While reading the other thread, at one point, I thought
Axel sounded like he was arguing for my case.

What the heck? I wondered if he was pulling a prank on
his colleagues and was trolling them...? :)

Nah. Couldn't be. But that reminded me of the "Devil's
advocate". Could I get him to be "Murat's advocate"? :)

Attorneys often prepare for trials by taking turns to argue
both sides of a case. In the past, a few years ago, I had
asked here in RGB, if mathematicians do the same thing?
(i.e. argue against their own arguments, just to be sure,
before they publish their papers ;)

I remember that long years ago a mathematician in RGB
was asked if he could provide a proof for his argument.

He had replied that, of course, he could because he was
a mathematician and mathematicians could fabricate a
proof for anything (or something along these lines and
I think he was Ullrich but I'd have to search to make sure).

So, if Axel doesn't want to do it, maybe I can ask Ullrich
(or any other mathematician) if he would play "Murat's
advocate"?

Hopefully I can find one who will do it pro bono, for the
combined love of maths and backgammon, but if not
I'll pay (don't worry I have a billionaire friend:).

So, then, my first choice would be a mathematician who
knows all about gamblegammon, cube skill, luck, etc. (in
order to hit the ground running) but who is not a gambler.

A second option would be a non-gambler mathematician
who could hopefully read some articles from the archives
and get up to speed quickly.

A last resort would be a gamblegammon-mathematician
who it may work just as well since the person would be
hired on contract and will be paid only if he delivers a
mathematical proof. ;)

In all cases, I will pick one of the candidates who will be
bidding down to accept the lowest contract amount. No
agent or finder's fees will be paid.

Okay, folks, step forward. The public bidding is open. :)

PS: This is also to give Axel a fair chance to go back and
read the things that he wrote and make corrections if/as
necessary, before I jump on his case... ;) Aren't I nice? :)

MK

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On Monday, April 25, 2022 at 3:41:54 AM UTC-3, MK wrote:

So, then, my first choice would be a mathematician who
knows all about gamblegammon, cube skill, luck, etc. (in
order to hit the ground running) but who is not a gambler.

A second option would be a non-gambler mathematician
who could hopefully read some articles from the archives
and get up to speed quickly.

A last resort would be a gamblegammon-mathematician
who it may work just as well since the person would be
hired on contract and will be paid only if he delivers a
mathematical proof.

Or even a gamblematician with a background in mathgammon.

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On April 25, 2022 at 11:21:12 AM UTC-6, Grunty wrote:

On April 25, 2022 at 3:41:54 AM UTC-3, MK wrote:

So, then, my first choice would be a mathematician who
knows all about gamblegammon, cube skill, luck, etc. (in
order to hit the ground running) but who is not a gambler.

.....

A last resort would be a gamblegammon-mathematician
who it may work just as well since the person would be
hired on contract and will be paid only if he delivers a
mathematical proof.

Or even a gamblematician with a background in mathgammon.

Sure, equal employment opportunity for all... Would that be
a gambler majoring in another game like poker with a minor
in backgammon variants? What you mean by mathgammon
is not obvious for me. Would you care to give a definition?

Regardless of that, since the project involves gamblegammon,
he would need a background at least in that variant.

And what about my first choice above? Does anyone know
such a potential candidate?

I wonder if there ever was one? Tesauro maybe? Anybody
knows whether he was a gambler? Even if he wasn't one
himself, apparently he was under the heavy influence of a
mentally ill pack of gamblegammon-mathematicians when
he was working on his TD-Gammon project.

I am very curious about gamblegammon-mathematicians'
ratio among gambling giants, lesser tournament players,
even local club players, book/paper publishers, RGB and
other forums participants, etc... Could there be a way to
compile a list of them? (I'm not asking any dickheads to
do the work. I'm just wondering.)

In the alternative, does anyone know about any research on
the subject in a different game like poker or even in general
about any type of gambling? I find this very intrigueing...

BTW: Once I catch up with a few other things, I will continue
the other two, three threads from where I had left off.

MK

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On Wednesday, April 27, 2022 at 4:56:09 AM UTC-3, MK wrote:

On April 25, 2022 at 11:21:12 AM UTC-6, Grunty wrote:

On April 25, 2022 at 3:41:54 AM UTC-3, MK wrote:

So, then, my first choice would be a mathematician who
knows all about gamblegammon, cube skill, luck, etc. (in
order to hit the ground running) but who is not a gambler.

.....

A last resort would be a gamblegammon-mathematician
who it may work just as well since the person would be
hired on contract and will be paid only if he delivers a
mathematical proof.

Or even a gamblematician with a background in mathgammon.

Would that be a gambler majoring in another game like poker
with a minor in backgammon variants? What you mean by
mathgammon is not obvious for me.

Put to rethink of it, someone with rather a mathground in backgammon would fit best, for obvious reasons.

In lack of that, I'd look for a backmatician with a gambleground in mathgammon.

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On April 27, 2022 at 8:32:51 AM UTC-6, Grunty wrote:

On April 27, 2022 at 4:56:09 AM UTC-3, MK wrote:

On April 25, 2022 at 11:21:12 AM UTC-6, Grunty wrote:

Or even a gamblematician with a background in mathgammon.

Would that be a gambler majoring in another game like poker
with a minor in backgammon variants? What you mean by
mathgammon is not obvious for me.

Put to rethink of it, someone with rather a mathground in
backgammon would fit best, for obvious reasons.
In lack of that, I'd look for a backmatician with a gambleground
in mathgammon.

You look like a little kid who tries to fart like daddy and ends
up soiling his diaper. :( I am pityingly amused. :)

Keep trying, though. This time you did better than your first
one-liner in this thread. You more than doubled it to two long
sentences. ;)

Why are some of you so spiteful? Is it because I keep making
you mentally ill gamblers feel bad by calling you what you are?

Why don't you then try to help yourselves by going to rehab?

Let me renew my suggestion that a certain percentage of all
revenues from gamblegammon activities should be put into a
fund to help gamblers among you who may want to be cured.

MK

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On 28/04/2022 8:04 am, MK wrote:

Why are some of you so spiteful?

It's a give and take thing, Murat. If you weren't spiteful, others
wouldn't be spiteful to you. It's something kids learn but seems
to have passed you by.

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On 4/27/2022 6:04 PM, MK wrote:

You look like a little kid who tries to fart like daddy and ends
up soiling his diaper. :( I am pityingly amused. :)

Keep trying, though. This time you did better than your first
one-liner in this thread. You more than doubled it to two long
sentences. ;)

Why are some of you so spiteful? Is it because I keep making
you mentally ill gamblers feel bad by calling you what you are?

No, it's because it amuses you. Don't you like being amused?

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On Wednesday, April 27, 2022 at 7:04:46 PM UTC-3, MK wrote:

On April 27, 2022 at 8:32:51 AM UTC-6, Grunty wrote:

On April 27, 2022 at 4:56:09 AM UTC-3, MK wrote:

On April 25, 2022 at 11:21:12 AM UTC-6, Grunty wrote:

Or even a gamblematician with a background in mathgammon.

Would that be a gambler majoring in another game like poker
with a minor in backgammon variants? What you mean by
mathgammon is not obvious for me.

Put to rethink of it, someone with rather a mathground in
backgammon would fit best, for obvious reasons.
In lack of that, I'd look for a backmatician with a gambleground
in mathgammon.

You look like a little kid who tries to fart like daddy and ends
up soiling his diaper. :( I am pityingly amused. :)

Keep trying, though. This time you did better than your first
one-liner in this thread. You more than doubled it to two long
sentences. ;)

Why don't you compile your threads into e-book:
"New Ideas, Reflections And Rebellions About The Game Of Backgammon"
by Murat K. (known as "The Gamblegammon Apostate")
and have your ego buy all the edition?

Otherwise, all that material will get forever lost in the wide flowing of the river of time...

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On 4/28/2022 12:47 AM, Grunty wrote:

Why don't you compile your threads into e-book:
"New Ideas, Reflections And Rebellions About The Game Of Backgammon"
by Murat K. (known as "The Gamblegammon Apostate")
and have your ego buy all the edition?

That's a brilliant idea! I'm sure Nasti Chestikov, chuckles, and
Jack Mack will each buy hundreds of copies. Heck, maybe even Alex
Choi will take time off from hawking fast cars on YouTube to snap
up a few! With all those profits, Murat will be in an excellent
financial position to hire a world-class mathematician.

---
Tim Chow

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On April 28, 2022 at 9:44:13 PM UTC-6, Tim Chow wrote:

That's a brilliant idea! I'm sure Nasti Chestikov, chuckles,
and Jack Mack will each buy hundreds of copies. Heck,
maybe even Alex Choi will take time off from hawking
fast cars on YouTube to snap up a few! With all those
profits, Murat will be in an excellent financial position
to hire a world-class mathematician.

Even in a porposeless/meaningless universe without
comparative values, what you wrote is a perfect proof
of what a pathetic idiot you are.

I don't believe in creation nor in evolution but because
of "creatures" like you who surely couldn't have "evolved"
from anything, let alone monkeys, I'm tempted to believe
that a "supreme scumbag of a god" must have "created"
you for a devine purpose...

I wouldn't piss on the god who created you. :( Get lost!

MK

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On April 27, 2022 at 10:47:27 PM UTC-6, Grunty wrote:

Why don't you compile your threads into e-book:
"New Ideas, Reflections And Rebellions About
The Game Of Backgammon" by Murat K. (known
as "The Gamblegammon Apostate") and have
your ego buy all the edition?

Otherwise, all that material will get forever lost in
the wide flowing of the river of time...

I am an atheist/nihilist, thinker/philosopher in peace
with my purposeless/meaningless existance in this
purposeless/meaningless universe.

I am also aware that nothing will last forever, nor for
a long time or even for a relatively defined short time.

Not the dinosaurs, not the Roman Empire, surely not
my ideas even if compiled into a book...

All I am doing here is one way to spend some of my
time, trying to create for it some subjective meaning
and to derive from it some temporary fulfillment.

I don't consider one way of spending time to be more
worthy than another way. Reading, napping, watching
movies, gardening, making love, making war, being a
serf, being a king, posting to RGB are all the same...

And this is nothing new for me. Here is a poem of mine
from 36 years ago that some of you may dig and like:

===========================================

In the long run

All we have is borrowed time
Birth gives and death takes it
Tomorrow is yesterday's dime
In between, life just fakes it

© Murat Kalinyaprak
October 22, 1986

===========================================

MK

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On 4/30/2022 4:42 AM, MK wrote:

On April 28, 2022 at 9:44:13 PM UTC-6, Tim Chow wrote:

That's a brilliant idea! I'm sure Nasti Chestikov, chuckles,
and Jack Mack will each buy hundreds of copies. Heck,
maybe even Alex Choi will take time off from hawking
fast cars on YouTube to snap up a few! With all those
profits, Murat will be in an excellent financial position
to hire a world-class mathematician.

Even in a porposeless/meaningless universe without
comparative values, what you wrote is a perfect proof
of what a pathetic idiot you are.

I don't believe in creation nor in evolution but because
of "creatures" like you who surely couldn't have "evolved"
from anything, let alone monkeys, I'm tempted to believe
that a "supreme scumbag of a god" must have "created"
you for a devine purpose...

I wouldn't piss on the god who created you. :( Get lost!

But don't you want to make some fast cash so you'll have more
money to hire a good mathematician?

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Tim Chow

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