• WotC losening AI restrictions.

    From Justisaur@21:1/5 to All on Wed Dec 20 07:38:45 2023
    https://www.dndbeyond.com/posts/1642-updated-statement-on-ai

    The text:

    "
    For 50 years, D&D has been built on the innovation, ingenuity, and hard
    work of talented people who sculpt a beautiful, creative game. That
    isn't changing. Our internal guidelines remain the same with regards to artificial intelligence tools: We require artists, writers, and
    creatives contributing to the D&D TTRPG to refrain from using AI
    generative tools to create final D&D products. We work with some of the
    most talented artists and creatives in the world, and we believe those
    people are what makes D&D great.
    "

    It's not entirely clear what they mean about "final D&D products," but
    they also laid off most of their art staff.


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  • From Justisaur@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Thu Dec 21 13:03:21 2023
    On 12/21/2023 9:47 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    On Wed, 20 Dec 2023 07:38:45 -0800, Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com>
    wrote:


    https://www.dndbeyond.com/posts/1642-updated-statement-on-ai

    The text:

    "
    For 50 years, D&D has been built on the innovation, ingenuity, and hard
    work of talented people who sculpt a beautiful, creative game. That
    isn't changing. Our internal guidelines remain the same with regards to
    artificial intelligence tools: We require artists, writers, and
    creatives contributing to the D&D TTRPG to refrain from using AI
    generative tools to create final D&D products. We work with some of the
    most talented artists and creatives in the world, and we believe those
    people are what makes D&D great.
    "

    It's not entirely clear what they mean about "final D&D products," but
    they also laid off most of their art staff.

    Heh. I thought you were just giving us the highlights of their
    statement, but no, that's the entirity of it.

    What was their previous policy? Because their current one seems to say
    that AI-generated tools /aren't/ to be used, which seems fairly
    strict. Was it the same, except they threatened to kill your dog if
    you tried? Otherwise, I don't see any loosening of the rules ;-)

    Other than that... I don't really have issue with the policy. But I
    came from an era when making D&D adventures was completely analog, so
    I've obviously biased and old-school. Still, I'd much prefer the human element to remain the primary contributor to the hobby, especially
    since AI generated material (which, I admit, I've used in other
    mediums) is just a regurgitation of existing ideas. Keeping humans in
    the loop ensures the possibility of NEW ideas.

    Then again, this is WOTC D&D. New ideas aren't their forte. You'd
    think they'd be embracing AI.

    Was there a point to my comments? I've sort of lost track. I'm just
    ramblin' here...


    Yeah, probably people overreacting at the 'not in final product' which
    is fairly ambiguous. That could mean anything from using it as
    placeholders (which there's some reports of, but it's not clear if that
    was their doing or done without consent by artists) to using AI to make
    the art and artist touching it up, or not using AI at all.

    I do find it odd they're firing everyone before they release the next
    version of D&D they're calling "one" (the "one" ring!) does that mean
    they're done making it and just editing? What if they need to change
    some art?

    In any case I think the hubub about AI is (far) overblown after trying
    it out a little. I am interested in seeing where suits from artists
    who's art was used for training especially in instances of people using
    prompts such as "In the style of {artist}" go.

    - Justisaur


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  • From gbbgu@21:1/5 to Justisaur on Thu Jan 11 05:33:48 2024
    On 21 Dec 2023, Justisaur wrote:

    It's not entirely clear what they mean about "final D&D products," but
    they also laid off most of their art staff.

    I think we've just seen the answer to what they mean by final products (eg marketing material doesn't count as a "final product"):

    Magic: The Gathering publisher Wizards of the Coast has been forced to admit that it published a marketing image for the game featuring "some AI components," despite an initial insistence that the art was "created by humans and not AI."

    https://www.polygon.com/24029754/wizards-coast-magic-the-gathering-ai-art-marketing-image

    Magic the Gathering DID Use AI | Nerd Immersion:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-P3rsW3eDc


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