• It's gammon save

    From Timothy Chow@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 16 09:42:44 2023
    Score is X:1 O:0 2 pt.(s) match.
    +13-14-15-16-17-18------19-20-21-22-23-24-+
    | X | | O O O X |
    | X | | O O O X |
    | | | O O |
    | | | O |
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    | |BAR| |
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    | X X | | X |
    | X X | | X X |
    | O X X | | X X |
    +12-11-10--9--8--7-------6--5--4--3--2--1-+
    Pip count X: 157 O: 44 X-O: 1-0/2 Crawford
    Cube: 1
    X to play 51

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    Tim Chow

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  • From Robert Zimmerman@21:1/5 to Timothy Chow on Thu Mar 16 09:26:07 2023
    On Thursday, March 16, 2023 at 9:42:46 AM UTC-4, Timothy Chow wrote:
    Score is X:1 O:0 2 pt.(s) match.
    +13-14-15-16-17-18------19-20-21-22-23-24-+
    | X | | O O O X |
    | X | | O O O X |
    | | | O O |
    | | | O |
    | | | |
    | |BAR| |
    | | | |
    | | | |
    | X X | | X |
    | X X | | X X |
    | O X X | | X X |
    +12-11-10--9--8--7-------6--5--4--3--2--1-+
    Pip count X: 157 O: 44 X-O: 1-0/2 Crawford
    Cube: 1
    X to play 51

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    Tim Chow
    Can't read it without XGID (google groupie).
    Bob

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  • From pepstein5@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Robert Zimmerman on Thu Mar 16 10:19:26 2023
    On Thursday, March 16, 2023 at 4:26:08 PM UTC, Robert Zimmerman wrote:
    On Thursday, March 16, 2023 at 9:42:46 AM UTC-4, Timothy Chow wrote:
    Score is X:1 O:0 2 pt.(s) match. +13-14-15-16-17-18------19-20-21-22-23-24-+
    | X | | O O O X |
    | X | | O O O X |
    | | | O O |
    | | | O |
    | | | |
    | |BAR| |
    | | | |
    | | | |
    | X X | | X |
    | X X | | X X |
    | O X X | | X X |
    +12-11-10--9--8--7-------6--5--4--3--2--1-+
    Pip count X: 157 O: 44 X-O: 1-0/2 Crawford
    Cube: 1
    X to play 51

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    Tim Chow
    Can't read it without XGID (google groupie).
    Bob

    It's readable via this website: https://bglog.org/rgbnews.html

    Simon

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  • From Robert Zimmerman@21:1/5 to peps...@gmail.com on Thu Mar 16 10:26:38 2023
    On Thursday, March 16, 2023 at 1:19:28 PM UTC-4, peps...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Thursday, March 16, 2023 at 4:26:08 PM UTC, Robert Zimmerman wrote:
    On Thursday, March 16, 2023 at 9:42:46 AM UTC-4, Timothy Chow wrote:
    Score is X:1 O:0 2 pt.(s) match. +13-14-15-16-17-18------19-20-21-22-23-24-+
    | X | | O O O X |
    | X | | O O O X |
    | | | O O |
    | | | O |
    | | | |
    | |BAR| |
    | | | |
    | | | |
    | X X | | X |
    | X X | | X X |
    | O X X | | X X |
    +12-11-10--9--8--7-------6--5--4--3--2--1-+
    Pip count X: 157 O: 44 X-O: 1-0/2 Crawford
    Cube: 1
    X to play 51

    ---
    Tim Chow
    Can't read it without XGID (google groupie).
    Bob
    It's readable via this website: https://bglog.org/rgbnews.html

    Simon
    Thanks!

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  • From Robert Zimmerman@21:1/5 to Timothy Chow on Thu Mar 16 10:45:43 2023
    On Thursday, March 16, 2023 at 9:42:46 AM UTC-4, Timothy Chow wrote:
    Score is X:1 O:0 2 pt.(s) match.
    +13-14-15-16-17-18------19-20-21-22-23-24-+
    | X | | O O O X |
    | X | | O O O X |
    | | | O O |
    | | | O |
    | | | |
    | |BAR| |
    | | | |
    | | | |
    | X X | | X |
    | X X | | X X |
    | O X X | | X X |
    +12-11-10--9--8--7-------6--5--4--3--2--1-+
    Pip count X: 157 O: 44 X-O: 1-0/2 Crawford
    Cube: 1
    X to play 51

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    Tim Chow
    Since our board is good and can improve, I'd play 24/19, preferring to hit rather than be hit with 18/13. Then the one. That's tough. If we split the 18 point and get hit on 17, we're left with only a few indirect shots. Preserving the 18 would block 8s
    and 44. I'd play 6/5.
    24/19 6/5
    Bob

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  • From Timothy Chow@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 19 09:56:27 2023
    XGID=-----BCCC-a-------B--dcbB-:0:0:1:51:1:0:1:2:10

    Score is X:1 O:0 2 pt.(s) match.
    +13-14-15-16-17-18------19-20-21-22-23-24-+
    | X | | O O O X |
    | X | | O O O X |
    | | | O O |
    | | | O |
    | | | |
    | |BAR| |
    | | | |
    | | | |
    | X X | | X |
    | X X | | X X |
    | O X X | | X X |
    +12-11-10--9--8--7-------6--5--4--3--2--1-+
    Pip count X: 157 O: 44 X-O: 1-0/2 Crawford
    Cube: 1
    X to play 51

    This is a somewhat unusual position where the irrelevance of
    backgammons makes a significant difference, even though it might
    seem that the backgammon is a long way off.

    1. Rollout¹ 8/3 6/5 eq:-1.241
    Player: 32.33% (G:0.00% B:0.00%)
    Opponent: 67.67% (G:44.41% B:30.48%)
    Confidence: ±0.010 (-1.252..-1.231) - [94.5%]

    2. Rollout¹ 18/17 8/3 eq:-1.254 (-0.012)
    Player: 32.24% (G:0.00% B:0.00%)
    Opponent: 67.76% (G:44.93% B:32.38%)
    Confidence: ±0.010 (-1.263..-1.244) - [4.4%]

    3. Rollout¹ 8/3 7/6 eq:-1.257 (-0.016)
    Player: 31.90% (G:0.00% B:0.00%)
    Opponent: 68.10% (G:44.77% B:30.96%)
    Confidence: ±0.010 (-1.267..-1.248) - [1.1%]

    4. Rollout¹ 24/19 6/5 eq:-1.329 (-0.088)
    Player: 32.95% (G:0.00% B:0.00%)
    Opponent: 67.05% (G:49.42% B:8.84%)
    Confidence: ±0.010 (-1.339..-1.320) - [0.0%]

    5. Rollout¹ 24/19 7/6 eq:-1.350 (-0.108)
    Player: 32.13% (G:0.00% B:0.00%)
    Opponent: 67.87% (G:49.61% B:8.38%)
    Confidence: ±0.009 (-1.359..-1.340) - [0.0%]

    ¹ 1296 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
    Dice Seed: 271828
    Moves: 3-ply, cube decisions: XG Roller

    eXtreme Gammon Version: 2.19.211.pre-release, MET: Kazaross XG2

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    Money
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    XGID=-----BCCC-a-------B--dcbB-:1:1:1:51:0:0:0:0:10

    Score is X:0 O:0. Unlimited Game
    +13-14-15-16-17-18------19-20-21-22-23-24-+
    | X | | O O O X |
    | X | | O O O X |
    | | | O O |
    | | | O |
    | | | |
    | |BAR| |
    | | | |
    | | | |
    | X X | | X | +---+
    | X X | | X X | | 2 |
    | O X X | | X X | +---+
    +12-11-10--9--8--7-------6--5--4--3--2--1-+
    Pip count X: 157 O: 44 X-O: 0-0
    Cube: 2, X own cube
    X to play 51

    1. Rollout¹ 24/19 6/5 eq:-0.716
    Player: 32.95% (G:0.00% B:0.00%)
    Opponent: 67.05% (G:50.72% B:2.97%)
    Confidence: ±0.011 (-0.727..-0.706) - [99.0%]

    2. Rollout¹ 24/19 7/6 eq:-0.734 (-0.018)
    Player: 32.31% (G:0.00% B:0.00%)
    Opponent: 67.69% (G:51.00% B:2.97%)
    Confidence: ±0.011 (-0.745..-0.724) - [1.0%]

    3. Rollout¹ 24/19 8/7 eq:-0.739 (-0.023)
    Player: 32.38% (G:0.00% B:0.00%)
    Opponent: 67.62% (G:51.57% B:3.05%)
    Confidence: ±0.010 (-0.749..-0.729) - [0.1%]

    4. Rollout¹ 8/3 6/5 eq:-0.791 (-0.075)
    Player: 31.72% (G:0.00% B:0.00%)
    Opponent: 68.28% (G:48.83% B:9.41%)
    Confidence: ±0.010 (-0.801..-0.781) - [0.0%]

    5. Rollout¹ 18/17 8/3 eq:-0.805 (-0.088)
    Player: 31.74% (G:0.00% B:0.00%)
    Opponent: 68.26% (G:49.42% B:10.19%)
    Confidence: ±0.010 (-0.815..-0.795) - [0.0%]

    ¹ 1296 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
    Dice Seed: 271828
    Moves: 3-ply, cube decisions: XG Roller

    eXtreme Gammon Version: 2.19.211.pre-release

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    Tim Chow

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  • From Timothy Chow@21:1/5 to Robert Zimmerman on Sun Mar 19 09:57:14 2023
    On 3/16/2023 12:26 PM, Robert Zimmerman wrote:
    Can't read it without XGID (google groupie).

    Whoops, sorry about that.

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    Tim Chow

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