• An open appeal from Murat to Axel

    From MK@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jan 5 04:52:40 2023
    Axel, you are special to me, for doing the
    "Murat mutant experiment" if for nothing
    else. And then for doing more experiments
    even after you had declared "case closed".

    You are better than Tim Chow, Phillippe
    Michel, et. al. because they would have
    never done such an experiment.

    Phillippe Michel wouldn't implement trivial
    feature additions, that I had suggested, to
    Gnubg that even a "school boy of 12 years"
    could easily make in a matter of hours, if
    not minutes.

    If those features were implemented, we all
    (including you) could run all kinds of mutant
    experiments without each needing to program
    our own mutant bots.

    Gnung team will implemet features like your
    Isight or whatever else "gilding the brown lily"
    type of features but won't implement anything
    that may work against their own interests, by
    debunking any bullshit that Gnubg is shakily
    built on...

    I will keep extending out my friendly hand to
    you, with the hope that someday you will grab
    it because you are different, better than them.

    If peer pressure or your being a mentally ill
    gambler makes it difficult for you to cross the
    line to come over to my side all the way, it's
    okay. Just try to meet me half way. Or even to
    just make one baby step at a time towards me.
    Be a gambler by night and be a real, sober, sane
    mathematician by day. Can you do that...?

    How old are you? Not yet old enough enough to
    be who you choose to be and fuck them all...?

    As long as you don't get it to your head too much,
    I absolutely don't mind sticking my neck out to
    make such a public appeal to you because the
    possible rewards from it can be revolutionary...

    Have courage Axel! You can do it...

    MK

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  • From Timothy Chow@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jan 5 08:17:59 2023
    On 1/5/2023 7:52 AM, MK wrote:
    I will keep extending out my friendly hand to
    you, with the hope that someday you will grab
    it because you are different, better than them.

    If peer pressure or your being a mentally ill
    gambler makes it difficult for you to cross the
    line to come over to my side all the way, it's
    okay. Just try to meet me half way. Or even to
    just make one baby step at a time towards me.

    With friends like these, who needs enemies?

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    Tim Chow

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  • From MK@21:1/5 to Tim Chow on Thu Jan 5 05:51:17 2023
    On January 5, 2023 at 6:18:01 AM UTC-7, Tim Chow wrote:

    On 1/5/2023 7:52 AM, MK wrote:

    I will keep extending out my friendly hand to
    you, with the hope that someday you will grab
    it because you are different, better than them.

    With friends like these, who needs enemies?

    Thank you for illustrating my point by posting
    a one-liner with zero substance... ;)

    Even though I think Axel may be a sick gambler,
    in negative equity to his other positive qualities,
    don't worry, I will never deem anyone else as
    sick as you are, in the way that you are sick... ;)

    MK

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  • From Timothy Chow@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jan 6 07:47:24 2023
    On 1/5/2023 8:51 AM, MK wrote:
    On January 5, 2023 at 6:18:01 AM UTC-7, Tim Chow wrote:

    On 1/5/2023 7:52 AM, MK wrote:

    I will keep extending out my friendly hand to
    you, with the hope that someday you will grab
    it because you are different, better than them.

    With friends like these, who needs enemies?

    Thank you for illustrating my point by posting
    a one-liner with zero substance... ;)

    Thank you for illustrating my point by cleverly deleting the
    insults you hurled at Axel!

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    Tim Chow

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  • From MK@21:1/5 to Tim Chow on Fri Jan 6 10:33:15 2023
    On January 6, 2023 at 5:47:24 AM UTC-7, Tim Chow wrote:

    On 1/5/2023 8:51 AM, MK wrote:

    On January 5, 2023 at 6:18:01 AM UTC-7, Tim Chow wrote:

    With friends like these, who needs enemies?

    Thank you for illustrating my point by posting
    a one-liner with zero substance... ;)

    Thank you for illustrating my point by cleverly
    deleting the insults you hurled at Axel!

    I will reply and explain nicely because I would
    like to be understood, (and correctly), especially
    by Axel in this particular case.

    First to your accusation: the only thing that may
    be taken as insult in my original post was calling
    him a mentally ill gambler, (which wasn't the first
    time). I have used the words ill/sick gambler for
    years, more to make a factual point than to insult,
    for pretty much any/every gambler here.

    In my reply to you, I didn't requote that paragraph
    to focus on your and my usage of the word "friend"
    but I also repeated myself by using the words "sick
    gambler". Ironically, you deleted that line yourself
    in your last reply to me...

    Now, on to my general reply: There are millions of
    gamblers in the world and I have never been on a
    mission to save the humanity from its illnesses. I
    only resented the gamblegammon gamblers for
    having turned backgammon, that I much love, into
    a gambling tool but in time, I got over that also.

    When some people are proud to call themselves
    "professional gambler", I didn't think calling some
    mentally ill/sick gamblers would be an insult since
    gambling is considered addiction, disorder, illness
    but neither would I mind if some took it as an insult.

    As gamblers in general are in denial of their illness,
    my concern is that gamblegammon gamblers use
    and defend all kinds of fallacies in order to deceive
    themselves that they participate in skill competitions
    and such, as a way to deny their addiction/illness.

    As mathematicians, computer programmers, etc. I
    don't think gamblers can see bullshit like "cube skill"
    for what it really is. I don't think Axel can either. :(
    That's why I was encouraging him to do as much as
    he possibly can, (i.e. by being a sick gambler by night
    and a sane mathematician by day)... I hope that he
    (and you, and others) will make efforts to look at and
    see backgammon through the eyes of a non-gambler.

    MK

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  • From Timothy Chow@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jan 7 08:29:56 2023
    On 1/6/2023 1:33 PM, MK wrote:
    First to your accusation: the only thing that may
    be taken as insult in my original post was calling
    him a mentally ill gambler, (which wasn't the first
    time).

    LOL. I guess by your standards, it's high praise to ask, "How old
    are you? Not yet old enough enough to be who you choose to be and
    fuck them all...?"

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    Tim Chow

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  • From MK@21:1/5 to Tim Chow on Sun Jan 8 01:40:16 2023
    On January 7, 2023 at 6:29:58 AM UTC-7, Tim Chow wrote:

    On 1/6/2023 1:33 PM, MK wrote:

    First to your accusation: the only thing that may
    be taken as insult in my original post was calling
    him a mentally ill gambler, (which wasn't the first
    time).

    LOL. I guess by your standards, it's high praise to
    ask, "How old are you? Not yet old enough enough
    to be who you choose to be and fuck them all...?"

    Did anyone say it was a praise? I was referring back
    to my preceeding comment about "peer pressure". It
    generally takes getting gray/white haired/bearded to
    be able free onself from it.

    I'm not surprised that members of packs of sick dogs
    like you may not understand what it is like. Ever... :(

    MK

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