• Favorite D&D Cover Art

    From Spalls Hurgenson@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 13 09:45:20 2020
    Say what you want about D&D, but it has over the years had some
    terrific cover art. Personally, I happen to like the old-school art
    more than that used in the post-TSR era, but that's more a statement
    on my taste than an indictment of the quality of the art itself.
    Still, it's hard to top Elmore, Easley and Caldwell.

    My personal favorite... well, it's not easy to pick one over the rest.
    There's so many good pieces and a lot of the books have nostalgic
    value to me. For instance, I love the cover on the Moldvay Basic rules
    (with the sultry spell-slinger and the long-necked green dragon), even
    though - if pressed - I'd have to admit the actual art style doesn't
    appeal to me all that much. Similarly, Robin Wood's harper-n-dragon
    combo from the "Time of the Dragon" boxed set is wonderfully
    evocative, but falls short because the material its attached to isn't
    that memorable to me.

    But if pressed, I'd almost certainly gravitate towards the revised
    version of the 1st Edition Dungeon Master's Guide; you know, the one
    with the green-clad wizard opening up the doors to hell by David
    Sutherland. The painting itself is beautifully detailed; even taken
    apart from the book, it is worthwhile art. It definitely serves its
    purpose in making me want to pick up the book - even four decades
    long, it can work that same magic. Plus, the artwork is incredibly
    fitting as the cover of the book it graces; open up this tome, it
    says, and you too will be like this wizard, unleashing magic and
    mystery on your players. So in all respects - beauty, marketability,
    and suitability, its an excellent cover.

    (the 2nd Edition PHB and DMG tie for second place and, while it isn't
    proper art, I give the third-place nod to the 2nd Ed Players
    Handbook/DM Reference Guides/Historical Campaign books just because
    they so nice on the shelf sitting next to each other ;-)

    What's your favorite D&D cover-art?

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  • From Justisaur@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Fri Mar 13 08:44:39 2020
    On Friday, March 13, 2020 at 6:45:37 AM UTC-7, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    Say what you want about D&D, but it has over the years had some
    terrific cover art. Personally, I happen to like the old-school art
    more than that used in the post-TSR era, but that's more a statement
    on my taste than an indictment of the quality of the art itself.
    Still, it's hard to top Elmore, Easley and Caldwell.

    My personal favorite... well, it's not easy to pick one over the rest. There's so many good pieces and a lot of the books have nostalgic
    value to me. For instance, I love the cover on the Moldvay Basic rules
    (with the sultry spell-slinger and the long-necked green dragon), even
    though - if pressed - I'd have to admit the actual art style doesn't
    appeal to me all that much. Similarly, Robin Wood's harper-n-dragon
    combo from the "Time of the Dragon" boxed set is wonderfully
    evocative, but falls short because the material its attached to isn't
    that memorable to me.

    But if pressed, I'd almost certainly gravitate towards the revised
    version of the 1st Edition Dungeon Master's Guide; you know, the one
    with the green-clad wizard opening up the doors to hell by David
    Sutherland. The painting itself is beautifully detailed; even taken
    apart from the book, it is worthwhile art. It definitely serves its
    purpose in making me want to pick up the book - even four decades
    long, it can work that same magic. Plus, the artwork is incredibly
    fitting as the cover of the book it graces; open up this tome, it
    says, and you too will be like this wizard, unleashing magic and
    mystery on your players. So in all respects - beauty, marketability,
    and suitability, its an excellent cover.

    (the 2nd Edition PHB and DMG tie for second place and, while it isn't
    proper art, I give the third-place nod to the 2nd Ed Players
    Handbook/DM Reference Guides/Historical Campaign books just because
    they so nice on the shelf sitting next to each other ;-)

    What's your favorite D&D cover-art?

    Hands down Trampier's 1e D&D PHB - the iconic demon statue with the party looting it and the dead lizardmen they obviously just killed.

    I'm partial to most of Otis' module covers too though, I think D3 probably being my favorite.

    I have a special place in my heart for the Holmes Basic cover art as that's what I started with, but really it's not that good.

    I find the Efreet cover 1e DMG not all that good, the efreet is just standing there like he's posing or standing at attention, absently holding the bikini clad woman.

    - Justisaur

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  • From JimP@21:1/5 to justisaur@gmail.com on Fri Mar 13 11:28:20 2020
    On Fri, 13 Mar 2020 08:44:39 -0700 (PDT), Justisaur
    <justisaur@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Friday, March 13, 2020 at 6:45:37 AM UTC-7, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    Say what you want about D&D, but it has over the years had some
    terrific cover art. Personally, I happen to like the old-school art
    more than that used in the post-TSR era, but that's more a statement
    on my taste than an indictment of the quality of the art itself.
    Still, it's hard to top Elmore, Easley and Caldwell.

    My personal favorite... well, it's not easy to pick one over the rest.
    There's so many good pieces and a lot of the books have nostalgic
    value to me. For instance, I love the cover on the Moldvay Basic rules
    (with the sultry spell-slinger and the long-necked green dragon), even
    though - if pressed - I'd have to admit the actual art style doesn't
    appeal to me all that much. Similarly, Robin Wood's harper-n-dragon
    combo from the "Time of the Dragon" boxed set is wonderfully
    evocative, but falls short because the material its attached to isn't
    that memorable to me.

    But if pressed, I'd almost certainly gravitate towards the revised
    version of the 1st Edition Dungeon Master's Guide; you know, the one
    with the green-clad wizard opening up the doors to hell by David
    Sutherland. The painting itself is beautifully detailed; even taken
    apart from the book, it is worthwhile art. It definitely serves its
    purpose in making me want to pick up the book - even four decades
    long, it can work that same magic. Plus, the artwork is incredibly
    fitting as the cover of the book it graces; open up this tome, it
    says, and you too will be like this wizard, unleashing magic and
    mystery on your players. So in all respects - beauty, marketability,
    and suitability, its an excellent cover.

    (the 2nd Edition PHB and DMG tie for second place and, while it isn't
    proper art, I give the third-place nod to the 2nd Ed Players
    Handbook/DM Reference Guides/Historical Campaign books just because
    they so nice on the shelf sitting next to each other ;-)

    What's your favorite D&D cover-art?

    Hands down Trampier's 1e D&D PHB - the iconic demon statue with the party >looting it and the dead lizardmen they obviously just killed.

    I'm partial to most of Otis' module covers too though, I think D3 probably >being my favorite.

    I have a special place in my heart for the Holmes Basic cover art as that's >what I started with, but really it's not that good.

    I find the Efreet cover 1e DMG not all that good, the efreet is just standing there like he's posing or standing at attention, absently holding the bikini clad woman.

    - Justisaur

    The back cover of the 1e DMG has the rest of the picture. :-)

    They are in the City of Brass.

    --
    Jim

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  • From Spalls Hurgenson@21:1/5 to justisaur@gmail.com on Sat Mar 14 14:16:30 2020
    On Fri, 13 Mar 2020 08:44:39 -0700 (PDT), Justisaur
    <justisaur@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Friday, March 13, 2020 at 6:45:37 AM UTC-7, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:


    What's your favorite D&D cover-art?

    Hands down Trampier's 1e D&D PHB - the iconic demon statue with the party >looting it and the dead lizardmen they obviously just killed.

    I should have guessed this one gets the nod; it's a common favorite.
    It certainly evokes the game, showing a mixed party of warriors,
    thieves and wizards looting a demonic statue surrounded by dead
    monsters; it is very on-the-nose. But its style and proportions always
    felt too cartoony, too comic book to appeal to me very much. I've
    always preferred the more realistic styles of Elmore, etc.

    I'm partial to most of Otis' module covers too though, I think D3 probably >being my favorite. I have a special place in my heart for the Holmes Basic
    cover art as that's what I started with, but really it's not that good.

    No, but it has heart. The cover art for Moldvay edition isn't much
    better but, as you said, its nostalgic value pops it higher up the
    list than it probably deserves.

    I find the Efreet cover 1e DMG not all that good, the efreet is just standing there like he's posing or standing at attention, absently holding the bikini clad woman.

    Never doubt the ability of bikini-clad women on your cover to help
    sell books!

    Other pieces of note that I almost favor:
    "The Manual of the Planes" (1st Ed) has an awesome cover; it's
    gorgeous and it makes you want to buy the book to find out what the
    hell the monster on the cover is. It only fails because /there's no
    such monster/ in the book!

    Conversely, the cover for "Temple of Elemental Evil" is a well-drawn
    and detailed piece of art that accurately depicts the eponymous cover,
    but it's such a dreadful looking place that it actually makes me /not/
    want to read the book. ;-)



    We might find more concordance in choosing the /worst/ cover art. I'd
    nominate the original Monster Manual artwork by Sutherland. That one's
    just terrible. ;-)

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  • From Justisaur@21:1/5 to Spalls Hurgenson on Wed Mar 18 12:34:34 2020
    On Saturday, March 14, 2020 at 11:16:49 AM UTC-7, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    On Fri, 13 Mar 2020 08:44:39 -0700 (PDT), Justisaur
    <justisaur@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Friday, March 13, 2020 at 6:45:37 AM UTC-7, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:


    What's your favorite D&D cover-art?

    Hands down Trampier's 1e D&D PHB - the iconic demon statue with the party >looting it and the dead lizardmen they obviously just killed.

    I should have guessed this one gets the nod; it's a common favorite.
    It certainly evokes the game, showing a mixed party of warriors,
    thieves and wizards looting a demonic statue surrounded by dead
    monsters; it is very on-the-nose. But its style and proportions always
    felt too cartoony, too comic book to appeal to me very much. I've
    always preferred the more realistic styles of Elmore, etc.

    I'm partial to most of Otis' module covers too though, I think D3 probably >being my favorite. I have a special place in my heart for the Holmes Basic
    cover art as that's what I started with, but really it's not that good.

    No, but it has heart. The cover art for Moldvay edition isn't much
    better but, as you said, its nostalgic value pops it higher up the
    list than it probably deserves.

    I find the Efreet cover 1e DMG not all that good, the efreet is just standing
    there like he's posing or standing at attention, absently holding the bikini
    clad woman.

    Never doubt the ability of bikini-clad women on your cover to help
    sell books!

    Other pieces of note that I almost favor:
    "The Manual of the Planes" (1st Ed) has an awesome cover; it's
    gorgeous and it makes you want to buy the book to find out what the
    hell the monster on the cover is. It only fails because /there's no
    such monster/ in the book!

    /agree


    Conversely, the cover for "Temple of Elemental Evil" is a well-drawn
    and detailed piece of art that accurately depicts the eponymous cover,
    but it's such a dreadful looking place that it actually makes me /not/
    want to read the book. ;-)


    /agree

    It commits the worst sin of an entertainment product. It's boring.

    T1 cover is a bit better, it at least has some action, but it's very bad art. The drawing with the flaming eye cultists & giant crayfish on the inside of the module is my favorite.


    We might find more concordance in choosing the /worst/ cover art. I'd nominate the original Monster Manual artwork by Sutherland. That one's
    just terrible. ;-)

    At least it shows what's in the book in color and is faithful to the illustrations within, but yeah. I know some people love that one though.

    The cover of G1 is bad, it's a bunch of giants just standing there.

    While I have a shirt with it (got it as a present), the red box (Mentzer
    basic) I hate because the dragon looks like a cross-eyed cupie doll what
    with it's one horn. The art action and composition is otherwise great, but
    the stupid looking dragon ruins it.

    The OD&D cover art is really easy to pick on, it's all B&W, the worst is the one with the knight on a horse rearing as it's difficult to tell it's a
    knight without studying it. Blackmoor isn't great either - it's a castle on
    a hill silhouette.

    I really just never cared much for 2e cover art, it's mostly just kind of bland (the campaign setting are better - Darksun, Planscape & Spelljammer)

    - Justisaur

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