• finally bought one

    From Eli the Bearded@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jan 29 23:18:25 2021
    No idea if people are still reading this group, but since Computer Nerd
    Kev is active in other groups and apparently has been active in hacking
    on Vextrex systems, maybe yes, and group is just idle.

    After years and years of wanting one, I happened to get some extra money
    at a time when owning a Vextrex was on mind. Bids were made, an auction
    won, and today a system arrived in the mail.

    I have three game carts (Armor Attack, Blitz, and Star Trek), plus light
    pen and Animaction. The controller I have seems a little soft. I see
    Nintendo style replacement controllers available, and I've looked at
    the schematic Tube Time (@tubetimeus on twitter) has created for a
    controller (it's in the scoptrex package on github). Controllers
    look easy to build.

    I don't know if Pitrex, which seems to be a Computer Nerd Kev, project
    is still in active development, but it looks interesting.

    And I see various multicarts available from various places, which should
    be enough to get me Scramble and Berzerk, the other games besides Mine
    Storm and Armor Attack that I recall being particularly good.

    I expect I'll be able to find documentation of how Animaction can be
    used, but I did notice that the vectrex.fandom.com site does not seem to
    have details on that "game".

    What else should I be looking at in 2021?

    Are there plans or kits for homebuilt 3-D viewers?

    Elijah
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  • From Computer Nerd Kev@21:1/5 to Eli the Bearded on Sat Jan 30 01:23:16 2021
    Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> wrote:
    No idea if people are still reading this group, but since Computer Nerd
    Kev is active in other groups and apparently has been active in hacking
    on Vextrex systems, maybe yes, and group is just idle.

    After years and years of wanting one, I happened to get some extra money
    at a time when owning a Vextrex was on mind. Bids were made, an auction
    won, and today a system arrived in the mail.

    I've long wondered about your User-Agent header, glad to hear you've
    finally got the hardware to match!

    I have three game carts (Armor Attack, Blitz, and Star Trek), plus light
    pen and Animaction. The controller I have seems a little soft. I see
    Nintendo style replacement controllers available, and I've looked at
    the schematic Tube Time (@tubetimeus on twitter) has created for a
    controller (it's in the scoptrex package on github). Controllers
    look easy to build.

    The original Vectrex service manual also includes the controller
    schematic. It's certainly among the easier controller designs to
    copy, though if you build one with an analogue joystick it might be
    tricky getting the sensitivity right.

    I don't know if Pitrex, which seems to be a Computer Nerd Kev, project
    is still in active development, but it looks interesting.

    It's still slowly coming together. I'm always getting stuck with
    whatever I try to work on with it software-wise (most recently
    trying to build XFree86, as asked about in other groups), but
    Graham Toal and Malban have got a number of arcade emulators
    working. Also a Vectrex emulator that makes it a sort-of multicart.

    And I see various multicarts available from various places, which should
    be enough to get me Scramble and Berzerk, the other games besides Mine
    Storm and Armor Attack that I recall being particularly good.

    I expect I'll be able to find documentation of how Animaction can be
    used, but I did notice that the vectrex.fandom.com site does not seem to
    have details on that "game".

    The best copy of the original manual would be here: https://vectorgaming.proboards.com/thread/849/vectrex-manual-project

    There was also a Vectrex FTP site, I'm not sure where that is
    online now, I thought it was at the Internet Archive but now I
    can't find it. There's probably nothing in it that hasn't been
    reproduced elsewhere on the web by now, but I look in my local copy
    for plain-text game manuals and other documents.

    What else should I be looking at in 2021?

    VecFever and Vextreme are other things along the lines of the
    PiTrex. There are lots of homebrew games available, as you've
    probably already seen.

    Are there plans or kits for homebuilt 3-D viewers?

    It's possible to modify LCD shutterglasses from 3D TVs, though you
    don't have the colour effect of the original that way.

    There are some older mechanical designs:

    https://www.playvectrex.com/projex_f.htm https://old.madtronix.com/html/3d_imager.html

    Plus there was some info about that on the FTP site as well.

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  • From Phillip Eaton@21:1/5 to Computer Nerd Kev on Sat Jan 30 03:55:58 2021
    On Saturday, 30 January 2021 at 02:23:21 UTC+1, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
    Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> wrote:
    No idea if people are still reading this group, but since Computer Nerd
    Kev is active in other groups and apparently has been active in hacking
    on Vextrex systems, maybe yes, and group is just idle.

    This group is not completely dead.

    Congratulations on becoming a Vectrex owner !

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  • From Mike Garcia@21:1/5 to Eli the Bearded on Sun Jan 31 11:13:05 2021
    Eli the Bearded wrote:
    No idea if people are still reading this group, but since Computer Nerd
    Kev is active in other groups and apparently has been active in hacking
    on Vextrex systems, maybe yes, and group is just idle.

    After years and years of wanting one, I happened to get some extra money
    at a time when owning a Vextrex was on mind. Bids were made, an auction
    won, and today a system arrived in the mail.

    I have three game carts (Armor Attack, Blitz, and Star Trek), plus light
    pen and Animaction. The controller I have seems a little soft. I see
    Nintendo style replacement controllers available, and I've looked at
    the schematic Tube Time (@tubetimeus on twitter) has created for a
    controller (it's in the scoptrex package on github). Controllers
    look easy to build.

    I don't know if Pitrex, which seems to be a Computer Nerd Kev, project
    is still in active development, but it looks interesting.

    And I see various multicarts available from various places, which should
    be enough to get me Scramble and Berzerk, the other games besides Mine
    Storm and Armor Attack that I recall being particularly good.

    I expect I'll be able to find documentation of how Animaction can be
    used, but I did notice that the vectrex.fandom.com site does not seem to
    have details on that "game".

    What else should I be looking at in 2021?

    Are there plans or kits for homebuilt 3-D viewers?

    Elijah
    ------
    not great with electronics, but can solder

    congrats!

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  • From Eli the Bearded@21:1/5 to Computer Nerd Kev on Sun Jan 31 00:47:27 2021
    In rec.games.vectrex, Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote:
    I've long wondered about your User-Agent header, glad to hear you've
    finally got the hardware to match!

    I have wanted one ever since I first learned about them, but the
    combination of extra money and thinking about it took a while to match.

    I did a little research on my User-Agent: header history. Originally I
    was using rn then trn 3.x and neither had any header identifying them.
    Then someone somewhere added a X-Newsreader header into Pnews, the
    helper program for making a post. I disliked that and changed the value
    to suggest I was posting from a "Sony Playstation 5 (MIPS)". At the time
    I was working for a company that was owned by Sony and was probably
    thinking of WebTV posts.

    A few years later, I found some standards document that suggested
    User-Agent was more appropriate than X-Newsreader and changed my game
    console choice to match. That was in about February 2003.

    Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> wrote:
    I have three game carts (Armor Attack, Blitz, and Star Trek), plus light pen and Animaction. The controller I have seems a little soft. I see Nintendo style replacement controllers available, and I've looked at
    the schematic Tube Time (@tubetimeus on twitter) has created for a controller (it's in the scoptrex package on github). Controllers
    look easy to build.
    The original Vectrex service manual also includes the controller
    schematic. It's certainly among the easier controller designs to
    copy, though if you build one with an analogue joystick it might be
    tricky getting the sensitivity right.

    https://console5.com/techwiki/images/a/a7/Vectrex-Service_Manual.pdf

    III. MAINTENANCE AND SAFETY TIPS

    Your Vectrex Arcade System will bring you many years of fun and
    excitement.

    :^)

    Is the test cart mentioned in that manual the "Test Rev. 4" I see listed
    in multicarts? I do think the screen needs adjustment on mine. In
    Animaction I'm seeing text that is going off the edge. The test patterns
    on the test cart sound useful for adjusting it.

    Is there a FAQ for common repairs / fixes? I've got the audio buzz, too.
    I know vaguely there's a grounding fix for that, but I don't know the
    details.

    It's still slowly coming together. I'm always getting stuck with
    whatever I try to work on with it software-wise (most recently
    trying to build XFree86, as asked about in other groups), but

    I saw that post. It has been a long time since I've tried to build
    XFree86, so I didn't have any non-obvious suggestions.

    The best copy of the original manual would be here: https://vectorgaming.proboards.com/thread/849/vectrex-manual-project

    Thanks. Animaction has a rather long manual.

    There was also a Vectrex FTP site, I'm not sure where that is
    online now, I thought it was at the Internet Archive but now I
    can't find it. There's probably nothing in it that hasn't been
    reproduced elsewhere on the web by now, but I look in my local copy
    for plain-text game manuals and other documents.

    Are you referring to ftp://ftp.csus.edu/pub/vectrex?

    I guess that Internet Archive gets FTP sites, but I have had trouble
    verifying that. I used their contact form to ask about ftp.uu.net once
    and got back a response that didn't seem to understand my question.

    This might be that site as a web mirror, it is a web mirror of some
    Vectrex ftp site:

    https://web.archive.org/web/20180322025919/http://www.vectrex.com/Mirrors/FTP_Mirror/

    It is sadly not complete, but seems to have a lot of it.

    https://web.archive.org/web/20180322071818/http://www.vectrex.com/Mirrors/FTP_Mirror/pictures/notavail.jpg

    I think that needs some sort of context that I am missing.

    What else should I be looking at in 2021?
    VecFever and Vextreme are other things along the lines of the
    PiTrex.

    Unlike Pitrex, those don't seem to have recent (eg 2020) updates.

    Are there plans or kits for homebuilt 3-D viewers?
    There are some older mechanical designs: https://www.playvectrex.com/projex_f.htm https://old.madtronix.com/html/3d_imager.html

    The Madtroix one looks good.

    Elijah
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  • From Eli the Bearded@21:1/5 to pjeaton70@gmail.com on Sun Jan 31 00:49:08 2021
    In rec.games.vectrex, Phillip Eaton <pjeaton70@gmail.com> wrote:
    This group is not completely dead.

    Just sleeping, like alt.games.mame. Good to know.

    Congratulations on becoming a Vectrex owner !

    Thanks.

    Elijah
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  • From Computer Nerd Kev@21:1/5 to Eli the Bearded on Mon Feb 1 08:10:24 2021
    Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> wrote:
    https://console5.com/techwiki/images/a/a7/Vectrex-Service_Manual.pdf

    III. MAINTENANCE AND SAFETY TIPS

    Your Vectrex Arcade System will bring you many years of fun and
    excitement.

    :^)

    Is the test cart mentioned in that manual the "Test Rev. 4" I see listed
    in multicarts? I do think the screen needs adjustment on mine. In
    Animaction I'm seeing text that is going off the edge. The test patterns
    on the test cart sound useful for adjusting it.

    Yes, that "test.bin" ROM image is the one the manual talks about and
    has various calibration screens. I've never tried Animaction though,
    so I'm not sure whether that might be normal (software is able to
    draw offscreen even when the hardware display settings are correct).

    Is there a FAQ for common repairs / fixes? I've got the audio buzz, too.
    I know vaguely there's a grounding fix for that, but I don't know the details.

    Well the Vectrex FAQ covers those, this seems to be the latest
    copy:
    https://www.pugo.org/collection/faq/10/

    This may be the tutorial that it links to: http://www.atarihq.com/vectrex/no_buzz.zip

    I kept the buzz. It's actually proven a bit of a debugging aid
    doing the PiTrex stuff (eg. with those lines that can be drawn
    offscreen).

    Also see here: https://vectorgaming.proboards.com/thread/1845/common-vectrex-adjustments-repairs-links

    There was also a Vectrex FTP site, I'm not sure where that is
    online now, I thought it was at the Internet Archive but now I
    can't find it. There's probably nothing in it that hasn't been
    reproduced elsewhere on the web by now, but I look in my local copy
    for plain-text game manuals and other documents.

    Are you referring to ftp://ftp.csus.edu/pub/vectrex?

    I guess that Internet Archive gets FTP sites, but I have had trouble verifying that. I used their contact form to ask about ftp.uu.net once
    and got back a response that didn't seem to understand my question.

    It's not part of their Wayback Machine project, but there is a
    separate FTP archiving project that uploads to the file archive
    part of the site:
    https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/FTP https://archive.org/details/archiveteam_ftp

    I thought I'd seen someone had manually uploaded an archive of the
    Vectrex FTP site, but I might have been dreaming because I can't
    find it now.

    This might be that site as a web mirror, it is a web mirror of some
    Vectrex ftp site:

    https://web.archive.org/web/20180322025919/http://www.vectrex.com/Mirrors/FTP_Mirror/

    That's it, that site was its final home.

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  • From Eli the Bearded@21:1/5 to not@telling.you.invalid on Tue Feb 2 07:56:17 2021
    In rec.games.vectrex, Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote:
    Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> wrote:

    It's not part of their Wayback Machine project, but there is a
    separate FTP archiving project that uploads to the file archive
    part of the site:
    https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/FTP

    Started 2015. Ouch, I expect uu.net was gone by then.

    https://archive.org/details/archiveteam_ftp

    It's pretty unusable in that state.

    I thought I'd seen someone had manually uploaded an archive of the
    Vectrex FTP site, but I might have been dreaming because I can't
    find it now.

    Pick an "Archive Team FTP Site Download", eg: https://archive.org/details/archiveteam_ftp_20160613015538

    Click on "ITEM CDX META-INDEX" see text that appears to describe what's
    inside that particular chunk.

    edu,monash,ftp)/pub/linux/ubuntu/archive/pool/universe/f/fence-agents/fence-agents_3.1.5-2ubuntu4_i386.deb 20160612214359 archiveteam_ftp_20160613015538.cdx.gz 150120 154289
    edu,oregonstate,ftp)/.1/cran/src/contrib/archive/icenreg 20160612191622 archiveteam_ftp_20160613015538.cdx.gz 304409 150149
    edu,oregonstate,ftp)/.1/fedora/linux/updates/22/x86_64/drpms/texlive-babel-czech-svn30261.0-11.fc22_svn30261.0-12.fc22.noarch.drpm 20160612220519 archiveteam_ftp_20160613015538.cdx.gz 454558 144504
    edu,oregonstate,ftp)/.1/vectorlinux/veclinux-6.0/gsb-2.22/packages/applications/python-dateutil-1.4-i586-2gsb.meta 20160612181640 archiveteam_ftp_20160613015538.cdx.gz 599062 134150
    edu,oregonstate,ftp)/.2/gnome/binaries/win32/dependencies/cairo-dev_1.8.10-2_win32.zip 20160612224228 archiveteam_ftp_20160613015538.cdx.gz 733212 128492
    edu,oregonstate,ftp)/.2/nslu2/feeds/freesmartphone/fso-unstable/armv4t/gnome-keyring-locale-mk_2.20.0-r2_armv4t.ipk 20160612195027 archiveteam_ftp_20160613015538.cdx.gz 861704 148299
    edu,oregonstate,ftp)/.2/nslu2/sources/darkstat-3.0.708.tar.bz2 20160612232430 archiveteam_ftp_20160613015538.cdx.gz 1010003 139036
    edu,oregonstate,ftp)/.2/videolan/vlc/1.0.5/win32/symbols-1.0.5/libaccess_tcp_plugin.dll.dbg 20160612205134 archiveteam_ftp_20160613015538.cdx.gz 1149039 119886

    Hey, look, it at least says "vector"!

    It also looks like ~20 items newer than 2016.

    Elijah
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  • From David Griffith@21:1/5 to Eli the Bearded on Mon Feb 15 03:56:24 2021
    Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> wrote:
    No idea if people are still reading this group, but since Computer Nerd
    Kev is active in other groups and apparently has been active in hacking
    on Vextrex systems, maybe yes, and group is just idle.

    After years and years of wanting one, I happened to get some extra money
    at a time when owning a Vextrex was on mind. Bids were made, an auction
    won, and today a system arrived in the mail.

    I have three game carts (Armor Attack, Blitz, and Star Trek), plus light
    pen and Animaction. The controller I have seems a little soft. I see
    Nintendo style replacement controllers available, and I've looked at
    the schematic Tube Time (@tubetimeus on twitter) has created for a
    controller (it's in the scoptrex package on github). Controllers
    look easy to build.

    I don't know if Pitrex, which seems to be a Computer Nerd Kev, project
    is still in active development, but it looks interesting.

    And I see various multicarts available from various places, which should
    be enough to get me Scramble and Berzerk, the other games besides Mine
    Storm and Armor Attack that I recall being particularly good.

    I expect I'll be able to find documentation of how Animaction can be
    used, but I did notice that the vectrex.fandom.com site does not seem to
    have details on that "game".

    What else should I be looking at in 2021?

    Are there plans or kits for homebuilt 3-D viewers?

    Get a copy of the service/tech manual and consider recapping your Vectrex.


    --
    David Griffith
    dave@661.org

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  • From Eli the Bearded@21:1/5 to David Griffith on Mon Feb 15 18:53:11 2021
    In rec.games.vectrex, David Griffith <dave@661.org> wrote:
    Get a copy of the service/tech manual and consider recapping your Vectrex.

    I did get the service manual and now have a multicart with the test cart
    image. I found a company called Console5 (.com) has a wiki page on the recapping and sells recap kits. I bought a set from them, but I haven't
    put them in yet.

    Soon.

    Elijah
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  • From David Griffith@21:1/5 to Eli the Bearded on Fri Feb 19 23:06:35 2021
    Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> wrote:
    In rec.games.vectrex, David Griffith <dave@661.org> wrote:
    Get a copy of the service/tech manual and consider recapping your Vectrex.

    I did get the service manual and now have a multicart with the test cart image. I found a company called Console5 (.com) has a wiki page on the recapping and sells recap kits. I bought a set from them, but I haven't
    put them in yet.

    I don't remember where I got my cap kit. The job is quite easy to do.
    You just have to make sure you give proper respect to the high-voltage
    stuff in there and be extra careful not to bump the rear of the CRT.


    --
    David Griffith
    dave@661.org

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