• how long?

    From diana anderson@21:1/5 to All on Wed Aug 3 14:08:25 2022
    Just want to know how long this group has been around. The exact yea founded would be nice.haveing some really cool t's made up that even Ed Roth would be blown away that is if his work ink aint copyrighted and can be used

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  • From Kerry Imming@21:1/5 to diana anderson on Wed Aug 3 17:22:41 2022
    On 8/3/2022 4:08 PM, diana anderson wrote:
    Just want to know how long this group has been around. The exact yea founded would be nice.haveing some really cool t's made up that even Ed Roth would be blown away that is if his work ink aint copyrighted and can be used

    According to the FAQ: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/pinball/916391-pinball-hardware/faqs/23332

    "Tom Yager created the rec.games.pinball USENET newsgroup in on 20
    November 1990 for the discussion of pinball machines."

    If I recall correctly, the FAQ used to be posted monthly.

    - Kerry

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  • From John Robertson@21:1/5 to diana anderson on Wed Aug 3 15:17:53 2022
    On 2022/08/03 2:08 p.m., diana anderson wrote:
    Just want to know how long this group has been around. The exact yea founded would be nice.haveing some really cool t's made up that even Ed Roth would be blown away that is if his work ink aint copyrighted and can be used

    Early 1990s as I recall seeing somewhere. It was started back when
    Usenet was only available in universities and companies with networking
    with universities.

    Somewhere, floating around the 'interweb', is the story of
    Rec.Games.pinball's (RGP) creation...

    I only started posting here around 1994 or so via BBSes of the day.

    John :-#)#

    --
    (Please post followups or tech inquiries to the USENET newsgroup)
    John's Jukes Ltd.
    MOVED to #7 - 3979 Marine Way, Burnaby, BC, Canada V5J 5E3
    (604)872-5757 (Pinballs, Jukes, Video Games)
    www.flippers.com
    "Old pinballers never die, they just flip out."

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  • From Daina Pettit@21:1/5 to kcimming@pobox.com on Tue Nov 1 04:14:03 2022
    In article <tcesfj$2gol9$1@dont-email.me>,
    Kerry Imming <kcimming@pobox.com> wrote:
    On 8/3/2022 4:08 PM, diana anderson wrote:
    Just want to know how long this group has been around. The exact yea >founded would be nice.haveing some really cool t's made up that even Ed
    Roth would be blown away that is if his work ink aint copyrighted and
    can be used

    According to the FAQ: >https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/pinball/916391-pinball-hardware/faqs/23332

    "Tom Yager created the rec.games.pinball USENET newsgroup in on 20
    November 1990 for the discussion of pinball machines."

    If I recall correctly, the FAQ used to be posted monthly.

    - Kerry

    The FAQ is still posted monthly with a few reminder posts inbetween.


    --
    Daina Pettit=daina@xmission.com, voice: (801)277-6296, msg: (801)277-0888
    Linux Consulting Salt Lake City, Utah http://www.MrPinball.com
    Mr. Pinball Classified--More Pinball Ads than ANYWHERE, and they're FREE!

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  • From John Robertson@21:1/5 to Daina Pettit on Tue Nov 1 11:08:44 2022
    On 2022/10/31 9:14 p.m., Daina Pettit wrote:
    In article <tcesfj$2gol9$1@dont-email.me>,
    Kerry Imming <kcimming@pobox.com> wrote:
    On 8/3/2022 4:08 PM, diana anderson wrote:
    Just want to know how long this group has been around. The exact yea
    founded would be nice.haveing some really cool t's made up that even Ed
    Roth would be blown away that is if his work ink aint copyrighted and
    can be used

    According to the FAQ:
    https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/pinball/916391-pinball-hardware/faqs/23332

    "Tom Yager created the rec.games.pinball USENET newsgroup in on 20
    November 1990 for the discussion of pinball machines."

    If I recall correctly, the FAQ used to be posted monthly.

    - Kerry

    The FAQ is still posted monthly with a few reminder posts inbetween.


    Hi Daina,

    I don't see it here on R.G.P. these days - didn't someone used to copy
    it here?

    Thanks,

    John :-#)#
    --
    (Please post followups or tech inquiries to the USENET newsgroup)
    John's Jukes Ltd.
    #7 - 3979 Marine Way, Burnaby, BC, Canada V5J 5E3
    (604)872-5757 (Pinballs, Jukes, Video Games)
    www.flippers.com
    "Old pinballers never die, they just flip out."

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  • From Daina Pettit@21:1/5 to spam@flippers.com on Wed Nov 2 05:27:48 2022
    In article <tjrnbd$quor$1@dont-email.me>,
    John Robertson <spam@flippers.com> wrote:
    On 2022/10/31 9:14 p.m., Daina Pettit wrote:
    In article <tcesfj$2gol9$1@dont-email.me>,
    Kerry Imming <kcimming@pobox.com> wrote:
    On 8/3/2022 4:08 PM, diana anderson wrote:
    Just want to know how long this group has been around. The exact yea
    founded would be nice.haveing some really cool t's made up that even Ed
    Roth would be blown away that is if his work ink aint copyrighted and
    can be used

    According to the FAQ:
    https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/pinball/916391-pinball-hardware/faqs/23332 >>>
    "Tom Yager created the rec.games.pinball USENET newsgroup in on 20
    November 1990 for the discussion of pinball machines."

    If I recall correctly, the FAQ used to be posted monthly.

    - Kerry

    The FAQ is still posted monthly with a few reminder posts inbetween.


    Hi Daina,

    I don't see it here on R.G.P. these days - didn't someone used to copy
    it here?

    Yes. I auto-post it every month on the first. It posted today and on Oct. 1, 2022, and on Sep. 1, 2022, and so on.
    --
    Daina Pettit=daina@xmission.com, voice: (801)277-6296, msg: (801)277-0888
    Linux Consulting Salt Lake City, Utah http://www.MrPinball.com
    Mr. Pinball Classified--More Pinball Ads than ANYWHERE, and they're FREE!

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  • From John Robertson@21:1/5 to Daina Pettit on Tue Nov 1 23:52:40 2022
    On 2022/11/01 10:27 p.m., Daina Pettit wrote:
    In article <tjrnbd$quor$1@dont-email.me>,
    John Robertson <spam@flippers.com> wrote:
    On 2022/10/31 9:14 p.m., Daina Pettit wrote:
    In article <tcesfj$2gol9$1@dont-email.me>,
    Kerry Imming <kcimming@pobox.com> wrote:
    On 8/3/2022 4:08 PM, diana anderson wrote:
    Just want to know how long this group has been around. The exact yea
    founded would be nice.haveing some really cool t's made up that even Ed >>>> Roth would be blown away that is if his work ink aint copyrighted and
    can be used

    According to the FAQ:
    https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/pinball/916391-pinball-hardware/faqs/23332 >>>>
    "Tom Yager created the rec.games.pinball USENET newsgroup in on 20
    November 1990 for the discussion of pinball machines."

    If I recall correctly, the FAQ used to be posted monthly.

    - Kerry

    The FAQ is still posted monthly with a few reminder posts inbetween.


    Hi Daina,

    I don't see it here on R.G.P. these days - didn't someone used to copy
    it here?

    Yes. I auto-post it every month on the first. It posted today and on Oct. 1, 2022, and on Sep. 1, 2022, and so on.

    I'm afraid I don't see it here on RGP...I'm on Eternal-September, but
    even before when I was on GigaNews I don't recall seeing it for quite a while...or perhaps it is way up at the top as a thread on the original
    FAQ posting...however nothing with FAQ in the subject line.

    Thanks,

    John :-#)#

    --
    (Please post followups or tech inquiries to the USENET newsgroup)
    John's Jukes Ltd.
    #7 - 3979 Marine Way, Burnaby, BC, Canada V5J 5E3
    (604)872-5757 (Pinballs, Jukes, Video Games)
    www.flippers.com
    "Old pinballers never die, they just flip out."

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  • From Kerry Imming@21:1/5 to John Robertson on Wed Nov 2 08:52:42 2022
    On 11/2/2022 1:52 AM, John Robertson wrote:
    On 2022/11/01 10:27 p.m., Daina Pettit wrote:
    In article <tjrnbd$quor$1@dont-email.me>,
    John Robertson  <spam@flippers.com> wrote:
    On 2022/10/31 9:14 p.m., Daina Pettit wrote:
    In article <tcesfj$2gol9$1@dont-email.me>,
    Kerry Imming  <kcimming@pobox.com> wrote:
    On 8/3/2022 4:08 PM, diana anderson wrote:
    Just want to know how long this group has been around. The exact yea >>>>> founded would be nice.haveing some really cool t's made up that
    even Ed
    Roth would be blown away that is if his work ink aint copyrighted and >>>>> can be used

    According to the FAQ:
    https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/pinball/916391-pinball-hardware/faqs/23332 >>>>>

    "Tom Yager created the rec.games.pinball USENET newsgroup in on 20
    November 1990 for the discussion of pinball machines."

    If I recall correctly, the FAQ used to be posted monthly.

    - Kerry

    The FAQ is still posted monthly with a few reminder posts inbetween.


    Hi Daina,

    I don't see it here on R.G.P. these days - didn't someone used to copy
    it here?

    Yes.  I auto-post it every month on the first.  It posted today and on
    Oct. 1, 2022, and on Sep. 1, 2022, and so on.

    I'm afraid I don't see it here on RGP...I'm on Eternal-September, but
    even before when I was on GigaNews I don't recall seeing it for quite a while...or perhaps it is way up at the top as a thread on the original
    FAQ posting...however nothing with FAQ in the subject line.

    Thanks,

    John :-#)#


    I don't see it either. I'm using eternal-september too, but I checked
    on Google Groups and it isn't there either.

    - Kerry

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  • From Scott Lurndal@21:1/5 to Kerry Imming on Wed Nov 2 14:25:16 2022
    Kerry Imming <kcimming@pobox.com> writes:
    On 11/2/2022 1:52 AM, John Robertson wrote:
    On 2022/11/01 10:27 p.m., Daina Pettit wrote:
    In article <tjrnbd$quor$1@dont-email.me>,
    John Robertson  <spam@flippers.com> wrote:
    On 2022/10/31 9:14 p.m., Daina Pettit wrote:
    In article <tcesfj$2gol9$1@dont-email.me>,
    Kerry Imming  <kcimming@pobox.com> wrote:
    On 8/3/2022 4:08 PM, diana anderson wrote:
    Just want to know how long this group has been around. The exact yea >>>>>> founded would be nice.haveing some really cool t's made up that
    even Ed
    Roth would be blown away that is if his work ink aint copyrighted and >>>>>> can be used

    According to the FAQ:
    https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/pinball/916391-pinball-hardware/faqs/23332 >>>>>>

    "Tom Yager created the rec.games.pinball USENET newsgroup in on 20 >>>>>> November 1990 for the discussion of pinball machines."

    If I recall correctly, the FAQ used to be posted monthly.

    - Kerry

    The FAQ is still posted monthly with a few reminder posts inbetween. >>>>>

    Hi Daina,

    I don't see it here on R.G.P. these days - didn't someone used to copy >>>> it here?

    Yes.  I auto-post it every month on the first.  It posted today and on >>> Oct. 1, 2022, and on Sep. 1, 2022, and so on.

    I'm afraid I don't see it here on RGP...I'm on Eternal-September, but
    even before when I was on GigaNews I don't recall seeing it for quite a
    while...or perhaps it is way up at the top as a thread on the original
    FAQ posting...however nothing with FAQ in the subject line.

    Thanks,

    John :-#)#


    I don't see it either. I'm using eternal-september too, but I checked
    on Google Groups and it isn't there either.


    I get my NNTP from usenetserver, and I've not seen the FAQ for several years.

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  • From Dave@21:1/5 to lwin...@gmail.com on Wed Nov 2 11:54:12 2022
    On Thursday, August 4, 2022 at 7:08:32 AM UTC+10, lwin...@gmail.com wrote:
    Just want to know how long this group has been around. The exact yea founded would be nice.haveing some really cool t's made up that even Ed Roth would be blown away that is if his work ink aint copyrighted and can be used

    I was certainly accessing this group in 1998. This is when I purchased my Williams Indiana Jones and knew NOTHING about maintaining a pinball machine so was a great source of info and help. These days I find YouTube a fantastic source of info and "how to"
    guides and have learned so much just watching a lot of these guys fixing and trouble shooting various issues. BTW, back in '98 I picked up the IJ for $1,000 Australian dollars. What a bargain! I did hear a few years later from another source that the
    guy who sold it to me was kicking himself for letting it go. At the time he was more into older style EM machines. I still have the IJ and it is in tip top condition - cabinet faded sure and some tiny wear spots around some of the mode inserts - but
    overall, fantastic condition.

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  • From Daina Pettit@21:1/5 to Scott Lurndal on Fri Nov 11 04:02:34 2022
    In article <g5v8L.5222$1449.2043@fx14.iad>,
    Scott Lurndal <slp53@pacbell.net> wrote:
    Kerry Imming <kcimming@pobox.com> writes:
    On 11/2/2022 1:52 AM, John Robertson wrote:
    On 2022/11/01 10:27 p.m., Daina Pettit wrote:
    In article <tjrnbd$quor$1@dont-email.me>,
    John Robertson  <spam@flippers.com> wrote:
    On 2022/10/31 9:14 p.m., Daina Pettit wrote:
    In article <tcesfj$2gol9$1@dont-email.me>,
    Kerry Imming  <kcimming@pobox.com> wrote:
    On 8/3/2022 4:08 PM, diana anderson wrote:
    Just want to know how long this group has been around. The exact yea >>>>>>> founded would be nice.haveing some really cool t's made up that
    even Ed
    Roth would be blown away that is if his work ink aint copyrighted and >>>>>>> can be used

    According to the FAQ:
    https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/pinball/916391-pinball-hardware/faqs/23332


    "Tom Yager created the rec.games.pinball USENET newsgroup in on 20 >>>>>>> November 1990 for the discussion of pinball machines."

    If I recall correctly, the FAQ used to be posted monthly.

    - Kerry

    The FAQ is still posted monthly with a few reminder posts inbetween. >>>>>>

    Hi Daina,

    I don't see it here on R.G.P. these days - didn't someone used to copy >>>>> it here?

    Yes.  I auto-post it every month on the first.  It posted today and on >>>> Oct. 1, 2022, and on Sep. 1, 2022, and so on.

    I'm afraid I don't see it here on RGP...I'm on Eternal-September, but
    even before when I was on GigaNews I don't recall seeing it for quite a
    while...or perhaps it is way up at the top as a thread on the original
    FAQ posting...however nothing with FAQ in the subject line.

    Thanks,

    John :-#)#


    I don't see it either. I'm using eternal-september too, but I checked
    on Google Groups and it isn't there either.


    I get my NNTP from usenetserver, and I've not seen the FAQ for several years.

    Strange. I see it on my server. I use trn to readnews. If anyone has any ideas why some can't see it, that would be helpful.

    This is the top few lines of the r.g.p post from Nov. 1, 2022:

    Archive-name: RGP_FAQ.RTF
    Posting-frequency: Monthly
    Last modified: February 2015

    Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) for Rec.Games.Pinball
    < last update by Daina Pettit - daina@xmission.com >

    The latest edition of this FAQ can always be retrieved from:

    http://www.MrPinball.com/ (Daina Pettit)

    Changes:
    Added new vendor, Home Leisure Direct.


    ------------------------------

    Subject: 1. Introduction, Intent, and Disclaimer

    This is the FAQ for the rec.games.pinball Usenet newsgroup. It
    attempts to answer many of the Frequently Asked Questions. It also
    provides pointers (both on-line and on paper) for more information
    about the world of pinball, and explaining how to buy your own
    pinball machine, as well as helpful techniques and parts suppliers...

    --
    Daina Pettit=daina@xmission.com, voice: (801)277-6296, msg: (801)277-0888
    Linux Consulting Salt Lake City, Utah http://www.MrPinball.com
    Mr. Pinball Classified--More Pinball Ads than ANYWHERE, and they're FREE!

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  • From Riles@21:1/5 to Daina Pettit on Fri Nov 11 04:26:55 2022
    On Thursday, November 10, 2022 at 8:02:43 PM UTC-8, Daina Pettit wrote:
    In article <g5v8L.5222$1449...@fx14.iad>,
    Scott Lurndal <sl...@pacbell.net> wrote:
    Kerry Imming <kcim...@pobox.com> writes:
    On 11/2/2022 1:52 AM, John Robertson wrote:
    On 2022/11/01 10:27 p.m., Daina Pettit wrote:
    In article <tjrnbd$quor$1...@dont-email.me>,
    John Robertson <sp...@flippers.com> wrote:
    On 2022/10/31 9:14 p.m., Daina Pettit wrote:
    In article <tcesfj$2gol9$1...@dont-email.me>,
    Kerry Imming <kcim...@pobox.com> wrote:
    On 8/3/2022 4:08 PM, diana anderson wrote:
    Just want to know how long this group has been around. The exact yea >>>>>>> founded would be nice.haveing some really cool t's made up that >>>>>>> even Ed
    Roth would be blown away that is if his work ink aint copyrighted and >>>>>>> can be used

    According to the FAQ:
    https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/pinball/916391-pinball-hardware/faqs/23332


    "Tom Yager created the rec.games.pinball USENET newsgroup in on 20 >>>>>>> November 1990 for the discussion of pinball machines."

    If I recall correctly, the FAQ used to be posted monthly.

    - Kerry

    The FAQ is still posted monthly with a few reminder posts inbetween. >>>>>>

    Hi Daina,

    I don't see it here on R.G.P. these days - didn't someone used to copy >>>>> it here?

    Yes. I auto-post it every month on the first. It posted today and on >>>> Oct. 1, 2022, and on Sep. 1, 2022, and so on.

    I'm afraid I don't see it here on RGP...I'm on Eternal-September, but
    even before when I was on GigaNews I don't recall seeing it for quite a >>> while...or perhaps it is way up at the top as a thread on the original >>> FAQ posting...however nothing with FAQ in the subject line.

    Thanks,

    John :-#)#


    I don't see it either. I'm using eternal-september too, but I checked
    on Google Groups and it isn't there either.


    I get my NNTP from usenetserver, and I've not seen the FAQ for several years.
    Strange. I see it on my server. I use trn to readnews. If anyone has any ideas why some can't see it, that would be helpful.

    This is the top few lines of the r.g.p post from Nov. 1, 2022:

    Archive-name: RGP_FAQ.RTF
    Posting-frequency: Monthly
    Last modified: February 2015

    Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) for Rec.Games.Pinball
    < last update by Daina Pettit - da...@xmission.com >

    The latest edition of this FAQ can always be retrieved from:

    http://www.MrPinball.com/ (Daina Pettit)

    Changes:
    Added new vendor, Home Leisure Direct.


    ------------------------------

    Subject: 1. Introduction, Intent, and Disclaimer

    This is the FAQ for the rec.games.pinball Usenet newsgroup. It
    attempts to answer many of the Frequently Asked Questions. It also
    provides pointers (both on-line and on paper) for more information
    about the world of pinball, and explaining how to buy your own
    pinball machine, as well as helpful techniques and parts suppliers...
    --
    Daina Pettit=da...@xmission.com, voice: (801)277-6296, msg: (801)277-0888 Linux Consulting Salt Lake City, Utah http://www.MrPinball.com
    Mr. Pinball Classified--More Pinball Ads than ANYWHERE, and they're FREE!

    I didn't see it (Google Groups).
    -Riles

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  • From Mark Bray@21:1/5 to All on Sat Nov 12 15:10:03 2022
    Possibly google groups and other readers are auto-filtering what they think are duplicate posts.

    Maybe try adding a line to the top with the current date next month to see if it appears 'different' enough not to be filtered out.

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  • From Scott Lurndal@21:1/5 to Mark Bray on Sun Nov 13 19:20:17 2022
    Mark Bray <marklbray2084@gmail.com> writes:
    Possibly google groups and other readers are auto-filtering what they think are duplicate posts.


    That's definitely not the case with my NNTP client, which
    doesn't filter posts at all without explicit configuration
    (and dates back to the 1980s).

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  • From John Robertson@21:1/5 to Scott Lurndal on Sun Nov 13 15:27:37 2022
    On 2022/11/13 11:20 a.m., Scott Lurndal wrote:
    Mark Bray <marklbray2084@gmail.com> writes:
    Possibly google groups and other readers are auto-filtering what they think are duplicate posts.


    That's definitely not the case with my NNTP client, which
    doesn't filter posts at all without explicit configuration
    (and dates back to the 1980s).


    Scott, are you seeing the monthly FAQ then?

    Thanks,

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  • From Scott Lurndal@21:1/5 to John Robertson on Mon Nov 14 15:41:49 2022
    John Robertson <jrr@flippers.com> writes:
    On 2022/11/13 11:20 a.m., Scott Lurndal wrote:
    Mark Bray <marklbray2084@gmail.com> writes:
    Possibly google groups and other readers are auto-filtering what they think are duplicate posts.


    That's definitely not the case with my NNTP client, which
    doesn't filter posts at all without explicit configuration
    (and dates back to the 1980s).


    Scott, are you seeing the monthly FAQ then?

    No, I have not seen it for a very long time.

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