• ping songbird: how may pepper seeds?

    From T@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 15 11:10:51 2021
    Hi Songbird,

    I painstakingly collected seeds from my Anaheim (California)
    peppers last fall. I followed collection your directions.

    It is getting close to planting. I have to risk the
    freezes and the hatching earwigs. Too soon the get
    frostbite; too late they get eaten.

    How many seeds would you plant per hole? I do five with zucchini, but
    how many for hot peppers?

    Would you add a bit of organic fertilizer, or wait for
    them to grow a bit first?

    Many thanks,
    -T

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  • From songbird@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 15 19:45:31 2021
    T wrote:
    Hi Songbird,

    I painstakingly collected seeds from my Anaheim (California)
    peppers last fall. I followed collection your directions.

    It is getting close to planting. I have to risk the
    freezes and the hatching earwigs. Too soon the get
    frostbite; too late they get eaten.

    How many seeds would you plant per hole? I do five with zucchini, but
    how many for hot peppers?

    i'm not a pepper expert. :) they are warm weather plants
    so you can't plant them outside into cold ground or chances of
    cold weather at all.

    start them early in pots indoors in a place where the soil
    will be kept warm. that is about all i know about starting
    them aside from the common sense that you don't want them
    to be completely dried out.


    Would you add a bit of organic fertilizer, or wait for
    them to grow a bit first?

    organic fertilizer is usually weak so perhaps ok but to
    my habits i never fertilize anything until it is actively
    growing unless i'm amending the garden for some specific
    plants like tomatoes and onions which don't mind more
    nutrients.


    songbird

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  • From T@21:1/5 to songbird on Thu Apr 15 19:14:43 2021
    On 4/15/21 4:45 PM, songbird wrote:
    T wrote:
    Hi Songbird,

    I painstakingly collected seeds from my Anaheim (California)
    peppers last fall. I followed collection your directions.

    It is getting close to planting. I have to risk the
    freezes and the hatching earwigs. Too soon the get
    frostbite; too late they get eaten.

    How many seeds would you plant per hole? I do five with zucchini, but
    how many for hot peppers?

    i'm not a pepper expert. :) they are warm weather plants
    so you can't plant them outside into cold ground or chances of
    cold weather at all.

    start them early in pots indoors in a place where the soil
    will be kept warm. that is about all i know about starting
    them aside from the common sense that you don't want them
    to be completely dried out.


    Would you add a bit of organic fertilizer, or wait for
    them to grow a bit first?

    organic fertilizer is usually weak so perhaps ok but to
    my habits i never fertilize anything until it is actively
    growing unless i'm amending the garden for some specific
    plants like tomatoes and onions which don't mind more
    nutrients.


    songbird


    Thank you!

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  • From T@21:1/5 to songbird on Fri Apr 16 15:13:58 2021
    On 4/15/21 4:45 PM, songbird wrote:
    start them early in pots indoors

    How many seeds per pot?

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  • From songbird@21:1/5 to All on Sat Apr 17 10:25:23 2021
    T wrote:
    On 4/15/21 4:45 PM, songbird wrote:
    start them early in pots indoors

    How many seeds per pot?

    3-4, how many plants you want?

    warm soil temperature is really important for peppers 80-85F.


    songbird

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  • From T@21:1/5 to songbird on Sat Apr 17 14:49:39 2021
    On 4/17/21 7:25 AM, songbird wrote:
    T wrote:
    On 4/15/21 4:45 PM, songbird wrote:
    start them early in pots indoors

    How many seeds per pot?

    3-4, how many plants you want?

    warm soil temperature is really important for peppers 80-85F.


    songbird


    I have the seeds. You gave me beautiful instructions on
    how to harvest them.

    I am well aware that they may fail because of the cold.
    If I wait too long, earwigs will eat the sprouts.

    I would try them indoors, but my wife is allergic
    to soil (mold allergy). Worst come to worst, I
    will have to buy them from Bonnie from Wally World.

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  • From bill@21:1/5 to All on Sun Apr 18 22:03:55 2021
    On Thu, 15 Apr 2021 19:14:43 -0700, T wrote:

    Thank you!

    Me too!
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    To look sharp.

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  • From Bloke Down The Pub@21:1/5 to T@invalid.invalid on Sat Apr 24 12:03:43 2021
    "T" <T@invalid.invalid> wrote in message news:s5fl5l$m19$1@dont-email.me...
    On 4/17/21 7:25 AM, songbird wrote:
    T wrote:
    On 4/15/21 4:45 PM, songbird wrote:
    start them early in pots indoors

    How many seeds per pot?

    3-4, how many plants you want?

    warm soil temperature is really important for peppers 80-85F.


    songbird


    I have the seeds. You gave me beautiful instructions on
    how to harvest them.

    I am well aware that they may fail because of the cold.
    If I wait too long, earwigs will eat the sprouts.

    I would try them indoors, but my wife is allergic
    to soil (mold allergy). Worst come to worst, I
    will have to buy them from Bonnie from Wally World.

    You could still plant them in pots outside, chose a sheltered position and
    use 2 litre soft drinks bottles with the bottoms cut off as mini green
    houses. Obviously use pots that will fit inside the bottles which will
    protect the soil as well as the plants.

    Mike

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  • From T@21:1/5 to Bloke Down The Pub on Sat Apr 24 00:27:01 2021
    On 4/23/21 9:03 PM, Bloke Down The Pub wrote:
    "T" <T@invalid.invalid> wrote in message news:s5fl5l$m19$1@dont-email.me...
    On 4/17/21 7:25 AM, songbird wrote:
    T wrote:
    On 4/15/21 4:45 PM, songbird wrote:
    start them early in pots indoors

    How many seeds per pot?

    3-4, how many plants you want?

    warm soil temperature is really important for peppers 80-85F.


    songbird


    I have the seeds. You gave me beautiful instructions on
    how to harvest them.

    I am well aware that they may fail because of the cold.
    If I wait too long, earwigs will eat the sprouts.

    I would try them indoors, but my wife is allergic
    to soil (mold allergy). Worst come to worst, I
    will have to buy them from Bonnie from Wally World.

    You could still plant them in pots outside, chose a sheltered position and use 2 litre soft drinks bottles with the bottoms cut off as mini green houses. Obviously use pots that will fit inside the bottles which will protect the soil as well as the plants.

    Mike

    Thank you!

    Do they protect against the freeze?

    Do you need t open them up in the day to let
    new air in and respiration out?

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  • From songbird@21:1/5 to All on Sat Apr 24 07:47:14 2021
    T wrote:
    On 4/23/21 9:03 PM, Bloke Down The Pub wrote:
    "T" <T@invalid.invalid> wrote in message news:s5fl5l$m19$1@dont-email.me... >>> On 4/17/21 7:25 AM, songbird wrote:
    T wrote:
    On 4/15/21 4:45 PM, songbird wrote:
    start them early in pots indoors

    How many seeds per pot?

    3-4, how many plants you want?

    warm soil temperature is really important for peppers 80-85F.


    songbird


    I have the seeds. You gave me beautiful instructions on
    how to harvest them.

    I am well aware that they may fail because of the cold.
    If I wait too long, earwigs will eat the sprouts.

    I would try them indoors, but my wife is allergic
    to soil (mold allergy). Worst come to worst, I
    will have to buy them from Bonnie from Wally World.

    You could still plant them in pots outside, chose a sheltered position and >> use 2 litre soft drinks bottles with the bottoms cut off as mini green
    houses. Obviously use pots that will fit inside the bottles which will
    protect the soil as well as the plants.

    Mike

    Thank you!

    Do they protect against the freeze?

    Do you need t open them up in the day to let
    new air in and respiration out?

    i don't recommend this sort of thing for someone who's not
    around frequenly enough to keep track of conditions.

    you can fry, freeze or dry out a plant too easily left out,
    it's much better to do things in a more controlled area until
    the weather outside gets at least warm enough to make sure
    you're not freezing the plants and you have enough roots in
    the ground to provide a moisture buffer for drying out and also
    the thermal mass which keeps things at least a bit more stable.

    a plant in a pot with a cover over it, you can do that for
    some plants, in dappled light and under trees and such, but
    once there is direct light that can get way too hot too quickly.

    i just know that some people are not that attentive and can
    forget to water or check on things so ... imo better to be
    safer than to lose plants.

    one problem i can have with some planted things in pots here
    are raccoons seeking food or smelling fertilizers and thinking
    they're food. some potting mixes have long-release fertilizers
    included and often that is made with fish emulsions or other
    stuff that smells too much like food to a raccoon.


    songbird

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  • From Bloke Down The Pub@21:1/5 to songbird on Mon Apr 26 12:16:33 2021
    "songbird" <songbird@anthive.com> wrote in message news:23ddlh-kq2.ln1@anthive.com...
    T wrote:
    On 4/23/21 9:03 PM, Bloke Down The Pub wrote:
    "T" <T@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
    news:s5fl5l$m19$1@dont-email.me...
    On 4/17/21 7:25 AM, songbird wrote:
    T wrote:
    On 4/15/21 4:45 PM, songbird wrote:
    start them early in pots indoors

    How many seeds per pot?

    3-4, how many plants you want?

    warm soil temperature is really important for peppers 80-85F.


    songbird


    I have the seeds. You gave me beautiful instructions on
    how to harvest them.

    I am well aware that they may fail because of the cold.
    If I wait too long, earwigs will eat the sprouts.

    I would try them indoors, but my wife is allergic
    to soil (mold allergy). Worst come to worst, I
    will have to buy them from Bonnie from Wally World.

    You could still plant them in pots outside, chose a sheltered position
    and
    use 2 litre soft drinks bottles with the bottoms cut off as mini green
    houses. Obviously use pots that will fit inside the bottles which will
    protect the soil as well as the plants.

    Mike

    Thank you!

    Do they protect against the freeze?

    Do you need t open them up in the day to let
    new air in and respiration out?

    i don't recommend this sort of thing for someone who's not
    around frequenly enough to keep track of conditions.

    you can fry, freeze or dry out a plant too easily left out,
    it's much better to do things in a more controlled area until
    the weather outside gets at least warm enough to make sure
    you're not freezing the plants and you have enough roots in
    the ground to provide a moisture buffer for drying out and also
    the thermal mass which keeps things at least a bit more stable.

    a plant in a pot with a cover over it, you can do that for
    some plants, in dappled light and under trees and such, but
    once there is direct light that can get way too hot too quickly.

    i just know that some people are not that attentive and can
    forget to water or check on things so ... imo better to be
    safer than to lose plants.

    one problem i can have with some planted things in pots here
    are raccoons seeking food or smelling fertilizers and thinking
    they're food. some potting mixes have long-release fertilizers
    included and often that is made with fish emulsions or other
    stuff that smells too much like food to a raccoon.


    songbird

    I agree with most things here you do need to keep them in a sheltered
    position possibly under a tree or the eves of the house, keeping them closed maintains the humidity and if the pots are in a container you can top the container up with water to keep the pots moist. Certainly don't try this in direct sunlight or during the summer, just imagine sitting in your car in
    the sunlight.

    Mike

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  • From T@21:1/5 to songbird on Thu Apr 29 13:54:37 2021
    On 4/24/21 4:47 AM, songbird wrote:
    one problem i can have with some planted things in pots here
    are raccoons seeking food or smelling fertilizers and thinking
    they're food. some potting mixes have long-release fertilizers
    included and often that is made with fish emulsions or other
    stuff that smells too much like food to a raccoon.

    Every so often I see something about sticking some
    fish (Asian carp?) at the bottom of your hole and
    "see what happens". I can't help but think "Oh, I see something dug up
    all my plants with fish under it!"

    :'(

    The fertilizer I use, if chicken scat based.

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  • From Snag@21:1/5 to All on Thu Apr 29 17:16:33 2021
    On 4/29/2021 3:54 PM, T wrote:
    On 4/24/21 4:47 AM, songbird wrote:
    one problem i can have with some planted things in pots here
    are raccoons seeking food or smelling fertilizers and thinking
    they're food.  some potting mixes have long-release fertilizers
    included and often that is made with fish emulsions or other
    stuff that smells too much like food to a raccoon.

    Every so often I see something about sticking some
    fish (Asian carp?) at the bottom of your hole and
    "see what happens".  I can't help but think "Oh, I see something dug up
    all my plants with fish under it!"

    :'(

    The fertilizer I use, if chicken scat based.


    Be careful T , fresh chicken shit can be very hard on your plants . I
    let the hay/shit from out hen house compost for at least 6 months before
    using it on the garden - I don't know the history of the stuff you're
    using so ... Rabbit shit , however , can be used right away , and has
    better long-term nourishment for your plants .
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    Snag
    Race only matters to racists ...

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  • From T@21:1/5 to Snag on Fri Apr 30 02:21:34 2021
    On 4/29/21 3:16 PM, Snag wrote:
    On 4/29/2021 3:54 PM, T wrote:
    On 4/24/21 4:47 AM, songbird wrote:
    one problem i can have with some planted things in pots here
    are raccoons seeking food or smelling fertilizers and thinking
    they're food.  some potting mixes have long-release fertilizers
    included and often that is made with fish emulsions or other
    stuff that smells too much like food to a raccoon.

    Every so often I see something about sticking some
    fish (Asian carp?) at the bottom of your hole and
    "see what happens".  I can't help but think "Oh, I see something dug
    up all my plants with fish under it!"

    :'(

    The fertilizer I use, if chicken scat based.


      Be careful T , fresh chicken shit can be very hard on your plants . I let the hay/shit from out hen house compost for at least 6 months before using it on the garden - I don't know the history of the stuff you're
    using so ... Rabbit shit , however , can be used right away , and has
    better long-term nourishment for your plants .

    Ya, I have heard that several places.

    I buy my chicken s*** in a bag at wally world. Organic fertilizer for tomatoes (means it has more calcium).

    I have heard that goat s*** works well too.

    And the freakin' neighborhood cats keep s***ing
    in my garden too. Time to place some toothpicks!

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