• Re: Gay characters in IF

    From Monica K@21:1/5 to All on Sat Nov 13 14:02:51 2021
    Holy shit. 1997 lgbtq rep in media discourse, things never change. I am making a text based adventure game in 2021 because of my love for zork and games like it! I think we have come a long way with gay/trans rep in media, but there are still ways to
    improve. Neil K from Tela Computer Consulting & Design, I love to play that game you were making!!!!

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  • From Monica K@21:1/5 to Neil K. on Sat Nov 13 14:06:13 2021
    On Monday, August 25, 1997 at 3:00:00 AM UTC-4, Neil K. wrote:
    If my game in progress ever gets finished, I guess I'll find out. :)
    There are elements to it, particularly critical plot elements revolving around the protagonist and a same-sex relationship, that will undoubtedly offend bigots.
    However, I'm not the least bit concerned if bigots don't like my game. In fact, I'd be quite pleased if they don't. A game that delights bigots is
    not likely to be a game that I want to write.
    - Neil K.

    I don't think you will ever see this but this post made my entire month!!! I would have loved to play your game, dude. I tried your Tela email but it seems nothing works. I don't expect you to see this, but it doesn't hurt to try.

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  • From Adam Thornton@21:1/5 to sadmars69@gmail.com on Mon Nov 15 04:51:20 2021
    In article <47a7ad00-59ad-4ae1-8c64-340f0b406691n@googlegroups.com>,
    Monica K <sadmars69@gmail.com> wrote:
    I don't think you will ever see this but this post made my entire
    month!!! I would have loved to play your game, dude. I tried your Tela >email but it seems nothing works. I don't expect you to see this, but
    it doesn't hurt to try.

    I don't like to blow my own horn...

    Well, who am I kidding? If I had ever been flexible enough to blow my
    own horn, I totally would have been enthusiastic about it.

    Anyway, "Stiffy Makane: The Undiscovered Country" certainly has some
    stuff to say about same-sex relationships, although I will admit that
    these days its treatment of trans issues is...rudimentary at best.

    I could have done a lot worse, back in the day.

    Adam

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  • From Andrew Plotkin@21:1/5 to Monica K on Mon Nov 15 15:56:14 2021
    Here, Monica K <sadmars69@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Monday, August 25, 1997 at 3:00:00 AM UTC-4, Neil K. wrote:
    If my game in progress ever gets finished, I guess I'll find out. :)
    There are elements to it, particularly critical plot elements revolving around the protagonist and a same-sex relationship, that will undoubtedly offend bigots.
    However, I'm not the least bit concerned if bigots don't like my game. In fact, I'd be quite pleased if they don't. A game that delights bigots is not likely to be a game that I want to write.
    - Neil K.

    I don't think you will ever see this but this post made my entire
    month!!! I would have loved to play your game, dude.

    My usual rule is to not post here any more, but I think it's worth
    doing it this once:

    The game referred to here is _The Lost Spellmaker_. You can
    play it here: https://ifdb.org/viewgame?id=m7bgf8mop636i32o

    Got 8th place (out of 34) in the 1997 IFComp.

    --Z

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    "And Aholibamah bare Jeush, and Jaalam, and Korah: these were the borogoves..." *

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