On 3/1/2024 7:01 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
On Thu, 29 Feb 2024 15:49:17 -0800, Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On 2/29/2024 8:22 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
On Wed, 28 Feb 2024 06:31:38 -0800, Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com>
wrote:
For the most part those who DM have been better players than chronic
players in my experience. There's always that one glaring exception though.
I'm not really a bad player. I'm an okay player, rarely disruptive to
the party, have good ideas and - while I know the rules - generally
don't rules-lawyer my way to success (honestly, most of the time when
I do call out on the rules it's usually to my PCs detriment.). But I
just enjoy DMing a lot more so even when I'm relegated to the ranks I
try to escape back into the big chair. ;-)
I'm sure I'd appreciate that. I never really had much trouble from
rules-lawyers either, except one who was both a rules-lawyer, a
power-gamer and refused to lose arguments.
Like I said, the DMs (who are also my players in other games) usually appreciate the advice... but its disruptive and (I think) somewhat presumptuous of me.
It's not that I'm a bad player; I'm just the exception to the rule
that DMs are better players than players are. ;-)
I doubt that. I'd rather have an engaged player than one who isn't or is deliberately pitting other characters against each other (I had 2
different players do that,) or the larger number of people who were more interested in attempted murder on the rest of the party. I had one
player I let do the rules lawyering for me, looking up stuff, where I
hadn't already rule 0'd it. It was very freeing as I could continue
running the game while he looked up things and he always made pretty
good interpretations. I'm also pretty good at saying something to the
effect of "let's table that for later" if things get too off track about
such, at least as long as you're amenable to that (unlike the rules lawyer/power gamer problem player I mentioned who wouldn't let anything go.)
I was thinking of one DM I played with for many years, who was greatly appreciated by all his players. I bought into the hype, but looking
back he was playing favorites with the same rules lawyer/power gamer
letting him get away with stuff that made his character very powerful,
while shooting down anything I tried to do, which made me feel very
redundant to the game, might as well not have been playing at all.
When he joined my game he insisted on playing a 18:00 str half-orc with
3 int/wis without rolling his stats. I finally caved one day as I said
he was well loved and the other players who also played in his game
wanted him to play. That was funny all of 2 minutes, until he
constantly ground everything to a halt with his antics of deliberately misinterpreting anything that was asked of him by the other players. Fortunately he quit after the one game, so I didn't have to kick him out.
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