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  • [SR] Map of Aztlan?

    From Gurth@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jul 9 13:57:32 2016
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    Is there a map of Aztlan in any fourth- or fifth-edition book that
    shows the country’s state borders? I assume they’re much like the
    modern Mexican ones, but I’m wondering where the borders were drawn in
    the territory that was once in the USA (like southern Texas, Arizona,
    etc.). The old Aztlan sourcebook doesn’t give any clues on this that I
    could find without reading it in full.

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  • From Peter Boddy@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jul 11 07:40:38 2016
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    I think "War" from the 4th/20th Anniversary edition has a map of Aztlan
    and Amazonia. I'm at work so I can't confirm currently.

    On Sat, Jul 9, 2016 at 7:57 AM, Gurth <gurth@xs4all.nl> wrote:

    Is there a map of Aztlan in any fourth- or fifth-edition book that shows
    the country’s state borders? I assume they’re much like the modern
    Mexican ones, but I’m wondering where the borders were drawn in the
    territory that was once in the USA (like southern Texas, Arizona, etc.).
    The old Aztlan sourcebook doesn’t give any clues on this that I could
    find without reading it in full.

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  • From Gurth@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jul 11 15:27:15 2016
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    Op 11 jul. 2016, om 13:40 heeft Peter Boddy <pdboddy@gmail.com> het
    volgende geschreven:

    I think "War" from the 4th/20th Anniversary edition has a map of
    Aztlan and Amazonia. I'm at work so I can't confirm currently.

    You don’t mean the 20th anniversary edition main rulebook, do you? I
    just looked in that and couldn’t find a section titled “War” nor a map
    of Aztlan.

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  • From Gurth@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jul 11 15:58:24 2016
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    Op 11 jul. 2016, om 15:52 heeft John Geoffrey <gmkeros@gmail.com> het
    volgende geschreven:

    No, there was a sourcebook called that.

    I figured as much, but the 20th anniversary comment confused me a bit.

    Don't know if it has a map though, I just know the book exists.

    Indeed it does … I stopped keeping up after the first few years of fourth edition. If anyone has it, could I ask you check it for me? :)

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  • From Peter Boddy@21:1/5 to gurth@xs4all.nl on Mon Jul 11 10:55:30 2016
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    Yeah, sorry for the confusion, but I see the 4th edition as two parts, 4th edition, and then once the 20th edition came out, all the sourcebooks
    after it were 20th edition in my mind.

    I'll check my copy of War when I get home, assuming no one else has.

    In article <986C2983-7E49-4A77-A944-DF6AB632EDF3@xs4all.nl>,
    gurth@xs4all.nl wrote:


    Op 11 jul. 2016, om 15:52 heeft John Geoffrey <gmkeros@gmail.com> het >volgende geschreven:

    No, there was a sourcebook called that.

    I figured as much, but the 20th anniversary comment confused me a bit.

    Don't know if it has a map though, I just know the book exists.

    Indeed it does … I stopped keeping up after the first few years of fourth >edition. If anyone has it, could I ask you check it for me? :)

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  • From John Geoffrey@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jul 11 15:52:09 2016
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    No, there was a sourcebook called that.

    https://www.amazon.com/War-Shadowrun-Sourcebook-David-Hill/dp/1934857688

    Don't know if it has a map though, I just know the book exists.


    In article <8591FD86-371B-4197-B3F8-E2312A441CFF@xs4all.nl>, gurth@xs4all.nl wrote:
    Op 11 jul. 2016, om 13:40 heeft Peter Boddy <pdboddy@gmail.com> het
    volgende geschreven:

    I think "War" from the 4th/20th Anniversary edition has a map of
    Aztlan and Amazonia. I'm at work so I can't confirm currently.

    You don’t mean the 20th anniversary edition main rulebook, do you?
    I just looked in that and couldn’t find a section titled “War” nor
    a map of Aztlan.

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    Dat is zoveel beter dan domweg gelukkig zijn
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  • From Gurth@21:1/5 to All on Thu Aug 25 23:44:37 2016
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    Op 11 jul. 2016, om 13:40 heeft Peter Boddy <pdboddy@gmail.com> het volgende geschreven:


    I think "War" from the 4th/20th Anniversary edition has a map of Aztlan and Amazonia.
    I'm at work so I can't confirm currently.

    To whom it may be of interest (which, I suspect, will mainly be me): I
    finally managed to obtain a bunch of fourth-edition books, and War! doesn’t seem to say much about Aztlan’s internal organization. The Sixth World
    Almanac does, though I get the distinct impression the writer of the chapter
    on Aztlan didn’t really look at maps for it. The chapter has a list of
    Aztlan’s states, and that is basically one of all modern Mexican states plus the countries in Central and South America that Aztlan absorbed, but minus a few omissions — mainly a few of the smaller Mexican states. It certainly doesn’t give me the impression that the writer realized how much territory Aztlan gained along its northern border, but rather (if he/she thought about
    it at all) that the new land would simply be incorporated into the existing states.

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