• Priming battle 2

    From Timothy Chow@21:1/5 to All on Sat Oct 14 11:07:10 2023
    XGID=--aBBBB-B-A--A---b-ccbbCb-:1:1:1:21:0:0:0:0:10

    Score is X:0 O:0. Unlimited Game
    +13-14-15-16-17-18------19-20-21-22-23-24-+
    | X O | | O O O O X O |
    | O | | O O O O X O |
    | | | O O X |
    | | | |
    | | | |
    | |BAR| |
    | | | |
    | | | |
    | | | | +---+
    | X | | X X X X | | 2 |
    | X X | | X X X X O | +---+
    +12-11-10--9--8--7-------6--5--4--3--2--1-+
    Pip count X: 144 O: 88 X-O: 0-0
    Cube: 2, X own cube
    X to play 21

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    Tim Chow

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  • From ah...Clem@21:1/5 to Timothy Chow on Sat Oct 14 16:54:44 2023
    On 10/14/2023 11:07 AM, Timothy Chow wrote:
    XGID=--aBBBB-B-A--A---b-ccbbCb-:1:1:1:21:0:0:0:0:10

    Score is X:0 O:0. Unlimited Game  +13-14-15-16-17-18------19-20-21-22-23-24-+
     | X           O    |   | O  O  O  O  X  O |  |             O    |   | O  O  O  O  X  O |  |                  |   | O  O        X    |  |                  |   |                  |
     |                  |   |                  |
     |                  |BAR|                  |
     |                  |   |                  |
     |                  |   |                  |
     |                  |   |                  | +---+
     |             X    |   | X  X  X  X       | | 2 |  |       X     X    |   | X  X  X  X  O    | +---+  +12-11-10--9--8--7-------6--5--4--3--2--1-+
    Pip count  X: 144  O: 88 X-O: 0-0
    Cube: 2, X own cube
    X to play 21

    If O rolls a five it's basically game over, so slot the bar point and
    hope to roll one of the 17 rolls that cover before she rolls one of the
    11 rolls that hit. 10/7.

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  • From Timothy Chow@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 16 08:23:23 2023
    XGID=--aBBBB-B-A--A---b-ccbbCb-:1:1:1:21:0:0:0:0:10

    Score is X:0 O:0. Unlimited Game
    +13-14-15-16-17-18------19-20-21-22-23-24-+
    | X O | | O O O O X O |
    | O | | O O O O X O |
    | | | O O X |
    | | | |
    | | | |
    | |BAR| |
    | | | |
    | | | |
    | | | | +---+
    | X | | X X X X | | 2 |
    | X X | | X X X X O | +---+
    +12-11-10--9--8--7-------6--5--4--3--2--1-+
    Pip count X: 144 O: 88 X-O: 0-0
    Cube: 2, X own cube
    X to play 21

    This is a tough one IMO. XG plays 10/7 at DMP, but 10/7 loses way more
    gammons than any of the safe alternatives. The rollout says that the
    tradeoff isn't worth it. But see the variant below.

    1. Rollout¹ 13/12 10/8 eq:+0.053
    Player: 46.94% (G:7.02% B:0.23%)
    Opponent: 53.06% (G:15.69% B:0.49%)
    Confidence: ±0.008 (+0.045..+0.061) - [99.9%]

    2. Rollout¹ 13/10 eq:+0.033 (-0.020)
    Player: 46.48% (G:7.03% B:0.22%)
    Opponent: 53.52% (G:16.01% B:0.48%)
    Confidence: ±0.009 (+0.024..+0.042) - [0.1%]

    3. Rollout¹ 13/11 10/9 eq:-0.001 (-0.054)
    Player: 46.53% (G:7.02% B:0.25%)
    Opponent: 53.47% (G:19.96% B:0.78%)
    Confidence: ±0.008 (-0.009..+0.008) - [0.0%]

    4. Rollout¹ 10/7 eq:-0.057 (-0.110)
    Player: 47.90% (G:7.46% B:0.26%)
    Opponent: 52.10% (G:28.38% B:1.41%)
    Confidence: ±0.008 (-0.065..-0.049) - [0.0%]

    ¹ 1296 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
    Dice Seed: 271828
    Moves: 3-ply, cube decisions: XG Roller

    eXtreme Gammon Version: 2.19.211.pre-release

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    Variant
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    XGID=--aBBBB-B-A--A--Ab-ccbbBb-:1:1:1:21:0:0:0:0:10

    Score is X:0 O:0. Unlimited Game
    +13-14-15-16-17-18------19-20-21-22-23-24-+
    | X X O | | O O O O X O |
    | O | | O O O O X O |
    | | | O O |
    | | | |
    | | | |
    | |BAR| |
    | | | |
    | | | |
    | | | | +---+
    | X | | X X X X | | 2 |
    | X X | | X X X X O | +---+
    +12-11-10--9--8--7-------6--5--4--3--2--1-+
    Pip count X: 137 O: 88 X-O: 0-0
    Cube: 2, X own cube
    X to play 21

    1. Rollout¹ 10/7 eq:+0.428
    Player: 61.33% (G:8.09% B:0.23%)
    Opponent: 38.67% (G:21.96% B:1.36%)
    Confidence: ±0.008 (+0.420..+0.436) - [100.0%]

    2. Rollout¹ 16/13 eq:+0.338 (-0.090)
    Player: 58.92% (G:8.12% B:0.26%)
    Opponent: 41.08% (G:15.26% B:0.65%)
    Confidence: ±0.009 (+0.329..+0.347) - [0.0%]

    ¹ 1296 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
    Dice Seed: 271828
    Moves: 3-ply, cube decisions: XG Roller

    eXtreme Gammon Version: 2.19.211.pre-release

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    Tim Chow

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