You know, I remember the times when CC was this kind of software that
was just too expensive to really consider buying. In my mind this stuff
is still in the hundreds of Euros. And then ProFantasy sold it for like
15 bucks during the pandemic, and I got it there, and later Humble
Bundle offered it for even cheaper with addons >(https://www.humblebundle.com/software/maps-extravaganza-encore-software?hmb_source=navbar&hmb_medium=product_tile&hmb_campaign=tile_index_7
which is still going).
And I... am a bit disappointed. I expected a bit more than what I am
getting there. It's basically a CAD program for making fantasy maps, but
it also is difficult to use and needs a plethora of additional assets to
make it usable. In fact if I didn't buy that bundle I would have felt
like it was barely usable (they don't advertise the fact they have some >additional free downloads on their website all that well, they are
hidden as a free sampler of their subscription service).
Anybody using it for anything in their games?
You know, I remember the times when CC was this kind of software
that was just too expensive to really consider buying. In my
mind this stuff is still in the hundreds of Euros.
And then
ProFantasy sold it for like 15 bucks during the pandemic, and I
got it there, and later Humble Bundle offered it for even
cheaper with addons (https://www.humblebundle.com/software/maps-extravaganza-encore-s oftware?hmb_source=navbar&hmb_medium=product_tile&hmb_campaign=ti
le_index_7 which is still going).
And I... am a bit disappointed. I expected a bit more than what
I am getting there. It's basically a CAD program for making
fantasy maps,
but it also is difficult to use
and needs a
plethora of additional assets to make it usable. In fact if I
didn't buy that bundle I would have felt like it was barely
usable (they don't advertise the fact they have some additional
free downloads on their website all that well, they are hidden
as a free sampler of their subscription service).
Anybody using it for anything in their games?
You know, I remember the times when CC was this kind of software that
was just too expensive to really consider buying. In my mind this stuff
is still in the hundreds of Euros. And then ProFantasy sold it for like
15 bucks during the pandemic, and I got it there, and later Humble
Bundle offered it for even cheaper with addons >(https://www.humblebundle.com/software/maps-extravaganza-encore-software?hmb_source=navbar&hmb_medium=product_tile&hmb_campaign=tile_index_7
which is still going).
And I... am a bit disappointed. I expected a bit more than what I am
getting there. It's basically a CAD program for making fantasy maps, but
it also is difficult to use and needs a plethora of additional assets to
make it usable. In fact if I didn't buy that bundle I would have felt
like it was barely usable (they don't advertise the fact they have some >additional free downloads on their website all that well, they are
hidden as a free sampler of their subscription service).
Anybody using it for anything in their games?
Dungeon Painter Studio
It can be, if you pay full price and buy the entire package.
You're not limited to using *only* their art assets. You can use
any standard graphics formats (though PNG works best, since JPEG
doesn't do transparent backgrounds). There's *tons* of art
collections floating around, some free, like Vintryi, which has an
installer specific to CC3+ available.
https://www.vintyri.org/vintyri/cc3p_addons.htm
On 04/01/2021 22:53, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
It can be, if you pay full price and buy the entire package.
yes, but I remember those times when even just the basic CC ran into the >hundreds. Also I got most of the basic addons thanks to the addons, just >Cosmographer is missing for my purposes.
But yes, they do have this Annual Subscription service and getting all
of those would easily take another 300 quid
You're not limited to using *only* their art assets. You can use
any standard graphics formats (though PNG works best, since JPEG
doesn't do transparent backgrounds). There's *tons* of art
collections floating around, some free, like Vintryi, which has an installer specific to CC3+ available.
https://www.vintyri.org/vintyri/cc3p_addons.htm
yes, and installing them took ages but I do have them.
one thing I noticed is that someone updated the Mappa Harnica package
for making HarnWorld maps to CC3+. So I installed that as well. I do
like that setting as well.
http://theharniac.net/downloads/other_downloads.htm
On Wed, 6 Jan 2021 12:09:37 +0100, JG <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote:
On 04/01/2021 22:53, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
It can be, if you pay full price and buy the entire package.
yes, but I remember those times when even just the basic CC ran into the >>hundreds. Also I got most of the basic addons thanks to the addons, just >>Cosmographer is missing for my purposes.
But yes, they do have this Annual Subscription service and getting all
of those would easily take another 300 quid
Well, those are Annuals, different mapping styles. I have them all. I
bought the software piece meal. Not all at once.
They cut the price in half for the main program, and included for free
Schley mapping and symbols for dungeons.
I bought CC2 for about 30-50 dollars. Overland maps only.
But I have all of CC3+ now.
You're not limited to using *only* their art assets. You can use
any standard graphics formats (though PNG works best, since JPEG
doesn't do transparent backgrounds). There's *tons* of art
collections floating around, some free, like Vintryi, which has an
installer specific to CC3+ available.
https://www.vintyri.org/vintyri/cc3p_addons.htm
yes, and installing them took ages but I do have them.
one thing I noticed is that someone updated the Mappa Harnica package
for making HarnWorld maps to CC3+. So I installed that as well. I do
like that setting as well.
http://theharniac.net/downloads/other_downloads.htm
There are also Dundjinni assets that have been converted for CC3+.
Check the Vintryi site.
On 04/01/2021 20:39, Zaghadka wrote:
Dungeon Painter Studio
hmm... it's early access. but I wonder if I actually need that one.
I think for dungeons I have different other stuff. I bought CC3 mostly
for Overland and City maps. I wanted to make an overview map of the
beginner sandbox I am piecing together lately.
Lately most of my games have been with beginners who really wanted to
see how this RPG stuff actually works, and mostly over discord. And I
expect my sons will want to try that out as well once they are old enough.
On Wed, 6 Jan 2021 12:04:46 +0100, in rec.games.frp.dnd, JG wrote:
On 04/01/2021 20:39, Zaghadka wrote:Notes on DPS:
Dungeon Painter Studio
hmm... it's early access. but I wonder if I actually need that one.
I think for dungeons I have different other stuff. I bought CC3 mostly
for Overland and City maps. I wanted to make an overview map of the >>beginner sandbox I am piecing together lately.
Lately most of my games have been with beginners who really wanted to
see how this RPG stuff actually works, and mostly over discord. And I >>expect my sons will want to try that out as well once they are old enough.
Early access in this case means that the interface is crude and not well >designed. It's all perfectly functional and I've created several Roll20
maps with it (it will export to a native 70x70 pixel square format), but
it's hobbyist documented and inelegant. I've never had a crash.
It's also fairly useless without downloading free assets from the Steam >Workshop. The entire collection of Forgotten Adventures (FA) sets is a
good place to start.
On Thu, 07 Jan 2021 06:45:43 -0600, Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On Wed, 6 Jan 2021 12:04:46 +0100, in rec.games.frp.dnd, JG wrote:
On 04/01/2021 20:39, Zaghadka wrote:Notes on DPS:
Dungeon Painter Studio
hmm... it's early access. but I wonder if I actually need that one.
I think for dungeons I have different other stuff. I bought CC3 mostly >>>for Overland and City maps. I wanted to make an overview map of the >>>beginner sandbox I am piecing together lately.
Lately most of my games have been with beginners who really wanted to
see how this RPG stuff actually works, and mostly over discord. And I >>>expect my sons will want to try that out as well once they are old enough. >>>
Early access in this case means that the interface is crude and not well >>designed. It's all perfectly functional and I've created several Roll20 >>maps with it (it will export to a native 70x70 pixel square format), but >>it's hobbyist documented and inelegant. I've never had a crash.
It's also fairly useless without downloading free assets from the Steam >>Workshop. The entire collection of Forgotten Adventures (FA) sets is a
good place to start.
Really ? I have turned out thousands of maps, and never downloaded
anything from Steam.
There is a Tome that covers many aspects of all of the software. Pdf
updates are free.
On Thu, 07 Jan 2021 10:55:06 -0600, in rec.games.frp.dnd, JimP wrote:
On Thu, 07 Jan 2021 06:45:43 -0600, Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On Wed, 6 Jan 2021 12:04:46 +0100, in rec.games.frp.dnd, JG wrote:
On 04/01/2021 20:39, Zaghadka wrote:Notes on DPS:
Dungeon Painter Studio
hmm... it's early access. but I wonder if I actually need that one.
I think for dungeons I have different other stuff. I bought CC3 mostly >>>>for Overland and City maps. I wanted to make an overview map of the >>>>beginner sandbox I am piecing together lately.
Lately most of my games have been with beginners who really wanted to >>>>see how this RPG stuff actually works, and mostly over discord. And I >>>>expect my sons will want to try that out as well once they are old enough. >>>>
Early access in this case means that the interface is crude and not well >>>designed. It's all perfectly functional and I've created several Roll20 >>>maps with it (it will export to a native 70x70 pixel square format), but >>>it's hobbyist documented and inelegant. I've never had a crash.
It's also fairly useless without downloading free assets from the Steam >>>Workshop. The entire collection of Forgotten Adventures (FA) sets is a >>>good place to start.
Really ? I have turned out thousands of maps, and never downloaded
anything from Steam.
There is a Tome that covers many aspects of all of the software. Pdf >>updates are free.
I got it from Steam. I presumed, incorrectly, that it was a Steam thing.
Thanks for the information.
Notes on DPS:
Early access in this case means that the interface is crude and not well >>>> designed. It's all perfectly functional and I've created several Roll20 >>>> maps with it (it will export to a native 70x70 pixel square format), but >>>> it's hobbyist documented and inelegant. I've never had a crash.
It's also fairly useless without downloading free assets from the Steam >>>> Workshop. The entire collection of Forgotten Adventures (FA) sets is a >>>> good place to start.
Really ? I have turned out thousands of maps, and never downloaded
anything from Steam.
There is a Tome that covers many aspects of all of the software. Pdf
updates are free.
I got it from Steam. I presumed, incorrectly, that it was a Steam thing.
Thanks for the information.
You're welcome. Their official site is at: https://www.profantasy.com/
On 07/01/2021 20:45, JimP wrote:
Notes on DPS:
Early access in this case means that the interface is crude
and not well designed. It's all perfectly functional and
I've created several Roll20 maps with it (it will export to
a native 70x70 pixel square format), but it's hobbyist
documented and inelegant. I've never had a crash.
It's also fairly useless without downloading free assets
from the Steam Workshop. The entire collection of Forgotten
Adventures (FA) sets is a good place to start.
Really ? I have turned out thousands of maps, and never
downloaded anything from Steam.
There is a Tome that covers many aspects of all of the
software. Pdf updates are free.
I got it from Steam. I presumed, incorrectly, that it was a
Steam thing.
Thanks for the information.
You're welcome. Their official site is at:
https://www.profantasy.com/
uhm... guys... I think you are talking at cross-purposes. One of
you is talking about Dungeon Painter Studio, the other about
Campaign Cartographer. DPS is on Steam, CC as far as I know
isn't.
On 07/01/2021 20:45, JimP wrote:
Notes on DPS:
Early access in this case means that the interface is crude and not well >>>>> designed. It's all perfectly functional and I've created several Roll20 >>>>> maps with it (it will export to a native 70x70 pixel square format), but >>>>> it's hobbyist documented and inelegant. I've never had a crash.
It's also fairly useless without downloading free assets from the Steam >>>>> Workshop. The entire collection of Forgotten Adventures (FA) sets is a >>>>> good place to start.
Really ? I have turned out thousands of maps, and never downloaded
anything from Steam.
There is a Tome that covers many aspects of all of the software. Pdf
updates are free.
I got it from Steam. I presumed, incorrectly, that it was a Steam thing. >>>
Thanks for the information.
You're welcome. Their official site is at: https://www.profantasy.com/
uhm... guys... I think you are talking at cross-purposes. One of you is >talking about Dungeon Painter Studio, the other about Campaign
Cartographer. DPS is on Steam, CC as far as I know isn't.
On Thu, 7 Jan 2021 22:08:00 +0100, in rec.games.frp.dnd, JG wrote:
On 07/01/2021 20:45, JimP wrote:
Notes on DPS:
Early access in this case means that the interface is crude and not well >>>>>> designed. It's all perfectly functional and I've created several Roll20 >>>>>> maps with it (it will export to a native 70x70 pixel square format), but >>>>>> it's hobbyist documented and inelegant. I've never had a crash.
It's also fairly useless without downloading free assets from the Steam >>>>>> Workshop. The entire collection of Forgotten Adventures (FA) sets is a >>>>>> good place to start.
Really ? I have turned out thousands of maps, and never downloaded
anything from Steam.
There is a Tome that covers many aspects of all of the software. Pdf >>>>> updates are free.
I got it from Steam. I presumed, incorrectly, that it was a Steam thing. >>>>
Thanks for the information.
You're welcome. Their official site is at: https://www.profantasy.com/
uhm... guys... I think you are talking at cross-purposes. One of you is >>talking about Dungeon Painter Studio, the other about Campaign >>Cartographer. DPS is on Steam, CC as far as I know isn't.
I have both. I guess it's easy to get confused. ;^)
It has a learning curve like all software. Go through the tutorials.
On Tuesday, January 5, 2021 at 8:21:28 AM UTC-8, JimP wrote:
It has a learning curve like all software. Go through the
tutorials.
Like all software, [CC3] has a learning curve. This learning
curve is not like the learning curve of other software... :)
Keith J Davies <keith.davies@gmail.com> wrote in >news:835fb20c-163a-4cf5-bc17-3f0d3df8955bn@googlegroups.com:
On Tuesday, January 5, 2021 at 8:21:28 AM UTC-8, JimP wrote:it is a bit more of a learning cliff. Scaling it requires special
It has a learning curve like all software. Go through the
tutorials.
Like all software, [CC3] has a learning curve. This learning
curve is not like the learning curve of other software... :)
equipment, unless one is already an expert.
On Tue, 09 Mar 2021 08:24:03 -0700, Jibini Kula Tumbili
Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
Keith J Davies <keith.davies@gmail.com> wrote in >>news:835fb20c-163a-4cf5-bc17-3f0d3df8955bn@googlegroups.com:
On Tuesday, January 5, 2021 at 8:21:28 AM UTC-8, JimP wrote:it is a bit more of a learning cliff. Scaling it requires
It has a learning curve like all software. Go through the
tutorials.
Like all software, [CC3] has a learning curve. This learning
curve is not like the learning curve of other software... :)
special equipment, unless one is already an expert.
There are tutorials, some text and some on youtube. Its based on
FastCAD, it isn't a paint program.
Over the past 16 years I have made over five thousand maps. So
it is learnable.
I went from knowing only paper, pencil, and ruler, to making
thousands of maps. You can to, if you try.
On Tue, 09 Mar 2021 12:59:54 -0700, Jibini Kula Tumbili
Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> wrote in >>news:9lkf4ghknqamjnjs9gbuba7hthcnd9jsvh@4ax.com:
On Tue, 09 Mar 2021 08:24:03 -0700, Jibini Kula Tumbili
Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
Keith J Davies <keith.davies@gmail.com> wrote in >>>>news:835fb20c-163a-4cf5-bc17-3f0d3df8955bn@googlegroups.com:
On Tuesday, January 5, 2021 at 8:21:28 AM UTC-8, JimP wrote:it is a bit more of a learning cliff. Scaling it requires
It has a learning curve like all software. Go through the
tutorials.
Like all software, [CC3] has a learning curve. This learning
curve is not like the learning curve of other software... :)
special equipment, unless one is already an expert.
There are tutorials, some text and some on youtube. Its based
on FastCAD, it isn't a paint program.
No, it's a CAD program, and an early one. (Or, at least, the
interface carries the legacy of an early one.)
When I bought it, a couple of years ago, I bought the entire
Over the past 16 years I have made over five thousand maps. So
it is learnable.
I went from knowing only paper, pencil, and ruler, to making
thousands of maps. You can to, if you try.
package. There are parts of it I will *never* use, but other
parts are quite useful. I keep the annual subscription up to
date, too. Only thing I've passed on is the updated Dioramas and
the token colletions (because I don't use pog tokens).
If you want to learn how to use those other bits, you can always
stop by the official forums and post questions.
I never thought I would use Cosmographer, as an example, but I
did eventually.
https://forum.profantasy.com/
Yeah, I have Dioramas, but I don't think I'll be using it.
JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> wrote in >news:9lkf4ghknqamjnjs9gbuba7hthcnd9jsvh@4ax.com:
On Tue, 09 Mar 2021 08:24:03 -0700, Jibini Kula Tumbili
Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
Keith J Davies <keith.davies@gmail.com> wrote in >>>news:835fb20c-163a-4cf5-bc17-3f0d3df8955bn@googlegroups.com:
On Tuesday, January 5, 2021 at 8:21:28 AM UTC-8, JimP wrote:it is a bit more of a learning cliff. Scaling it requires
It has a learning curve like all software. Go through the
tutorials.
Like all software, [CC3] has a learning curve. This learning
curve is not like the learning curve of other software... :)
special equipment, unless one is already an expert.
There are tutorials, some text and some on youtube. Its based on
FastCAD, it isn't a paint program.
No, it's a CAD program, and an early one. (Or, at least, the
interface carries the legacy of an early one.)
When I bought it, a couple of years ago, I bought the entire
Over the past 16 years I have made over five thousand maps. So
it is learnable.
I went from knowing only paper, pencil, and ruler, to making
thousands of maps. You can to, if you try.
package. There are parts of it I will *never* use, but other parts
are quite useful. I keep the annual subscription up to date, too.
Only thing I've passed on is the updated Dioramas and the token
colletions (because I don't use pog tokens).
You know, I remember the times when CC was this kind of software that was just too expensive to really consider buying. In my mind this stuff is still in the hundreds of Euros. And then ProFantasy sold it for like 15 bucks during the pandemic, and I got it there, and later Humble Bundle offered it for even cheaper with addons (https://www.humblebundle.com/software/maps-extravaganza-encore-software?hmb_source=navbar&hmb_medium=product_tile&hmb_campaign=tile_index_7
which is still going).
And I... am a bit disappointed. I expected a bit more than what I am getting there. It's basically a CAD program for making fantasy maps, but it also is difficult to use and needs a plethora of additional assets to make it usable. In fact if I didn't buy that bundle I would have felt like it was barely usable (they don't advertise the fact they have some additional free downloads on their website all that well, they are hidden as a free sampler of their subscription service).
Anybody using it for anything in their games?
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