• Losing the priming battle

    From Timothy Chow@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 25 09:33:35 2023
    XGID=-aBACBBB---------abbbdbaC-:1:1:1:52:0:0:0:0:10

    Score is X:0 O:0. Unlimited Game
    +13-14-15-16-17-18------19-20-21-22-23-24-+
    | O O | | O O O O O X |
    | O | | O O O O X |
    | | | O X |
    | | | O |
    | | | |
    | |BAR| |
    | | | |
    | | | |
    | | | X | +---+
    | X | | X X X X | | 2 |
    | X | | X X X X X O | +---+
    +12-11-10--9--8--7-------6--5--4--3--2--1-+
    Pip count X: 127 O: 92 X-O: 0-0
    Cube: 2, X own cube
    X to play 52

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    Tim Chow

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  • From Robert Zimmerman@21:1/5 to Timothy Chow on Sat Mar 25 17:30:27 2023
    On Saturday, March 25, 2023 at 9:33:39 AM UTC-4, Timothy Chow wrote:
    XGID=-aBACBBB---------abbbdbaC-:1:1:1:52:0:0:0:0:10

    Score is X:0 O:0. Unlimited Game
    +13-14-15-16-17-18------19-20-21-22-23-24-+
    | O O | | O O O O O X |
    | O | | O O O O X |
    | | | O X |
    | | | O |
    | | | |
    | |BAR| |
    | | | |
    | | | |
    | | | X | +---+
    | X | | X X X X | | 2 |
    | X | | X X X X X O | +---+
    +12-11-10--9--8--7-------6--5--4--3--2--1-+
    Pip count X: 127 O: 92 X-O: 0-0
    Cube: 2, X own cube
    X to play 52

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    Tim Chow

    Duplication is rarely a primary motive. But when you're swimming in cement and you see that duplication is floating at arms length, I guess I'd give it a try.
    7/5 7/2

    Bob

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  • From Timothy Chow@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 27 09:46:09 2023
    XGID=-aBACBBB---------abbbdbaC-:1:1:1:52:0:0:0:0:10

    Score is X:0 O:0. Unlimited Game
    +13-14-15-16-17-18------19-20-21-22-23-24-+
    | O O | | O O O O O X |
    | O | | O O O O X |
    | | | O X |
    | | | O |
    | | | |
    | |BAR| |
    | | | |
    | | | |
    | | | X | +---+
    | X | | X X X X | | 2 |
    | X | | X X X X X O | +---+
    +12-11-10--9--8--7-------6--5--4--3--2--1-+
    Pip count X: 127 O: 92 X-O: 0-0
    Cube: 2, X own cube
    X to play 52

    Should X hit for tempo and hope to escape before O completes her
    six-prime, or should he hope that O won't escape her straggler
    and be forced to collapse her own prime? XG says don't hit.

    Bob had an interesting comment about duplication, but I think the
    duplication is less important than the amount of time O has to
    hold her own prime. See variant below.

    1. Rollout¹ 7/5 7/2 eq:-0.990
    Player: 16.01% (G:1.76% B:0.05%)
    Opponent: 83.99% (G:35.68% B:3.57%)
    Confidence: ±0.007 (-0.997..-0.984) - [100.0%]

    2. Rollout¹ 7/2 3/1* eq:-1.123 (-0.133)
    Player: 12.69% (G:2.24% B:0.07%)
    Opponent: 87.31% (G:40.36% B:4.50%)
    Confidence: ±0.008 (-1.132..-1.115) - [0.0%]

    ¹ 1296 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
    Dice Seed: 271828
    Moves: 3-ply, cube decisions: XG Roller

    eXtreme Gammon Version: 2.19.211.pre-release

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    Variant
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    XGID=-aBACBBB---------abbbbdaC-:1:1:1:52:0:0:0:0:10

    Score is X:0 O:0. Unlimited Game
    +13-14-15-16-17-18------19-20-21-22-23-24-+
    | O O | | O O O O O X |
    | O | | O O O O X |
    | | | O X |
    | | | O |
    | | | |
    | |BAR| |
    | | | |
    | | | |
    | | | X | +---+
    | X | | X X X X | | 2 |
    | X | | X X X X X O | +---+
    +12-11-10--9--8--7-------6--5--4--3--2--1-+
    Pip count X: 127 O: 90 X-O: 0-0
    Cube: 2, X own cube
    X to play 52

    1. Rollout¹ 7/5 7/2 eq:-0.973
    Player: 16.53% (G:1.69% B:0.06%)
    Opponent: 83.47% (G:34.79% B:3.35%)
    Confidence: ±0.009 (-0.982..-0.964) - [100.0%]

    2. Rollout¹ 7/2 3/1* eq:-1.106 (-0.133)
    Player: 12.69% (G:2.29% B:0.08%)
    Opponent: 87.31% (G:38.81% B:4.09%)
    Confidence: ±0.008 (-1.114..-1.098) - [0.0%]

    ¹ 1296 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
    Dice Seed: 271828
    Moves: 3-ply, cube decisions: XG Roller

    eXtreme Gammon Version: 2.19.211.pre-release

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    Tim Chow

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  • From Robert Zimmerman@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 27 08:34:50 2023
    Bob had an interesting comment about duplication, but I think the
    duplication is less important than the amount of time O has to
    hold her own prime. See variant below.

    QED! Nice.

    Bob

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