This is a situation I've never been in before...

I ride a steed stepped onto a teleport trap that lead me into a
niche. Searching revealed the door, but it's locked. I cannot
unmount since there's no free square. I cannot kick the door
open because when riding it's only possible to kick the steed.
Any idea to solve the issue besides #quit'ing?

Janis

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On Friday, May 13, 2022 at 4:35:52 PM UTC-5, Janis wrote:

This is a situation I've never been in before...

I ride a steed stepped onto a teleport trap that lead me into a
niche. Searching revealed the door, but it's locked. I cannot
unmount since there's no free square. I cannot kick the door
open because when riding it's only possible to kick the steed.
Any idea to solve the issue besides #quit'ing?

Janis

Not pleasant, but you could kick the steed to death then the door.

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On 14.05.2022 03:58, Praetor Mandrake wrote:

On Friday, May 13, 2022 at 4:35:52 PM UTC-5, Janis wrote:

This is a situation I've never been in before...

I ride a steed stepped onto a teleport trap that lead me into a
niche. Searching revealed the door, but it's locked. I cannot
unmount since there's no free square. I cannot kick the door
open because when riding it's only possible to kick the steed.
Any idea to solve the issue besides #quit'ing?

Not pleasant, but you could kick the steed to death then the door.

Didn't know that killing the steed by kicking while riding was
possible; I'll keep that in mind. Usually I avoid killing pets
due to the negative effects, and this time all my games that I
played - it was Friday, 13th - were anyway already a disaster.

Janis

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On Friday, May 13, 2022 at 9:17:12 PM UTC-5, Janis wrote:

On 14.05.2022 03:58, Praetor Mandrake wrote:

On Friday, May 13, 2022 at 4:35:52 PM UTC-5, Janis wrote:

This is a situation I've never been in before...

I ride a steed stepped onto a teleport trap that lead me into a
niche. Searching revealed the door, but it's locked. I cannot
unmount since there's no free square. I cannot kick the door
open because when riding it's only possible to kick the steed.
Any idea to solve the issue besides #quit'ing?

Not pleasant, but you could kick the steed to death then the door.

Didn't know that killing the steed by kicking while riding was
possible; I'll keep that in mind. Usually I avoid killing pets
due to the negative effects, and this time all my games that I
played - it was Friday, 13th - were anyway already a disaster.

Janis

That's probably what it was, a Friday the 13th event. I rolled a barbarian that got
slain by a gnome king with an amulet of life-saving.

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with <t5n3f5$13i$1@dont-email.me> Janis Papanagnou wrote:

On 14.05.2022 03:58, Praetor Mandrake wrote:

On Friday, May 13, 2022 at 4:35:52 PM UTC-5, Janis wrote:

This is a situation I've never been in before...

I ride a steed stepped onto a teleport trap that lead me into a
niche. Searching revealed the door, but it's locked. I cannot
unmount since there's no free square. I cannot kick the door open
because when riding it's only possible to kick the steed. Any idea
to solve the issue besides #quit'ing?

Not pleasant, but you could kick the steed to death then the door.

Didn't know that killing the steed by kicking while riding was
possible; I'll keep that in mind. Usually I avoid killing pets due to
the negative effects, and this time all my games that I played - it
was Friday, 13th - were anyway already a disaster.

I don't have much experience with riding (thus I don't know if it works
at all) but, bladed weapons if #force'd against the door will break lock
(and apparently the door too). Not bladed (there's special attribute
for such, not looking it right away) will just destroy the door (or so
I'm told). Also (Fri, 13th) bladed weapons might just break instead.

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On 14.05.2022 20:21, Pat Rankin wrote:

On Friday, May 13, 2022 at 2:35:52 PM UTC-7, Janis wrote:

I ride a steed stepped onto a teleport trap that lead me into a
niche. Searching revealed the door, but it's locked. I cannot
unmount since there's no free square. [...]

Another thought that came up was reading a cursed spellbook.

[...]

Prayer won't help because the presence of the door means
that you aren't completely closed in by solid rock. I'm not
sure offhand whether it would have saved you if you had
tried it before finding the secret door which turned the
apparent wall into a door.

Successful prayer will rescue you when stuck in a niche
that has no door at all. Those are created with a scroll of
teleportation on the floor but if you're unskilled (so not a
knight since knights start out with basic skill) at riding you
wouldn't be able to pick it up.

Prayer was generally not an option at that day since it was
early game and Friday 13th prevented a helpful god. (At least
that's what I observed in all the [Slashem] games I made that
day.)

I consider that event, to be relocated to a niche, as another
way of the RNG to taunt us.

I'm sure (as there's dark matter and dark energy assumed to be
present in universe) that there's also "Dark Source Code" in the
code base of Nethack/Slashem; code you won't find on inspection
but very effective in creating statistically unlikely situations
against the player. :-)

Janis

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On Friday, May 13, 2022 at 2:35:52 PM UTC-7, Janis wrote:

I ride a steed stepped onto a teleport trap that lead me into a
niche. Searching revealed the door, but it's locked. I cannot
unmount since there's no free square. [...]

You could kick and possibly be thrown off the steed. You
will end up still in the niche and the steed--former steed at
that point--will be displaced beyond the door.

The steed loses tameness when kicked, so even if you don't
get thrown off the saddle, with repeated kicking you will
eventually make it non-tame and be forcibly dismounted
for that.

Various other things can cause uncontrolled dismount and
produce a similar outcome. Polymorph of either the hero
or the steed are the only ones which come immediately to
mind but there are others.

Prayer won't help because the presence of the door means
that you aren't completely closed in by solid rock. I'm not
sure offhand whether it would have saved you if you had
tried it before finding the secret door which turned the
apparent wall into a door.

Successful prayer will rescue you when stuck in a niche
that has no door at all. Those are created with a scroll of
teleportation on the floor but if you're unskilled (so not a
knight since knights start out with basic skill) at riding you
wouldn't be able to pick it up.

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