• Break anchor or dump? 2

    From Timothy Chow@21:1/5 to All on Sat Sep 23 10:04:19 2023
    XGID=--B-bCCCB---b-----bd-Babb-:0:0:1:53:0:0:0:0:10

    Score is X:0 O:0. Unlimited Game
    +13-14-15-16-17-18------19-20-21-22-23-24-+
    | O | | O X O O O |
    | O | | O X O O |
    | | | O |
    | | | O |
    | | | |
    | |BAR| |
    | | | |
    | | | |
    | X | | X X |
    | O X X | | X X O X |
    | O X X | | X X O X |
    +12-11-10--9--8--7-------6--5--4--3--2--1-+
    Pip count X: 116 O: 115 X-O: 0-0
    Cube: 1
    X to play 53

    ---
    Tim Chow

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  • From Stick Rice@21:1/5 to Timothy Chow on Sat Sep 23 09:31:44 2023
    On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 10:04:23 AM UTC-4, Timothy Chow wrote:
    XGID=--B-bCCCB---b-----bd-Babb-:0:0:1:53:0:0:0:0:10

    Score is X:0 O:0. Unlimited Game
    +13-14-15-16-17-18------19-20-21-22-23-24-+
    | O | | O X O O O |
    | O | | O X O O |
    | | | O |
    | | | O |
    | | | |
    | |BAR| |
    | | | |
    | | | |
    | X | | X X |
    | O X X | | X X O X |
    | O X X | | X X O X |
    +12-11-10--9--8--7-------6--5--4--3--2--1-+
    Pip count X: 116 O: 115 X-O: 0-0
    Cube: 1
    X to play 53

    ---
    Tim Chow

    For me it's not a question of breaking anchor or dumping, it's a question of within the correct play which version of it is correct?

    Stick

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  • From ah....Clem@21:1/5 to Timothy Chow on Sat Sep 23 16:03:35 2023
    On 9/23/2023 10:04 AM, Timothy Chow wrote:
    XGID=--B-bCCCB---b-----bd-Babb-:0:0:1:53:0:0:0:0:10

    Score is X:0 O:0. Unlimited Game
     +13-14-15-16-17-18------19-20-21-22-23-24-+
     |                O |   | O     X  O  O  O |
     |                O |   | O     X     O  O |
     |                  |   | O                |
     |                  |   | O                |
     |                  |   |                  |
     |                  |BAR|                  |
     |                  |   |                  |
     |                  |   |                  |
     |                X |   | X  X             |
     | O           X  X |   | X  X  O     X    |
     | O           X  X |   | X  X  O     X    |
     +12-11-10--9--8--7-------6--5--4--3--2--1-+
    Pip count  X: 116  O: 115 X-O: 0-0
    Cube: 1
    X to play 53


    Race is even, O is stuck behind a four prime, and has a bunch of buried checkers. An exchange of hits favors X and keeping the prime seems thematic.

    It's possible to keep the prime while dumping, but breaking anchor seems better. 21/13

    --
    Ah....Clem
    The future is fun, the future is fair.

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  • From Timothy Chow@21:1/5 to All on Mon Sep 25 08:47:59 2023
    XGID=--B-bCCCB---b-----bd-Babb-:0:0:1:53:0:0:0:0:10

    Score is X:0 O:0. Unlimited Game
    +13-14-15-16-17-18------19-20-21-22-23-24-+
    | O | | O X O O O |
    | O | | O X O O |
    | | | O |
    | | | O |
    | | | |
    | |BAR| |
    | | | |
    | | | |
    | X | | X X |
    | O X X | | X X O X |
    | O X X | | X X O X |
    +12-11-10--9--8--7-------6--5--4--3--2--1-+
    Pip count X: 116 O: 115 X-O: 0-0
    Cube: 1
    X to play 53

    X has only a slight race lead after this roll, and O has an inflexible position, which might force her to leave a blot soon. X's dumping plays
    are a bit ugly but don't completely kill any checkers. The rollout says
    that running 21/13 is a whopper with cheese.

    To create a variant where XG runs requires a significant change to the position. In Variant 1, O has a second blot in her board. In Variant 2,
    I have changed the roll to 64 *and* moved one of O's spares to her
    midpoint.

    1. Rollout¹ 7/2 6/3 eq:+0.151
    Player: 55.09% (G:8.90% B:0.24%)
    Opponent: 44.91% (G:6.67% B:0.20%)
    Confidence: ±0.010 (+0.142..+0.161) - [98.6%]

    2. Rollout¹ 8/5 8/3 eq:+0.137 (-0.015)
    Player: 54.69% (G:9.07% B:0.29%)
    Opponent: 45.31% (G:5.86% B:0.19%)
    Confidence: ±0.009 (+0.128..+0.145) - [1.4%]

    3. Rollout¹ 8/3 6/3 eq:+0.126 (-0.025)
    Player: 53.92% (G:11.94% B:0.44%)
    Opponent: 46.08% (G:6.01% B:0.15%)
    Confidence: ±0.010 (+0.117..+0.136) - [0.0%]

    4. Rollout¹ 6/1 5/2 eq:+0.104 (-0.047)
    Player: 53.30% (G:9.08% B:0.25%)
    Opponent: 46.70% (G:7.50% B:0.21%)
    Confidence: ±0.010 (+0.094..+0.115) - [0.0%]

    5. Rollout¹ 7/2 5/2 eq:+0.086 (-0.065)
    Player: 52.57% (G:8.07% B:0.23%)
    Opponent: 47.43% (G:7.23% B:0.23%)
    Confidence: ±0.009 (+0.077..+0.096) - [0.0%]

    6. Rollout¹ 21/13 eq:+0.018 (-0.133)
    Player: 52.14% (G:11.70% B:0.64%)
    Opponent: 47.86% (G:14.49% B:0.21%)
    Confidence: ±0.009 (+0.009..+0.028) - [0.0%]

    7. Rollout¹ 21/16 6/3 eq:-0.042 (-0.194)
    Player: 50.45% (G:13.02% B:0.66%)
    Opponent: 49.55% (G:19.21% B:0.36%)
    Confidence: ±0.011 (-0.054..-0.031) - [0.0%]

    ¹ 1296 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
    Dice Seed: 271828
    Moves: 3-ply, cube decisions: XG Roller

    eXtreme Gammon Version: 2.19.211.pre-release

    ---------
    Variant 1
    ---------

    XGID=--B-bCCCB---b-----bcaBabb-:0:0:1:53:0:0:0:0:10

    Score is X:0 O:0. Unlimited Game
    +13-14-15-16-17-18------19-20-21-22-23-24-+
    | O | | O O X O O O |
    | O | | O X O O |
    | | | O |
    | | | |
    | | | |
    | |BAR| |
    | | | |
    | | | |
    | X | | X X |
    | O X X | | X X O X |
    | O X X | | X X O X |
    +12-11-10--9--8--7-------6--5--4--3--2--1-+
    Pip count X: 116 O: 114 X-O: 0-0
    Cube: 1
    X to play 53

    1. Rollout¹ 21/13 eq:+0.182
    Player: 56.28% (G:10.95% B:0.48%)
    Opponent: 43.72% (G:12.03% B:0.15%)
    Confidence: ±0.007 (+0.174..+0.189) - [76.1%]

    2. Rollout¹ 8/3 6/3 eq:+0.178 (-0.004)
    Player: 54.54% (G:12.98% B:0.56%)
    Opponent: 45.46% (G:7.06% B:0.17%)
    Confidence: ±0.007 (+0.171..+0.185) - [21.8%]

    3. Rollout¹ 8/5 8/3 eq:+0.172 (-0.009)
    Player: 54.99% (G:11.77% B:0.45%)
    Opponent: 45.01% (G:7.52% B:0.22%)
    Confidence: ±0.007 (+0.165..+0.180) - [2.1%]

    4. Rollout¹ 7/2 6/3 eq:+0.153 (-0.028)
    Player: 54.39% (G:11.09% B:0.38%)
    Opponent: 45.61% (G:8.41% B:0.27%)
    Confidence: ±0.007 (+0.146..+0.160) - [0.0%]

    ¹ 2592 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
    Dice Seed: 271828
    Moves: 3-ply, cube decisions: XG Roller

    eXtreme Gammon Version: 2.19.211.pre-release

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    Variant 2
    ---------

    XGID=--B-bCCCB---c-----bc-Babb-:0:0:1:64:0:0:0:0:10

    Score is X:0 O:0. Unlimited Game
    +13-14-15-16-17-18------19-20-21-22-23-24-+
    | O | | O X O O O |
    | O | | O X O O |
    | | | O |
    | | | |
    | | | |
    | |BAR| |
    | | | |
    | | | |
    | O X | | X X |
    | O X X | | X X O X |
    | O X X | | X X O X |
    +12-11-10--9--8--7-------6--5--4--3--2--1-+
    Pip count X: 116 O: 122 X-O: 0-0
    Cube: 1
    X to play 64

    1. Rollout¹ 21/11 eq:+0.304
    Player: 59.19% (G:12.18% B:0.49%)
    Opponent: 40.81% (G:8.68% B:0.13%)
    Confidence: ±0.011 (+0.293..+0.314) - [100.0%]

    2. Rollout¹ 7/1 5/1 eq:+0.248 (-0.056)
    Player: 57.96% (G:10.73% B:0.27%)
    Opponent: 42.04% (G:6.90% B:0.20%)
    Confidence: ±0.010 (+0.238..+0.257) - [0.0%]

    ¹ 1296 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
    Dice Seed: 271828
    Moves: 3-ply, cube decisions: XG Roller

    eXtreme Gammon Version: 2.19.211.pre-release

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    Tim Chow

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