• Might be a bit early ... but planted a few things

    From Dan Purgert@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 11 19:34:45 2023
    With the weather being warm enough that the weeds are starting to come
    in (and some onion-looking things that were planted by the previous
    owner), decided to take the past weekend and dig out the first two of
    this year's planned three experimental vegetable beds, and plant some
    onion sets, garlic, and potatoes; which should all be hardy enough to
    survive any of this year's remaining frosts (SHOULD).

    Also planted a few containers with beans and peas, because I can move
    those inside at night, and let everything stay warm. Not sure how bad
    of an idea it is; but they're container varieties, so we'll see.

    Then it's just waiting about 2 weeks (maybe 2 and a half) to pass the
    50% light frost date so I can comfortably start planting the less hardy
    things I wanted to try. Not all that concerned that it's 50% chance,
    since I have more than enough seed packets to kill off a row or two of
    the leafy things I grabbed.

    It's not quite "edible", but I've also got plans for a few flower
    gardens around the property to make things look ever so slightly better.


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  • From songbird@21:1/5 to Dan Purgert on Tue Apr 11 20:02:58 2023
    Dan Purgert wrote:
    With the weather being warm enough that the weeds are starting to come
    in (and some onion-looking things that were planted by the previous
    owner), decided to take the past weekend and dig out the first two of
    this year's planned three experimental vegetable beds, and plant some
    onion sets, garlic, and potatoes; which should all be hardy enough to
    survive any of this year's remaining frosts (SHOULD).

    garlic is up and growing here along with many of the onion
    species.


    Also planted a few containers with beans and peas, because I can move
    those inside at night, and let everything stay warm. Not sure how bad
    of an idea it is; but they're container varieties, so we'll see.

    Then it's just waiting about 2 weeks (maybe 2 and a half) to pass the
    50% light frost date so I can comfortably start planting the less hardy things I wanted to try. Not all that concerned that it's 50% chance,
    since I have more than enough seed packets to kill off a row or two of
    the leafy things I grabbed.

    all pretty much what i would do here, but i don't do too
    much container gardening.

    i won't be putting any peas in for another week or two
    and some potentially sacrificial beans (because i have
    several gallons of seeds of those so if i lose a row or
    two it isn't a huge problem).


    It's not quite "edible", but I've also got plans for a few flower
    gardens around the property to make things look ever so slightly better.

    :)

    early spring flowers are nice to have in, some daffodils and
    hyacinths are out, the earliest irises are up and mostly gone
    and some of the other earliest flowers.


    songbird

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  • From Dan Purgert@21:1/5 to songbird on Wed Apr 12 11:27:45 2023
    On 2023-04-12, songbird wrote:
    Dan Purgert wrote:
    With the weather being warm enough that the weeds are starting to come
    in (and some onion-looking things that were planted by the previous
    owner), decided to take the past weekend and dig out the first two of
    this year's planned three experimental vegetable beds, and plant some
    onion sets, garlic, and potatoes; which should all be hardy enough to
    survive any of this year's remaining frosts (SHOULD).

    garlic is up and growing here along with many of the onion
    species.

    Yeah, the couple of onions / garlic bulbs that already had shoots coming
    out seem to have taken a liking to the dirt, and I have 2 or 3 popping
    up through the mulch.

    Also planted a few containers with beans and peas, because I can move
    those inside at night, and let everything stay warm. Not sure how bad
    of an idea it is; but they're container varieties, so we'll see.

    [...]
    all pretty much what i would do here, but i don't do too
    much container gardening.

    I wasn't too keen on the idea, but I already had the containers from a
    try last year at making the back deck look a little less barren. Didn't
    work out, as the pots ended up looking a bit like islands out there ...


    i won't be putting any peas in for another week or two
    and some potentially sacrificial beans (because i have
    several gallons of seeds of those so if i lose a row or
    two it isn't a huge problem).


    It's not quite "edible", but I've also got plans for a few flower
    gardens around the property to make things look ever so slightly better.

    :)

    early spring flowers are nice to have in, some daffodils and
    hyacinths are out, the earliest irises are up and mostly gone
    and some of the other earliest flowers.

    Yeah, soon as I get the seed, I'm gonna be sowing the flowers in a
    rather dilapidated-looking bed on the side of the house. Found a local
    company that sells a mix of shade-tolerant (thriving?) annuals and
    perennials that're supposed to attract butterflies and other
    pollinators, so hopefully it works out well.

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  • From Thomas@21:1/5 to Dan Purgert on Sun Apr 16 04:01:31 2023
    On Wednesday, April 12, 2023 at 7:27:48 AM UTC-4, Dan Purgert wrote:
    On 2023-04-12, songbird wrote:
    Dan Purgert wrote:
    With the weather being warm enough that the weeds are starting to come
    in (and some onion-looking things that were planted by the previous
    owner), decided to take the past weekend and dig out the first two of
    this year's planned three experimental vegetable beds, and plant some
    onion sets, garlic, and potatoes; which should all be hardy enough to
    survive any of this year's remaining frosts (SHOULD).

    garlic is up and growing here along with many of the onion
    species.
    Yeah, the couple of onions / garlic bulbs that already had shoots coming
    out seem to have taken a liking to the dirt, and I have 2 or 3 popping
    up through the mulch.
    Also planted a few containers with beans and peas, because I can move
    those inside at night, and let everything stay warm. Not sure how bad
    of an idea it is; but they're container varieties, so we'll see.

    [...]
    all pretty much what i would do here, but i don't do too
    much container gardening.
    I wasn't too keen on the idea, but I already had the containers from a
    try last year at making the back deck look a little less barren. Didn't
    work out, as the pots ended up looking a bit like islands out there ...

    i won't be putting any peas in for another week or two
    and some potentially sacrificial beans (because i have
    several gallons of seeds of those so if i lose a row or
    two it isn't a huge problem).


    It's not quite "edible", but I've also got plans for a few flower
    gardens around the property to make things look ever so slightly better.

    :)

    early spring flowers are nice to have in, some daffodils and
    hyacinths are out, the earliest irises are up and mostly gone
    and some of the other earliest flowers.
    Yeah, soon as I get the seed, I'm gonna be sowing the flowers in a
    rather dilapidated-looking bed on the side of the house. Found a local company that sells a mix of shade-tolerant (thriving?) annuals and perennials that're supposed to attract butterflies and other
    pollinators, so hopefully it works out well.
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    Horseradish in on April 2 with 4 inch leaves now. I planted it opposite a deep old foundation wall so I don't need to worry about creep. Zone 5 PA. Planted some flower seeds yesterday, no idea what they will be other than I was told they will be purple
    lol.

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  • From Michael Trew@21:1/5 to Dan Purgert on Sat Apr 22 21:27:37 2023
    On 4/11/2023 15:34, Dan Purgert wrote:
    With the weather being warm enough that the weeds are starting to come
    in (and some onion-looking things that were planted by the previous
    owner), decided to take the past weekend and dig out the first two of
    this year's planned three experimental vegetable beds, and plant some
    onion sets, garlic, and potatoes; which should all be hardy enough to
    survive any of this year's remaining frosts (SHOULD).

    Also planted a few containers with beans and peas, because I can move
    those inside at night, and let everything stay warm. Not sure how bad
    of an idea it is; but they're container varieties, so we'll see.

    Then it's just waiting about 2 weeks (maybe 2 and a half) to pass the
    50% light frost date so I can comfortably start planting the less hardy things I wanted to try. Not all that concerned that it's 50% chance,
    since I have more than enough seed packets to kill off a row or two of
    the leafy things I grabbed.

    It's not quite "edible", but I've also got plans for a few flower
    gardens around the property to make things look ever so slightly better.



    I really need to get moving on turning over the soil; I've been too
    distracted. I've never done onion/potato sets, but this is as good a
    time to start as any. Suppose I ought to head out and figure out where
    to buy them.

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  • From songbird@21:1/5 to Michael Trew on Sat Apr 22 21:58:40 2023
    Michael Trew wrote:
    ...
    I really need to get moving on turning over the soil; I've been too distracted. I've never done onion/potato sets, but this is as good a
    time to start as any. Suppose I ought to head out and figure out where
    to buy them.

    local big box store garden centers, local greenhouses.


    songbird

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  • From songbird@21:1/5 to songbird on Sat Apr 22 22:04:28 2023
    songbird wrote:
    Michael Trew wrote:
    ...
    I really need to get moving on turning over the soil; I've been too
    distracted. I've never done onion/potato sets, but this is as good a
    time to start as any. Suppose I ought to head out and figure out where
    to buy them.

    local big box store garden centers, local greenhouses.

    oh, and also there might be local grain elevators or other
    agricultural supply type places to check.


    songbird

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  • From Dan Purgert@21:1/5 to songbird on Mon Apr 24 09:29:39 2023
    On 2023-04-23, songbird wrote:
    Michael Trew wrote:
    ...
    I really need to get moving on turning over the soil; I've been too
    distracted. I've never done onion/potato sets, but this is as good a
    time to start as any. Suppose I ought to head out and figure out where
    to buy them.

    local big box store garden centers, local greenhouses.

    I got mine from the local Home Depot or Lowes garden section.

    As of yesterday, many of the onions (about 1/3 to 1/2 or so) have
    sprouted.


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  • From Dan Purgert@21:1/5 to songbird on Mon Apr 24 16:07:28 2023
    On 2023-04-24, songbird wrote:
    Dan Purgert wrote:
    ...
    I got mine from the local Home Depot or Lowes garden section.

    As of yesterday, many of the onions (about 1/3 to 1/2 or so) have
    sprouted.

    i've been growing mine from seeds the past several years.
    learning by doing, plus it is a good way to weed out the
    kinds that will not survive our winters.

    I just bought a "mixed" bag of onion sets. IIRC it's a mix of your "standard(tm) red/white/yellow generic kitchen onion" (or at least the
    bag doesn't talk about what varieties are actually in there). Also
    picked up a seed packet for walla walla because why not try starting in
    trays (and it sounded interesting).


    https://www.anthive.com/project/onions/

    both garlic and onions are well worth learning how to grow
    as once you find varieties you like for eating and cooking
    you'd like to keep using them.

    I'd expand that to "Alliums in general" ; though I have to also be space-conscious (in all I have ~75 sqft of beds, and a few things want
    18" rows, so ... )



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  • From songbird@21:1/5 to Dan Purgert on Mon Apr 24 11:24:46 2023
    Dan Purgert wrote:
    ...
    I got mine from the local Home Depot or Lowes garden section.

    As of yesterday, many of the onions (about 1/3 to 1/2 or so) have
    sprouted.

    i've been growing mine from seeds the past several years.
    learning by doing, plus it is a good way to weed out the
    kinds that will not survive our winters.

    https://www.anthive.com/project/onions/

    both garlic and onions are well worth learning how to grow
    as once you find varieties you like for eating and cooking
    you'd like to keep using them.


    songbird

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  • From songbird@21:1/5 to Dan Purgert on Mon Apr 24 12:42:46 2023
    Dan Purgert wrote:
    songbird wrote:

    ...
    I just bought a "mixed" bag of onion sets. IIRC it's a mix of your "standard(tm) red/white/yellow generic kitchen onion" (or at least the
    bag doesn't talk about what varieties are actually in there). Also
    picked up a seed packet for walla walla because why not try starting in
    trays (and it sounded interesting).

    the larger sets will sometimes flower. i love onion
    flowers so i leave those alone so the bees can get at
    them. :)


    https://www.anthive.com/project/onions/

    both garlic and onions are well worth learning how to grow
    as once you find varieties you like for eating and cooking
    you'd like to keep using them.

    I'd expand that to "Alliums in general" ; though I have to also be space-conscious (in all I have ~75 sqft of beds, and a few things want
    18" rows, so ... )

    yes, that would put a damper on what could be grown.
    large onions do need more space, so those Walla Walla
    seedlings may not get very big if they are planted in
    close quarters.


    songbird

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  • From Michael Trew@21:1/5 to songbird on Mon Apr 24 23:07:31 2023
    On 4/24/2023 11:24, songbird wrote:
    Dan Purgert wrote:
    ...
    I got mine from the local Home Depot or Lowes garden section.

    As of yesterday, many of the onions (about 1/3 to 1/2 or so) have
    sprouted.

    i've been growing mine from seeds the past several years.
    learning by doing, plus it is a good way to weed out the
    kinds that will not survive our winters.

    https://www.anthive.com/project/onions/

    both garlic and onions are well worth learning how to grow
    as once you find varieties you like for eating and cooking
    you'd like to keep using them.


    songbird

    That's what I'm thinking. I've never grown them before (aside from green/spring onions), but my neighbor gave me several home grown red
    potatoes and white onions last year, and they were really good.

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  • From songbird@21:1/5 to Michael Trew on Tue Apr 25 08:20:05 2023
    Michael Trew wrote:
    songird wrote:
    ...
    https://www.anthive.com/project/onions/

    both garlic and onions are well worth learning how to grow
    as once you find varieties you like for eating and cooking
    you'd like to keep using them.

    That's what I'm thinking. I've never grown them before (aside from green/spring onions), but my neighbor gave me several home grown red
    potatoes and white onions last year, and they were really good.

    if you have enough room it's fun, but for sure it can
    also get out of hand if you let those seeds fly all over
    the place. in that way it reminds of me of dill that once
    you let it go to seed someplace it can be hard to remove
    it.

    i try to get the seed heads snipped off and in a tray
    for drying before the seed capsules start breaking open.

    if there's anything lacking in my linked descriptions
    and pictures let me know. :)


    songbird

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  • From Michael Trew@21:1/5 to songbird on Wed Apr 26 01:01:10 2023
    On 4/25/2023 8:20, songbird wrote:
    Michael Trew wrote:
    songird wrote:
    ...
    https://www.anthive.com/project/onions/

    both garlic and onions are well worth learning how to grow
    as once you find varieties you like for eating and cooking
    you'd like to keep using them.

    That's what I'm thinking. I've never grown them before (aside from
    green/spring onions), but my neighbor gave me several home grown red
    potatoes and white onions last year, and they were really good.

    if you have enough room it's fun, but for sure it can
    also get out of hand if you let those seeds fly all over
    the place. in that way it reminds of me of dill that once
    you let it go to seed someplace it can be hard to remove
    it.

    My yard isn't pretty. I don't use any fertilizer, weed spray, etc.
    Even if potatoes/onions took over, I'd sure rather have those growing
    wild (yum!) instead of weeds.

    i try to get the seed heads snipped off and in a tray
    for drying before the seed capsules start breaking open.

    if there's anything lacking in my linked descriptions
    and pictures let me know. :)

    Thanks!

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  • From songbird@21:1/5 to Michael Trew on Wed Apr 26 07:49:37 2023
    Michael Trew wrote:
    ...
    My yard isn't pretty. I don't use any fertilizer, weed spray, etc.
    Even if potatoes/onions took over, I'd sure rather have those growing
    wild (yum!) instead of weeds.

    ha! yes, i'm getting further along each time i get a chance
    on removing what is left of the grass/lawn and replacing it by
    gardens. i'd much rather garden than mow any time.


    songbird

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