• Which hit? 2

    From Timothy Chow@21:1/5 to All on Thu Aug 19 09:50:16 2021
    XGID=baDCB-----AA-a-b--AcbbbAB-:1:1:1:41:0:0:0:0:10

    X:Player 1 O:Player 2
    Score is X:0 O:0. Unlimited Game
    +13-14-15-16-17-18------19-20-21-22-23-24-+
    | O O X | | O O O O X X |
    | O | | O O O O X |
    | | | O |
    | | | |
    | | | |
    | |BAR| |
    | | O | |
    | | O | X |
    | | | X X | +---+
    | | | X X X | | 2 |
    | X X | | X X X O | +---+
    +12-11-10--9--8--7-------6--5--4--3--2--1-+
    Pip count X: 135 O: 148 X-O: 0-0
    Cube: 2, X own cube
    X to play 41

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    Tim Chow

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  • From Timothy Chow@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 27 09:38:23 2021
    XGID=baDCB-----AA-a-b--AcbbbAB-:1:1:1:41:0:0:0:0:10

    X:Player 1 O:Player 2
    Score is X:0 O:0. Unlimited Game
    +13-14-15-16-17-18------19-20-21-22-23-24-+
    | O O X | | O O O O X X |
    | O | | O O O O X |
    | | | O |
    | | | |
    | | | |
    | |BAR| |
    | | O | |
    | | O | X |
    | | | X X | +---+
    | | | X X X | | 2 |
    | X X | | X X X O | +---+
    +12-11-10--9--8--7-------6--5--4--3--2--1-+
    Pip count X: 135 O: 148 X-O: 0-0
    Cube: 2, X own cube
    X to play 41

    Giving O a direct shot by hitting 2/1* might seem counterintuitive
    because O has a strong board. The thing is that even though X
    temporarily has the initiative, he is still losing. When you're
    losing, you need to be on the lookout for taking calculated risks
    that have a strong upside if they work. Here, X would like to
    put his three semi-dead checkers to work for him if he can. If
    he gets hit back---well, he won't be happy, but O will probably
    still have two on the bar, and X is anchored, so he can probably
    survive.

    In the variant, I moved one of X's spares from his 2pt out to his
    11pt. Then the rollout indicates a close call, although XG still
    favors 18/14 2/1*.

    1. Rollout¹ 18/14 2/1* eq:-0.181
    Player: 38.78% (G:22.38% B:1.30%)
    Opponent: 61.22% (G:29.84% B:4.73%)
    Confidence: ±0.013 (-0.194..-0.167) - [100.0%]

    2. Rollout¹ 11/7 2/1* eq:-0.277 (-0.096)
    Player: 36.42% (G:19.97% B:1.03%)
    Opponent: 63.58% (G:30.85% B:4.39%)
    Confidence: ±0.014 (-0.291..-0.263) - [0.0%]

    3. Rollout¹ 18/13* eq:-0.349 (-0.168)
    Player: 33.78% (G:17.15% B:1.16%)
    Opponent: 66.22% (G:29.74% B:3.04%)
    Confidence: ±0.014 (-0.363..-0.335) - [0.0%]

    ¹ 1296 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
    Dice Seed: 271828
    Moves: 3-ply, cube decisions: XG Roller

    eXtreme Gammon Version: 2.19.207.pre-release

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    Variant
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    XGID=baCCB-----AB-a-b--AcbbbAB-:1:1:1:41:0:0:0:0:10

    X:Player 1 O:Player 2
    Score is X:0 O:0. Unlimited Game
    +13-14-15-16-17-18------19-20-21-22-23-24-+
    | O O X | | O O O O X X |
    | O | | O O O O X |
    | | | O |
    | | | |
    | | | |
    | |BAR| |
    | | O | |
    | | O | |
    | | | X X | +---+
    | X | | X X X | | 2 |
    | X X | | X X X O | +---+
    +12-11-10--9--8--7-------6--5--4--3--2--1-+
    Pip count X: 144 O: 148 X-O: 0-0
    Cube: 2, X own cube
    X to play 41

    1. Rollout¹ 18/14 2/1* eq:-0.057
    Player: 42.42% (G:23.58% B:2.10%)
    Opponent: 57.58% (G:28.34% B:4.45%)
    Confidence: ±0.007 (-0.065..-0.050) - [100.0%]

    2. Rollout¹ 18/13* eq:-0.079 (-0.022)
    Player: 41.28% (G:21.28% B:2.16%)
    Opponent: 58.72% (G:26.21% B:2.99%)
    Confidence: ±0.008 (-0.087..-0.071) - [0.0%]

    3. Rollout¹ 11/7 2/1* eq:-0.083 (-0.026)
    Player: 42.33% (G:23.89% B:2.04%)
    Opponent: 57.67% (G:29.35% B:5.81%)
    Confidence: ±0.007 (-0.090..-0.076) - [0.0%]

    ¹ 5184 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
    Dice Seed: 271828
    Moves: 3-ply, cube decisions: XG Roller

    eXtreme Gammon Version: 2.19.207.pre-release

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    Tim Chow

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  • From Timothy Chow@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 10 22:43:15 2022
    XGID=-aaBBbC-A--BbC-a-c-c-Ab-A-:0:0:1:64:0:0:0:0:10

    X:Player 1 O:Player 2
    Score is X:0 O:0. Unlimited Game
    +13-14-15-16-17-18------19-20-21-22-23-24-+
    | X O O | | O X O X |
    | X O | | O O |
    | X O | | O |
    | | | |
    | | | |
    | |BAR| |
    | | | |
    | | | |
    | | | X |
    | O X | | X O X X |
    | O X X | | X O X X O O |
    +12-11-10--9--8--7-------6--5--4--3--2--1-+
    Pip count X: 146 O: 171 X-O: 0-0
    Cube: 1
    X to play 64

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  • From Timothy Chow@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 13 09:35:10 2022
    XGID=-aaBBbC-A--BbC-a-c-c-Ab-A-:0:0:1:64:0:0:0:0:10

    X:Player 1 O:Player 2
    Score is X:0 O:0. Unlimited Game
    +13-14-15-16-17-18------19-20-21-22-23-24-+
    | X O O | | O X O X |
    | X O | | O O |
    | X O | | O |
    | | | |
    | | | |
    | |BAR| |
    | | | |
    | | | |
    | | | X |
    | O X | | X O X X |
    | O X X | | X O X X O O |
    +12-11-10--9--8--7-------6--5--4--3--2--1-+
    Pip count X: 146 O: 171 X-O: 0-0
    Cube: 1
    X to play 64

    In most positions, hitting a blot in the opponent's outfield is better
    than PoH on the 2pt, but here, O's game gets a lot better if she can
    anchor on X's 2pt. Losing more pips is less of a concern.

    1. Rollout¹ 8/2* 6/2 eq:+0.767
    Player: 64.90% (G:30.56% B:2.09%)
    Opponent: 35.10% (G:7.55% B:0.30%)
    Confidence: ±0.011 (+0.756..+0.779) - [100.0%]

    2. Rollout¹ 21/15* 15/11 eq:+0.622 (-0.145)
    Player: 61.60% (G:25.36% B:1.22%)
    Opponent: 38.40% (G:8.09% B:0.33%)
    Confidence: ±0.018 (+0.604..+0.640) - [0.0%]

    3. Rollout¹ 21/15* 6/2* eq:+0.616 (-0.151)
    Player: 61.73% (G:27.03% B:1.74%)
    Opponent: 38.27% (G:9.04% B:0.51%)
    Confidence: ±0.016 (+0.601..+0.632) - [0.0%]

    ¹ 1296 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
    Dice Seed: 271828
    Moves: 3-ply, cube decisions: XG Roller

    eXtreme Gammon Version: 2.19.207.pre-release

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    Tim Chow

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  • From Timothy Chow@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 26 08:47:41 2022
    XGID=-CaCCBC-aa-------b-ccbb--A:1:-1:1:21:0:0:0:0:10

    X:Player 1 O:Player 2
    Score is X:0 O:0. Unlimited Game
    +13-14-15-16-17-18------19-20-21-22-23-24-+
    | O | | O O O O | +---+
    | O | | O O O O | | 2 |
    | | | O O | +---+
    | | | |
    | | X | |
    | |BAR| |
    | | | |
    | | | |
    | | | X X X X |
    | | | X X X X X |
    | O O | | X X X X O X |
    +12-11-10--9--8--7-------6--5--4--3--2--1-+
    Pip count X: 77 O: 119 X-O: 0-0
    Cube: 2, O own cube
    X to play 21

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  • From ah...Clem@21:1/5 to Timothy Chow on Tue Jul 26 13:08:19 2022
    On 7/26/2022 8:47 AM, Timothy Chow wrote:
    XGID=-CaCCBC-aa-------b-ccbb--A:1:-1:1:21:0:0:0:0:10

    X:Player 1   O:Player 2
    Score is X:0 O:0. Unlimited Game  +13-14-15-16-17-18------19-20-21-22-23-24-+
     |             O    |   | O  O  O  O       | +---+  |             O    |   | O  O  O  O       | | 2 |  |                  |   | O  O             | +---+
     |                  |   |                  |
     |                  | X |                  |
     |                  |BAR|                  |
     |                  |   |                  |
     |                  |   |                  |
     |                  |   | X     X  X     X |  |                  |   | X  X  X  X     X |  |          O  O    |   | X  X  X  X  O  X |  +12-11-10--9--8--7-------6--5--4--3--2--1-+
    Pip count  X: 77  O: 119 X-O: 0-0
    Cube: 2, O own cube
    X to play 21

    Entering on the ace gives two more rolls to escape, so that favors
    bar/24 4/2*. It leaves 1 and 4 to cover while the other hitting play
    leaves 2 and 4 to cover. I'm not seeing a good reason to favor one
    over the other except for the more escaping numbers. Maybe since 5s
    crunch and sixes don't favors entering on the deuce.

    I'll play bar/24 4/2*

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  • From Timothy Chow@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jul 28 08:45:36 2022
    XGID=-CaCCBC-aa-------b-ccbb--A:1:-1:1:21:0:0:0:0:10

    X:Player 1 O:Player 2
    Score is X:0 O:0. Unlimited Game
    +13-14-15-16-17-18------19-20-21-22-23-24-+
    | O | | O O O O | +---+
    | O | | O O O O | | 2 |
    | | | O O | +---+
    | | | |
    | | X | |
    | |BAR| |
    | | | |
    | | | |
    | | | X X X X |
    | | | X X X X X |
    | O O | | X X X X O X |
    +12-11-10--9--8--7-------6--5--4--3--2--1-+
    Pip count X: 77 O: 119 X-O: 0-0
    Cube: 2, O own cube
    X to play 21

    I scratched my head over this one for a while, because my OTB
    reasoning was the same as ah_clem's: From the 24pt, my back
    checker can escape with any 6 as well as 51, whereas from the
    23pt, I have to roll a 5 to escape, so shouldn't I stay back
    and give myself more escaping numbers?

    I believe that the correct reasoning is that if I stay back
    on the 24pt, then my 5's are bad because then I have to crunch my
    board. On the 23pt, my 5's are good and my 6's are killed
    (except for 65 of course). If I have a good 5 to play (see
    variant below) then the story changes.

    1. Rollout¹ Bar/23 3/2* eq:+0.026
    Player: 51.31% (G:28.16% B:0.37%)
    Opponent: 48.69% (G:9.59% B:0.33%)
    Confidence: ±0.007 (+0.019..+0.033) - [100.0%]

    2. Rollout¹ Bar/24 4/2* eq:-0.106 (-0.132)
    Player: 47.52% (G:24.66% B:0.28%)
    Opponent: 52.48% (G:11.36% B:0.37%)
    Confidence: ±0.008 (-0.114..-0.098) - [0.0%]

    ¹ 1296 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
    Dice Seed: 271828
    Moves: 3-ply, cube decisions: XG Roller

    eXtreme Gammon Version: 2.19.207.pre-release

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    XGID=-CaCCBBAaa-------b-ccbb--A:1:-1:1:21:0:0:0:0:10

    X:Player 1 O:Player 2
    Score is X:0 O:0. Unlimited Game
    +13-14-15-16-17-18------19-20-21-22-23-24-+
    | O | | O O O O | +---+
    | O | | O O O O | | 2 |
    | | | O O | +---+
    | | | |
    | | X | |
    | |BAR| |
    | | | |
    | | | |
    | | | X X X |
    | | | X X X X X |
    | O O X | | X X X X O X |
    +12-11-10--9--8--7-------6--5--4--3--2--1-+
    Pip count X: 78 O: 119 X-O: 0-0
    Cube: 2, O own cube
    X to play 21

    1. Rollout¹ Bar/24 4/2* eq:-0.048
    Player: 49.16% (G:26.16% B:0.28%)
    Opponent: 50.84% (G:13.55% B:0.74%)
    Confidence: ±0.011 (-0.059..-0.037) - [100.0%]

    2. Rollout¹ Bar/23 3/2* eq:-0.119 (-0.071)
    Player: 47.15% (G:25.34% B:0.35%)
    Opponent: 52.85% (G:15.07% B:0.80%)
    Confidence: ±0.009 (-0.128..-0.111) - [0.0%]

    ¹ 1296 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
    Dice Seed: 271828
    Moves: 3-ply, cube decisions: XG Roller

    eXtreme Gammon Version: 2.19.207.pre-release

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