• [slashem] Too many wimpy artifacts randomly found

    From Janis Papanagnou@21:1/5 to All on Fri Apr 29 18:39:16 2022
    My chaotic barbarian hasn't seen an altar to sacrifice for a decent
    one-handed weapon - the first one is anyway Cleaver - until reaching
    dlvl:6. Alas, dlvl:5 had the Mall, and two shops there offered two
    wimpy artifacts, the Orcrist and the Giantkiller, and the Hellfire
    was also generated randomly (in the mines, as I seem to recall). So
    the altar gave me the Cleaver, and with 4 artifacts already generated
    I was lucky to have then rather quickly got another one, the athame
    Deep Freeze. Not the worst choice for that chaotic barbarian to have
    a semi-permanent engraver for the saving E-word. But chances for a
    powerful one-handed artifact from sacrifices may now be negligible.
    It occurred to me that the Lawful Quest may provide the Stormbringer,
    as does crowning. So let's pray as mad, was the idea... - and then...
    the very first #pray'er provided Stormbringer already; what a luck!

    Janis

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  • From Chris Bowers@21:1/5 to Janis on Sun May 8 21:48:41 2022
    On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 12:39:19 PM UTC-4, Janis wrote:
    My chaotic barbarian hasn't seen an altar to sacrifice for a decent one-handed weapon - the first one is anyway Cleaver - until reaching
    dlvl:6. Alas, dlvl:5 had the Mall, and two shops there offered two
    wimpy artifacts, the Orcrist and the Giantkiller, and the Hellfire
    was also generated randomly (in the mines, as I seem to recall). So
    the altar gave me the Cleaver, and with 4 artifacts already generated
    I was lucky to have then rather quickly got another one, the athame
    Deep Freeze. Not the worst choice for that chaotic barbarian to have
    a semi-permanent engraver for the saving E-word. But chances for a
    powerful one-handed artifact from sacrifices may now be negligible.
    It occurred to me that the Lawful Quest may provide the Stormbringer,
    as does crowning. So let's pray as mad, was the idea... - and then...
    the very first #pray'er provided Stormbringer already; what a luck!

    Janis

    What's wrong with cleaver? I ascend with it (in nethack). Is Cleaver too weak in slashem?

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  • From Janis Papanagnou@21:1/5 to Chris Bowers on Mon May 9 11:37:55 2022
    On 09.05.2022 06:48, Chris Bowers wrote:
    On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 12:39:19 PM UTC-4, Janis wrote:
    My chaotic barbarian hasn't seen an altar to sacrifice for a decent
    one-handed weapon - the first one is anyway Cleaver - until reaching
    dlvl:6. Alas, dlvl:5 had the Mall, and two shops there offered two
    wimpy artifacts, the Orcrist and the Giantkiller, and the Hellfire
    was also generated randomly (in the mines, as I seem to recall). So
    the altar gave me the Cleaver, and with 4 artifacts already generated
    I was lucky to have then rather quickly got another one, the athame
    Deep Freeze. Not the worst choice for that chaotic barbarian to have
    a semi-permanent engraver for the saving E-word. But chances for a
    powerful one-handed artifact from sacrifices may now be negligible.
    It occurred to me that the Lawful Quest may provide the Stormbringer,
    as does crowning. So let's pray as mad, was the idea... - and then...
    the very first #pray'er provided Stormbringer already; what a luck!

    What's wrong with cleaver? I ascend with it (in nethack). Is Cleaver
    too weak in slashem?

    There's a couple differences; Cleaver is better than the one in NH-343,
    it always gives +3 to hit and +6 damage. OTOH, it doesn't have the hit-in-an-arc feature of NH-36x. But this must be compared to the other influencing factors; Slashem monsters are tougher and manifold, you
    generally need better weapons, and Slashem provides them. For example,
    later in that game I also got the Bat from Hell (1d6+20). Since there's
    also more and significantly more dangerous monster attack types (like
    wands of level drain) you want some protection; that's why Stormbringer
    is much more useful in Slashem. And because of the many new monsters
    that curse your items any two-handed weapon is just a risk.

    So, for Slashem, I'd say, use it as long as necessary but switch if
    possible to a better and one-handed artifact weapon, certainly at the
    point when spell casters appear.

    Janis

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  • From Janis Papanagnou@21:1/5 to Chris Bowers on Wed May 11 19:13:27 2022
    On 09.05.2022 06:48, Chris Bowers wrote:

    What's wrong with cleaver? I ascend with it (in nethack). Is Cleaver
    too weak in slashem?

    Just continued my Barbarian game; killed the Wizard, got the Amulet,
    and now on dlvl:1 organize my findings and loot for the Planes.
    My carrying capacity requires to leave back some precious items;
    besides the Sunsword and the Elfrist, also the +5 Cleaver! These
    charges - that certainly served me well in the game - are of course
    lost for the current weapons I use
    - the blessed fireproof +5 Bat from Hell (weapon in hand)
    - the blessed rustproof +1 Deep Freeze
    - the blessed rustproof +4 Stormbringer (alternate weapon; not wielded)
    I suppose I use some marker charges to enhance the Bat and Stormy
    before entering the Planes...

    Janis

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