On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 11:59, Peter Steen Kristiansen < sds@spear.dk> wrote:
Hi all,
As most of you probably already saw Shadowrun 6th edition has been announced. >See Dumpshock http://forums.dumpshock.com/index.php?showtopic=42156 or >https://forums.shadowruntabletop.com/index.php?topic=29147.0
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Blatant cash grab? New line editor? Did they just decide 5th wasn’t worth it?
I have to say, I didn’t bother buying all the 5th Ed books, and I’m not >especially looking forward to buying 6th Ed, either. Not at the current (or >presumably higher) prices, anyway...
As most of you probably already saw Shadowrun 6th edition has been announced. See Dumpshock
http://forums.dumpshock.com/index.php?showtopic=42156 or >https://forums.shadowruntabletop.com/index.php?topic=29147.0
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Blatant cash grab? New line editor? Did they just decide 5th wasn’t worth it?
I have to say, I didn’t bother buying all the 5th Ed books, and I’m not >especially looking forward to buying 6th Ed, either. Not at the current (or >presumably higher) prices, anyway...
On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 11:59, Peter Steen Kristiansen < sds@spear.dk> wrote: >>
Hi all,
As most of you probably already saw Shadowrun 6th edition has been announced. See Dumpshock
http://forums.dumpshock.com/index.php?showtopic=42156 or
https://forums.shadowruntabletop.com/index.php?topic=29147.0
Regards
Sds
Blatant cash grab? New line editor? Did they just decide 5th wasn’t worth it?
I have to say, I didn’t bother buying all the 5th Ed books, and I’m not >especially looking forward to buying 6th Ed, either. Not at the current (or >presumably higher) prices, anyway...
On May 1, 2019, at 14:02, Zebulin M < zebulingod@gmail.com> wrote:
Blatant cash grab? New line editor? Did they just decide 5th wasn’t worth it? >>
I have to say, I didn’t bother buying all the 5th Ed books, and I’m not >>especially looking forward to buying 6th Ed, either. Not at the current (or >>presumably higher) prices, anyway...
On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 11:59, Peter Steen Kristiansen < sds@spear.dk> wrote: >>>
Hi all,
As most of you probably already saw Shadowrun 6th edition has been announced. See Dumpshock
http://forums.dumpshock.com/index.php?showtopic=42156 or
https://forums.shadowruntabletop.com/index.php?topic=29147.0
Regards
Sds
Y’know, I’m inclined to agree on the prices angle. I was far less than pleased to be paying more for PDF only copies of books for 5th than I did my print copies for SR3
zebulingod@gmail.com wrote:
Blatant cash grab? New line editor? Did they just decide 5th wasn’t worth it?
I have to say, I didn’t bother buying all the 5th Ed books, and I’m not >> especially looking forward to buying 6th Ed, either. Not at the current (or >> presumably higher) prices, anyway...
Oh no! We just switched to SR5!
On Wed, 1 May 2019 14:39:51 -0500, Derek <derek@shadowrungamers.com>
wrote:
On May 1, 2019, at 14:02, Zebulin M < zebulingod@gmail.com> wrote:
Blatant cash grab? New line editor? Did they just decide 5th wasn’t worth it?
I have to say, I didn’t bother buying all the 5th Ed books, and I’m not >>> especially looking forward to buying 6th Ed, either. Not at the current (or >>> presumably higher) prices, anyway...
On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 11:59, Peter Steen Kristiansen < sds@spear.dk> wrote:
Hi all,
As most of you probably already saw Shadowrun 6th edition has been announced. See Dumpshock
http://forums.dumpshock.com/index.php?showtopic=42156 or
https://forums.shadowruntabletop.com/index.php?topic=29147.0
Regards
Sds
Y’know, I’m inclined to agree on the prices angle. I was far less than pleased to be paying more for PDF only copies of books for 5th than I did my print copies for SR3
20 years of inflation will do that...
On 01/05/2019 21:20, Ubiquitous wrote:
zebulingod@gmail.com wrote:
Blatant cash grab? New line editor? Did they just decide 5th wasn't worth >>> it?
I have to say, I didn't bother buying all the 5th Ed books, and I'm not
especially looking forward to buying 6th Ed, either. Not at the current
(or presumably higher) prices, anyway...
Oh no! We just switched to SR5!
might be better to wait with the switch until the worst kinks have been >ironed out.I most likely will buy both the English and the German
version. In SR5 the German version was more understandable.
Not to kick off a new round of edition wars, but I've not heard generally >good things about SR6, (from fans of any edition) - at best it's a mixed bag >combined with terrible editing, so even as a matter of being a completionist >I'm waiting for a reporting with errata. (I still recall the insert with >errata for the 2nd Ed GM screen - it had the in-character-style quote "Hey, >better this than a third edition" - FASA )
Has anyone heard otherwise?
Blatant cash grab? New line editor? Did they just decide 5th wasn’t worth it?
I have to say, I didn’t bother buying all the 5th Ed books, and I’m not >especially looking forward to buying 6th Ed, either. Not at the current (or >presumably higher) prices, anyway...
Not to kick off a new round of edition wars, but I've not heard generally good >things about SR6, (from fans of any edition) - at best it's a mixed bag >combined with terrible editing, so even as a matter of being a completionist >I'm waiting for a reporting with errata. (I still recall the insert with >errata for the 2nd Ed GM screen - it had the in-character-style quote "Hey, >better this than a third edition" - FASA )
Has anyone heard otherwise?
Not to kick off a new round of edition wars, but I've not heard generally good >things about SR6, (from fans of any edition) - at best it's a mixed bag >combined with terrible editing, so even as a matter of being a completionist >I'm waiting for a reporting with errata. (I still recall the insert with >errata for the 2nd Ed GM screen - it had the in-character-style quote "Hey, >better this than a third edition" - FASA )
Has anyone heard otherwise?
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That’s half of the angry contention against it. There were 10+ pages of >errata released before gencon where the physical copies were unveiled,
long before the PDF was released (still unfixed) and before general public >could buy the book in physical format either.
Good to hear they’ve semi-patched it...
As for editions, I never played 1st but it’s damage codes mildly confuse me. >2nd I played for a total of 3 runs right after SR3 dropped while my GM at
the time was buying books. I absolutely LOVE SR3, you’re right, dice pools >were a blast. If I could get searchable digital copies of the SR3 books
like my SR4/5 ones, I’d be in heaven and we’d go back to that in a heartbeat. >SR4 I disliked, SR5 I’m mostly ok with because I axed limits and that stupidity
right away. SR6 I haven’t gotten yet, so, no opinion yet.
what I've seen seems to be a further dilution of what makes this
ShadowRun, especially WRT spellcasting.
derek@shadowrungamers.com wrote:
That’s half of the angry contention against it. There were 10+ pages of >>errata released before gencon where the physical copies were unveiled,
long before the PDF was released (still unfixed) and before general public >>could buy the book in physical format either.
The current PDF is fixed, they made most of the changes in-line but had to >put some of the tables in odd locations. I'm hopeful about it if they >continue to fix things.
Up until a few weeks ago, I was on-board with 6E, because I felt it was >better than 5E for a few reasons: 1. The rules were set up in a way that was >much easier to understand. 2. The edge system was fun. 3. It's not 5e. No >limits, a bit more playable out of the CRB without hunting down half a dozen >sourcebooks.
However, then I read the 2e book, which does a lot better job at both of >these... Dice pools are superior to the edge pool in terms of fun, and so far >2e's rules seem more straightforward. I don't mind complex, but >incomprehensible is a problem. If the choice is between 6e and 5e, then 6e is >my choice. If I get to choose from any SR edition, then 2e still takes the >cake. I still need to read through 1e, 3e, and 4eA, though, since someone on >the SR old-school discord I'm on swears by 1e and I've heard good things >about the other editions as well...
I absolutely LOVE SR3, you’re right, dice pools were a blast.
If I could get searchable digital copies of the SR3 books like my SR4/5
ones, I’d be in heaven and we’d go back to that in a heartbeat.
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Incubated into the First Church of the Sqooshy Ball, 21-05-1998 <-
Since we're sharing...
I'm actually discouraged after seeing SR6, (I had the same reaction to SR5), >and unlike a lot of folks on this list, I consider SR4 to be the high-water >mark (and it's far from perfect, I think it's just demonstrably true that
it runs on the most robust mathematical chassis overall...and I spend a lot >of time thinking about math).
But yeah: fan of SR4; not a fan of SR6. So they're not necessarily correlated.
derek@shadowrungamers.com wrote:
Good to hear they’ve semi-patched it...
As for editions, I never played 1st but it’s damage codes mildly confuse me. >>2nd I played for a total of 3 runs right after SR3 dropped while my GM at >>the time was buying books. I absolutely LOVE SR3, you’re right, dice pools >>were a blast. If I could get searchable digital copies of the SR3 books >>like my SR4/5 ones, I’d be in heaven and we’d go back to that in a heartbeat. >>SR4 I disliked, SR5 I’m mostly ok with because I axed limits and that >>stupidity right away. SR6 I haven’t gotten yet, so, no opinion yet.
But yeah: fan of SR4; not a fan of SR6. So they're not necessarily correlated.
zebulingod@gmail.com wrote:
Blatant cash grab? New line editor? Did they just decide 5th wasn’t worth it? >>
I have to say, I didn’t bother buying all the 5th Ed books, and I’m not >>especially looking forward to buying 6th Ed, either. Not at the current (or >>presumably higher) prices, anyway...
Not to kick off a new round of edition wars, but I've not heard generally good >things about SR6, (from fans of any edition) - at best it's a mixed bag >combined with terrible editing, so even as a matter of being a completionist >I'm waiting for a reporting with errata. (I still recall the insert with >errata for the 2nd Ed GM screen - it had the in-character-style quote "Hey, >better this than a third edition" - FASA )
Has anyone heard otherwise?
This raises the very interesting (to me, at least) question of what MAKES Shadowrun?
- mix of cyber and magic
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On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 9:47 AM M Weber < weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
what I've seen seems to be a further dilution of what makes this
ShadowRun, especially WRT spellcasting.
This raises the very interesting (to me, at least) question of what MAKES >Shadowrun?
The longer answer is that I have no more trust and faith in the folks >currently managing the property. Evidence of both their awareness and their >competency has been on a steady decline for the last 2.5 editions (starting >partway through SR4, into SR5, and now into SR6). I started to write a much >longer response, but figured folks didn't want to wade through an analysis of >game design that reads like a deposition. :)
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