XGID=-----cC-DBB-----bdBf-A-A--:0:0:1:52:0:0:0:0:10
X:Player 1 O:Player 2
Score is X:0 O:0. Unlimited Game
+13-14-15-16-17-18------19-20-21-22-23-24-+
| O O X | | O X X |
| O O X | | O |
| O | | O |
| O | | O |
| | | 6 |
| |BAR| |
| | | |
| X | | |
| X | | X O |
| X X X | | X O |
| X X X | | X O |
+12-11-10--9--8--7-------6--5--4--3--2--1-+
Pip count X: 168 O: 146 X-O: 0-0
Cube: 1
X to play 52
XGID=-----cC-DBB-----bdBf-A-A--:0:0:1:52:0:0:0:0:10I'd say it's an approximately level position even if you do blunder. But chacun a son gout
X:Player 1 O:Player 2
Score is X:0 O:0. Unlimited Game
+13-14-15-16-17-18------19-20-21-22-23-24-+
| O O X | | O X X |
| O O X | | O |
| O | | O |
| O | | O |
| | | 6 |
| |BAR| |
| | | |
| X | | |
| X | | X O |
| X X X | | X O |
| X X X | | X O |
+12-11-10--9--8--7-------6--5--4--3--2--1-+
Pip count X: 168 O: 146 X-O: 0-0
Cube: 1
X to play 52
This is certainly not a backgame. It's probably best described as a
kind of mutual holding game. Still, breaking the 18pt anchor with
23/21 18/13 might seem to be volunteering unnecessary shots. However,
the shots aren't serious since O has no board, and 18/13 creates better outfield control and flexibility than 8/3.
1. Rollout¹ 23/21 18/13 eq:+0.020
Player: 50.73% (G:7.64% B:0.27%)
Opponent: 49.27% (G:9.79% B:0.27%)
Confidence: ±0.016 (+0.004..+0.036) - [100.0%]
2. Rollout¹ 23/21 8/3 eq:-0.058 (-0.078)
Player: 48.58% (G:7.85% B:0.33%)
Opponent: 51.42% (G:10.16% B:0.25%)
Confidence: ±0.015 (-0.072..-0.043) - [0.0%]
¹ 1296 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
Dice Seed: 271828
Moves: 3-ply, cube decisions: XG Roller
eXtreme Gammon Version: 2.19.207.pre-release
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Tim Chow
On Wednesday, June 29, 2022 at 4:31:15 AM UTC+1, Tim Chow wrote:
XGID=-----cC-DBB-----bdBf-A-A--:0:0:1:52:0:0:0:0:10
X:Player 1 O:Player 2
Score is X:0 O:0. Unlimited Game +13-14-15-16-17-18------19-20-21-22-23-24-+
| O O X | | O X X |
| O O X | | O |
| O | | O |
| O | | O |
| | | 6 |
| |BAR| |
| | | |
| X | | |
| X | | X O |
| X X X | | X O |
| X X X | | X O |
+12-11-10--9--8--7-------6--5--4--3--2--1-+
Pip count X: 168 O: 146 X-O: 0-0
Cube: 1
X to play 52
This is certainly not a backgame. It's probably best described as a
kind of mutual holding game. Still, breaking the 18pt anchor with
23/21 18/13 might seem to be volunteering unnecessary shots. However,
the shots aren't serious since O has no board, and 18/13 creates better outfield control and flexibility than 8/3.
1. Rollout¹ 23/21 18/13 eq:+0.020
Player: 50.73% (G:7.64% B:0.27%)
Opponent: 49.27% (G:9.79% B:0.27%)
Confidence: ±0.016 (+0.004..+0.036) - [100.0%]
2. Rollout¹ 23/21 8/3 eq:-0.058 (-0.078)
Player: 48.58% (G:7.85% B:0.33%)
Opponent: 51.42% (G:10.16% B:0.25%)
Confidence: ±0.015 (-0.072..-0.043) - [0.0%]
¹ 1296 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
Dice Seed: 271828
Moves: 3-ply, cube decisions: XG Roller
eXtreme Gammon Version: 2.19.207.pre-release
---I'd say it's an approximately level position even if you do blunder. But chacun a son gout
Tim Chow
It's interesting, anyway.
Paul
XGID=-----cC-DBB-----bdBf-A-A--:0:0:1:52:0:0:0:0:10
X:Player 1 O:Player 2
Score is X:0 O:0. Unlimited Game
+13-14-15-16-17-18------19-20-21-22-23-24-+
| O O X | | O X X |
| O O X | | O |
| O | | O |
| O | | O |
| | | 6 |
| |BAR| |
| | | |
| X | | |
| X | | X O |
| X X X | | X O |
| X X X | | X O |
+12-11-10--9--8--7-------6--5--4--3--2--1-+
Pip count X: 168 O: 146 X-O: 0-0
Cube: 1
X to play 52
This is certainly not a backgame. It's probably best described as a
kind of mutual holding game. Still, breaking the 18pt anchor with
23/21 18/13 might seem to be volunteering unnecessary shots. However,
the shots aren't serious since O has no board, and 18/13 creates better outfield control and flexibility than 8/3.
1. Rollout¹ 23/21 18/13 eq:+0.020
Player: 50.73% (G:7.64% B:0.27%)
Opponent: 49.27% (G:9.79% B:0.27%)
Confidence: ±0.016 (+0.004..+0.036) - [100.0%]
2. Rollout¹ 23/21 8/3 eq:-0.058 (-0.078)
Player: 48.58% (G:7.85% B:0.33%)
Opponent: 51.42% (G:10.16% B:0.25%)
Confidence: ±0.015 (-0.072..-0.043) - [0.0%]
¹ 1296 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
Dice Seed: 271828
Moves: 3-ply, cube decisions: XG Roller
eXtreme Gammon Version: 2.19.207.pre-release
---
Tim Chow
I'm so confused as why you brought the word backgame into it.
On 6/29/2022 4:48 PM, Stick Rice wrote:
I'm so confused as why you brought the word backgame into it.Because Paul mentioned the word.
---
Tim Chow
I didn't say (or think) that the position in this thread is a backgame.
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