• RQFTCIFFF12 Game 10, Rounds 4,6: CanGeo, CanInvent

    From Mark Brader@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 29 23:18:17 2022
    These questions were written to be asked in Toronto on 2012-04-02,
    and should be interpreted accordingly. All questions were written
    by members of Footloose and Firkin Free, but have been reformatted
    and may have been retyped and/or edited by me. I will reveal the
    correct answers in about 3 days.

    For further information, including an explanation of the """ notation
    that may appear in these rounds, see my 2021-07-20 companion posting
    on "Reposted Questions from the Canadian Inquisition (RQFTCI*)".


    * Game 10, Round 4 - Canadiana Geography - Prairie Towns

    Here <http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/10-04/prairie.png> is a map
    of the three prairie provinces. On each question we will provide
    you with the name of a city or town, and you give us the number
    of the corresponding circle on the map.

    1. Edmonton.
    2. Winnipeg.
    3. Prince Albert.
    4. Medicine Hat.
    5. Flin Flon.
    6. Swift Current.
    7. Fort McMurray.
    8. Red Deer.
    9. Brandon.
    10. Lloydminster.

    There were, obviously, 14 decoys. Decode the rot13 and give the
    numbers for these if you like for fun, but for no points.

    11. Calgary.
    12. Canmore.
    13. Churchill.
    14. Dauphin.
    15. Fort Chipewyan.
    16. Gimli.
    17. Grande Prairie.
    18. Jasper.
    19. La Ronge.
    20. Lethbridge.
    21. Portage la Prairie.
    22. Regina.
    23. Saskatoon.
    24. Thompson.


    * Game 10, Round 6 - Canadiana Science - Canadian Inventions

    1. This packaging was invented in 1911 by newspaper editor Joseph
    Coyle of Smithers, BC, to solve a dispute between a local farmer
    and hotel owner over the accidental breakage of a product being
    delivered from the farm to the hotel.

    2. This variant of a popular sport (or, to some, a game) was
    devised in the early 20th century by Thomas F. Ryan in Toronto.
    He developed it in response to customers who complained that
    the more standard version of the sport was too strenuous.
    This variant is still played almost exclusively in Canada.
    Be sufficiently specific.

    3. While working for Union Carbide in the 1950s, Canadian engineer
    Lewis Urry developed this invention, which improved significantly
    on the zinc-carbon types (with acid electrolyte) in use at that
    time. Be sufficiently specific.

    4. This two-player mechanical game was invented in 1932 in Toronto
    by Don Munro Sr. It was built out of scrap wood and metal,
    and included used coat-hanger wire, butcher's twine, and
    clock springs. Don took the game down to the local Eaton's
    department store, where it sold quickly, prompting more orders.

    5. Arthur Sicard of Ste-Thérèse, QC, is generally credited as the
    inventor of the first practical version of this device. By 1927
    his invention was being used to remove snow from the roadways
    of the town of Outremont, now a borough of Montreal.

    6. This oil-producing plant is a cultivar of a naturally occurring
    plant. It was developed in Canada by Keith Downey and Baldur
    R. Stefansson in the early 1970s. It contains much less acid
    than its predecessor, which makes it much more palatable to
    both humans and livestock.

    7. Name the Canadian credited with inventing the goalie mask.

    8. Name the Canadian corporation that developed the Canadarm.

    9. This innovation by George Retzlaff of the CBC made its
    debut in 1955 during a broadcast of "Hockey Night in Canada".

    10. This computer language was created by Canada's James Gosling
    in June 1991 while working for Sun Microsystems. Its first
    public implementation was in 1995.

    --
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  • From Joshua Kreitzer@21:1/5 to Mark Brader on Tue Mar 29 22:55:23 2022
    On Tuesday, March 29, 2022 at 11:18:23 PM UTC-5, Mark Brader wrote:

    * Game 10, Round 4 - Canadiana Geography - Prairie Towns

    Here <http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/10-04/prairie.png> is a map
    of the three prairie provinces. On each question we will provide
    you with the name of a city or town, and you give us the number
    of the corresponding circle on the map.

    1. Edmonton.

    1; 2

    2. Winnipeg.

    21; 22

    3. Prince Albert.

    13; 23

    4. Medicine Hat.

    12

    5. Flin Flon.

    14; 24

    6. Swift Current.

    3; 4

    7. Fort McMurray.

    5; 6

    8. Red Deer.

    7; 8

    9. Brandon.

    24; 18

    10. Lloydminster.

    9; 10

    * Game 10, Round 6 - Canadiana Science - Canadian Inventions

    1. This packaging was invented in 1911 by newspaper editor Joseph
    Coyle of Smithers, BC, to solve a dispute between a local farmer
    and hotel owner over the accidental breakage of a product being
    delivered from the farm to the hotel.

    egg carton

    3. While working for Union Carbide in the 1950s, Canadian engineer
    Lewis Urry developed this invention, which improved significantly
    on the zinc-carbon types (with acid electrolyte) in use at that
    time. Be sufficiently specific.

    car battery

    6. This oil-producing plant is a cultivar of a naturally occurring
    plant. It was developed in Canada by Keith Downey and Baldur
    R. Stefansson in the early 1970s. It contains much less acid
    than its predecessor, which makes it much more palatable to
    both humans and livestock.

    canola

    7. Name the Canadian credited with inventing the goalie mask.

    Plante

    9. This innovation by George Retzlaff of the CBC made its
    debut in 1955 during a broadcast of "Hockey Night in Canada".

    instant replay

    10. This computer language was created by Canada's James Gosling
    in June 1991 while working for Sun Microsystems. Its first
    public implementation was in 1995.

    Java

    --
    Joshua Kreitzer
    gromit82@hotmail.com

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  • From Dan Tilque@21:1/5 to Mark Brader on Wed Mar 30 03:32:30 2022
    On 3/29/22 21:18, Mark Brader wrote:


    * Game 10, Round 4 - Canadiana Geography - Prairie Towns

    Here <http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/10-04/prairie.png> is a map
    of the three prairie provinces. On each question we will provide
    you with the name of a city or town, and you give us the number
    of the corresponding circle on the map.

    1. Edmonton.

    5

    2. Winnipeg.

    22

    3. Prince Albert.
    4. Medicine Hat.

    4

    5. Flin Flon.

    17

    6. Swift Current.

    20

    7. Fort McMurray.

    8

    8. Red Deer.

    9

    9. Brandon.

    24

    10. Lloydminster.

    15


    There were, obviously, 14 decoys. Decode the rot13 and give the
    numbers for these if you like for fun, but for no points.

    11. Calgary.

    1

    12. Canmore.
    13. Churchill.

    19

    14. Dauphin.
    15. Fort Chipewyan.
    16. Gimli.

    23

    17. Grande Prairie.

    8

    18. Jasper.

    10

    19. La Ronge.
    20. Lethbridge.
    21. Portage la Prairie.

    21

    22. Regina.

    11

    23. Saskatoon.

    13

    24. Thompson.


    * Game 10, Round 6 - Canadiana Science - Canadian Inventions

    1. This packaging was invented in 1911 by newspaper editor Joseph
    Coyle of Smithers, BC, to solve a dispute between a local farmer
    and hotel owner over the accidental breakage of a product being
    delivered from the farm to the hotel.

    2. This variant of a popular sport (or, to some, a game) was
    devised in the early 20th century by Thomas F. Ryan in Toronto.
    He developed it in response to customers who complained that
    the more standard version of the sport was too strenuous.
    This variant is still played almost exclusively in Canada.
    Be sufficiently specific.

    3. While working for Union Carbide in the 1950s, Canadian engineer
    Lewis Urry developed this invention, which improved significantly
    on the zinc-carbon types (with acid electrolyte) in use at that
    time. Be sufficiently specific.

    alkaline battery


    4. This two-player mechanical game was invented in 1932 in Toronto
    by Don Munro Sr. It was built out of scrap wood and metal,
    and included used coat-hanger wire, butcher's twine, and
    clock springs. Don took the game down to the local Eaton's
    department store, where it sold quickly, prompting more orders.

    5. Arthur Sicard of Ste-Thérèse, QC, is generally credited as the
    inventor of the first practical version of this device. By 1927
    his invention was being used to remove snow from the roadways
    of the town of Outremont, now a borough of Montreal.

    6. This oil-producing plant is a cultivar of a naturally occurring
    plant. It was developed in Canada by Keith Downey and Baldur
    R. Stefansson in the early 1970s. It contains much less acid
    than its predecessor, which makes it much more palatable to
    both humans and livestock.

    canola


    7. Name the Canadian credited with inventing the goalie mask.

    8. Name the Canadian corporation that developed the Canadarm.

    9. This innovation by George Retzlaff of the CBC made its
    debut in 1955 during a broadcast of "Hockey Night in Canada".

    10. This computer language was created by Canada's James Gosling
    in June 1991 while working for Sun Microsystems. Its first
    public implementation was in 1995.


    --
    Dan Tilque

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  • From Dan Blum@21:1/5 to Mark Brader on Thu Mar 31 02:52:30 2022
    Mark Brader <msb@vex.net> wrote:

    * Game 10, Round 4 - Canadiana Geography - Prairie Towns

    1. Edmonton.

    4; 2

    2. Winnipeg.

    7

    3. Prince Albert.

    18; 17

    4. Medicine Hat.

    16; 14

    5. Flin Flon.

    13; 14

    6. Swift Current.

    19; 23

    7. Fort McMurray.

    1; 3

    8. Red Deer.

    6; 8

    9. Brandon.

    9; 24

    10. Lloydminster.

    5; 22

    * Game 10, Round 6 - Canadiana Science - Canadian Inventions

    1. This packaging was invented in 1911 by newspaper editor Joseph
    Coyle of Smithers, BC, to solve a dispute between a local farmer
    and hotel owner over the accidental breakage of a product being
    delivered from the farm to the hotel.

    egg carton

    2. This variant of a popular sport (or, to some, a game) was
    devised in the early 20th century by Thomas F. Ryan in Toronto.
    He developed it in response to customers who complained that
    the more standard version of the sport was too strenuous.
    This variant is still played almost exclusively in Canada.
    Be sufficiently specific.

    seated darts

    3. While working for Union Carbide in the 1950s, Canadian engineer
    Lewis Urry developed this invention, which improved significantly
    on the zinc-carbon types (with acid electrolyte) in use at that
    time. Be sufficiently specific.

    lithium batteries

    5. Arthur Sicard of Ste-Th?r?se, QC, is generally credited as the
    inventor of the first practical version of this device. By 1927
    his invention was being used to remove snow from the roadways
    of the town of Outremont, now a borough of Montreal.

    snowblower

    6. This oil-producing plant is a cultivar of a naturally occurring
    plant. It was developed in Canada by Keith Downey and Baldur
    R. Stefansson in the early 1970s. It contains much less acid
    than its predecessor, which makes it much more palatable to
    both humans and livestock.

    rapeseed

    9. This innovation by George Retzlaff of the CBC made its
    debut in 1955 during a broadcast of "Hockey Night in Canada".

    slow-motion replay

    10. This computer language was created by Canada's James Gosling
    in June 1991 while working for Sun Microsystems. Its first
    public implementation was in 1995.

    Java

    --
    _______________________________________________________________________
    Dan Blum tool@panix.com
    "I wouldn't have believed it myself if I hadn't just made it up."

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  • From Erland Sommarskog@21:1/5 to Mark Brader on Thu Mar 31 21:19:26 2022
    Mark Brader (msb@vex.net) writes:
    * Game 10, Round 4 - Canadiana Geography - Prairie Towns


    OK, I give it try, but one condition: don't laugh over all the silly
    wrong ones!

    1. Edmonton.

    13

    2. Winnipeg.

    21

    3. Prince Albert.

    8

    4. Medicine Hat.

    4

    5. Flin Flon.

    10

    6. Swift Current.

    23

    7. Fort McMurray.

    16

    8. Red Deer.

    24

    9. Brandon.

    14

    10. Lloydminster.

    22

    11. Calgary.

    9

    13. Churchill.

    19

    * Game 10, Round 6 - Canadiana Science - Canadian Inventions
    10. This computer language was created by Canada's James Gosling
    in June 1991 while working for Sun Microsystems. Its first
    public implementation was in 1995.

    Java

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  • From Pete Gayde@21:1/5 to Mark Brader on Thu Mar 31 15:33:59 2022
    Mark Brader wrote:
    These questions were written to be asked in Toronto on 2012-04-02,
    and should be interpreted accordingly. All questions were written
    by members of Footloose and Firkin Free, but have been reformatted
    and may have been retyped and/or edited by me. I will reveal the
    correct answers in about 3 days.

    For further information, including an explanation of the """ notation
    that may appear in these rounds, see my 2021-07-20 companion posting
    on "Reposted Questions from the Canadian Inquisition (RQFTCI*)".


    * Game 10, Round 4 - Canadiana Geography - Prairie Towns

    Here <http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/10-04/prairie.png> is a map
    of the three prairie provinces. On each question we will provide
    you with the name of a city or town, and you give us the number
    of the corresponding circle on the map.

    1. Edmonton.

    5

    2. Winnipeg.

    21

    3. Prince Albert.

    7; 6

    4. Medicine Hat.

    16; 6

    5. Flin Flon.

    16; 6

    6. Swift Current.

    6; 7

    7. Fort McMurray.

    8; 7

    8. Red Deer.

    17; 18


    9. Brandon.

    12; 11

    10. Lloydminster.

    1; 2


    There were, obviously, 14 decoys. Decode the rot13 and give the
    numbers for these if you like for fun, but for no points.

    11. Calgary.
    12. Canmore.
    13. Churchill.
    14. Dauphin.
    15. Fort Chipewyan.
    16. Gimli.
    17. Grande Prairie.
    18. Jasper.
    19. La Ronge.
    20. Lethbridge.
    21. Portage la Prairie.
    22. Regina.
    23. Saskatoon.
    24. Thompson.


    * Game 10, Round 6 - Canadiana Science - Canadian Inventions

    1. This packaging was invented in 1911 by newspaper editor Joseph
    Coyle of Smithers, BC, to solve a dispute between a local farmer
    and hotel owner over the accidental breakage of a product being
    delivered from the farm to the hotel.

    Egg carton


    2. This variant of a popular sport (or, to some, a game) was
    devised in the early 20th century by Thomas F. Ryan in Toronto.
    He developed it in response to customers who complained that
    the more standard version of the sport was too strenuous.
    This variant is still played almost exclusively in Canada.
    Be sufficiently specific.

    3. While working for Union Carbide in the 1950s, Canadian engineer
    Lewis Urry developed this invention, which improved significantly
    on the zinc-carbon types (with acid electrolyte) in use at that
    time. Be sufficiently specific.

    4. This two-player mechanical game was invented in 1932 in Toronto
    by Don Munro Sr. It was built out of scrap wood and metal,
    and included used coat-hanger wire, butcher's twine, and
    clock springs. Don took the game down to the local Eaton's
    department store, where it sold quickly, prompting more orders.

    Table Hockey


    5. Arthur Sicard of Ste-Thérèse, QC, is generally credited as the
    inventor of the first practical version of this device. By 1927
    his invention was being used to remove snow from the roadways
    of the town of Outremont, now a borough of Montreal.

    Snow plow


    6. This oil-producing plant is a cultivar of a naturally occurring
    plant. It was developed in Canada by Keith Downey and Baldur
    R. Stefansson in the early 1970s. It contains much less acid
    than its predecessor, which makes it much more palatable to
    both humans and livestock.

    7. Name the Canadian credited with inventing the goalie mask.

    Jacques Plante


    8. Name the Canadian corporation that developed the Canadarm.

    9. This innovation by George Retzlaff of the CBC made its
    debut in 1955 during a broadcast of "Hockey Night in Canada".

    Replay; Slow motion replay


    10. This computer language was created by Canada's James Gosling
    in June 1991 while working for Sun Microsystems. Its first
    public implementation was in 1995.

    Java



    Pete Gayde

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  • From Mark Brader@21:1/5 to All on Sat Apr 2 05:04:04 2022
    Mark Brader:
    These questions were written to be asked in Toronto on 2012-04-02,
    and should be interpreted accordingly... For further information...
    see my 2021-07-20 companion posting on "Reposted Questions from
    the Canadian Inquisition (RQFTCI*)".


    * Game 10, Round 4 - Canadiana Geography - Prairie Towns

    Here <http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/msb/10-04/prairie.png> is a map
    of the three prairie provinces. On each question we will provide
    you with the name of a city or town, and you give us the number
    of the corresponding circle on the map.

    1. Edmonton.

    #5. 4 for Dan Tilque and Pete.

    2. Winnipeg.

    #22. 4 for Dan Tilque. 2 for Joshua.

    3. Prince Albert.

    #14.

    4. Medicine Hat.

    #4. 4 for Dan Tilque and Erland.

    5. Flin Flon.

    #17. The urban area is mainly in Manitoba with a small part
    (whose incorporation status is unclear to me) in Saskatchewan.
    4 for Dan Tilque.

    6. Swift Current.

    #12.

    7. Fort McMurray.

    #6. 2 for Joshua.

    8. Red Deer.

    #9. 4 for Dan Tilque.

    9. Brandon.

    #20.

    10. Lloydminster.

    #15. This is a single incorporated municipality extending into both
    Alberta and Saskatchewan. 4 for Dan Tilque.

    Lloydminster existed in what was then part of the Northwest
    Territories before the Alberta-Saskatchewan boundary was routed
    through it. At first it was partitioned into separate municipalities
    in each province, but eventually they asked for and received
    permission to merge, forming the present arrangement.

    There were, obviously, 14 decoys. Decode the rot13 [sic -- oops!]
    and give the numbers for these if you like for fun, but for
    no points.

    11. Calgary.

    #1. Dan Tilque got this.

    12. Canmore.

    #3.

    13. Churchill.

    #19. Dan Tilque and Erland got this.

    14. Dauphin.

    #24.

    15. Fort Chipewyan.

    #7.

    16. Gimli.

    #23. Dan Tilque got this.

    17. Grande Prairie.

    #8. Dan Tilque got this.

    18. Jasper.

    #10. Dan Tilque got this.

    19. La Ronge.

    #16.

    20. Lethbridge.

    #2.

    21. Portage la Prairie.

    #21. Dan Tilque got this.

    22. Regina.

    #11. Dan Tilque got this.

    23. Saskatoon.

    #13. Dan Tilque got this.

    24. Thompson.

    #18.


    * Game 10, Round 6 - Canadiana Science - Canadian Inventions

    1. This packaging was invented in 1911 by newspaper editor Joseph
    Coyle of Smithers, BC, to solve a dispute between a local farmer
    and hotel owner over the accidental breakage of a product being
    delivered from the farm to the hotel.

    Egg carton. 4 for Joshua, Dan Blum, and Pete.

    2. This variant of a popular sport (or, to some, a game) was
    devised in the early 20th century by Thomas F. Ryan in Toronto.
    He developed it in response to customers who complained that
    the more standard version of the sport was too strenuous.
    This variant is still played almost exclusively in Canada.
    Be sufficiently specific.

    5-pin bowling.

    The scoring is different and the ball is smaller: http://farm1.static.flickr.com/139/387046654_a550661ec8.jpg

    The same bowling alley may also provide American-style 10-pin bowling:

    http://cdn.familyfuncanada.com/calgary/files/2018/06/Lets-Bowl-600x188.jpg http://cdn.canada247.info/assets/uploads/77378a1e00c5f8be32ac49749843030e_-british-columbia-greater-vancouver-richmond-lucky-9-laneshtml.jpg

    (In the first photo the 10-pin lanes are in the middle; in the second
    they're on the left. Nobody seems to be wanting to post an image
    that clearly shows both types of lanes.)

    3. While working for Union Carbide in the 1950s, Canadian engineer
    Lewis Urry developed this invention, which improved significantly
    on the zinc-carbon types (with acid electrolyte) in use at that
    time. Be sufficiently specific.

    Alkaline battery. 4 for Dan Tilque.

    4. This two-player mechanical game was invented in 1932 in Toronto
    by Don Munro Sr. It was built out of scrap wood and metal,
    and included used coat-hanger wire, butcher's twine, and
    clock springs. Don took the game down to the local Eaton's
    department store, where it sold quickly, prompting more orders.

    Table hockey. 4 for Pete.

    See <http://lekmer.se/images/193141/external-large.jpg>. Each
    "skater" can be moved along its slot by pushing or pulling the
    corresponding knob, or rotated in place (to shoot the puck) by
    spinning the knob.

    5. Arthur Sicard of Ste-Thérèse, QC, is generally credited as the
    inventor of the first practical version of this device. By 1927
    his invention was being used to remove snow from the roadways
    of the town of Outremont, now a borough of Montreal.

    Snow-blower. 4 for Dan Blum.

    6. This oil-producing plant is a cultivar of a naturally occurring
    plant. It was developed in Canada by Keith Downey and Baldur
    R. Stefansson in the early 1970s. It contains much less acid
    than its predecessor, which makes it much more palatable to
    both humans and livestock.

    Canola, derived from rapeseed (but no points for rapeseed).
    The name is an acronym for "Canadian oil, low acid". 4 for Joshua
    and Dan Tilque.

    7. Name the Canadian credited with inventing the goalie mask.

    Jacques Plante is the well-known answer and was what was originally
    expected, but Clint Benedict also wore a mask, just temporarily, 29
    years earlier. I'm accepting either answer. 4 for Joshua and Pete.

    Here's Plante's story:

    http://web.archive.org/web/20120309065733/http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=383063

    Here's Benedict's story:

    http://sportsthenandnow.com/2009/10/29/the-hockey-mask-50-years-later-not-required-but-never-without/

    Here's a color photo of Plante in his mask, and for further contrast
    with both Plante and Benedict, an illustration of what they can look
    like these days:

    http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ltscuy48kw1qm9rypo1_1280.jpg

    http://static01.nyt.com/images/2017/05/14/sports/14GOALIEMASK1/14GOALIEMASK1-superJumbo.jpg

    8. Name the Canadian corporation that developed the Canadarm.

    Spar Aerospace.

    The Canadarm was the remote-manipulator arm on the space shuttles: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bd/1996_s72_Scott_EVA.jpg
    A later version is installed on the international space station.

    9. This innovation by George Retzlaff of the CBC made its
    debut in 1955 during a broadcast of "Hockey Night in Canada".

    The replay. (Accepting "instant replay", but not "slow-motion
    replay", which came several years later.) 4 for Joshua. 3 for Pete.

    It was not actually an instant replay, as was claimed in the original
    game; Retzlaff's process involved a movie camera pointed at a TV,
    producing a film called a "kinescope". This was a common method of
    recording TV broadcasts, but Retzlaff's innovation was to develop the
    film so fast it could be shown a few minutes later. True instant
    replay required videotape and -- as mentioned on "Jeopardy!" on
    2022-02-02 -- was first used during an American football broadcast
    in 1963. See:

    http://www.denverpost.com/2013/11/16/a-look-at-tvs-instant-replay-through-the-years/

    10. This computer language was created by Canada's James Gosling
    in June 1991 while working for Sun Microsystems. Its first
    public implementation was in 1995.

    Java. 4 for Joshua, Dan Blum, Erland, and Pete.


    Scores, if there are no errors:

    GAME 10 ROUNDS-> 2 3 4 6 TOTALS
    TOPICS-> His Spo Can Can
    Joshua Kreitzer 32 23 4 20 79
    Dan Tilque 8 12 24 8 52
    Dan Blum 16 4 0 12 32
    Pete Gayde -- -- 4 19 23
    Erland Sommarskog 8 4 4 4 20

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    Toronto | nor the battle to the strong --
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