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  • I'll pay now but I'll only give you one dollar! Ok?

    From pepstein5@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 15 13:18:11 2022
    This is a question of terminology.
    Suppose we are trying to bear in safely, and we are deciding whether
    to offer a 17/1 shot in the hope of a safer bearoff on subsequent rolls,
    or whether to risk absolutely nothing but have a slightly less smooth position. Is this problem type also "Pay now, Pay later" or is it part of the definition of a "Pay now Pay later" problem that the number of shots conceded
    by the pay now candidate is very large (approx 30% or more)?

    Thank You.

    Paul

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  • From pepstein5@gmail.com@21:1/5 to peps...@gmail.com on Thu Sep 15 13:19:02 2022
    On Thursday, September 15, 2022 at 9:18:12 PM UTC+1, peps...@gmail.com wrote:
    This is a question of terminology.
    Suppose we are trying to bear in safely, and we are deciding whether
    to offer a 17/1 shot in the hope of a safer bearoff on subsequent rolls,
    or whether to risk absolutely nothing but have a slightly less smooth position.
    Is this problem type also "Pay now, Pay later" or is it part of the definition
    of a "Pay now Pay later" problem that the number of shots conceded
    by the pay now candidate is very large (approx 30% or more)?

    Thank You.

    Paul

    bearoff -> bear-in

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  • From Timothy Chow@21:1/5 to peps...@gmail.com on Fri Sep 16 07:41:25 2022
    On 9/15/2022 4:18 PM, peps...@gmail.com wrote:
    This is a question of terminology.
    Suppose we are trying to bear in safely, and we are deciding whether
    to offer a 17/1 shot in the hope of a safer bearoff on subsequent rolls,
    or whether to risk absolutely nothing but have a slightly less smooth position.
    Is this problem type also "Pay now, Pay later" or is it part of the definition
    of a "Pay now Pay later" problem that the number of shots conceded
    by the pay now candidate is very large (approx 30% or more)?

    I've usually seen it applied when you're volunteering a direct shot.
    But I don't think anyone would complain if you used it for the case
    of a 17/1 shot. I think I've probably used it myself for that case
    sometimes.

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    Tim Chow

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