• RQFTCIWSSSG12 Game 4, Rounds 2-3: professions, CanLit

    From Mark Brader@21:1/5 to All on Tue May 31 16:00:21 2022
    These questions were written to be asked in Toronto on 2012-05-28,
    and should be interpreted accordingly. All questions were written
    by members of What She Said and/or of Smith & Guessin', but have
    been reformatted and may have been retyped and/or edited by me.
    I will reveal the correct answers in about 3 days.

    For further information, including an explanation of the """
    notation that may appear in these rounds, see my 2021-07-20
    companion posting on "Reposted Questions from the Canadian
    Inquisition (RQFTCI*)".


    * Game 4, Round 1 - Current Events (excerpt)

    Answer these 2012 questions if you like for fun, but for no points.

    1. Another product has been decried by the US Federal Trade
    Commission for making deceptive health claims -- for example,
    that it fought prostate cancer, heart disease, and erectile
    dysfunction. This product entered North American markets in
    2002 with a premium price and distinctive packaging. Give the
    product's brand name or just name its main ingredient.

    2. Now even the Pope can say "The butler did it". Why was Paolo
    Gabriele, the Pope's butler, arrested this week?


    * Game 4, Round 2 - History - The Older Professions

    Not *the* oldest, but certainly older profession names. We give
    several titles for the *same job*; you tell what that person does.
    For example, if we said "wainwright", the answer would be "wagon
    maker".

    1. Redsmith, aurifaber.
    2. Kneller, sweep, punky.
    3. Fletcher, tipper, piler.
    4. Dexter, tinctor, litster.
    5. Verger, sexton, barton, bedman.
    6. Webster, tapiter, tapicer, tixtor.
    7. Furner, pistor, backsmann, baxter.
    8. Trampler, stuff gownsman, pettifogger.
    9. Tranqueter, cooper, woodbreaker, backmaker.
    10. Laster, shuster, theemaker, vamper, souter.


    * Game 4, Round 3 - Canadiana Literature - Toronto Writers

    All of these writers have lived much or all of their lives
    in Toronto. We name two or three books; you name the writer.
    We've even kindly provided a cheat sheet:

    Ian Adams Hugh Garner Peter C. Newman
    Margaret Atwood Phyllis Gotleib Michael Ondaatje
    Mel Bradshaw Katherine Govier Andrew Pyper
    Austin Clarke Sandra Gulland Paul Quarrington
    John Robert Colombo Lawrence Hill Michael Redhill
    Robertson Davies Anne Ireland Nino Ricci
    Cory Doctorow Guy Gavriel Kay Peter Robinson
    Jill Edmondson Anne-Marie MacDonald Robert J. Sawyer
    Howard Engel Rosemary McCracken Susan Swan
    Marian Engel Judith Merril Margaret Visser
    Northrop Frye Anne Michaels Bob Ward
    Mavis Gallant Rohinton Mistry

    1. "Cabbagetown", "Death in Don Mills".
    2. "Such a Long Journey", "A Fine Balance".
    3. "Lunatic Villas", "The Glassy Sea", "Bear".
    4. "Black Berry", "Sweet Juice", "The Book of Negroes".
    5. "The Polished Hoe", "Growing Up Stupid under the Union Jack".
    6. "The Neanderthal Parallax", "Calculating God", "Flashforward".
    7. "Fables of Brunswick Avenue", "The Ghost Brush", "Angel Walk".
    8. "From the Fifteenth District", "Home Truths", "Paris Notebooks".
    9. "Fall on Your Knees", "Goodnight Desdemona (Good Morning
    Juliet)".
    10. "Anatomy of Criticism", "the Well-Tempered Critic", "The
    Educated Imagination".

    --
    Mark Brader | "Mine are the correct [theories], but other observers...
    Toronto | offer differing hypotheses which they stubbornly
    msb@vex.net | refuse to abandon." --Algis Budrys

    My text in this article is in the public domain.

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  • From Joshua Kreitzer@21:1/5 to Mark Brader on Tue May 31 18:08:20 2022
    On Tuesday, May 31, 2022 at 4:00:27 PM UTC-5, Mark Brader wrote:

    * Game 4, Round 2 - History - The Older Professions

    Not *the* oldest, but certainly older profession names. We give
    several titles for the *same job*; you tell what that person does.
    For example, if we said "wainwright", the answer would be "wagon
    maker".

    1. Redsmith, aurifaber.

    goldsmith

    3. Fletcher, tipper, piler.

    arrow maker

    5. Verger, sexton, barton, bedman.

    janitor

    6. Webster, tapiter, tapicer, tixtor.

    clothmaker

    8. Trampler, stuff gownsman, pettifogger.

    lawyer

    9. Tranqueter, cooper, woodbreaker, backmaker.

    barrelmaker

    * Game 4, Round 3 - Canadiana Literature - Toronto Writers

    All of these writers have lived much or all of their lives
    in Toronto. We name two or three books; you name the writer.
    We've even kindly provided a cheat sheet:

    Ian Adams Hugh Garner Peter C. Newman
    Margaret Atwood Phyllis Gotleib Michael Ondaatje
    Mel Bradshaw Katherine Govier Andrew Pyper
    Austin Clarke Sandra Gulland Paul Quarrington
    John Robert Colombo Lawrence Hill Michael Redhill
    Robertson Davies Anne Ireland Nino Ricci
    Cory Doctorow Guy Gavriel Kay Peter Robinson
    Jill Edmondson Anne-Marie MacDonald Robert J. Sawyer
    Howard Engel Rosemary McCracken Susan Swan
    Marian Engel Judith Merril Margaret Visser
    Northrop Frye Anne Michaels Bob Ward
    Mavis Gallant Rohinton Mistry

    1. "Cabbagetown", "Death in Don Mills".

    Phyllis Gotleib; Mel Bradshaw

    2. "Such a Long Journey", "A Fine Balance".

    Katherine Govier; Andrew Pyper

    3. "Lunatic Villas", "The Glassy Sea", "Bear".

    Austin Clarke; Sandra Gulland

    4. "Black Berry", "Sweet Juice", "The Book of Negroes".

    Rohinton Mistry; Ian Adams

    5. "The Polished Hoe", "Growing Up Stupid under the Union Jack".

    Hugh Garner; Peter C. Newman

    6. "The Neanderthal Parallax", "Calculating God", "Flashforward".

    Robert J. Sawyer

    7. "Fables of Brunswick Avenue", "The Ghost Brush", "Angel Walk".

    Howard Engel; Rosemary McCracken

    8. "From the Fifteenth District", "Home Truths", "Paris Notebooks".

    Susan Swan; Marian Engel

    9. "Fall on Your Knees", "Goodnight Desdemona (Good Morning
    Juliet)".

    Margaret Visser; Anne Michaels

    10. "Anatomy of Criticism", "the Well-Tempered Critic", "The
    Educated Imagination".

    Northrop Frye

    --
    Joshua Kreitzer
    gromit82@hotmail.com

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  • From Dan Blum@21:1/5 to Mark Brader on Wed Jun 1 02:12:54 2022
    Mark Brader <msb@vex.net> wrote:

    * Game 4, Round 2 - History - The Older Professions

    1. Redsmith, aurifaber.

    makes objects out of gold

    2. Kneller, sweep, punky.

    rings church bells

    3. Fletcher, tipper, piler.

    makes arrows

    4. Dexter, tinctor, litster.

    paints signs

    5. Verger, sexton, barton, bedman.

    looks after a church's physical plant

    6. Webster, tapiter, tapicer, tixtor.

    makes nets

    8. Trampler, stuff gownsman, pettifogger.

    practices law

    9. Tranqueter, cooper, woodbreaker, backmaker.

    makes barrels

    10. Laster, shuster, theemaker, vamper, souter.

    makes shoes

    * Game 4, Round 3 - Canadiana Literature - Toronto Writers

    3. "Lunatic Villas", "The Glassy Sea", "Bear".

    Marian Engel

    6. "The Neanderthal Parallax", "Calculating God", "Flashforward".

    Robert J. Sawyer

    10. "Anatomy of Criticism", "the Well-Tempered Critic", "The
    Educated Imagination".

    Northrop Frye

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    _______________________________________________________________________
    Dan Blum tool@panix.com
    "I wouldn't have believed it myself if I hadn't just made it up."

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  • From swp@21:1/5 to Mark Brader on Thu Jun 2 19:43:18 2022
    On Tuesday, May 31, 2022 at 5:00:27 PM UTC-4, Mark Brader wrote:
    These questions were written to be asked in Toronto on 2012-05-28,
    and should be interpreted accordingly. All questions were written
    by members of What She Said and/or of Smith & Guessin', but have
    been reformatted and may have been retyped and/or edited by me.
    I will reveal the correct answers in about 3 days.

    For further information, including an explanation of the """
    notation that may appear in these rounds, see my 2021-07-20
    companion posting on "Reposted Questions from the Canadian
    Inquisition (RQFTCI*)".


    * Game 4, Round 1 - Current Events (excerpt)

    Answer these 2012 questions if you like for fun, but for no points.

    1. Another product has been decried by the US Federal Trade
    Commission for making deceptive health claims -- for example,
    that it fought prostate cancer, heart disease, and erectile
    dysfunction. This product entered North American markets in
    2002 with a premium price and distinctive packaging. Give the
    product's brand name or just name its main ingredient.

    pom wonderful

    2. Now even the Pope can say "The butler did it". Why was Paolo
    Gabriele, the Pope's butler, arrested this week?

    he stole files and leaked them to the press


    * Game 4, Round 2 - History - The Older Professions

    Not *the* oldest, but certainly older profession names. We give
    several titles for the *same job*; you tell what that person does.
    For example, if we said "wainwright", the answer would be "wagon
    maker".

    1. Redsmith, aurifaber.

    goldsmith

    2. Kneller, sweep, punky.

    chimney cleaner

    3. Fletcher, tipper, piler.

    arrow maker

    4. Dexter, tinctor, litster.

    cloth dyer

    5. Verger, sexton, barton, bedman.

    non-priest church worker

    6. Webster, tapiter, tapicer, tixtor.

    weaver

    7. Furner, pistor, backsmann, baxter.

    baker

    8. Trampler, stuff gownsman, pettifogger.

    lawyer

    9. Tranqueter, cooper, woodbreaker, backmaker.

    barrel maker

    10. Laster, shuster, theemaker, vamper, souter.

    shoe maker



    * Game 4, Round 3 - Canadiana Literature - Toronto Writers

    All of these writers have lived much or all of their lives
    in Toronto. We name two or three books; you name the writer.
    We've even kindly provided a cheat sheet:

    Ian Adams Hugh Garner Peter C. Newman
    Margaret Atwood Phyllis Gotleib Michael Ondaatje
    Mel Bradshaw Katherine Govier Andrew Pyper
    Austin Clarke Sandra Gulland Paul Quarrington
    John Robert Colombo Lawrence Hill Michael Redhill
    Robertson Davies Anne Ireland Nino Ricci
    Cory Doctorow Guy Gavriel Kay Peter Robinson
    Jill Edmondson Anne-Marie MacDonald Robert J. Sawyer
    Howard Engel Rosemary McCracken Susan Swan
    Marian Engel Judith Merril Margaret Visser
    Northrop Frye Anne Michaels Bob Ward
    Mavis Gallant Rohinton Mistry

    1. "Cabbagetown", "Death in Don Mills".

    hugh garner

    2. "Such a Long Journey", "A Fine Balance".

    rohinton mistry

    3. "Lunatic Villas", "The Glassy Sea", "Bear".

    marian engel

    4. "Black Berry", "Sweet Juice", "The Book of Negroes".

    lawrence hill

    5. "The Polished Hoe", "Growing Up Stupid under the Union Jack".

    austin clarke

    6. "The Neanderthal Parallax", "Calculating God", "Flashforward".

    robert j sawyer

    7. "Fables of Brunswick Avenue", "The Ghost Brush", "Angel Walk".

    katherine govier

    8. "From the Fifteenth District", "Home Truths", "Paris Notebooks".

    mavis gallant

    9. "Fall on Your Knees", "Goodnight Desdemona (Good Morning
    Juliet)".

    anne-marie macdonald

    10. "Anatomy of Criticism", "the Well-Tempered Critic", "The
    Educated Imagination".

    northrop frye


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    m...@vex.net | refuse to abandon." --Algis Budrys

    My text in this article is in the public domain.

    swp, who thanks the various members, both past and present, of the canadian inquisition for good reading suggestions

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  • From Pete Gayde@21:1/5 to Mark Brader on Fri Jun 3 17:25:42 2022
    Mark Brader wrote:
    These questions were written to be asked in Toronto on 2012-05-28,
    and should be interpreted accordingly. All questions were written
    by members of What She Said and/or of Smith & Guessin', but have
    been reformatted and may have been retyped and/or edited by me.
    I will reveal the correct answers in about 3 days.

    For further information, including an explanation of the """
    notation that may appear in these rounds, see my 2021-07-20
    companion posting on "Reposted Questions from the Canadian
    Inquisition (RQFTCI*)".


    * Game 4, Round 1 - Current Events (excerpt)

    Answer these 2012 questions if you like for fun, but for no points.

    1. Another product has been decried by the US Federal Trade
    Commission for making deceptive health claims -- for example,
    that it fought prostate cancer, heart disease, and erectile
    dysfunction. This product entered North American markets in
    2002 with a premium price and distinctive packaging. Give the
    product's brand name or just name its main ingredient.

    2. Now even the Pope can say "The butler did it". Why was Paolo
    Gabriele, the Pope's butler, arrested this week?


    * Game 4, Round 2 - History - The Older Professions

    Not *the* oldest, but certainly older profession names. We give
    several titles for the *same job*; you tell what that person does.
    For example, if we said "wainwright", the answer would be "wagon
    maker".

    1. Redsmith, aurifaber.
    2. Kneller, sweep, punky.

    Chimney cleaner

    3. Fletcher, tipper, piler.
    4. Dexter, tinctor, litster.

    Pharmacist

    5. Verger, sexton, barton, bedman.
    6. Webster, tapiter, tapicer, tixtor.
    7. Furner, pistor, backsmann, baxter.
    8. Trampler, stuff gownsman, pettifogger.
    9. Tranqueter, cooper, woodbreaker, backmaker.

    Barrel maker

    10. Laster, shuster, theemaker, vamper, souter.

    Shoemaker



    * Game 4, Round 3 - Canadiana Literature - Toronto Writers

    All of these writers have lived much or all of their lives
    in Toronto. We name two or three books; you name the writer.
    We've even kindly provided a cheat sheet:

    Ian Adams Hugh Garner Peter C. Newman
    Margaret Atwood Phyllis Gotleib Michael Ondaatje
    Mel Bradshaw Katherine Govier Andrew Pyper
    Austin Clarke Sandra Gulland Paul Quarrington
    John Robert Colombo Lawrence Hill Michael Redhill
    Robertson Davies Anne Ireland Nino Ricci
    Cory Doctorow Guy Gavriel Kay Peter Robinson
    Jill Edmondson Anne-Marie MacDonald Robert J. Sawyer
    Howard Engel Rosemary McCracken Susan Swan
    Marian Engel Judith Merril Margaret Visser
    Northrop Frye Anne Michaels Bob Ward
    Mavis Gallant Rohinton Mistry

    1. "Cabbagetown", "Death in Don Mills".
    2. "Such a Long Journey", "A Fine Balance".
    3. "Lunatic Villas", "The Glassy Sea", "Bear".
    4. "Black Berry", "Sweet Juice", "The Book of Negroes".
    5. "The Polished Hoe", "Growing Up Stupid under the Union Jack".
    6. "The Neanderthal Parallax", "Calculating God", "Flashforward".
    7. "Fables of Brunswick Avenue", "The Ghost Brush", "Angel Walk".
    8. "From the Fifteenth District", "Home Truths", "Paris Notebooks".
    9. "Fall on Your Knees", "Goodnight Desdemona (Good Morning
    Juliet)".
    10. "Anatomy of Criticism", "the Well-Tempered Critic", "The
    Educated Imagination".


    Pete Gayde

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  • From Mark Brader@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jun 3 23:34:00 2022
    Mark Brader:
    These questions were written to be asked in Toronto on 2012-05-28,
    and should be interpreted accordingly... For further information...
    see my 2021-07-20 companion posting on "Reposted Questions from
    the Canadian Inquisition (RQFTCI*)".


    * Game 4, Round 1 - Current Events (excerpt)

    Answer these 2012 questions if you like for fun, but for no points.

    1. Another product has been decried by the US Federal Trade
    Commission for making deceptive health claims -- for example,
    that it fought prostate cancer, heart disease, and erectile
    dysfunction. This product entered North American markets in
    2002 with a premium price and distinctive packaging. Give the
    product's brand name or just name its main ingredient.

    POM Wonderful, pomegranate juice. Stephen got this.

    2. Now even the Pope can say "The butler did it". Why was Paolo
    Gabriele, the Pope's butler, arrested this week?

    For possessing secret documents. (Anything close was acceptable.)
    Stephen got this.


    * Game 4, Round 2 - History - The Older Professions

    Not *the* oldest, but certainly older profession names. We give
    several titles for the *same job*; you tell what that person does.
    For example, if we said "wainwright", the answer would be "wagon
    maker".

    1. Redsmith, aurifaber.

    Goldsmith was the originally expected answer. Wikipedia claims that
    "redsmith" relates to copper, which makes sense, and I haven't been
    able to find the word in actual dictionaries (including the OED).
    So I'm accepting goldsmith, coppersmith, or jeweler (since a goldsmith
    may make gold jewelry). 4 for Joshua, Dan, and Stephen.

    2. Kneller, sweep, punky.

    Cleans chimneys. 4 for Stephen and Pete.

    3. Fletcher, tipper, piler.

    Makes arrows. 4 for Joshua, Dan, and Stephen.

    4. Dexter, tinctor, litster.

    Dyes cloth. 4 for Stephen.

    5. Verger, sexton, barton, bedman.

    Worker in a church or parish (not a priest); accepting gravedigger.
    4 for Dan and Stephen.

    6. Webster, tapiter, tapicer, tixtor.

    Weaver. I accepted clothmaker. 4 for Joshua and Stephen.

    7. Furner, pistor, backsmann, baxter.

    Baker. 4 for Stephen.

    8. Trampler, stuff gownsman, pettifogger.

    Lawyer. 4 for Joshua, Dan, and Stephen.

    9. Tranqueter, cooper, woodbreaker, backmaker.

    Makes barrels. 4 for everyone -- Joshua, Dan, Stephen, and Pete.

    10. Laster, shuster, theemaker, vamper, souter.

    Makes shoes. 4 for Dan, Stephen, and Pete.


    * Game 4, Round 3 - Canadiana Literature - Toronto Writers

    All of these writers have lived much or all of their lives
    in Toronto. We name two or three books; you name the writer.
    We've even kindly provided a cheat sheet:

    Ian Adams Hugh Garner Peter C. Newman
    Margaret Atwood Phyllis Gotleib Michael Ondaatje
    Mel Bradshaw Katherine Govier Andrew Pyper
    Austin Clarke Sandra Gulland Paul Quarrington
    John Robert Colombo Lawrence Hill Michael Redhill
    Robertson Davies Anne Ireland Nino Ricci
    Cory Doctorow Guy Gavriel Kay Peter Robinson
    Jill Edmondson Anne-Marie MacDonald Robert J. Sawyer
    Howard Engel Rosemary McCracken Susan Swan
    Marian Engel Judith Merril Margaret Visser
    Northrop Frye Anne Michaels Bob Ward
    Mavis Gallant Rohinton Mistry

    All the people on the list are published authors, but five of them --
    Mel Bradshaw, Jill Edmondson, Rosemary McCracken, Robert J. Sawyer,
    and the late Paul Quarrington -- have also played in the Canadian
    Inquisition. Mel Bradshaw was still a regular player up to the COVID
    shutdown; the other three are past players. In Sawyer's 1990 novel
    "Golden Fleece", in a scene taking place in the year 2177 on an
    interstellar spaceship, one of the characters mentions the league
    by name and talks about playing again when he gets back to Earth.

    1. "Cabbagetown", "Death in Don Mills".

    Hugh Garner. 4 for Stephen.

    2. "Such a Long Journey", "A Fine Balance".

    Rohinton Mistry. 4 for Stephen.

    3. "Lunatic Villas", "The Glassy Sea", "Bear".

    Marian Engel. 4 for Dan and Stephen.

    4. "Black Berry", "Sweet Juice", "The Book of Negroes".

    Lawrence Hill. 4 for Stephen.

    5. "The Polished Hoe", "Growing Up Stupid under the Union Jack".

    Austin Clarke. 4 for Stephen.

    6. "The Neanderthal Parallax", "Calculating God", "Flashforward".

    Robert J. Sawyer. 4 for Joshua, Dan, and Stephen.

    7. "Fables of Brunswick Avenue", "The Ghost Brush", "Angel Walk".

    Katherine Govier. 4 for Stephen.

    8. "From the Fifteenth District", "Home Truths", "Paris Notebooks".

    Mavis Gallant. 4 for Stephen.

    9. "Fall on Your Knees", "Goodnight Desdemona (Good Morning
    Juliet)".

    Ann-Marie Macdonald. 4 for Stephen.

    10. "Anatomy of Criticism", "the Well-Tempered Critic", "The
    Educated Imagination".

    Northrop Frye. 4 for Joshua, Dan, and Stephen.


    Scores, if there are no errors:

    GAME 4 ROUNDS-> 7 8 2 3 TOTALS
    TOPICS-> Ent Mis His Can
    Stephen Perry 40 36 40 40 156
    Joshua Kreitzer 36 31 20 8 95
    Pete Gayde 16 32 12 0 60
    Dan Blum 4 19 24 12 59
    Erland Sommarskog 12 12 -- -- 24
    Dan Tilque 0 16 -- -- 16

    --
    Mark Brader, "It is impossible. Solution follows..."
    Toronto, msb@vex.net -- Richard Heathfield

    My text in this article is in the public domain.

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