    perhaps some of the smaller ones that have a chance to
    acclimate.

    i don't steal their poop. i just take the buckets
    out and put them where i want to use their poop/pee
    and then i keep a few buckets back which are used to
    restart the buckets. to take the time to sift the
    worms from the buckets would take way too long and i'm
    not running a fancy setup where i could be more able
    to let the worms migrate like some do. that's both
    more expensive and takes more equipment than a simple
    bucket like what i'm doing.


    songbird


    They sound really pampered. I can hear the now:

    Fred: slave is briging more table scraps!

    Harvey: Hmmm. These vegi's taste like they
    were grown in our poop.

    Fred: I am pretty sure that was your poop Fred

    <fight ensues>

    One of the local's sells a quart of the stuff
    for 80 U$D. That will be a cold day in ...

    My ground pots now all have a single resident worm.

    :-)

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