Update to the Hyper Extended Restricted List

All ante cards are banned.

Hyper Extended features a restricted list:

Burning Wish
Demonic Consultation
Dream Halls
Earthcraft
Enlightened Tutor
Frantic Search
Goblin Recruiter
Grim Monolith
Gush
Hermit Druid
Memory Jar
Mind’s Desire
Mystical Tutor
Necropotence
Personal Tutor
Tinker
Tolarian Academy
Vampiric Tutor
Windfall
Yawgmoth's Bargain
Yawgmoth's Will

OBSERVE LIST:

Unrestrict

With a restricted list in place, it can be argued that Tinker has few
targets that can be considered “broken.” A powerful card for sure but
possibly a candidate for unrestriction.

Restrict

Flash is the basis of a degenerate, and frankly, boring turn one combo
that I completely forgot about. I don’t think anyone will have a good
time with four copies of this spell hanging around, but we can try it
as a playset first.

Lion’s Eye Diamond has a converted mana cost of 0 and makes three mana
of any one color. It's pretty fucked with Yawgmoth's Will.

Oath of Druids is miserable but given the power level of the fatties
might not be that broken.

Hymn to Tourcock can lead to miserable starts and tends to homogenize
black cards around its existance. Duress and Hymn together can make
for starts that are almost un salvagable.

Also the following cards were banned at various points during
Extended’s existence and thus are worthy of observation in
Hyperextended.

Brainstorm
Dark Ritual
Entomb
Goblin Lackey
Lotus Petal
Metalworker
Mind Over Matter
Replenish
Survival of the Fittest
Time Spiral
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Update to the Hyper Extended Restricted List

All ante cards are banned.

Hyper Extended features a restricted list:

Burning Wish
Demonic Consultation
Dream Halls
Earthcraft
Enlightened Tutor
Frantic Search
Goblin Recruiter
Grim Monolith
Gush
Hermit Druid
Memory Jar
Mind’s Desire
Mystical Tutor
Necropotence
Personal Tutor
Tinker
Tolarian Academy
Vampiric Tutor
Windfall
Yawgmoth's Bargain
Yawgmoth's Will

OBSERVE LIST:

Unrestrict

With a restricted list in place, it can be argued that Tinker has few
targets that can be considered “broken.” A powerful card for sure but
possibly a candidate for unrestriction.

Restrict

Lion’s Eye Diamond has a converted mana cost of 0 and makes three mana
of any one color. It's pretty fucked with Yawgmoth's Will.

Oath of Druids is miserable but given the power level of the fatties
might not be that broken.

Hymn to Tourcock can lead to miserable starts and tends to homogenize
black cards around its existance. Duress and Hymn together can make
for starts that are almost un salvagable.

Also the following cards were banned at various points during
Extended’s existence and thus are worthy of observation in
Hyperextended.

Brainstorm
Dark Ritual
Entomb
Goblin Lackey
Lotus Petal
Metalworker
Mind Over Matter
Replenish
Survival of the Fittest
Time Spiral

Flash has been removed from the observe list because it's slower and
worse than the degenerate shit you can do with LED and Yawgmoth's
Will.
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Leviathan’s Mom is right, even though that guy is clearly a dude.

The raddest cards are obviously the duress effects, so this will let us cast out a Propaganda or Bridge from Below before it gets snatched away.
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Mana vault might be too good as a four of though, can we restrict to 3 copies? A turn one aladdin’s ring with 4 Vaults would be unbeatable. Almost as powerful as counterspell and vitalizing wind and such.
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I'm just not sure why Mana Vault isn't a restricted card. I'd even test it out as a 4x just to make sure it wasn't simply powered appropriately. Imo, it's on the same power level as Hypnox and Draco, and those beasts aren't even restricted.

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You guys are so dumb. While I totally 1000% agree we need to have Vault in the mix for pure awesomenisocity, it NEEDS to be restricted to ONE. No WAY storm isn’t unbeatable with 4 of THOSE things running around. If you don’t know what storm is yet,
it uses Aether Storm to stop creatures from coming into play, and if this came down before you can cast your bigger threats, you’re TOAST. It also uses Energy Storm to PREVENT burn from winning, so you’re basically LOCKED down. And Meteor Storm
knocks OUT any guys you MIGHT have snuck into play. The deck is rubber and you’re the glue.
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@ Lim Dul: Yeah, you right. Crypt. Not Vault. Same thing though, right? They both let you run tinker to go get Xanthic Statue. I guess Vault is better because you can cast Temporal Manipulation on turn two. So yeah, better stick with Crypt.

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@ KillA INsTict (Killer Instinct?): You’re face is glue. Psych, I’m just trippin’.

But I think you guys are confusing Mana Vault with mana Crypt. Vault is in a core set, so just isn’t playable, while CRYPT is actually tubular and needs to be represented. Are we not talking about the same format or something?
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I’m not sure why Mana Crypt isn’t restricted. It’s a pretty powerful card to have 4. That’s unprecedented. This format is busted otherwise.
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I’m not sure why Mana Crypt isn’t restricted. It’s a pretty powerful card to have 4. That’s unprecedented. This format is busted otherwise.
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Leviathan’s Mom is right, even though that guy is clearly a dude.

The raddest cards are obviously the duress effects, so this will let us cast out a Propaganda or Bridge from Below before it gets snatched away. But having 4 is over the edge. Let’s crank it back a little. And yes Don, it seems to be legal currently as
a four-of.
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Wow, okay. That’s great that it’s allowed. It’s def too good as a four of though, can we restrict to 2-3 copies? A turn one aladdin’s ring with 4 crypts would be unbeatable. Almost as powerful as counterspell and vitalizing wind and such.
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You guys are so dumb. While I totally 1000% agree we need to have Crypt in the mix for pure awesomenisocity, it NEEDS to be restricted to ONE. No WAY storm isn’t unbeatable with 4 of THOSE things running around. If you don’t know what storm is yet,
it uses Aether Storm to stop creatures from coming into play, and if this came down before you can cast your bigger threats, you’re TOAST. It also uses Energy Storm to PREVENT burn from winning, so you’re basically LOCKED down. And Meteor Storm
knocks OUT any guys you MIGHT have snuck into play. The deck is rubber and you’re the glue.
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Crypt isn’t allowed at all I don’t think?
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@ KillA INsTictt: You’re face is glue. Psych, I’m just trippin’.

Are we not talking about the same format or something? I heard only expansion sets were allowed. Not true?
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blurp derp
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blurp derp
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Mana Crypt confirmed. I saw people playing it last night at Steak and Ale. Guy is a true wizard and was casting turn one Call of the Herd with Mana Crypt and forest, and flashing it back with Lion's Eye Diamond. So busted.
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Guys, we need to stop the name calling. I've deleted a number of remarks, and you will be banned if you can't keep it civil. It's a casual format, nothing to get upset about. Just play whatever you want and don't be dicks.

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Blurry derp
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Blurry derp
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Hey guys. New to the format. Where can I get deck lists? Looking for something with Scrublands. I really just like playing Scrubland whenever I get the chance. It creates so much Chaos.
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Did anybody try out Survival yet? I only have two copies, and the card is like 5 bucks now. Can’t be that good.

I tried some Hunting Grounds and Sneak Attack in a WRG build. It was ~okay~. After sideboard it got better with Oath if they were playing with creatures. Oath is def a sideboard card, but you still have to build around it unless you can side out the tiny
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