• GOmove, a modest variant. (Anticipated?) (Crossposted from rec.game

    From Terrybenson@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 21 09:55:26 2017
    The Ibero-American Go Congress will be in Cancun, Mexico Oct. 12-16.

    The next US Go Congress will be in Williamsburg VA July 2018. I always run an evening of Crazy Go on the Tuesday of the Congress.

    I am also the rules committee chair for the American Go Association and I have been involved with Go rules internationally for 40 years. Rules are key to what makes a game fun

    I'll use your main variant. We will see why the players want to do.

    Thanks.

    Terry

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  • From mjjoyce3@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 21 21:54:26 2017
    On Thursday, September 21, 2017 at 5:12:25 AM UTC-4, Luis Bolaños Mures wrote:
    mjjo, a few weeks ago I played this exact Go variant against a player called PCM on the igGameCenter sandbox. He's often around, so, if you post a comment for him on the general chat, chances are you'll get a game going within a few days.

    Hi, Luis. Thanks for that info!
    Joe Joyce

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  • From mjjoyce3@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 22 13:34:53 2017
    Terry, thanks. I live in New York, so Mexico is highly unlikely, but Virginia should be pretty easy to make. Can a stranger just wander in off the street and play in or at least watch the Crazy Go session?

    Joe

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?Luis_Bola=C3=B1os_Mures?=@21:1/5 to All on Sat Sep 23 13:36:18 2017
    El viernes, 22 de septiembre de 2017, 6:54:28 (UTC+2), mjjo...@gmail.com escribió:
    On Thursday, September 21, 2017 at 5:12:25 AM UTC-4, Luis Bolaños Mures wrote:
    mjjo, a few weeks ago I played this exact Go variant against a player called PCM on the igGameCenter sandbox. He's often around, so, if you post a comment for him on the general chat, chances are you'll get a game going within a few days.

    Hi, Luis. Thanks for that info!
    Joe Joyce

    No problem. I'm Gatsby there, by the way.

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  • From Terrybenson@21:1/5 to All on Sat Sep 23 14:46:01 2017
    The US Go Congress has a day rate for those who come for part of the congress. There are lectures in the afternoon and multiple events in the evening including (on Tuesday) Crazy Go.

    It's a great week of go if you can afford the time and the money.

    Terry

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  • From mjjoyce3@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Sat Sep 23 19:42:57 2017
    Hi, Gatsby! Grin, I'm Joe Joyce on igGames, have enough trouble remembering that name! So you saw the game we played. It played beautifully! I played terribly, but it seems to work extremely well, with no problems that I saw. If you noticed anything, or
    have any comments, I'd be glad to hear them, good, bad, or indifferent. (Truthfully, the bad and indifferent ones give me more info than the good reviews...)

    That game and the discussion with PCM answers 1 question, that of board size. PCM stated that the game did not work on a 13 x 13. The 2 sides each created a huge 'base' from which to work, collapsing the strategy and tactics of Go. After completing 1
    game and being about 35 moves into another on 19x19 boards, this 'collapse' hasn't happened. Instead, the games are developing more or less normally.

    My buddy Uri, playing the email game, asked if the handicapping system could be used. It could, but the more stones placed as handicap, the greater the advantage to black in the opening, because white will have few opportunities to move aid to a
    threatened position, and will be all but surrounded by now-mobile stones. This variant might be better on larger than 19x19 boards.

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  • From mjjoyce3@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Terrybenson on Sat Sep 23 19:53:57 2017
    On Saturday, September 23, 2017 at 5:46:02 PM UTC-4, Terrybenson wrote:
    The US Go Congress has a day rate for those who come for part of the congress. There are lectures in the afternoon and multiple events in the evening including (on Tuesday) Crazy Go.

    It's a great week of go if you can afford the time and the money.

    Terry

    Terry, my wife has always wanted to see Colonial Williamsburg... I believe I can make at least Tuesday evening. :)

    I chatted with and played a game with someone who had a similar idea, courtesy of Luis. The basic game info learned is in my reply to Luis, just above.

    Joe

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  • From mjjoyce3@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Tue Sep 26 20:38:30 2017
    I have a game score for the completed game, and just looked it over to see what it showed (besides how poorly I play.) The game went 100 turns, and 77 of them included a move, so there were 177 actions in the game. What's the standard game length for
    19x19 Go? Then consider that I started with both tactical and strategic mistakes, and essentially got crushed rather easily.

    One thing I noticed that makes this different, I think, is that defenses contract to save stones. This is why the 13x13 didn't work. And it's why I think this game would be a bit better on somewhat larger boards.

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  • From mjjoyce3@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Sat Sep 30 14:38:34 2017
    Apologies for the delay in posting this score, got food poisoning.

    1. GAME "Crazy Go"

    2. Joe Joyce G7k
    3. PCM E5w
    4. Joe Joyce G5k
    5. PCM E7w
    6. Joe Joyce E8k G7- F7k
    7. PCM E6w
    8. Joe Joyce G7k F8k F7-
    9. PCM E3w
    10. Joe Joyce G3k
    11. PCM F4w
    12. Joe Joyce G5- G4k G6k
    13. PCM D8w
    14. Joe Joyce D9k
    15. PCM E7- D7w C9w
    16. Joe Joyce D10k
    17. PCM E5- F5w C10w
    18. Joe Joyce D12k
    19. PCM P16w
    20. Joe Joyce O15k
    21. PCM P16- P15w O5w
    22. Joe Joyce O7k O15- O14k
    23. PCM F5- G5w H5w
    24. Joe Joyce H4k H6k G6-
    25. PCM O5- I5w N5w
    26. Joe Joyce B10k D12- C12k
    27. PCM P15- O15w C11w
    28. Joe Joyce D11k B10- B11k
    29. PCM D15w
    30. Joe Joyce D13k O7- O6k
    31. PCM F15w
    32. Joe Joyce J6k O6- N6k
    33. PCM J5w
    34. Joe Joyce K6k H6- H7k
    35. PCM N5- M5w K5w
    36. Joe Joyce G3- F3k L6k
    37. PCM E2w
    38. Joe Joyce F14k L6- M6k
    39. PCM D15- E15w G14w
    40. Joe Joyce E14k D13- D14k
    41. PCM D15w
    42. Joe Joyce C15k B11- B12k
    43. PCM C16w
    44. Joe Joyce G13k O14- N14k
    45. PCM J11w
    46. Joe Joyce H13k
    47. PCM H14w
    48. Joe Joyce I13k M14k N14-
    49. PCM J11- J10w L8w
    50. Joe Joyce L7k I13- I14k
    51. PCM I5- I6w I7w
    52. Joe Joyce K7k J6- J7k
    53. PCM M5- L5w I8w
    54. Joe Joyce K8k M6- M7k
    55. PCM L8- L9w I9w
    56. Joe Joyce H9k L7- L8k
    57. PCM O15- N15w I13w
    58. Joe Joyce I12k M14- M13k
    59. PCM J10- J11w J13w
    60. Joe Joyce J12k M13- L13k
    61. PCM J13- J14w I15w I14-
    62. Joe Joyce J12- J13k I14k I13-
    63. PCM L9- M9w B15w
    64. Joe Joyce I14- I13k C14k
    65. PCM J11- J10w P5w
    66. Joe Joyce M8k I12- I11k
    67. PCM J10- I10w P15w
    68. Joe Joyce H10k L13- L12k
    69. PCM M9- N9w P6w
    70. Joe Joyce N8k M8- M9k
    71. PCM N9- O9w O8w
    72. Joe Joyce L6k M9- N9k
    73. PCM M5w
    74. Joe Joyce O10k
    75. PCM P10w
    76. Joe Joyce J10k L12- M12k
    77. PCM I15- I14w O11w
    78. Joe Joyce N10k M12- N12k
    79. PCM N15- N14w N11w
    80. Joe Joyce M11k N12- N13k
    81. PCM P15- P14w M12w
    82. Joe Joyce L12k N13- M13k
    83. PCM N11- N12w N13w
    84. Joe Joyce M14k G4- G3k
    85. PCM J14- K14w M15w
    86. Joe Joyce L13k J13- K13k
    87. PCM P14- P15w L15w
    88. Joe Joyce J13k M7- M6k
    89. PCM K14- K15w N5w
    90. Joe Joyce O7k N6- N7k
    91. PCM P5- O5w P7w
    92. Joe Joyce J13- J14k J15k
    93. PCM I14- I15w J16w
    94. Joe Joyce I13- I14k A15k
    95. PCM K15- K16w B14w
    96. Joe Joyce A14k B12- B13k
    97. PCM O5- O6w B16w
    98. Joe Joyce M11- N11k P12k
    99. PCM P11w
    100. Joe Joyce H4- H3k I3k
    101. PCM K2w

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  • From Adrian Petrescu@21:1/5 to mohbel63@gmail.com on Wed Jan 3 13:54:57 2018
    On 09/20/2017 05:00 PM, mohbel63@gmail.com wrote:
    Hey Joyce do not use igggamecenter if you do not have huge knowledge of computing. This site is a trap. Soon or later your computer and its contents will go public.

    Out of curiosity, what gives you this impression? (It's not true, or
    even possible, coming from a browser)


    --
    Adrian

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