• Math bulls Tim and Axel constipated??

    From MK@21:1/5 to Axel Reichert on Wed Nov 23 16:01:10 2022
    In my thread "Need help with gamblegammon formulas/calculations",

    On November 19, 2022 at 9:32:07 AM UTC+1, Axel Reichert wrote:

    MK <mu...@compuplus.net> writes:

    if there was as much cube skill as hyped, random
    cube player could not achieve a 15% win rate...

    Try to estimate how often a game will be played to
    conclusion and then think about what this amounts
    to with equal checker play. No surprise here.

    And I had asked Axel some questions in my reply post:

    https://groups.google.com/g/rec.games.backgammon/c/AwI9RYDHLcs/m/2pmWWudFBgAJ

    In my other thread "My experiment to compare checker skill vs cube skill in gamblegammon",

    On November 16, 2022 at 3:45:15 PM UTC+1, Tim Chow wrote:

    On 11/16/2022 3:18 AM, MK wrote:

    Scenario 3: grandmaster vs random checker + grandmaster cube.
    After 500 games: gnubg = 1462, mutant = 4 points

    Scenario 4: grandmaster vs grandmaster checker + random cube.
    After 503 games: gnubg = 2136, mutant = 873 points

    If you found these results surprising then you have a
    long way to go before you achieve any understanding
    of this topic. Your results are completely in line with
    what the conventional wisdom would predict.

    And I had asked Tim some questions in my reply post:

    https://groups.google.com/g/rec.games.backgammon/c/i53IQfeJ_iE/m/UW_7Fc8NBgAJ

    Neither one of you have yet posted any answers to my
    questions even though you have been posting in other
    threads.

    I wonder if you may be ailing from math constipation..? ;)

    If you were the PHD chiefs of some mathematician tribes,
    you would be the feathered, beaded, "Shitting Bull"s... :)

    Come on you two, measure up! Or, have the courage to
    jump over the fence to my side and concede already... ;)

    MK

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  • From Nasti Chestikov@21:1/5 to All on Thu Nov 24 09:12:45 2022
    On Thursday, 24 November 2022 at 00:01:12 UTC, MK wrote:
    In my thread "Need help with gamblegammon formulas/calculations",

    On November 19, 2022 at 9:32:07 AM UTC+1, Axel Reichert wrote:

    MK <mu...@compuplus.net> writes:

    if there was as much cube skill as hyped, random
    cube player could not achieve a 15% win rate...

    Try to estimate how often a game will be played to
    conclusion and then think about what this amounts
    to with equal checker play. No surprise here.

    And I had asked Axel some questions in my reply post:

    https://groups.google.com/g/rec.games.backgammon/c/AwI9RYDHLcs/m/2pmWWudFBgAJ

    In my other thread "My experiment to compare checker skill vs cube skill in gamblegammon",

    On November 16, 2022 at 3:45:15 PM UTC+1, Tim Chow wrote:

    On 11/16/2022 3:18 AM, MK wrote:

    Scenario 3: grandmaster vs random checker + grandmaster cube.
    After 500 games: gnubg = 1462, mutant = 4 points

    Scenario 4: grandmaster vs grandmaster checker + random cube.
    After 503 games: gnubg = 2136, mutant = 873 points

    If you found these results surprising then you have a
    long way to go before you achieve any understanding
    of this topic. Your results are completely in line with
    what the conventional wisdom would predict.

    And I had asked Tim some questions in my reply post:

    https://groups.google.com/g/rec.games.backgammon/c/i53IQfeJ_iE/m/UW_7Fc8NBgAJ

    Neither one of you have yet posted any answers to my
    questions even though you have been posting in other
    threads.

    I wonder if you may be ailing from math constipation..? ;)

    If you were the PHD chiefs of some mathematician tribes,
    you would be the feathered, beaded, "Shitting Bull"s... :)

    Come on you two, measure up! Or, have the courage to
    jump over the fence to my side and concede already... ;)

    MK

    In defence of Tim, he's heavily involved in some road race called "Gumball 3000" which takes place out in the remote bits of the Middle East and I suspect internet connectivity out there is a bit hit-and-miss.

    Give him a chance to catch up once he finds a reliable connection.

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  • From ah....Clem@21:1/5 to All on Thu Nov 24 14:43:41 2022
    On 11/24/2022 12:12 PM, Nasti Chestikov wrote:

    (crap snipped)

    Mathematicians are never constipated.

    We know that no matter how difficult the problem may seem, we can always
    work it out by hand with a pencil.

    HTH. HAND.


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    The future is fun, the future is fair.

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  • From Timothy Chow@21:1/5 to Nasti Chestikov on Thu Nov 24 19:10:52 2022
    On 11/24/2022 12:12 PM, Nasti Chestikov wrote:

    In defence of Tim, he's heavily involved in some road race called "Gumball 3000" which takes place out in the remote bits of the Middle East and I suspect internet connectivity out there is a bit hit-and-miss.

    You took the words right out of my mouth.

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    Tim Chow

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  • From MK@21:1/5 to ah....Clem on Thu Nov 24 19:44:19 2022
    On November 24, 2022 at 12:43:42 PM UTC-7, ah....Clem wrote:

    ....

    (math bull crap snipped)

    MK

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  • From MK@21:1/5 to Nasti Chestikov on Thu Nov 24 19:42:50 2022
    On November 24, 2022 at 10:12:47 AM UTC-7, Nasti Chestikov wrote:

    On Thursday, 24 November 2022 at 00:01:12 UTC, MK wrote:

    Neither one of you have yet posted any answers to my
    questions even though you have been posting in other
    threads.

    I wonder if you may be ailing from math constipation..? ;)

    If you were the PHD chiefs of some mathematician tribes,
    you would be the feathered, beaded, "Shitting Bull"s... :)

    Come on you two, measure up! Or, have the courage to
    jump over the fence to my side and concede already... ;)

    In defence of Tim, he's heavily involved in some road
    race called "Gumball 3000" which takes place....

    Nasti, do you realize that you are diluting and tainting
    my threads with your garbage comments like this one
    way more often that I can tolerate..? I can't tell anyone
    what to or not to post but I hope you can understand
    my growing irritated and frustrated also... :(

    MK

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  • From Nasti Chestikov@21:1/5 to All on Fri Nov 25 06:59:08 2022
    On Friday, 25 November 2022 at 03:42:51 UTC, MK wrote:

    Nasti, do you realize that you are diluting and tainting
    my threads with your garbage comments like this one
    way more often that I can tolerate..? I can't tell anyone
    what to or not to post but I hope you can understand
    my growing irritated and frustrated also... :(

    MK

    Apologies.

    I will restrict my future contributions to discussions relating to bot dice and similar ilk.

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  • From Timothy Chow@21:1/5 to Nasti Chestikov on Fri Nov 25 13:11:44 2022
    On 11/25/2022 9:59 AM, Nasti Chestikov wrote:

    I will restrict my future contributions to discussions relating to bot dice and similar ilk.

    Such as constitutional law?

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    Tim Chow

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  • From Timothy Chow@21:1/5 to All on Fri Nov 25 13:14:13 2022
    On 11/24/2022 10:42 PM, MK wrote:
    Nasti, do you realize that you are diluting and tainting
    my threads with your garbage comments like this one
    way more often that I can tolerate..? I can't tell anyone
    what to or not to post but I hope you can understand
    my growing irritated and frustrated also... :(

    You have it backwards...it's the dummy who is supposed to
    chastise the ventriloquist, not the other way around.

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    Tim Chow

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