On Tue, 23 Nov 2021 13:50:02 -0500, Wilson <nowhere@nearyou.com>
wrote:
On 12/14/2020 8:27 AM, pheasant16 wrote:
OK Gang....... Anyone still lurk now that George has passed?Well, this problem has persisted. Almost no lids without buying jars since >> summer canning season. The first I found, which came with rings I didn't
Got caught last summer with pants down, middle of tomatoes ran to grocery >>> store to buy lids; no dice. Hardware store; no dice, farm store; no dice. >>> Throw 'em in the freezer.
Find a few boxes on the internet, a buck a copy. Oh well have a few.
Shopping for Christmas decided to look again; finding lots of lids that are >>> listed as canning, but only address uses that don't involve heat.
Have names I've never heard before, not Ball, Kerr, Jarden, Golden Harvest. >>> Names like COOOFO.
Are these true canning lids or just meant for storage?
Mark
need, were produced by 'Pur' from China. Very flimsy, bent easily when
removed after sealing and had very little sealing 'rubber.' I don't use the >> lids over for canning, but with dried items, I do sometimes and use my
FoodSaver to vacuum seal dry goods. But, even slightly bent won't work.
Not into Amazon or hoarding, but I will being buying a case of Ball or Kerr >> if ever I get a chance again. ;)
I am wary of any new brands for canning items and certainly understand
that concern.
I wonder if you aren't in some regional bubble? We've plenty of Ball
in the markets here in NNJ and larger box stores either have them on
the shelves of will ship to one of their stores near you for you to
pick up. The groceries tend to keep only the smallest of supplies near
this time of year. Holiday goods seem to take over the shelves.
I do not consider myself a lid hoarder, but almost always have a few
dozen lids around just in case I want to put something up
unexpectedly. Next week that will be kumquat marmalade as a tree that
I keep out on the deck for the summer, but bring in to overwinter has
decided to ripen fruit like crazy. Nice to have everything here
already.
Wilson wrote:
...
Well, this problem has persisted. Almost no lids without buying jars since >> summer canning season. The first I found, which came with rings I didn't
need, were produced by 'Pur' from China. Very flimsy, bent easily when
removed after sealing and had very little sealing 'rubber.' I don't use the >> lids over for canning, but with dried items, I do sometimes and use my
FoodSaver to vacuum seal dry goods. But, even slightly bent won't work.
Not into Amazon or hoarding, but I will being buying a case of Ball or Kerr >> if ever I get a chance again. ;)
they've been in supply off and on all year for us. right
now i can probably come up with some if needed but we do
have a supply on hand so no need for us to get more.
rumor has it that they will be back more in supply starting
in the spring of 2022. we'll see...
one thing that people do not see recommended but that many
people do is that they will reuse lids. we do that here too
as sometimes a lid has hardly any visible change to it other
than the sealant being a bit disformed, but if you use a
clean jar with a good rim that should seal up again. i've
done this for high acid items and they've sealed a second
time with no failures at all (several hundred quarts).
of course this is at your own risk and potentially some
may fail, but if you stick to higher acid items i think you'll
be fairly safe and then if something doesn't seal you can put
it in the fridge and use it up right away or reprocess with
another lid and try again. to me that's not likely to happen,
we'll just use it up.
the other thing to consider is how expensive the items are
that you're canning. if they're bulk and relatively low
value then you can risk a used lid if you must and don't
have any other options and that ways you can use the new
lids you might have for the higher value items.
we also save good condition used lids for use for things
we put in the freezer (i always prefer things frozen in
glass over plastic - but there are things you must do
right when using glass in the freezer and sometimes even
if you do it right you still might crack a jar here or
there).
so, erm, where was i? :) rambly mood this evening. :)
good luck!
songbird
On 11/24/2021 9:00 AM, Boron Elgar wrote:snip
On Tue, 23 Nov 2021 13:50:02 -0500, Wilson <nowhere@nearyou.com>
wrote:
Not into Amazon or hoarding, but I will being buying a case of Ball or Kerr >>> if ever I get a chance again. ;)
I am wary of any new brands for canning items and certainly understand
that concern.
I wonder if you aren't in some regional bubble? We've plenty of Ball
in the markets here in NNJ and larger box stores either have them on
the shelves of will ship to one of their stores near you for you to
pick up. The groceries tend to keep only the smallest of supplies near
this time of year. Holiday goods seem to take over the shelves.
I do not consider myself a lid hoarder, but almost always have a few
dozen lids around just in case I want to put something up
unexpectedly. Next week that will be kumquat marmalade as a tree that
I keep out on the deck for the summer, but bring in to overwinter has
decided to ripen fruit like crazy. Nice to have everything here
already.
Thanks. In eastern Maine, we are sort of at the end of the line and it could >also have something to do with our Canadian border too. We'll survive and >this year's canning is just about done anyway. Just sharing the pain. ;)
On 11/23/2021 6:46 PM, songbird wrote:
Wilson wrote:
...
Well, this problem has persisted. Almost no lids without buying jars since >> summer canning season. The first I found, which came with rings I didn't >> need, were produced by 'Pur' from China. Very flimsy, bent easily when
removed after sealing and had very little sealing 'rubber.' I don't use the
lids over for canning, but with dried items, I do sometimes and use my
FoodSaver to vacuum seal dry goods. But, even slightly bent won't work.
Not into Amazon or hoarding, but I will being buying a case of Ball or Kerr
if ever I get a chance again. ;)
they've been in supply off and on all year for us. right
now i can probably come up with some if needed but we do
have a supply on hand so no need for us to get more.
rumor has it that they will be back more in supply starting
in the spring of 2022. we'll see...
one thing that people do not see recommended but that many
people do is that they will reuse lids. we do that here too
as sometimes a lid has hardly any visible change to it other
than the sealant being a bit disformed, but if you use a
clean jar with a good rim that should seal up again. i've
done this for high acid items and they've sealed a second
time with no failures at all (several hundred quarts).
of course this is at your own risk and potentially some
may fail, but if you stick to higher acid items i think you'll
be fairly safe and then if something doesn't seal you can put
it in the fridge and use it up right away or reprocess with
another lid and try again. to me that's not likely to happen,
we'll just use it up.
the other thing to consider is how expensive the items are
that you're canning. if they're bulk and relatively low
value then you can risk a used lid if you must and don't
have any other options and that ways you can use the new
lids you might have for the higher value items.
we also save good condition used lids for use for things
we put in the freezer (i always prefer things frozen in
glass over plastic - but there are things you must do
right when using glass in the freezer and sometimes even
if you do it right you still might crack a jar here or
there).
so, erm, where was i? :) rambly mood this evening. :)
good luck!
songbird
Thanks. We do a lot of re-purposing ourselves. Just like fresh new ones when we pressure cook or give gifts.
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