• <<< HYPEREXTENDED POST-COMPUSERVE OPEN RESTRICTED LIST ANNOUNCEMENT >>>

    From Pork Horker@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jan 6 10:50:01 2019
    <<<< The council has spoken, the final ruling from our overlord LDM is as follows >>>>

    <---------> Restrictions <--------->

    None. My money was on Rector / Flash being miserable. I think people still don't like getting Hymn'ed but there were no dominating Hymn decks.

    <---------> Unrestrictions <--------->

    *Grim Monolith* The lack of emergant prison decks is concerning to a group who loves to inflict misery and suffering on opponents. We debated either Ancient Tomb or the Monolith but decided Monolith
    is the less flexible worse of the two. It does combo with Voltaic Key but when scanning the amount of things that cost 3 (or 4 in the case of the nut draw, Sol Land -> Grim -> Key -> Untap -> 4 mana)
    the scariest thing we came up with is Metalworker. We decided we want to see a playable Metalworker deck. Monolith could also support casting Armageddon quickly. The downside is it does support
    casting Rector quickly. Pick up your Null Rods now the age of iron has begun!

    THE ROAD TO THE ________________________ BEGINS NOW! (the Compuserve champion has yet to determine a theme)


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    To review the format ...

    Hyper Extended is a constructed format which includes the following
    sets

    Fallen Empires -> Scourge. Including the Black Bordered Portal sets
    One and Second Age.

    *No white bordered cards are allowed*. No new frame or time shifted
    trash is allowed. You must use the card from the set and can't use
    reprints even going backwards. For example Ice Age contains Swords to Plowshares, you can't use a Revised one, or a crappy 4th one. You
    can't even use a gorgeous Beta one. Wrath of God is found only in
    Portal, you must use that one. If a card is in multiple legal sets you
    may use any, or mix and match to trigger your opponents.

    You may use gold bordered cards from the championship decks *AS LONG AS THEY ARE OTHERWISE LEGAL*. For example you can use Survival of the Fittest but can't use Birds of Paradise.

    All ante cards are banned.

    Mana burn is on like donkey kong. Wishes may grab cards from the Exile zone. Paris and Scry are also on.

    Hyper Extended features a restricted list:

    Ancient Tomb
    Brainstorm
    Burning Wish
    Demonic Consultation
    Dream Halls
    Earthcraft
    Enlightened Tutor
    Frantic Search
    Goblin Recruiter
    Hermit Druid
    Memory Jar
    Mind’s Desire
    Mystical Tutor
    Necropotence
    Tinker
    Tolarian Academy
    Vampiric Tutor
    Windfall
    Yawgmoth's Bargain
    Yawgmoth's Will

    OBSERVE LIST:

    <<<<==Unrestrict==>>>>

    With a restricted list in place, it can be argued that *Tinker* has
    few targets that can be considered “broken.” A powerful card for sure
    but possibly a candidate for unrestriction. A world without Memory Jar
    would almost certainly see Tinker unrestricted.

    *Goblin Recruiter* has proven to be fairly benign. If anything Lackey
    leads to far broken game starts than recruiter. It's synergy with Food
    Chain was also over stated. Adding Food Chain to an otherwise
    streamlined Goblin deck gives your opponent something to take with
    Duress, adds a second color and over all just waters the deck down.

    *Ancient Tomb* remains. If we face metalworker utter domination then clearly Ancient Tomb must remain beneath the remains.

    CITIES IN RUINS
    BODIES PACKED ON MINEFIELDS
    NEUROTIC GAME OF LIFE AND DEATH
    NOW I CAN FEEL THE END
    PREMONITION ABOUT MY FINAL HOUR
    A SAD IMAGE OF EVERYTHING
    EVERYTHING'S SO REAL
    WHO HAS WON?
    WHO HAS DIED?
    BENEATH THE REMAINS

    *Hermit Druid* I'm not convinced this is much better than Flash / Rector. It gets disrupted by Zwang, by grave hate, by creature kill and by bad luck. But it is if everything falls perfectly a 1 card
    combo. The key difference in hyper is you still need a reanimation spell in hand or must go through a complex Krosan Reclamation to rebuild a small deck only to get your ghoul plowed or to have me
    Predict the fucking reanimation spell off your deck.

    <<<<==Restrict==>>>>

    *Flash* or *Academy Rector* is the basis of a degenerate, and frankly, boring turn one
    combo that we completely forgot about. Rector / Bargain (Form). Our resident Flash Rectum player has absurdly shitty luck which may have artifically deflated this archtypes performance.

    *Lion’s Eye Diamond* has a converted mana cost of 0 and makes three
    mana of any one color. It's pretty fucked with Yawgmoth's Will.

    *Oath of Druids* is miserable but given the power level of the fatties
    might not be that broken. There's also no orchard which gives opposing
    decks a chance to interact a little bit.

    *Time Spiral* when it resolves the game mostly ends. Just restricting
    High Tide would also kill the deck. It's hard to justify restricting a
    6 mana sorcery that exiles itself but it makes the turn 4 high tide
    kill pretty consistant.

    ««==Fallen Empires==»»

    One thing we're hoping to avoid is just having the same old 93/94 decks and play patterns in Hyper. This is what emerges when you allow shit like 4th edition. Land Tax / Sylvan, every 1 or 2 color
    aggro deck automatically has 4 Factories. Every red deck has Bolt and you have to clean up the mistakes like Balance, Strip Mine, Mind Twist and Channel in your restricted or banned list.

    In keeping with this idea we've considered just nuking Fallen Empires from orbit. It is an unattached set that you can argue doesn't fit with the semi modern set design that started with Ice Age.

    There are only 4-5 playable cards in the set but they make decks or play patterns. High Tide, Hymn to Tourcock and to a lesser extent the tribal and aggro creatures. Fallen Empires lives another day
    LONG LIVE DERELOR!
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  • From alphastryk@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jan 7 13:01:10 2019
    Excited for wishes working as intended.

    I tend to suspect that Flash/Rector is much more broken than at least a few cards which are currently restricted.
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