• The psychology of chess?

    From D@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 13 09:38:17 2024
    Hello chess experts,

    Do you ever think about the psychology of chess? What I mean, do you have
    any psychological tricks or ideas about how to pressure an opponent into mistakes, or perhaps how to boost yourself when things are looking grim?

    Best regards,
    Daniel

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  • From Chimbis@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 13 13:11:48 2024
    On 2024-03-13 09:38, D wrote:
    Hello chess experts,

    Do you ever think about the psychology of chess? What I mean, do you
    have any psychological tricks or ideas about how to pressure an opponent
    into mistakes, or perhaps how to boost yourself when things are looking
    grim?

    I played a horrible game in the new years tournament two years ago,
    going from two pawns up to an exchange down. I specifically went for a
    K+R vs K+B endgame counting on that he didn't know how to win that. He
    didn't =)

    Always try to go for the most difficult win if you are losing ...

    /C.

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  • From D@21:1/5 to Chimbis on Wed Mar 13 16:38:12 2024
    On Wed, 13 Mar 2024, Chimbis wrote:

    On 2024-03-13 09:38, D wrote:
    Hello chess experts,

    Do you ever think about the psychology of chess? What I mean, do you have
    any psychological tricks or ideas about how to pressure an opponent into
    mistakes, or perhaps how to boost yourself when things are looking grim?

    I played a horrible game in the new years tournament two years ago, going from two pawns up to an exchange down. I specifically went for a K+R vs K+B endgame counting on that he didn't know how to win that. He didn't =)

    Always try to go for the most difficult win if you are losing ...

    /C.



    Thank you very much C! Do you play professionally? And how big is the difference between that situation versus just playing with competitively
    minded friends and family?

    Best regards,
    Daniel

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  • From D@21:1/5 to William Hyde on Thu Mar 14 09:58:42 2024
    Wow, thank you William, great post!

    Why someone else? Maybe you are the one to publish such a book? =)

    So you're not a GM, but are you an IM?

    I find posts like yours one of the great charms of Chess. It is so
    incredibly deep and you can come at it from so many different ways. And
    add to that the history surrounding it!

    Best regards,
    Daniel


    On Wed, 13 Mar 2024, William Hyde wrote:

    D wrote:
    Hello chess experts,

    Do you ever think about the psychology of chess? What I mean, do you have
    any psychological tricks or ideas about how to pressure an opponent into
    mistakes,


    One trick used by strong players is to voluntarily get into time pressure. The opponent is likely to then move quickly so that the player won't "Think on their time".

    I won perhaps my most absurd victory in this way, if unintentionally. I don't know what was wrong with me that day, but by move 22 I was two pawns down and had a terrible position, plus ten minutes to make move 40. My opponent had just under two hours left. He had played well.

    I was thinking of resigning, but he began to move quickly. I awoke from my lethargy. Now it was a speed game, and I was pretty good at that. He resigned as soon as it was clear we had made time control.

    If you know your opponent you can try to steer the game into areas he does not like. In his first match against Steinitz, Lasker traded queens early in most games. Steinitz was, of course, one of the best endgame players in the world, but his real strength was in the middlegame, and he wasn't that keen on endings. It's difficult to play your best in a position you don't like.


    In his match against Blackburne (at least in those games I have seen) Lasker kept the queens on. Blackburne was also one of the best endgame players of his day, though probably not better than Steinitz (I think) but he was happy to play endings and was at his best in them.


    or perhaps how to boost yourself when things are looking
    grim?

    First, I remind myself it's just a chess game.


    Second, I remind myself of all the "won" games I have lost. If it can happen to me, it can happen to my opponent. The first few moves after the opponent gains a winning position are often an opportunity. There is often a rush to win, overconfidence. After all, if you have played so badly to this point, the opponent feels, this should be easy. Make it not easy. As Lasker said many times, there are always resources, even in terrible positions. But you won't find them if you have mentally conceded defeat.

    And if things are really grim, seek complications at any cost. Might as well go out with a bang, and it's surprising how often this works. Even a tiny reverse can upset someone who thinks he has the game in the bag, leading to further mistakes.

    Even if this doesn't work you can profit.

    I was losing a game against a strong master when I re-energized my kingside attack with an unclear sacrifice. He spent almost all of his time finding the refutation, and I did lose, but at least the game had a certain amount of class, rather than being a routine crush. And it left me in a better mood for later games with him (I did eventually start scoring, but he remained vastly the better player).

    How a loss affects your mood in the next game can be important, especially if the next game comes soon. After a particularly bad loss, an acquaintance, who had been winning both the game and the tournament, fell apart and scored no more wins. Over the next few months he dropped 250 rating points. Petrosian dealt with post-loss depression by making sure to draw the next game, Tal said that after a loss the next game would be anything but a draw.

    If a loss depresses you, find a way to deal with it. Tal's way is probably only good for Tal (I'd probably just lose a second game, extending the problem) and most of us non GMs don't know how to play for a draw (at my strength playing for a draw means playing for a loss), but find a way to shake it off.

    You don't need the moves to my crap games, but for lessons in holding a poor or lost position you could do worse than look at Lasker's games.
    The Soltis collection is extensive and readable.

    It occurs to me that someone should publish a deeply annotated book of lost games won. John Nunn, are you listening?

    William Hyde





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  • From The Horny Goat@21:1/5 to wthyde1953@gmail.com on Thu Mar 14 13:27:43 2024
    On Wed, 13 Mar 2024 17:57:18 -0400, William Hyde
    <wthyde1953@gmail.com> wrote:

    I won perhaps my most absurd victory in this way, if unintentionally. I >don't know what was wrong with me that day, but by move 22 I was two
    pawns down and had a terrible position, plus ten minutes to make move
    40. My opponent had just under two hours left. He had played well.

    My most absurd ever was years ago my last game before Christmas one
    year and I was directing (and playing) in a club event.

    Some time around move 20 I hung a piece and I >REALLY< wanted to go
    home but couldn't as I was the TD so decided to hang in there another
    10 moves before resigning.

    Half an hour later I wasn't down a piece but an exchange - so decided
    to resign in another 1/2 hour

    Half an hour after that I was a pawn down and actually had (probably
    phantom) counterplay on the other side of the board - so another 1/2
    hour....

    By which time I had a positional crush and he resigned in disgust.

    Now I wouldn't have hung in there except he was a longtime friend who
    knew my style very well and was on very good terms with (he is a
    former CFC president - that's Chess Federation of Canada for you
    MurrCans) and some 200 pts above me. I thanked him for his Christmas
    gift (knew I could say that without enraging him) and we watched the
    few games and wished him a Merry Christmas and called it a night after
    we put away our gear...

    Naturally he beat me soundly in the New Year!

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  • From The Horny Goat@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 14 13:19:14 2024
    On Wed, 13 Mar 2024 13:11:48 +0100, Chimbis <chimbis@bahnhof.se>
    wrote:

    I played a horrible game in the new years tournament two years ago,
    going from two pawns up to an exchange down. I specifically went for a
    K+R vs K+B endgame counting on that he didn't know how to win that. He
    didn't =)

    There's a regular at our events who likes to play K+B+N vs K at speed
    chess time controls for quarters - he generally comes out ahead and
    does it as he thinks it makes him better at it. (He's probably right -
    and enough people DON'T know that ending he'll take either side of the
    bet - white to play and win or black to play and draw)

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  • From D@21:1/5 to The Horny Goat on Thu Mar 14 22:21:58 2024
    On Thu, 14 Mar 2024, The Horny Goat wrote:

    On Wed, 13 Mar 2024 17:57:18 -0400, William Hyde
    <wthyde1953@gmail.com> wrote:

    I won perhaps my most absurd victory in this way, if unintentionally. I
    don't know what was wrong with me that day, but by move 22 I was two
    pawns down and had a terrible position, plus ten minutes to make move
    40. My opponent had just under two hours left. He had played well.

    My most absurd ever was years ago my last game before Christmas one
    year and I was directing (and playing) in a club event.

    Some time around move 20 I hung a piece and I >REALLY< wanted to go
    home but couldn't as I was the TD so decided to hang in there another
    10 moves before resigning.

    Half an hour later I wasn't down a piece but an exchange - so decided
    to resign in another 1/2 hour

    Half an hour after that I was a pawn down and actually had (probably
    phantom) counterplay on the other side of the board - so another 1/2
    hour....

    By which time I had a positional crush and he resigned in disgust.

    Now I wouldn't have hung in there except he was a longtime friend who
    knew my style very well and was on very good terms with (he is a
    former CFC president - that's Chess Federation of Canada for you
    MurrCans) and some 200 pts above me. I thanked him for his Christmas
    gift (knew I could say that without enraging him) and we watched the
    few games and wished him a Merry Christmas and called it a night after
    we put away our gear...

    Naturally he beat me soundly in the New Year!


    Thank you very much for sharing! It's fascinating to hear from people who
    have played their entire lives. So many stories.

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  • From D@21:1/5 to William Hyde on Fri Mar 15 11:06:20 2024
    On Thu, 14 Mar 2024, William Hyde wrote:

    D wrote:
    Wow, thank you William, great post!

    Why someone else? Maybe you are the one to publish such a book? =)

    So you're not a GM, but are you an IM?

    Not even remotely.

    I once was half-terrible, now am about three quarters terrible.

    But I understand more about chess than I did then.


    William Hyde

    And what is it about chess that kept your interest all these years despite
    not being a GM? What dimensions is it that you appreciate? =)

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  • From D@21:1/5 to William Hyde on Fri Mar 15 22:49:32 2024
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    On Fri, 15 Mar 2024, William Hyde wrote:

    D wrote:


    On Thu, 14 Mar 2024, William Hyde wrote:

    D wrote:
    Wow, thank you William, great post!

    Why someone else? Maybe you are the one to publish such a book? =)

    So you're not a GM, but are you an IM?

    Not even remotely.

    I once was half-terrible, now am about three quarters terrible.

    But I understand more about chess than I did  then.


    William Hyde

    And what is it about chess that kept your interest all these years despite >> not being a GM? What dimensions is it that you appreciate? =)

    Good questions. I don't know the answers.

    Like many here (at least when there were many here) chess fascinated me from the first time I saw it. But other things did also, and still do.
    Perhaps if I'd grown up in a land with a deep chess culture it would have dominated the others, but it didn't.

    I am uninterested in team sports, and bored by solo sports like boxing (unless A. J. Leibling is writing about it) or tennis. So chess and similar games are interesting as an outlet for competitive feelings.

    Chess gives some consolation for real world problems. If after 110 years there is still no consensus about Lasker's f4 in his game with Capablanca at St Petersburg, our failure to figure out whether supersymmetry is valid after 50 years doesn't look so bad.

    Chess has a rich culture, you can lose yourself for months in its literature and apocrypha. As with the house in Crowley's "Little, Big", the farther in you get the bigger it is.


    William Hyde

    Thank you William, that's quite poetic! If you are refering to The Sweet Science, it is also one of my favourite books! =) I also have trained in
    boxing and sparred for a few years, but never competed, so if you are
    curious I really do recommend it! There are actually interesting parallels
    in chess, believe it or not!

    Chess for me, comes and goes in cycles depending on how much else is going
    on in my life. If there's too much going on I don't have the mental energy
    for it, but when things calm down, and when I'm on vacation, I do love
    loooong over the board, informal games with my father in law. Sadly he's
    the only one close to me who enjoys chess, but the fun part of it is that
    he's better, but not enormously so, so about 20%-30% of the games I win,
    and that keeps it fun.

    I compared that with my experience playing against a former colleague, an
    IM, and that was not even a game. One immortal quote from him was once
    when we were playing and he stopped, and we asked him if he had any
    trouble...

    He answered... I can mate you in 7 but I'm trying to figure out the most beautiful way to do it. ;)

    On the other hand, he got his punishment! Once he played online against
    Magnus and he treated him just the way, that the IM was treating me. ;)

    Best regards,
    Daniel

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  • From D@21:1/5 to The Horny Goat on Sun Mar 17 18:36:15 2024
    On Sun, 17 Mar 2024, The Horny Goat wrote:

    On Fri, 15 Mar 2024 16:29:21 -0400, William Hyde
    <wthyde1953@gmail.com> wrote:

    Chess gives some consolation for real world problems. If after 110
    years there is still no consensus about Lasker's f4 in his game with
    Capablanca at St Petersburg, our failure to figure out whether
    supersymmetry is valid after 50 years doesn't look so bad.

    Chess has a rich culture, you can lose yourself for months in its
    literature and apocrypha. As with the house in Crowley's "Little, Big",
    the farther in you get the bigger it is.

    You want "real world problems" - try directing chess tournaments.
    People bring all sorts of "problems" to tournament halls and part of
    the attraction is dealing with one's own issues at the board in a
    socially acceptable way.

    Can you give some examples?

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  • From The Horny Goat@21:1/5 to wthyde1953@gmail.com on Sun Mar 17 10:23:10 2024
    On Fri, 15 Mar 2024 16:29:21 -0400, William Hyde
    <wthyde1953@gmail.com> wrote:

    Chess gives some consolation for real world problems. If after 110
    years there is still no consensus about Lasker's f4 in his game with >Capablanca at St Petersburg, our failure to figure out whether
    supersymmetry is valid after 50 years doesn't look so bad.

    Chess has a rich culture, you can lose yourself for months in its
    literature and apocrypha. As with the house in Crowley's "Little, Big",
    the farther in you get the bigger it is.

    You want "real world problems" - try directing chess tournaments.
    People bring all sorts of "problems" to tournament halls and part of
    the attraction is dealing with one's own issues at the board in a
    socially acceptable way.

    I'm now largely retired from the board as opposed to running
    tournaments and the national executive of the Chess Federation of
    Canada. While the quarterly national meeting is important obviously
    the big event for us is the Candidates which starts in Toronto April
    3rd with round 1 on the 4th.

    The event site is candidates.chess.com (am going from memory here) and
    while I'm not in Toronto the national executive as a whole has been
    doing some heavy lifting - our online Assembly meeting this week,
    followed quickly by first the 2024 Canadian championship and with a
    one day break before the Candidates (which for the first time is being
    held concurrently with the Womens' candidates event)

    This is the first Candidates event being held in Canada since
    Yusupov-Spraggett in 1989 so there's excitement building...

    Both the national championship and hte Candidates are being held in
    Toronto.

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  • From The Horny Goat@21:1/5 to wthyde1953@gmail.com on Mon Mar 18 11:59:00 2024
    On Sun, 17 Mar 2024 16:29:39 -0400, William Hyde
    <wthyde1953@gmail.com> wrote:

    I have directed tournaments, very small ones in Canada, somewhat larger
    ones in Texas.

    I was shanghaied into directing when I was 14 by none other than
    Jonathan Berry who I have known from childhood but haven't seen much
    of in recent years. It was a club championship and I did a horrible
    job assuming everyone wanted an event of the sort a young teenager
    would enjoy ... bad mistake!

    Since then I've directed 100+ events (everything from club events to a
    national championship) on my way to the International Arbiter title in
    2003 though have largely retired from directing in favor of my role as Secretary of the Chess Federation of Canada which makes me responsible
    for the administration of their quarterly "voting member" (used to be
    called Governors but the name change was mandated by the 2014 federal
    act governing federally chartered non-profits) meetings including the
    Annual General Meeting.

    Some of the CFC's procedures are a bit quirky dating back to the days
    when most federation business was done by "snail mail". Most
    federation business is done these days by e-mail with the rating
    system set up for electronic transmissions of tournament reports and
    ratings by e-mail and website. While (like everyone else in chess) we
    took a pounding in the pandemic, we've had an excellent membership
    recovery during the past 18 months.

    A good friend had been directing and playing in local events. I don't
    like playing in weekend events, so I took on the directing and he gained
    200 rating points despite being at an age where ratings decline rather
    than advance.

    I ran a few evening events which attracted strong players we generally
    never saw - I am not the only person with a dislike for these weekend
    events.

    My problem these days is that most of the events in my home town are
    on the other side of town from me averaging 45-60 minutes' drive away.
    (each way) I have tried online chess but am not a fan of online speed
    chess. What I am is a major-league chess bibliophile with 300+ chess
    books in my library. Obviously had I found the time to master all of
    them I'd be GM strength which I'm far from (borderline A/B player)

    Our weekend events when I arrived in College Station were one day
    tournaments with eight players. By the time I left we were pushing 60
    and I would have had to upgrade my TD certification for the last one but
    for the fact that a person with that qualification moved into the area.

    This change came about because I guaranteed a prize fund of $500
    personally. There was not the slightest chance I would ever have to pay
    - entry fees always allowed me to raise the prize fund. People wanted
    chess, but would not drive a hundred miles without a guaranteed prize fund.

    What I've especially noticed since the pandemic is that room rental
    costs locally have spiralled from pre-pandemic levels. There's a major 'pick-up' chess area on the 9th floor of the downtown Vancouver Public
    Library mostly involving teenagers and 20-somethings.

    I left and returned six years later. The tournament now drew about
    twelve people. Nobody was guaranteeing a prize. I did not resume my >activity.

    I could go on with stories about problem players, but with your greater >experience you could doubtless top them. And I invite you do so so.

    Obviously the main Canadian chess interest right now is the coming
    Candidates Tournament in Toronto (https://candidates2024.fide.com/)
    which will be the first World Championship cycle event held in Canada
    since Yusupov - Spraggett in 1989. The 2024 Canadian championship is
    taking place just before that also in Toronto (if you're familiar with
    Toronto chess you probably know Hart House at University of Toronto -
    when I lived in Toronto in the late 80s I definitely knew about it but
    never played there - it's certainly central enough)

    (Though being in Vancouver people around here tend to commemorate Fischer-Taimanov in 1971 and the 1975 Vancouver International which
    was Paul Kere's last tournament and last tournament victory as he died
    on his way home to Estonia and which is why the major Vancouver spring tournament is the Paul Keres Memorial. I was fortunate enough to have
    my copy of Keres' Practical Chess Endings autographed by him at that
    event - so probably one of the last 100 autographs he ever gave)

    Of particular interest with the Candidates Tournament is the fact that
    for the first time the Womens' candidates is being held concurrently
    at the same site.

    The event starts 3 April with round 1 on 4 April. I wish I could
    afford to fly to Toronto and stay there for a month but that's simply
    not on.

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  • From The Horny Goat@21:1/5 to wthyde1953@gmail.com on Tue Mar 19 11:53:30 2024
    On Mon, 18 Mar 2024 18:07:26 -0400, William Hyde
    <wthyde1953@gmail.com> wrote:

    The Great Hall at HH was the site of many weekend events. It is no
    longer used for dining, but somehow also not used for chess. It seems
    to be unused about 90% of the time, so you'd think it could be rented
    for a weekend swiss at a reasonable rate. Perhaps it is too small for
    modern events. It would hold about 100 boards, more in summer.

    That is also where I met Keres, when he gave a simul in 1975.

    Until recently I played regularly in their Tuesday night bridge
    tournaments which have grown spectacularly over the past decade due to a >dedicated organizer and director. There still is a chess club, but it >doesn't have its own room, as student space has been crowded out by >administration.

    Perhaps, but Hart House is still active enough chess-wise to host the
    Canadian Championship which will be held REAL soon just before the
    Candidates.

    https://www.harthouseregistration.ca/Program/GetProgramDetails?courseId=78bb9b75-63a4-491d-933c-670d5c16efc0&semesterId=0d2b7698-f912-4876-b962-0d1423747ea5

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  • From The Horny Goat@21:1/5 to wthyde1953@gmail.com on Sat Mar 23 00:58:41 2024
    On Tue, 19 Mar 2024 16:13:50 -0400, William Hyde
    <wthyde1953@gmail.com> wrote:

    https://www.harthouseregistration.ca/Program/GetProgramDetails?courseId=78bb9b75-63a4-491d-933c-670d5c16efc0&semesterId=0d2b7698-f912-4876-b962-0d1423747ea5

    Good news.

    So the great hall is good for 110 boards, more or less as estimated,
    while the debates room is good for 50 (the Toronto closed+reserves at 24 >boards didn't fill half the room) and the music room for 50 more.


    I can drop by on the appropriate day and spectate both chess and bridge.

    William Hyde

    Glad you're pleased - I'm in Vancouver so it's a bit more
    difficult....

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  • From D@21:1/5 to William Hyde on Sat Mar 23 22:21:15 2024
    On Sat, 23 Mar 2024, William Hyde wrote:

    The Horny Goat wrote:
    On Tue, 19 Mar 2024 16:13:50 -0400, William Hyde
    <wthyde1953@gmail.com> wrote:

    https://www.harthouseregistration.ca/Program/GetProgramDetails?courseId=78bb9b75-63a4-491d-933c-670d5c16efc0&semesterId=0d2b7698-f912-4876-b962-0d1423747ea5

    Good news.

    So the great hall is good for 110 boards, more or less as estimated,
    while the debates room is good for 50 (the Toronto closed+reserves at 24 >>> boards didn't fill half the room) and the music room for 50 more.


    I can drop by on the appropriate day and spectate both chess and bridge. >>>
    William Hyde

    Glad you're pleased - I'm in Vancouver so it's a bit more
    difficult....

    That's always our problem in Canada. Nine out of ten times the event you want to see or play in is over a thousand kilometers away.

    I've never actually been able to play in the Canadian Open when it
    has been held in Toronto. But I had the time and money to play in
    Ottawa and Quebec city (and almost, almost, Vancouver, but alas not
    quite).

    Even at shorter distances transport can be a problem for chess players.

    One year Billy Oxygen shared first place at a tournament in Bellville, Ont. He had traveled by taxi from his home in Kitchener, for $160.
    Which was probably more than his prize.

    The next year he did not show up at the event. Word was he didn't
    have the taxi fare. IIRC there is no bus service between the two
    towns.

    Dave Ross, an Ottawa master, saved money by hitchhiking to a Detroit tournament. He showed up for round one not having slept at all,
    but somehow won the event anyway.

    William Hyde

    Speaking of the financial side of chess... has there been an increase in
    prizes and sponsoring?

    It seems to me that chess has become more popular due to Maguns Carlsen
    (at least in scandinavia) and this chess series Queens gambit.

    Has this been translated into more sponsoring?

    Best regards,
    Daniel

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  • From The Horny Goat@21:1/5 to wthyde1953@gmail.com on Sun Mar 24 00:02:54 2024
    On Sat, 23 Mar 2024 14:41:28 -0400, William Hyde
    <wthyde1953@gmail.com> wrote:

    That's always our problem in Canada. Nine out of ten times the event
    you want to see or play in is over a thousand kilometers away.

    I've never actually been able to play in the Canadian Open when it
    has been held in Toronto. But I had the time and money to play in
    Ottawa and Quebec city (and almost, almost, Vancouver, but alas not
    quite).

    I haven't played in a Canadian Open since 1971 when in round one I was
    clearly winning against a player rating 150 above me. I snatched an h
    pawn with my bishop which was immediately trapped, put my head in my
    hands and looked up. (Our game was on the main aisle to the top
    boards)

    I looked up and saw none other than Boris Spasky watching my board and
    I saw him shake his head sadly and turn away. 50 years later I still
    wonder if he remembered that sad looking kid in Vancouver when Fischer
    snatched the h-pawn in round one of his match with Spassky in
    Reykjavik.He's now 87 and very much still alive but I will always
    remember that day.

    (I also remember being in the skittles room where a distinguished
    older man chastised us for making too much noise and that our noise
    was making it back to the main tournament hall. Afterwards one of the
    kids said "OMG was that who I think it was?" "Uh huh - THAT was Max
    Euwe" who was then FIDE president. (The FIDE Congress was not far away
    from the hall where the Canadian Open was being played and he knew
    Spassky was there so dropped in to take a look. This was about 3
    months after Fischer-Taimanov which was played elsewhere on the same
    campus and which my parents wouldn't let me make a 90 minute bus trip
    to the university to see the GMs play. This was of course his first
    match to the world championship which went through Taimanov, Larsen,
    Petrosian and finally Spassky in Reykjavik the following year)

    So that's how I came to meet two world champins in the same event -
    one was playing the other not.

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  • From The Horny Goat@21:1/5 to wthyde1953@gmail.com on Sun Mar 24 00:11:59 2024
    On Sat, 23 Mar 2024 14:41:28 -0400, William Hyde
    <wthyde1953@gmail.com> wrote:

    One year Billy Oxygen shared first place at a tournament in Bellville,
    Ont. He had traveled by taxi from his home in Kitchener, for $160.
    Which was probably more than his prize.

    That's not all that short a distance - Kitchener is about 45 minutes
    to an hour W of Toronto while Belville is the town on the eastern end
    of Lake Ontario - typically about a 2-3 hour drive away. (My late aunt
    lived there)

    [I remember my father telling me that when I went to McMaster
    (Hamilton ON) he told my grandmother that Hamilton was on the W end of
    Lake Ontario and she remembered her daughter lived in Belville which
    she knew to be "at the end of Lake Ontario" and said "Oh good - Lyle
    will be able to see his aunt often!" My father knew the geography and
    had to gently tell her "Actually Mom Hamilton and Belleville are at
    opposite ends of Lake Ontario" (slightly under 200 miles apart) and
    told her how long Lake Ontario is though to be fair 3 years later I
    met my future wife at McMaster and married her 8 months after
    graduation and my aunt and her husband _did_ come to our wedding.]

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  • From The Horny Goat@21:1/5 to wthyde1953@gmail.com on Sun Mar 24 00:12:53 2024
    On Sat, 23 Mar 2024 14:41:28 -0400, William Hyde
    <wthyde1953@gmail.com> wrote:

    Dave Ross, an Ottawa master, saved money by hitchhiking to a Detroit >tournament. He showed up for round one not having slept at all,
    but somehow won the event anyway.

    OK one more master we've both met...

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  • From The Horny Goat@21:1/5 to wthyde1953@gmail.com on Tue Mar 26 15:18:39 2024
    On Sun, 24 Mar 2024 15:11:34 -0400, William Hyde
    <wthyde1953@gmail.com> wrote:

    My guess would be that he recalled it very well.

    In September of that year Spassky played at the CNE open in Toronto.
    Had I won my first four games I might have been paired with him, but
    I fell just three games short of that target.

    Most unusually for the time, the event featured six GMs, with
    Benko and Byrne winning at 6-0. Canadian players scored some
    upsets, with Day drawing with Spassky, Lipnowski beating Browne,
    and Delva beating Bisguier.

    Toronto was cursed for Browne. In my second weekend Swiss Browne
    finished 3.5/6. As he insisted he was winning the adjourned
    round 5 position he was paired up for the last round. But he was
    meeting Ivan Theodorovic who was 5-0. What he didn't know was
    that Theodorovic always won his last round game if he went 5-0.
    A mere GM couldn't break that streak.

    I only attended one round of the 76 open in Toronto, just in time to see >Browne storm off after losing to Amos (the game is here: >https://kevinspraggettonchess.wordpress.com/2011/08/11/the-1976-canadian-open-in-toronto/).

    Great stories - and while I didn't know Delva I knew the rest of the
    Canadian players you name. Which is not surprising for an
    international arbiter (guilty) who has lived in Vancouver, southern
    Ontario and Winnipeg.

    (I was the one primarily responsible for getting Abe Yanofsky off the international arbiter list two years after his death - it seems
    everybody at FIDE knew he was a GM but had forgotten the other title.

    I also had the dubious "honor" of being one of two BC international
    arbiters who FIDE got our gender wrong. Hint: I'm not female and the
    late Lynn Stringer wasn't male! That got fixed in near record time
    with an e-mail to Canada's FIDE rep...)

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