• Late game blitz

    From Timothy Chow@21:1/5 to All on Wed Dec 28 10:24:03 2022
    XGID=aBBB-CB--A-bb-A--bBbc--c--:1:-1:1:41:0:0:0:0:10

    Score is X:0 O:0. Unlimited Game
    +13-14-15-16-17-18------19-20-21-22-23-24-+
    | X O X | | O O O | +---+
    | O X | | O O O | | 2 |
    | | | O O | +---+
    | | | |
    | | | |
    | |BAR| |
    | | O | |
    | | | |
    | | | X |
    | O O | | X X X X X |
    | O O X | | X X X X X |
    +12-11-10--9--8--7-------6--5--4--3--2--1-+
    Pip count X: 98 O: 128 X-O: 0-0
    Cube: 2, O own cube
    X to play 41

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    Tim Chow

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  • From pepstein5@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Tim Chow on Wed Dec 28 10:36:57 2022
    On Wednesday, December 28, 2022 at 3:24:05 PM UTC, Tim Chow wrote:
    XGID=aBBB-CB--A-bb-A--bBbc--c--:1:-1:1:41:0:0:0:0:10

    Score is X:0 O:0. Unlimited Game
    +13-14-15-16-17-18------19-20-21-22-23-24-+
    | X O X | | O O O | +---+
    | O X | | O O O | | 2 |
    | | | O O | +---+
    | | | |
    | | | |
    | |BAR| |
    | | O | |
    | | | |
    | | | X |
    | O O | | X X X X X |
    | O O X | | X X X X X |
    +12-11-10--9--8--7-------6--5--4--3--2--1-+
    Pip count X: 98 O: 128 X-O: 0-0
    Cube: 2, O own cube
    X to play 41

    With our opponent's porous board, we don't have anything to be scared of.
    I think that it's important to close out the opponent quickly to get decent gammon chances.
    Being hit isn't what we want but our 18 point anchor will help in this eventuality.
    So I'll slot while keeping the 5 point board and max the cover numbers.
    So what's my play then?
    What do you mean "What's my play then?"
    I just told you!!!!
    I _said_ "I'll slot while keeping the 5 point board and max the cover numbers."
    What part of the phrase "max the cover numbers" don't you understand?

    Paul

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  • From ah....Clem@21:1/5 to Timothy Chow on Wed Dec 28 18:25:49 2022
    On 12/28/2022 10:24 AM, Timothy Chow wrote:
    XGID=aBBB-CB--A-bb-A--bBbc--c--:1:-1:1:41:0:0:0:0:10

    Score is X:0 O:0. Unlimited Game
     +13-14-15-16-17-18------19-20-21-22-23-24-+
     |    X        O  X |   | O  O        O    | +---+
     |             O  X |   | O  O        O    | | 2 |
     |                  |   |    O        O    | +---+
     |                  |   |                  |
     |                  |   |                  |
     |                  |BAR|                  |
     |                  | O |                  |
     |                  |   |                  |
     |                  |   |    X             |
     | O  O             |   | X  X     X  X  X |
     | O  O     X       |   | X  X     X  X  X |
     +12-11-10--9--8--7-------6--5--4--3--2--1-+
    Pip count  X: 98  O: 128 X-O: 0-0
    Cube: 2, O own cube
    X to play 41

    I don't think slotting the four point is the right idea, but won't be
    surprised if it's the bot play. Escaping the runners while she is on
    the bar is worth a look, but I'll maximize my chances to make the four
    point with 14/10 9/8. Seems more productive than simply making the nine.


    --
    Ah....Clem
    The future is fun, the future is fair.

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  • From Timothy Chow@21:1/5 to All on Fri Dec 30 08:44:05 2022
    XGID=aBBB-CB--A-bb-A--bBbc--c--:1:-1:1:41:0:0:0:0:10

    Score is X:0 O:0. Unlimited Game
    +13-14-15-16-17-18------19-20-21-22-23-24-+
    | X O X | | O O O | +---+
    | O X | | O O O | | 2 |
    | | | O O | +---+
    | | | |
    | | | |
    | |BAR| |
    | | O | |
    | | | |
    | | | X |
    | O O | | X X X X X |
    | O O X | | X X X X X |
    +12-11-10--9--8--7-------6--5--4--3--2--1-+
    Pip count X: 98 O: 128 X-O: 0-0
    Cube: 2, O own cube
    X to play 41

    Slotting is *not* the DMP play. X has the game mostly in hand, and
    if winning the game were the only goal, then slotting would be taking
    an unnecessary risk. However, according to the rollout below, slotting
    wins enough extra gammons to come out on top.

    1. Rollout¹ 14/10 5/4 eq:+1.024
    Player: 79.32% (G:57.22% B:0.17%)
    Opponent: 20.68% (G:5.50% B:0.21%)
    Confidence: ±0.006 (+1.017..+1.030) - [100.0%]

    2. Rollout¹ 14/9 eq:+0.975 (-0.049)
    Player: 81.18% (G:45.09% B:0.23%)
    Opponent: 18.82% (G:2.67% B:0.13%)
    Confidence: ±0.006 (+0.968..+0.981) - [0.0%]

    3. Rollout¹ 14/10 9/8 eq:+0.974 (-0.049)
    Player: 80.35% (G:48.34% B:0.19%)
    Opponent: 19.65% (G:3.30% B:0.15%)
    Confidence: ±0.007 (+0.968..+0.981) - [0.0%]

    4. Rollout¹ 18/14 9/8 eq:+0.933 (-0.091)
    Player: 80.37% (G:43.81% B:0.25%)
    Opponent: 19.63% (G:3.60% B:0.15%)
    Confidence: ±0.007 (+0.925..+0.940) - [0.0%]

    ¹ 1296 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
    Dice Seed: 271828
    Moves: 3-ply, cube decisions: XG Roller

    eXtreme Gammon Version: 2.19.211.pre-release

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    DMP
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    XGID=aBBB-CB--A-bb-A--bBbc--c--:0:0:1:41:0:0:0:1:10

    Score is X:0 O:0 1 pt.(s) match.
    +13-14-15-16-17-18------19-20-21-22-23-24-+
    | X O X | | O O O |
    | O X | | O O O |
    | | | O O |
    | | | |
    | | | |
    | |BAR| |
    | | O | |
    | | | |
    | | | X |
    | O O | | X X X X X |
    | O O X | | X X X X X |
    +12-11-10--9--8--7-------6--5--4--3--2--1-+
    Pip count X: 98 O: 128 X-O: 0-0/1
    Cube: 1
    X to play 41

    1. Rollout¹ 14/9 eq:+0.622
    Player: 81.08% (G:43.66% B:0.15%)
    Opponent: 18.92% (G:2.14% B:0.11%)
    Confidence: ±0.003 (+0.618..+0.625) - [100.0%]

    2. Rollout¹ 18/14 9/8
  • From pepstein5@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Tim Chow on Fri Dec 30 06:55:54 2022
    On Friday, December 30, 2022 at 1:44:07 PM UTC, Tim Chow wrote:
    XGID=aBBB-CB--A-bb-A--bBbc--c--:1:-1:1:41:0:0:0:0:10

    Score is X:0 O:0. Unlimited Game
    +13-14-15-16-17-18------19-20-21-22-23-24-+
    | X O X | | O O O | +---+
    | O X | | O O O | | 2 |
    | | | O O | +---+
    | | | |
    | | | |
    | |BAR| |
    | | O | |
    | | | |
    | | | X |
    | O O | | X X X X X |
    | O O X | | X X X X X |
    +12-11-10--9--8--7-------6--5--4--3--2--1-+
    Pip count X: 98 O: 128 X-O: 0-0
    Cube: 2, O own cube
    X to play 41
    Slotting is *not* the DMP play. X has the game mostly in hand,

    Well, no. The opponent has around 20% winning chances.

    Paul

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  • From Timothy Chow@21:1/5 to peps...@gmail.com on Sat Dec 31 10:18:09 2022
    On 12/30/2022 9:55 AM, peps...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Friday, December 30, 2022 at 1:44:07 PM UTC, Tim Chow wrote:
    Slotting is *not* the DMP play. X has the game mostly in hand,

    Well, no. The opponent has around 20% winning chances.

    I consider that having the game mostly in hand.

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    Tim Chow

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