• Don't you hate 52?

    From Timothy Chow@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jan 9 22:23:15 2022
    XGID=--A-abECBB--aB-a---cbabb--:1:-1:1:52:0:0:0:0:10

    X:Player 1 O:Player 2
    Score is X:0 O:0. Unlimited Game
    +13-14-15-16-17-18------19-20-21-22-23-24-+
    | X O | | O O O O O | +---+
    | X | | O O O O | | 2 |
    | | | O | +---+
    | | | |
    | | | |
    | |BAR| |
    | | | X |
    | | | X |
    | X | | X |
    | X X X | | X O |
    | O X X X | | X O O X |
    +12-11-10--9--8--7-------6--5--4--3--2--1-+
    Pip count X: 113 O: 126 X-O: 0-0
    Cube: 2, O own cube
    X to play 52

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    Tim Chow

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  • From Timothy Chow@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jan 11 18:12:53 2022
    XGID=--A-abECBB--aB-a---cbabb--:1:-1:1:52:0:0:0:0:10

    X:Player 1 O:Player 2
    Score is X:0 O:0. Unlimited Game
    +13-14-15-16-17-18------19-20-21-22-23-24-+
    | X O | | O O O O O | +---+
    | X | | O O O O | | 2 |
    | | | O | +---+
    | | | |
    | | | |
    | |BAR| |
    | | | X |
    | | | X |
    | X | | X |
    | X X X | | X O |
    | O X X X | | X O O X |
    +12-11-10--9--8--7-------6--5--4--3--2--1-+
    Pip count X: 113 O: 126 X-O: 0-0
    Cube: 2, O own cube
    X to play 52

    52 is probably X's unluckiest roll in this position. The general
    principle in this type of holding game, where X has a comfortable
    lead in the pip count and a significantly weaker board, is to play
    safe. But 8/6 8/3 looked very awkward to me and O does have a blot
    in her board, so I tried 9/4*/2. That might be the gammon go play,
    but not at a normal score, according to the rollout below.

    1. Rollout¹ 8/6 8/3 eq:+0.295
    Player: 68.18% (G:3.78% B:0.04%)
    Opponent: 31.82% (G:2.37% B:0.05%)
    Confidence: ±0.006 (+0.289..+0.301) - [100.0%]

    2. Rollout¹ 9/4* 4/2 eq:+0.155 (-0.140)
    Player: 63.00% (G:8.60% B:0.58%)
    Opponent: 37.00% (G:9.45% B:0.22%)
    Confidence: ±0.007 (+0.148..+0.162) - [0.0%]

    3. Rollout¹ 7/2 6/4* eq:+0.046 (-0.249)
    Player: 60.87% (G:8.06% B:0.25%)
    Opponent: 39.13% (G:12.45% B:0.18%)
    Confidence: ±0.008 (+0.038..+0.054) - [0.0%]

    ¹ 1296 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
    Dice Seed: 271828
    Moves: 3-ply, cube decisions: XG Roller

    eXtreme Gammon Version: 2.19.207.pre-release

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    Tim Chow

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  • From J R@21:1/5 to Tim Chow on Wed Jan 12 17:38:27 2022
    On Tuesday, January 11, 2022 at 6:12:59 PM UTC-5, Tim Chow wrote:
    XGID=--A-abECBB--aB-a---cbabb--:1:-1:1:52:0:0:0:0:10

    X:Player 1 O:Player 2
    Score is X:0 O:0. Unlimited Game
    +13-14-15-16-17-18------19-20-21-22-23-24-+
    | X O | | O O O O O | +---+
    | X | | O O O O | | 2 |
    | | | O | +---+
    | | | |
    | | | |
    | |BAR| |
    | | | X |
    | | | X |
    | X | | X |
    | X X X | | X O |
    | O X X X | | X O O X |
    +12-11-10--9--8--7-------6--5--4--3--2--1-+
    Pip count X: 113 O: 126 X-O: 0-0
    Cube: 2, O own cube
    X to play 52
    52 is probably X's unluckiest roll in this position. The general
    principle in this type of holding game, where X has a comfortable
    lead in the pip count and a significantly weaker board, is to play
    safe. But 8/6 8/3 looked very awkward to me and O does have a blot
    in her board, so I tried 9/4*/2. That might be the gammon go play,
    but not at a normal score, according to the rollout below.

    1. Rollout¹ 8/6 8/3 eq:+0.295
    Player: 68.18% (G:3.78% B:0.04%)
    Opponent: 31.82% (G:2.37% B:0.05%)
    Confidence: ±0.006 (+0.289..+0.301) - [100.0%]

    2. Rollout¹ 9/4* 4/2 eq:+0.155 (-0.140)
    Player: 63.00% (G:8.60% B:0.58%)
    Opponent: 37.00% (G:9.45% B:0.22%)
    Confidence: ±0.007 (+0.148..+0.162) - [0.0%]

    3. Rollout¹ 7/2 6/4* eq:+0.046 (-0.249)
    Player: 60.87% (G:8.06% B:0.25%)
    Opponent: 39.13% (G:12.45% B:0.18%)
    Confidence: ±0.008 (+0.038..+0.054) - [0.0%]

    ¹ 1296 Games rolled with Variance Reduction.
    Dice Seed: 271828
    Moves: 3-ply, cube decisions: XG Roller

    eXtreme Gammon Version: 2.19.207.pre-release

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    Tim Chow

    [21] is the 'unluckiest' roll in this position.

    At pure gammon go the safe play is still correct by the smallest of margins.

    Stick

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