• XG 3-ply triple whopper

    From Timothy Chow@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jan 24 08:39:01 2022
    It is well known that XG doesn't play complicated containment
    positions very well. Still, the position below seemed "simple"
    enough that I didn't expect XG 3-ply to play 19/14 17/14, but
    it did.

    In the rollout below, I'm including only a few selected plays;
    I'm including 19/14 15/12 because that's the play with the
    highest XG 3-ply evaluation.

    XGID=aBBBBB--------AA-A-Bc-adf-:1:1:1:53:0:0:0:7:10

    X:Player 2 O:Player 1
    Score is X:0 O:0 7 pt.(s) match.
    +13-14-15-16-17-18------19-20-21-22-23-24-+
    | X X X | | X O O O O |
    | | | X O O O |
    | | | O O O |
    | | | O O |
    | | | 6 |
    | |BAR| |
    | | O | |
    | | | |
    | | | | +---+
    | | | X X X X X | | 2 |
    | | | X X X X X | +---+
    +12-11-10--9--8--7-------6--5--4--3--2--1-+
    Pip count X: 114 O: 57 X-O: 0-0/7
    Cube: 2, X own cube
    X to play 53

    1. Rollout¹ 17/12 15/12 eq:+0.865
    Player: 73.82% (G:4.86% B:0.14%)
    Opponent: 26.18% (G:8.04% B:0.09%)
    Confidence: ±0.011 (+0.853..+0.876) - [99.5%]

    2. Rollout¹ 17/12 14/11 eq:+0.844 (-0.021)
    Player: 73.07% (G:5.04% B:0.21%)
    Opponent: 26.93% (G:10.03% B:0.03%)
    Confidence: ±0.010 (+0.834..+0.854) - [0.5%]

    3. Rollout¹ 19/14 15/12 eq:+0.706 (-0.159)
    Player: 70.16% (G:4.34% B:0.17%)
    Opponent: 29.84% (G:8.56% B:0.10%)
    Confidence: ±0.014 (+0.692..+0.719) - [0.0%]

    4. Rollout¹ 19/14 17/14 eq:+0.544 (-0.321)
    Player: 63.51% (G:4.45% B:0.17%)
    Opponent: 36.49% (G:7.73% B:0.06%)
    Confidence: ±0.015 (+0.529..+0.558) - [0.0%]

    ¹ 1296 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
    Dice Seed: 271828
    Moves: 3-ply, cube decisions: XG Roller

    eXtreme Gammon Version: 2.19.207.pre-release, MET: Kazaross XG2

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    Tim Chow

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  • From Timothy Chow@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jan 24 09:48:43 2022
    On 1/24/2022 8:39 AM, I wrote:

        1. Rollout¹    17/12 15/12                  eq:+0.865
        4. Rollout¹    19/14 17/14                  eq:+0.544 (-0.321)

    Oh, by the way, I have a question for Zorba: Does anyone call this sort
    of thing a "double whopper"? If someone were to do so, I would assume
    that they had a different definition of "whopper" in mind, but maybe
    not.

    Related question: Don't people sometimes say things like, "whopper or
    worse" or "double whopper or worse"? I seem to recall seeing things
    like that, although I don't recall specific examples offhand.

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    Tim Chow

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