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  • This position does _not_ contradict Stick's rule

    From pepstein5@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 11 18:35:33 2022
    Here, the DMP play is obvious but slightly wrong for money.
    I don't see this as a counterexample to Stick's DMP rule though,
    because I don't think it's intended for bearing off against contact,
    although he might not have said so explicitly.
    In this type of position, there's a tendency among non-experts to
    play too safe -- so it's kind of an anti-DMP position.

    Paul

    XGID=bCBBDB-----------b-cbb-bb-:2:-1:1:44:21:6:3:0:10
    X:Daniel O:eXtremeGammon

    Score is X:21 O:6. Unlimited Game, Jacoby Beaver
    +13-14-15-16-17-18------19-20-21-22-23-24-+
    | O | | O O O O O | +---+
    | O | | O O O O O | | 4 |
    | | | O | +---+
    | | | |
    | | | |
    | |BAR| |
    | | O | |
    | | O | X |
    | | | X X |
    | | | X X X X X |
    | | | X X X X X |
    +12-11-10--9--8--7-------6--5--4--3--2--1-+
    Pip count X: 39 O: 108 X-O: 21-6
    Cube: 4, O own cube
    X to play 44

    1. XG Roller+ 4/Off(4) eq:+1.714
    Player: 95.62% (G:78.48% B:3.25%)
    Opponent: 4.38% (G:0.00% B:0.00%)

    2. XG Roller+ 5/1(2) 4/Off(2) eq:+1.681 (-0.033)
    Player: 98.38% (G:71.13% B:0.83%)
    Opponent: 1.62% (G:0.00% B:0.00%)

    3. 1-ply 5/1 4/Off(3) eq:+0.308 (-1.406)
    Player: 55.62% (G:34.32% B:0.91%)
    Opponent: 44.38% (G:0.00% B:0.00%)


    eXtreme Gammon Version: 2.10

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  • From Nasti Chestikov@21:1/5 to peps...@gmail.com on Sat Feb 12 10:02:11 2022
    On Saturday, 12 February 2022 at 02:35:34 UTC, peps...@gmail.com wrote:
    Here, the DMP play is obvious but slightly wrong for money.
    I don't see this as a counterexample to Stick's DMP rule though,
    because I don't think it's intended for bearing off against contact,
    although he might not have said so explicitly.
    In this type of position, there's a tendency among non-experts to
    play too safe -- so it's kind of an anti-DMP position.

    Paul

    XGID=bCBBDB-----------b-cbb-bb-:2:-1:1:44:21:6:3:0:10
    X:Daniel O:eXtremeGammon

    Score is X:21 O:6. Unlimited Game, Jacoby Beaver +13-14-15-16-17-18------19-20-21-22-23-24-+
    | O | | O O O O O | +---+
    | O | | O O O O O | | 4 |
    | | | O | +---+
    | | | |
    | | | |
    | |BAR| |
    | | O | |
    | | O | X |
    | | | X X |
    | | | X X X X X |
    | | | X X X X X |
    +12-11-10--9--8--7-------6--5--4--3--2--1-+
    Pip count X: 39 O: 108 X-O: 21-6
    Cube: 4, O own cube
    X to play 44

    1. XG Roller+ 4/Off(4) eq:+1.714
    Player: 95.62% (G:78.48% B:3.25%)
    Opponent: 4.38% (G:0.00% B:0.00%)

    2. XG Roller+ 5/1(2) 4/Off(2) eq:+1.681 (-0.033)
    Player: 98.38% (G:71.13% B:0.83%)
    Opponent: 1.62% (G:0.00% B:0.00%)

    3. 1-ply 5/1 4/Off(3) eq:+0.308 (-1.406)
    Player: 55.62% (G:34.32% B:0.91%)
    Opponent: 44.38% (G:0.00% B:0.00%)


    eXtreme Gammon Version: 2.10

    For those of us who aren't familiar with "Stick", please enlighten us as to what, or who, "Stick" is?

    You refer to it frequently, is he/she a God like creature in Backgammon circles?

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  • From Timothy Chow@21:1/5 to Nasti Chestikov on Sat Feb 12 14:41:45 2022
    On 2/12/2022 1:02 PM, Nasti Chestikov wrote:
    For those of us who aren't familiar with "Stick", please enlighten us as to what, or who, "Stick" is?

    You refer to it frequently, is he/she a God like creature in Backgammon circles?

    Can't even keep track of what your own sock puppets know
    and don't know. Tsk tsk, Murat.

    https://groups.google.com/g/rec.games.backgammon/c/--0PVsgcDN4/m/HzYiZf_nAgAJ

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    Tim Chow

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