• 5-away/5-away recube action

    From Timothy Chow@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 15 08:54:45 2022
    XGID=---BaBC-B-B--AA--A--Accec-:1:1:1:00:2:2:0:7:10

    X:Player 1 O:Player 2
    Score is X:2 O:2 7 pt.(s) match.
    +13-14-15-16-17-18------19-20-21-22-23-24-+
    | X X X | | X O O O O |
    | | | O O O O |
    | | | O O O O |
    | | | O |
    | | | O |
    | |BAR| |
    | | | |
    | | | |
    | | | X | +---+
    | X X | | X X X | | 2 |
    | X X | | X X O X | +---+
    +12-11-10--9--8--7-------6--5--4--3--2--1-+
    Pip count X: 134 O: 55 X-O: 2-2/7
    Cube: 2, X own cube
    X on roll, cube action

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    Tim Chow

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  • From Timothy Chow@21:1/5 to All on Thu Feb 17 09:17:25 2022
    XGID=---BaBC-B-B--AA--A--Accec-:1:1:1:00:2:2:0:7:10

    X:Player 1 O:Player 2
    Score is X:2 O:2 7 pt.(s) match.
    +13-14-15-16-17-18------19-20-21-22-23-24-+
    | X X X | | X O O O O |
    | | | O O O O |
    | | | O O O O |
    | | | O |
    | | | O |
    | |BAR| |
    | | | |
    | | | |
    | | | X | +---+
    | X X | | X X X | | 2 |
    | X X | | X X O X | +---+
    +12-11-10--9--8--7-------6--5--4--3--2--1-+
    Pip count X: 134 O: 55 X-O: 2-2/7
    Cube: 2, X own cube
    X on roll, cube action

    At this score and cube value, O has to drop more readily than
    for money in non-gammonish positions like this one. I saw
    this position as being very far from a double for money and
    did not think about redoubling. However, XG thinks it's time
    to turn the cube.

    Analyzed in Rollout
    No redouble
    Player Winning Chances: 68.58% (G:3.28% B:0.05%)
    Opponent Winning Chances: 31.43% (G:11.47% B:0.15%)
    Redouble/Take
    Player Winning Chances: 69.41% (G:3.49% B:0.07%)
    Opponent Winning Chances: 30.59% (G:12.09% B:0.24%)

    Cubeful Equities:
    No redouble: +0.683 (-0.053)
    Redouble/Take: +0.737
    Redouble/Pass: +1.000 (+0.263)

    Best Cube action: Redouble / Take

    Rollout:
    1296 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
    Dice Seed: 271828
    Moves: 3-ply, cube decisions: XG Roller
    Confidence No Double: ± 0.008 (+0.676..+0.691)
    Confidence Double: ± 0.010 (+0.727..+0.747)

    eXtreme Gammon Version: 2.19.207.pre-release, MET: Kazaross XG2

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    Money
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    XGID=---BaBC-B-B--AA--A--Accec-:1:1:1:00:0:0:0:0:10

    X:Player 1 O:Player 2
    Score is X:0 O:0. Unlimited Game
    +13-14-15-16-17-18------19-20-21-22-23-24-+
    | X X X | | X O O O O |
    | | | O O O O |
    | | | O O O O |
    | | | O |
    | | | O |
    | |BAR| |
    | | | |
    | | | |
    | | | X | +---+
    | X X | | X X X | | 2 |
    | X X | | X X O X | +---+
    +12-11-10--9--8--7-------6--5--4--3--2--1-+
    Pip count X: 134 O: 55 X-O: 0-0
    Cube: 2, X own cube
    X on roll, cube action

    Analyzed in Rollout
    No redouble
    Player Winning Chances: 68.14% (G:3.54% B:0.07%)
    Opponent Winning Chances: 31.86% (G:10.64% B:0.04%)
    Redouble/Take
    Player Winning Chances: 68.65% (G:3.77% B:0.10%)
    Opponent Winning Chances: 31.35% (G:9.99% B:0.04%)

    Cubeful Equities:
    No redouble: +0.619
    Redouble/Take: +0.530 (-0.089)
    Redouble/Pass: +1.000 (+0.381)

    Best Cube action: No redouble / Take
    Percentage of wrong pass needed to make the double decision right: 15.9%

    Rollout:
    1296 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
    Dice Seed: 271828
    Moves: 3-ply, cube decisions: XG Roller
    Confidence No Double: ± 0.008 (+0.611..+0.627)
    Confidence Double: ± 0.013 (+0.517..+0.543)

    eXtreme Gammon Version: 2.19.207.pre-release

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    Tim Chow

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  • From Timothy Chow@21:1/5 to All on Sun Sep 25 08:18:05 2022
    XGID=a--ACBBB-----A---A-BA-bcf-:1:1:1:00:2:2:0:7:10

    X:Player 1 O:Player 2
    Score is X:2 O:2 7 pt.(s) match.
    +13-14-15-16-17-18------19-20-21-22-23-24-+
    | X X | | X X O O O |
    | | | X O O O |
    | | | O O |
    | | | O |
    | | | 6 |
    | |BAR| |
    | | O | |
    | | | |
    | | | X | +---+
    | X | | X X X | | 2 |
    | X | | X X X X | +---+
    +12-11-10--9--8--7-------6--5--4--3--2--1-+
    Pip count X: 139 O: 43 X-O: 2-2/7
    Cube: 2, X own cube
    X on roll, cube action

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  • From ah...Clem@21:1/5 to Timothy Chow on Sun Sep 25 16:25:59 2022
    On 9/25/2022 8:18 AM, Timothy Chow wrote:
    XGID=a--ACBBB-----A---A-BA-bcf-:1:1:1:00:2:2:0:7:10

    X:Player 1   O:Player 2
    Score is X:2 O:2 7 pt.(s) match.  +13-14-15-16-17-18------19-20-21-22-23-24-+
     | X           X    |   | X  X     O  O  O |  |                  |   | X        O  O  O |  |                  |   |             O  O |  |                  |   |                O |
     |                  |   |                6 |
     |                  |BAR|                  |
     |                  | O |                  |
     |                  |   |                  |
     |                  |   |       X          | +---+
     |                X |   | X  X  X          | | 2 |
     |                X |   | X  X  X  X       | +---+  +12-11-10--9--8--7-------6--5--4--3--2--1-+
    Pip count  X: 139  O: 43 X-O: 2-2/7
    Cube: 2, X own cube
    X on roll, cube action

    O doesn't lose many gammons, so her takepoint is something like 24%,
    which she looks to have due to the race. Are there market losers? Not
    really seeing any. If there were any gammon chances I'd hold, and
    perhaps it's a hold here since O may turn this around quickly.

    But I'd ship it. Some will pass, and it may even be a pass.

    R/T

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  • From Timothy Chow@21:1/5 to All on Tue Sep 27 08:29:30 2022
    XGID=a--ACBBB-----A---A-BA-bcf-:1:1:1:00:2:2:0:7:10

    X:Player 1 O:Player 2
    Score is X:2 O:2 7 pt.(s) match.
    +13-14-15-16-17-18------19-20-21-22-23-24-+
    | X X | | X X O O O |
    | | | X O O O |
    | | | O O |
    | | | O |
    | | | 6 |
    | |BAR| |
    | | O | |
    | | | |
    | | | X | +---+
    | X | | X X X | | 2 |
    | X | | X X X X | +---+
    +12-11-10--9--8--7-------6--5--4--3--2--1-+
    Pip count X: 139 O: 43 X-O: 2-2/7
    Cube: 2, X own cube
    X on roll, cube action

    O has only three checkers off, so X needs to double well before
    he closes out O, but I judged that I wasn't going to lose my
    market unless I made a five-prime and O danced, so I decided
    not to double. According to XG, my reasoning would have been
    roughly correct for money, but what I had neglected was that
    ATS, O's gammon value on a 4-cube is low, so X doesn't have to
    worry as much about being gammoned, and should double more
    aggressively in containment positions such as this one.

    Analyzed in Rollout
    No redouble
    Player Winning Chances: 73.51% (G:0.00% B:0.00%)
    Opponent Winning Chances: 26.49% (G:11.66% B:0.34%)
    Redouble/Take
    Player Winning Chances: 74.25% (G:0.00% B:0.00%)
    Opponent Winning Chances: 25.75% (G:11.87% B:0.56%)

    Cubeful Equities:
    No redouble: +0.825 (-0.104)
    Redouble/Take: +0.930
    Redouble/Pass: +1.000 (+0.070)

    Best Cube action: Redouble / Take

    Rollout:
    1296 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
    Dice Seed: 271828
    Moves: 3-ply, cube decisions: XG Roller
    Confidence No Double: ± 0.006 (+0.819..+0.831)
    Confidence Double: ± 0.009 (+0.921..+0.939)

    eXtreme Gammon Version: 2.19.207.pre-release, MET: Kazaross XG2

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    Money
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    XGID=a--ACBBB-----A---A-BA-bcf-:1:1:1:00:0:0:0:0:10

    Score is X:0 O:0. Unlimited Game
    +13-14-15-16-17-18------19-20-21-22-23-24-+
    | X X | | X X O O O |
    | | | X O O O |
    | | | O O |
    | | | O |
    | | | 6 |
    | |BAR| |
    | | O | |
    | | | |
    | | | X | +---+
    | X | | X X X | | 2 |
    | X | | X X X X | +---+
    +12-11-10--9--8--7-------6--5--4--3--2--1-+
    Pip count X: 139 O: 43 X-O: 0-0
    Cube: 2, X own cube
    X on roll, cube action

    Analyzed in Rollout
    No redouble
    Player Winning Chances: 73.93% (G:0.00% B:0.00%)
    Opponent Winning Chances: 26.07% (G:11.22% B:0.13%)
    Redouble/Take
    Player Winning Chances: 74.37% (G:0.00% B:0.00%)
    Opponent Winning Chances: 25.63% (G:10.89% B:0.13%)

    Cubeful Equities:
    No redouble: +0.742
    Redouble/Take: +0.665 (-0.076)
    Redouble/Pass: +1.000 (+0.258)

    Best Cube action: No redouble / Take
    Percentage of wrong pass needed to make the double decision right: 22.8%

    Rollout:
    1296 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
    Dice Seed: 271828
    Moves: 3-ply, cube decisions: XG Roller
    Confidence No Double: ± 0.008 (+0.734..+0.749)
    Confidence Double: ± 0.012 (+0.654..+0.677)

    eXtreme Gammon Version: 2.19.211.pre-release

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    Tim Chow

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