• Re: New House speaker

    From BTSinAustin@21:1/5 to BTSinAustin on Thu Nov 2 12:46:46 2023
    On Thursday, November 2, 2023 at 3:44:13 PM UTC-4, BTSinAustin wrote:
    The man may be a religious freak but he is not ignoring Biden's crimes and it looks like he is going to impeach. Its about time.

    But:

    The democrats are correct:
    Outside of the bank records, the suspicious activity reports, the wire transfers, the Private bank transactions, the LLCs, the texts, the emails,
    the WhatsApp messages, the photos of Joe with Hunter's business
    partners, the voicemails to his son, the two business partners saying
    Joe is the "brand," the "big guy," and "the chairman," the two
    whistleblowers testimony, the recorded phone calls between Biden and Poroshenko, the video of Joe Biden bragging about firing the Ukrainian prosecutor, and Hunter's statements that he's giving his dad half his
    income, there is NO evidence of Joe Biden being involved.
    Good call guys.

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  • From Grunty@21:1/5 to BTSinAustin on Thu Nov 2 13:12:10 2023
    On Thursday, November 2, 2023 at 4:46:50 PM UTC-3, BTSinAustin wrote:
    On Thursday, November 2, 2023 at 3:44:13 PM UTC-4, BTSinAustin wrote:
    The man may be a religious freak but he is not ignoring Biden's crimes and it looks like he is going to impeach. Its about time.
    But:

    The democrats are correct:
    Outside of the bank records, the suspicious activity reports, the wire transfers, the Private bank transactions, the LLCs, the texts, the emails, the WhatsApp messages, the photos of Joe with Hunter's business
    partners, the voicemails to his son, the two business partners saying
    Joe is the "brand," the "big guy," and "the chairman," the two whistleblowers testimony, the recorded phone calls between Biden and Poroshenko, the video of Joe Biden bragging about firing the Ukrainian prosecutor, and Hunter's statements that he's giving his dad half his income, there is NO evidence of Joe Biden being involved.
    Good call guys.

    You've triggered a mechanism. Let's measure the time till the local Dembot pops up and does its parrotesque job.

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  • From BTSinAustin@21:1/5 to All on Thu Nov 2 12:44:08 2023
    The man may be a religious freak but he is not ignoring Biden's crimes and it looks like he is going to impeach. Its about time.

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  • From RichD@21:1/5 to Grunty on Thu Nov 2 17:02:36 2023
    On November 2, Grunty wrote:
    The democrats are correct:
    Outside of the bank records, the suspicious activity reports, the wire
    transfers, the Private bank transactions, the LLCs, the texts, the emails, >> the WhatsApp messages, the photos of Joe with Hunter's business
    partners, the voicemails to his son, the two business partners saying
    Joe is the "brand," the "big guy," and "the chairman," the two
    whistleblowers testimony, the recorded phone calls between Biden and
    Poroshenko, the video of Joe Biden bragging about firing the Ukrainian
    prosecutor, and Hunter's statements that he's giving his dad half his
    income, there is NO evidence of Joe Biden being involved.

    You've triggered a mechanism. Let's measure the time till the local Dembot pops up
    and does its parrotesque job.

    Trump got a bump in his ratings following his indictments.
    So did Clinton in 1998 following impeachment.
    So Lying Joe might come up roses -

    --
    Rich

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to BTSinAustin on Thu Nov 2 17:02:49 2023
    On Thursday, November 2, 2023 at 12:44:13 PM UTC-7, BTSinAustin wrote:
    The man may be a religious freak but he is not ignoring Biden's crimes and it looks like he is going to impeach. Its about time..

    So do you have that list of "Biden's crimes?" Because nobody else has them.

    _____ List of Biden's Crimes ____

    _______________________
    _______________________
    _______________________
    _______________________

    (More lines added as you list them)

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  • From da pickle@21:1/5 to Grunty on Thu Nov 2 19:06:15 2023
    On 11/2/2023 3:12 PM, Grunty wrote:
    On Thursday, November 2, 2023 at 4:46:50 PM UTC-3, BTSinAustin wrote:
    On Thursday, November 2, 2023 at 3:44:13 PM UTC-4, BTSinAustin wrote:
    The man may be a religious freak but he is not ignoring Biden's crimes and it looks like he is going to impeach. Its about time.
    But:

    The democrats are correct:
    Outside of the bank records, the suspicious activity reports, the wire
    transfers, the Private bank transactions, the LLCs, the texts, the emails, >> the WhatsApp messages, the photos of Joe with Hunter's business
    partners, the voicemails to his son, the two business partners saying
    Joe is the "brand," the "big guy," and "the chairman," the two
    whistleblowers testimony, the recorded phone calls between Biden and
    Poroshenko, the video of Joe Biden bragging about firing the Ukrainian
    prosecutor, and Hunter's statements that he's giving his dad half his
    income, there is NO evidence of Joe Biden being involved.
    Good call guys.

    You've triggered a mechanism. Let's measure the time till the local Dembot pops up and does its parrotesque job.

    The new speaker is a friend of mine ... a friendly nice and honest
    politician ... had to find in the House. [Or the other place.]

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to BTSinAustin on Thu Nov 2 17:06:35 2023
    On Thursday, November 2, 2023 at 12:46:50 PM UTC-7, BTSinAustin wrote:
    On Thursday, November 2, 2023 at 3:44:13 PM UTC-4, BTSinAustin wrote:
    The man may be a religious freak but he is not ignoring Biden's crimes and it looks like he is going to impeach. Its about time.
    But:

    The democrats are correct:
    .

    They usually are.

    Outside of the bank records, the suspicious activity reports, the wire transfers, the Private bank transactions, the LLCs, the texts, the emails, the WhatsApp messages, the photos of Joe with Hunter's business
    partners, the voicemails to his son, the two business partners saying
    Joe is the "brand," the "big guy," and "the chairman," the two whistleblowers testimony, the recorded phone calls between Biden and Poroshenko, the video of Joe Biden bragging about firing the Ukrainian prosecutor, and Hunter's statements that he's giving his dad half his income, there is NO evidence of Joe Biden being involved.
    Good call guys.
    .

    Oh...

    I guess I won't need to add any lines..

    ____ List of Biden's Crimes ______

    ________________________
    ________________________
    ________________________
    _______________________

    (I'll add lines as you need them)

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to RichD on Thu Nov 2 17:08:26 2023
    On Thursday, November 2, 2023 at 5:02:40 PM UTC-7, RichD wrote:
    On November 2, Grunty wrote:
    The democrats are correct:
    Outside of the bank records, the suspicious activity reports, the wire
    transfers, the Private bank transactions, the LLCs, the texts, the emails,
    the WhatsApp messages, the photos of Joe with Hunter's business
    partners, the voicemails to his son, the two business partners saying
    Joe is the "brand," the "big guy," and "the chairman," the two
    whistleblowers testimony, the recorded phone calls between Biden and
    Poroshenko, the video of Joe Biden bragging about firing the Ukrainian
    prosecutor, and Hunter's statements that he's giving his dad half his
    income, there is NO evidence of Joe Biden being involved.

    You've triggered a mechanism. Let's measure the time till the local Dembot pops up
    and does its parrotesque job.
    Trump got a bump in his ratings following his indictments.
    So did Clinton in 1998 following impeachment.
    So Lying Joe might come up roses -

    --
    Rich
    .

    Oh, and you can list Biden's Lies for us. (Hope you have better luck than BTS....)

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  • From Mossingen@21:1/5 to All on Fri Nov 3 01:49:12 2023
    "da pickle" wrote in message news:2_CcnbSchrHopNn4nZ2dnZfqlJ9j4p2d@giganews.com...

    The new speaker is a friend of mine ... a friendly nice and honest
    politician ... had to find in the House. [Or the other place.]


    _______________


    How in the world did he swing that? I'd never heard of this guy, there is infighting in the GOP, names bandied about, then poof! He appears out of nowhere as the Speaker.

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  • From da pickle@21:1/5 to Mossingen on Fri Nov 3 11:59:11 2023
    On 11/3/2023 1:49 AM, Mossingen wrote:
    "da pickle"  wrote in message news:2_CcnbSchrHopNn4nZ2dnZfqlJ9j4p2d@giganews.com...

    The new speaker is a friend of mine ... a friendly nice and honest
    politician ... had to find in the House.  [Or the other place.]


    _______________


    How in the world did he swing that?  I'd never heard of this guy, there
    is infighting in the GOP, names bandied about, then poof!  He appears
    out of nowhere as the Speaker.

    Come over for a visit and I will invite him over for dinner.

    Really nice guy.



    --
    This email has been checked for viruses by AVG antivirus software.
    www.avg.com

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to da pickle on Fri Nov 3 11:46:42 2023
    On Friday, November 3, 2023 at 9:59:28 AM UTC-7, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/3/2023 1:49 AM, Mossingen wrote:
    "da pickle" wrote in message
    news:2_CcnbSchrHopNn4...@giganews.com...

    The new speaker is a friend of mine ... a friendly nice and honest politician ... had to find in the House. [Or the other place.]
    .
    .
    Really nice guy.
    .

    Election denier. Against women's rights. For Trump & Putin in killing Ukraine. Simply refuses to follow The Constitution.
    .

    "He's a friend of mine.."

    (Jail) birds of a feather.... 

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  • From William Bradley@21:1/5 to da pickle on Fri Nov 3 23:40:55 2023
    On Friday, November 3, 2023 at 9:59:28 AM UTC-7, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/3/2023 1:49 AM, Mossingen wrote:
    "da pickle" wrote in message
    news:2_CcnbSchrHopNn4...@giganews.com...

    The new speaker is a friend of mine ... a friendly nice and honest politician ... had to find in the House. [Or the other place.]


    _______________


    How in the world did he swing that? I'd never heard of this guy, there
    is infighting in the GOP, names bandied about, then poof! He appears
    out of nowhere as the Speaker.
    Come over for a visit and I will invite him over for dinner.

    Really nice guy.

    He is a piece of shit homophobe who argued to make 7% of Americans criminals because he didn’t agree with their sexual orientation. Not surprised you two bigots get along.

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  • From da pickle@21:1/5 to William Bradley on Sat Nov 4 12:30:22 2023
    On 11/4/2023 1:40 AM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Friday, November 3, 2023 at 9:59:28 AM UTC-7, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/3/2023 1:49 AM, Mossingen wrote:
    "da pickle" wrote in message
    news:2_CcnbSchrHopNn4...@giganews.com...

    The new speaker is a friend of mine ... a friendly nice and honest
    politician ... had to find in the House. [Or the other place.]


    _______________


    How in the world did he swing that? I'd never heard of this guy, there
    is infighting in the GOP, names bandied about, then poof! He appears
    out of nowhere as the Speaker.
    Come over for a visit and I will invite him over for dinner.

    Really nice guy.

    He is a piece of shit homophobe who argued to make 7% of Americans criminals because he didn’t agree with their sexual orientation. Not surprised you two bigots get along.

    You have fallen and cannot get up ... seek help.

    [Sorry if this fact is because of your medical condition ... it is hard
    to be as sick as you are.]

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to VegasJerry on Sat Nov 4 13:26:24 2023
    On Friday, November 3, 2023 at 11:46:46 AM UTC-7, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Friday, November 3, 2023 at 9:59:28 AM UTC-7, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/3/2023 1:49 AM, Mossingen wrote:
    "da pickle" wrote in message
    news:2_CcnbSchrHopNn4...@giganews.com...

    The new speaker is a friend of mine ... a friendly nice and honest politician ... had to find in the House. [Or the other place.]
    .
    .
    Really nice guy.
    .

    Election denier. Against women's rights. For Trump & Putin in killing Ukraine.
    Simply refuses to follow The Constitution.
    .

    "He's a friend of mine.."

    (Jail) birds of a feather.....
    .

    We'll take your Run & Hide as an agreement:

    "He is an election denier. Against women's rights. For Trump & Putin in killing Ukraine.
    Simply refuses to follow The Constitution."

    ... Still running?.....

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  • From William Bradley@21:1/5 to da pickle on Sat Nov 4 14:04:35 2023
    On Saturday, November 4, 2023 at 10:30:39 AM UTC-7, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/4/2023 1:40 AM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Friday, November 3, 2023 at 9:59:28 AM UTC-7, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/3/2023 1:49 AM, Mossingen wrote:
    "da pickle" wrote in message
    news:2_CcnbSchrHopNn4...@giganews.com...

    The new speaker is a friend of mine ... a friendly nice and honest
    politician ... had to find in the House. [Or the other place.]


    _______________


    How in the world did he swing that? I'd never heard of this guy, there >>> is infighting in the GOP, names bandied about, then poof! He appears
    out of nowhere as the Speaker.
    Come over for a visit and I will invite him over for dinner.

    Really nice guy.

    He is a piece of shit homophobe who argued to make 7% of Americans criminals because he didn’t agree with their sexual orientation. Not surprised you two bigots get along.
    You have fallen and cannot get up ... seek help.

    [Sorry if this fact is because of your medical condition ... it is hard
    to be as sick as you are.]

    In other words you have nothing. Like I said, you are every bit the bigoted piece of shit your asshole buddy is.

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to da pickle on Sat Nov 4 13:28:22 2023
    On Saturday, November 4, 2023 at 10:30:39 AM UTC-7, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/4/2023 1:40 AM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Friday, November 3, 2023 at 9:59:28 AM UTC-7, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/3/2023 1:49 AM, Mossingen wrote:
    "da pickle" wrote in message
    news:2_CcnbSchrHopNn4...@giganews.com...

    The new speaker is a friend of mine ... a friendly nice and honest
    politician ... had to find in the House. [Or the other place.]


    _______________


    How in the world did he swing that? I'd never heard of this guy, there >>> is infighting in the GOP, names bandied about, then poof! He appears
    out of nowhere as the Speaker.
    Come over for a visit and I will invite him over for dinner.

    Really nice guy.

    He is a piece of shit homophobe who argued to make 7% of Americans criminals because he didn’t agree with
    their sexual orientation. Not surprised you two bigots get along.
    .

    You have fallen and cannot get up ... seek help.
    .

    *** No Denial Noted ***
    .
    .
    .
    .
    Pickle in a pickle, once again.....

    (This dork is SO fucking easy.....)

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  • From William Bradley@21:1/5 to William Bradley on Sat Nov 4 16:46:42 2023
    On Saturday, November 4, 2023 at 2:04:39 PM UTC-7, William Bradley wrote:
    On Saturday, November 4, 2023 at 10:30:39 AM UTC-7, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/4/2023 1:40 AM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Friday, November 3, 2023 at 9:59:28 AM UTC-7, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/3/2023 1:49 AM, Mossingen wrote:
    "da pickle" wrote in message
    news:2_CcnbSchrHopNn4...@giganews.com...

    The new speaker is a friend of mine ... a friendly nice and honest
    politician ... had to find in the House. [Or the other place.]


    _______________


    How in the world did he swing that? I'd never heard of this guy, there >>> is infighting in the GOP, names bandied about, then poof! He appears >>> out of nowhere as the Speaker.
    Come over for a visit and I will invite him over for dinner.

    Really nice guy.

    He is a piece of shit homophobe who argued to make 7% of Americans criminals because he didn’t agree with their sexual orientation. Not surprised you two bigots get along.
    You have fallen and cannot get up ... seek help.

    [Sorry if this fact is because of your medical condition ... it is hard
    to be as sick as you are.]
    In other words you have nothing. Like I said, you are every bit the bigoted piece of shit your asshole buddy is.

    And not only is he a world class bigot, he is also a complete fucking idiot:

    “Johnson holds young-Earth creationist beliefs.[112] He helped the Creation Museum secure millions of dollars of tax subsidies to build a life-sized Ark Encounter which teaches dinosaurs accompanied Noah during the flood.[113] In 2016, Johnson
    delivered a sermon that called the teaching of evolution one of the causes of mass shootings: "People say, 'How can a young person go into their schoolhouse and open fire on their classmates?' Because we've taught a whole generation—a couple
    generations now—of Americans, that there's no right or wrong, that it's about survival of the fittest, and you evolve from the primordial slime. Why is that life of any sacred value? Because there's nobody sacred to whom it's owed."[104][114]

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  • From da pickle@21:1/5 to William Bradley on Sun Nov 5 08:00:24 2023
    On 11/4/2023 6:46 PM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Saturday, November 4, 2023 at 2:04:39 PM UTC-7, William Bradley wrote:
    On Saturday, November 4, 2023 at 10:30:39 AM UTC-7, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/4/2023 1:40 AM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Friday, November 3, 2023 at 9:59:28 AM UTC-7, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/3/2023 1:49 AM, Mossingen wrote:
    "da pickle" wrote in message
    news:2_CcnbSchrHopNn4...@giganews.com...

    The new speaker is a friend of mine ... a friendly nice and honest >>>>>> politician ... had to find in the House. [Or the other place.]


    _______________


    How in the world did he swing that? I'd never heard of this guy, there >>>>>> is infighting in the GOP, names bandied about, then poof! He appears >>>>>> out of nowhere as the Speaker.
    Come over for a visit and I will invite him over for dinner.

    Really nice guy.

    He is a piece of shit homophobe who argued to make 7% of Americans criminals because he didn’t agree with their sexual orientation. Not surprised you two bigots get along.
    You have fallen and cannot get up ... seek help.

    [Sorry if this fact is because of your medical condition ... it is hard
    to be as sick as you are.]
    In other words you have nothing. Like I said, you are every bit the bigoted piece of shit your asshole buddy is.

    And not only is he a world class bigot, he is also a complete fucking idiot:

    “Johnson holds young-Earth creationist beliefs.[112] He helped the Creation Museum secure millions of dollars of tax subsidies to build a life-sized Ark Encounter which teaches dinosaurs accompanied Noah during the flood.[113] In 2016, Johnson
    delivered a sermon that called the teaching of evolution one of the causes of mass shootings: "People say, 'How can a young person go into their schoolhouse and open fire on their classmates?' Because we've taught a whole generation—a couple
    generations now—of Americans, that there's no right or wrong, that it's about survival of the fittest, and you evolve from the primordial slime. Why is that life of any sacred value? Because there's nobody sacred to whom it's owed."[104][114]

    So, in Canada Christians are persecuted? Should we no longer let anyone
    who is a Christian hold public office? How about the Muslims? Just
    kill all them too? Surely you want the Jews to go too. No question
    about that. Maybe you should be dictator and then everything would be "perfect".

    "bigot" defines you perfectly

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  • From William Bradley@21:1/5 to da pickle on Sun Nov 5 08:13:51 2023
    On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 6:00:41 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/4/2023 6:46 PM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Saturday, November 4, 2023 at 2:04:39 PM UTC-7, William Bradley wrote:
    On Saturday, November 4, 2023 at 10:30:39 AM UTC-7, da pickle wrote: >>> On 11/4/2023 1:40 AM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Friday, November 3, 2023 at 9:59:28 AM UTC-7, da pickle wrote: >>>>> On 11/3/2023 1:49 AM, Mossingen wrote:
    "da pickle" wrote in message
    news:2_CcnbSchrHopNn4...@giganews.com...

    The new speaker is a friend of mine ... a friendly nice and honest >>>>>> politician ... had to find in the House. [Or the other place.]


    _______________


    How in the world did he swing that? I'd never heard of this guy, there
    is infighting in the GOP, names bandied about, then poof! He appears >>>>>> out of nowhere as the Speaker.
    Come over for a visit and I will invite him over for dinner.

    Really nice guy.

    He is a piece of shit homophobe who argued to make 7% of Americans criminals because he didn’t agree with their sexual orientation. Not surprised you two bigots get along.
    You have fallen and cannot get up ... seek help.

    [Sorry if this fact is because of your medical condition ... it is hard >>> to be as sick as you are.]
    In other words you have nothing. Like I said, you are every bit the bigoted piece of shit your asshole buddy is.

    And not only is he a world class bigot, he is also a complete fucking idiot:

    “Johnson holds young-Earth creationist beliefs.[112] He helped the Creation Museum secure millions of dollars of tax subsidies to build a life-sized Ark Encounter which teaches dinosaurs accompanied Noah during the flood.[113] In 2016, Johnson
    delivered a sermon that called the teaching of evolution one of the causes of mass shootings: "People say, 'How can a young person go into their schoolhouse and open fire on their classmates?' Because we've taught a whole generation—a couple
    generations now—of Americans, that there's no right or wrong, that it's about survival of the fittest, and you evolve from the primordial slime. Why is that life of any sacred value? Because there's nobody sacred to whom it's owed."[104][114]
    So, in Canada Christians are persecuted? Should we no longer let anyone
    who is a Christian hold public office? How about the Muslims? Just
    kill all them too? Surely you want the Jews to go too. No question
    about that. Maybe you should be dictator and then everything would be "perfect".

    "bigot" defines you perfectly

    One strawman after another. I said he is a bigot and an idiot. Anyone who thinks the Earth is 5000 years old and that Noah built an arc and filled it with dinosaurs is a fucking moron. Doesn’t matter if they call it “religion” or not. Anyone who
    wants to criminalize being gay is a lowlife bigot. Doesn’t matter if they call it “religion” or not. You CHOOSE to accept those beliefs or not. He has chosen to be a bigot, Nobody is forcing him to believe that crap. Like I said, it doesn’t
    surprise me in the least that you think a piece of shit like that is a great guy and that you get along swimmingly.

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  • From da pickle@21:1/5 to William Bradley on Sun Nov 5 10:54:10 2023
    On 11/5/2023 10:13 AM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 6:00:41 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/4/2023 6:46 PM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Saturday, November 4, 2023 at 2:04:39 PM UTC-7, William Bradley wrote: >>>> On Saturday, November 4, 2023 at 10:30:39 AM UTC-7, da pickle wrote: >>>>> On 11/4/2023 1:40 AM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Friday, November 3, 2023 at 9:59:28 AM UTC-7, da pickle wrote: >>>>>>> On 11/3/2023 1:49 AM, Mossingen wrote:
    "da pickle" wrote in message
    news:2_CcnbSchrHopNn4...@giganews.com...

    The new speaker is a friend of mine ... a friendly nice and honest >>>>>>>> politician ... had to find in the House. [Or the other place.] >>>>>>>>

    _______________


    How in the world did he swing that? I'd never heard of this guy, there >>>>>>>> is infighting in the GOP, names bandied about, then poof! He appears >>>>>>>> out of nowhere as the Speaker.
    Come over for a visit and I will invite him over for dinner.

    Really nice guy.

    He is a piece of shit homophobe who argued to make 7% of Americans criminals because he didn’t agree with their sexual orientation. Not surprised you two bigots get along.
    You have fallen and cannot get up ... seek help.

    [Sorry if this fact is because of your medical condition ... it is hard >>>>> to be as sick as you are.]
    In other words you have nothing. Like I said, you are every bit the bigoted piece of shit your asshole buddy is.

    And not only is he a world class bigot, he is also a complete fucking idiot:

    “Johnson holds young-Earth creationist beliefs.[112] He helped the Creation Museum secure millions of dollars of tax subsidies to build a life-sized Ark Encounter which teaches dinosaurs accompanied Noah during the flood.[113] In 2016, Johnson
    delivered a sermon that called the teaching of evolution one of the causes of mass shootings: "People say, 'How can a young person go into their schoolhouse and open fire on their classmates?' Because we've taught a whole generation—a couple
    generations now—of Americans, that there's no right or wrong, that it's about survival of the fittest, and you evolve from the primordial slime. Why is that life of any sacred value? Because there's nobody sacred to whom it's owed."[104][114]
    So, in Canada Christians are persecuted? Should we no longer let anyone
    who is a Christian hold public office? How about the Muslims? Just
    kill all them too? Surely you want the Jews to go too. No question
    about that. Maybe you should be dictator and then everything would be
    "perfect".

    "bigot" defines you perfectly

    One strawman after another. I said he is a bigot and an idiot. Anyone who thinks the Earth is 5000 years old and that Noah built an arc and filled it with dinosaurs is a fucking moron. Doesn’t matter if they call it “religion” or not. Anyone who
    wants to criminalize being gay is a lowlife bigot. Doesn’t matter if they call it “religion” or not. You CHOOSE to accept those beliefs or not. He has chosen to be a bigot, Nobody is forcing him to believe that crap. Like I said, it doesn’t
    surprise me in the least that you think a piece of shit like that is a great guy and that you get along swimmingly.

    YOU Blab are the "bigot" ... maybe not world class ... just classless.

    Stop those Christians and Jews and whoever else believes something you
    do not believe ... amazing. They are all "believers" and you are the
    "bigot".

    big·ot
    /ˈbiɡət/
    noun
    a person who is obstinately or unreasonably attached to a belief,
    opinion, or faction, especially one who is prejudiced against or
    antagonistic toward a person or people on the basis of their membership
    of a particular group.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From William Bradley@21:1/5 to da pickle on Sun Nov 5 09:04:59 2023
    On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 8:54:26 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/5/2023 10:13 AM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 6:00:41 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/4/2023 6:46 PM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Saturday, November 4, 2023 at 2:04:39 PM UTC-7, William Bradley wrote:
    On Saturday, November 4, 2023 at 10:30:39 AM UTC-7, da pickle wrote: >>>>> On 11/4/2023 1:40 AM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Friday, November 3, 2023 at 9:59:28 AM UTC-7, da pickle wrote: >>>>>>> On 11/3/2023 1:49 AM, Mossingen wrote:
    "da pickle" wrote in message
    news:2_CcnbSchrHopNn4...@giganews.com...

    The new speaker is a friend of mine ... a friendly nice and honest >>>>>>>> politician ... had to find in the House. [Or the other place.] >>>>>>>>

    _______________


    How in the world did he swing that? I'd never heard of this guy, there
    is infighting in the GOP, names bandied about, then poof! He appears
    out of nowhere as the Speaker.
    Come over for a visit and I will invite him over for dinner.

    Really nice guy.

    He is a piece of shit homophobe who argued to make 7% of Americans criminals because he didn’t agree with their sexual orientation. Not surprised you two bigots get along.
    You have fallen and cannot get up ... seek help.

    [Sorry if this fact is because of your medical condition ... it is hard
    to be as sick as you are.]
    In other words you have nothing. Like I said, you are every bit the bigoted piece of shit your asshole buddy is.

    And not only is he a world class bigot, he is also a complete fucking idiot:

    “Johnson holds young-Earth creationist beliefs.[112] He helped the Creation Museum secure millions of dollars of tax subsidies to build a life-sized Ark Encounter which teaches dinosaurs accompanied Noah during the flood.[113] In 2016, Johnson
    delivered a sermon that called the teaching of evolution one of the causes of mass shootings: "People say, 'How can a young person go into their schoolhouse and open fire on their classmates?' Because we've taught a whole generation—a couple
    generations now—of Americans, that there's no right or wrong, that it's about survival of the fittest, and you evolve from the primordial slime. Why is that life of any sacred value? Because there's nobody sacred to whom it's owed."[104][114]
    So, in Canada Christians are persecuted? Should we no longer let anyone >> who is a Christian hold public office? How about the Muslims? Just
    kill all them too? Surely you want the Jews to go too. No question
    about that. Maybe you should be dictator and then everything would be
    "perfect".

    "bigot" defines you perfectly

    One strawman after another. I said he is a bigot and an idiot. Anyone who thinks the Earth is 5000 years old and that Noah built an arc and filled it with dinosaurs is a fucking moron. Doesn’t matter if they call it “religion” or not. Anyone
    who wants to criminalize being gay is a lowlife bigot. Doesn’t matter if they call it “religion” or not. You CHOOSE to accept those beliefs or not. He has chosen to be a bigot, Nobody is forcing him to believe that crap. Like I said, it doesn’t
    surprise me in the least that you think a piece of shit like that is a great guy and that you get along swimmingly.
    YOU Blab are the "bigot" ... maybe not world class ... just classless.

    Stop those Christians and Jews and whoever else believes something you
    do not believe ... amazing. They are all "believers" and you are the "bigot".

    big·ot
    /ˈbiɡət/
    noun
    a person who is obstinately or unreasonably attached to a belief,
    opinion, or faction, especially one who is prejudiced against or antagonistic toward a person or people on the basis of their membership
    of a particular group.

    Yes, that describes the two of you perfectly. Criminalize being gay? And I’m the bigot for calling out HIS extreme bigotry as you defend his persecution of gay people and tell everyone what a great guy he is? You are a joke.

    Pickle Louisiana logic: “My Nazi friend is a great guy. Sure, he believes all Jews should be thrown in the ovens, but he has to believe that because he’s a Nazi. We can’t hold that against him. If you hate someone just because they want to throw
    all Jews in the ovens then YOU are the bigot, not him.”

    Do the world a favour and go on a cruise and never come back.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From da pickle@21:1/5 to William Bradley on Sun Nov 5 11:27:37 2023
    On 11/5/2023 11:04 AM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 8:54:26 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/5/2023 10:13 AM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 6:00:41 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/4/2023 6:46 PM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Saturday, November 4, 2023 at 2:04:39 PM UTC-7, William Bradley wrote:
    On Saturday, November 4, 2023 at 10:30:39 AM UTC-7, da pickle wrote: >>>>>>> On 11/4/2023 1:40 AM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Friday, November 3, 2023 at 9:59:28 AM UTC-7, da pickle wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 11/3/2023 1:49 AM, Mossingen wrote:
    "da pickle" wrote in message
    news:2_CcnbSchrHopNn4...@giganews.com...

    The new speaker is a friend of mine ... a friendly nice and honest >>>>>>>>>> politician ... had to find in the House. [Or the other place.] >>>>>>>>>>

    _______________


    How in the world did he swing that? I'd never heard of this guy, there
    is infighting in the GOP, names bandied about, then poof! He appears >>>>>>>>>> out of nowhere as the Speaker.
    Come over for a visit and I will invite him over for dinner. >>>>>>>>>
    Really nice guy.

    He is a piece of shit homophobe who argued to make 7% of Americans criminals because he didn’t agree with their sexual orientation. Not surprised you two bigots get along.
    You have fallen and cannot get up ... seek help.

    [Sorry if this fact is because of your medical condition ... it is hard >>>>>>> to be as sick as you are.]
    In other words you have nothing. Like I said, you are every bit the bigoted piece of shit your asshole buddy is.

    And not only is he a world class bigot, he is also a complete fucking idiot:

    “Johnson holds young-Earth creationist beliefs.[112] He helped the Creation Museum secure millions of dollars of tax subsidies to build a life-sized Ark Encounter which teaches dinosaurs accompanied Noah during the flood.[113] In 2016, Johnson
    delivered a sermon that called the teaching of evolution one of the causes of mass shootings: "People say, 'How can a young person go into their schoolhouse and open fire on their classmates?' Because we've taught a whole generation—a couple
    generations now—of Americans, that there's no right or wrong, that it's about survival of the fittest, and you evolve from the primordial slime. Why is that life of any sacred value? Because there's nobody sacred to whom it's owed."[104][114]
    So, in Canada Christians are persecuted? Should we no longer let anyone >>>> who is a Christian hold public office? How about the Muslims? Just
    kill all them too? Surely you want the Jews to go too. No question
    about that. Maybe you should be dictator and then everything would be
    "perfect".

    "bigot" defines you perfectly

    One strawman after another. I said he is a bigot and an idiot. Anyone who thinks the Earth is 5000 years old and that Noah built an arc and filled it with dinosaurs is a fucking moron. Doesn’t matter if they call it “religion” or not. Anyone
    who wants to criminalize being gay is a lowlife bigot. Doesn’t matter if they call it “religion” or not. You CHOOSE to accept those beliefs or not. He has chosen to be a bigot, Nobody is forcing him to believe that crap. Like I said, it doesn’t
    surprise me in the least that you think a piece of shit like that is a great guy and that you get along swimmingly.
    YOU Blab are the "bigot" ... maybe not world class ... just classless.

    Stop those Christians and Jews and whoever else believes something you
    do not believe ... amazing. They are all "believers" and you are the
    "bigot".

    big·ot
    /ˈbiɡət/
    noun
    a person who is obstinately or unreasonably attached to a belief,
    opinion, or faction, especially one who is prejudiced against or
    antagonistic toward a person or people on the basis of their membership
    of a particular group.

    Yes, that describes the two of you perfectly. Criminalize being gay? And I’m the bigot for calling out HIS extreme bigotry as you defend his persecution of gay people and tell everyone what a great guy he is? You are a joke.

    Pickle Louisiana logic: “My Nazi friend is a great guy. Sure, he believes all Jews should be thrown in the ovens, but he has to believe that because he’s a Nazi. We can’t hold that against him. If you hate someone just because they want to throw
    all Jews in the ovens then YOU are the bigot, not him.”

    Do the world a favour and go on a cruise and never come back.

    Mike Johnson (nor I) ever criminalized anyone for being gay. He has
    never persecuted any person for being gay. Apparently YOUR Nazi friend
    has a view of history that you do not find fault with ... lots of folks
    were eugenicists before (during) the second world war. I do not think
    they were in favor of exterminating the Jews, but they did have an
    opinion about superior species. But that was then, this is now.

    You, Blab, are the bigot. You also have lost your verve ... maybe you
    really are terminally ill ... if so, we will all pray for you ... in our
    own ways.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From William Bradley@21:1/5 to da pickle on Sun Nov 5 09:34:13 2023
    On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 9:27:54 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/5/2023 11:04 AM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 8:54:26 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/5/2023 10:13 AM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 6:00:41 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/4/2023 6:46 PM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Saturday, November 4, 2023 at 2:04:39 PM UTC-7, William Bradley wrote:
    On Saturday, November 4, 2023 at 10:30:39 AM UTC-7, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/4/2023 1:40 AM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Friday, November 3, 2023 at 9:59:28 AM UTC-7, da pickle wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 11/3/2023 1:49 AM, Mossingen wrote:
    "da pickle" wrote in message
    news:2_CcnbSchrHopNn4...@giganews.com...

    The new speaker is a friend of mine ... a friendly nice and honest
    politician ... had to find in the House. [Or the other place.] >>>>>>>>>>

    _______________


    How in the world did he swing that? I'd never heard of this guy, there
    is infighting in the GOP, names bandied about, then poof! He appears
    out of nowhere as the Speaker.
    Come over for a visit and I will invite him over for dinner. >>>>>>>>>
    Really nice guy.

    He is a piece of shit homophobe who argued to make 7% of Americans criminals because he didn’t agree with their sexual orientation. Not surprised you two bigots get along.
    You have fallen and cannot get up ... seek help.

    [Sorry if this fact is because of your medical condition ... it is hard
    to be as sick as you are.]
    In other words you have nothing. Like I said, you are every bit the bigoted piece of shit your asshole buddy is.

    And not only is he a world class bigot, he is also a complete fucking idiot:

    “Johnson holds young-Earth creationist beliefs.[112] He helped the Creation Museum secure millions of dollars of tax subsidies to build a life-sized Ark Encounter which teaches dinosaurs accompanied Noah during the flood.[113] In 2016, Johnson
    delivered a sermon that called the teaching of evolution one of the causes of mass shootings: "People say, 'How can a young person go into their schoolhouse and open fire on their classmates?' Because we've taught a whole generation—a couple
    generations now—of Americans, that there's no right or wrong, that it's about survival of the fittest, and you evolve from the primordial slime. Why is that life of any sacred value? Because there's nobody sacred to whom it's owed."[104][114]
    So, in Canada Christians are persecuted? Should we no longer let anyone >>>> who is a Christian hold public office? How about the Muslims? Just
    kill all them too? Surely you want the Jews to go too. No question
    about that. Maybe you should be dictator and then everything would be >>>> "perfect".

    "bigot" defines you perfectly

    One strawman after another. I said he is a bigot and an idiot. Anyone who thinks the Earth is 5000 years old and that Noah built an arc and filled it with dinosaurs is a fucking moron. Doesn’t matter if they call it “religion” or not. Anyone
    who wants to criminalize being gay is a lowlife bigot. Doesn’t matter if they call it “religion” or not. You CHOOSE to accept those beliefs or not. He has chosen to be a bigot, Nobody is forcing him to believe that crap. Like I said, it doesn’t
    surprise me in the least that you think a piece of shit like that is a great guy and that you get along swimmingly.
    YOU Blab are the "bigot" ... maybe not world class ... just classless.

    Stop those Christians and Jews and whoever else believes something you
    do not believe ... amazing. They are all "believers" and you are the
    "bigot".

    big·ot
    /ˈbiɡət/
    noun
    a person who is obstinately or unreasonably attached to a belief,
    opinion, or faction, especially one who is prejudiced against or
    antagonistic toward a person or people on the basis of their membership >> of a particular group.

    Yes, that describes the two of you perfectly. Criminalize being gay? And I’m the bigot for calling out HIS extreme bigotry as you defend his persecution of gay people and tell everyone what a great guy he is? You are a joke.

    Pickle Louisiana logic: “My Nazi friend is a great guy. Sure, he believes all Jews should be thrown in the ovens, but he has to believe that because he’s a Nazi. We can’t hold that against him. If you hate someone just because they want to
    throw all Jews in the ovens then YOU are the bigot, not him.”

    Do the world a favour and go on a cruise and never come back.
    Mike Johnson (nor I) ever criminalized anyone for being gay. He has
    never persecuted any person for being gay. Apparently YOUR Nazi friend
    has a view of history that you do not find fault with ... lots of folks
    were eugenicists before (during) the second world war. I do not think
    they were in favor of exterminating the Jews, but they did have an
    opinion about superior species. But that was then, this is now.

    You, Blab, are the bigot. You also have lost your verve ... maybe you
    really are terminally ill ... if so, we will all pray for you ... in our
    own ways.

    Another low-IQ strawman. I didn’t say he or you criminalized being gay. He obviously would if he had that power, but I said he argued for it, which is a fact.

    Any more bullshit to defend your extreme bigotry and that of your wonderful friend?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to William Bradley on Sun Nov 5 10:47:33 2023
    On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 8:13:55 AM UTC-8, William Bradley wrote:
    On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 6:00:41 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/4/2023 6:46 PM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Saturday, November 4, 2023 at 2:04:39 PM UTC-7, William Bradley wrote:
    On Saturday, November 4, 2023 at 10:30:39 AM UTC-7, da pickle wrote: >>> On 11/4/2023 1:40 AM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Friday, November 3, 2023 at 9:59:28 AM UTC-7, da pickle wrote: >>>>> On 11/3/2023 1:49 AM, Mossingen wrote:
    "da pickle" wrote in message
    news:2_CcnbSchrHopNn4...@giganews.com...

    The new speaker is a friend of mine ... a friendly nice and honest >>>>>> politician ... had to find in the House. [Or the other place.] >>>>>>

    _______________


    How in the world did he swing that? I'd never heard of this guy, there
    is infighting in the GOP, names bandied about, then poof! He appears
    out of nowhere as the Speaker.
    Come over for a visit and I will invite him over for dinner.

    Really nice guy.

    He is a piece of shit homophobe who argued to make 7% of Americans criminals because he didn’t agree with their sexual orientation. Not surprised you two bigots get along.
    You have fallen and cannot get up ... seek help.

    [Sorry if this fact is because of your medical condition ... it is hard
    to be as sick as you are.]
    In other words you have nothing. Like I said, you are every bit the bigoted piece of shit your asshole buddy is.

    And not only is he a world class bigot, he is also a complete fucking idiot:

    “Johnson holds young-Earth creationist beliefs.[112] He helped the Creation Museum secure millions of dollars of tax subsidies to build a life-sized Ark Encounter which teaches dinosaurs accompanied Noah during the flood.[113] In 2016, Johnson
    delivered a sermon that called the teaching of evolution one of the causes of mass shootings: "People say, 'How can a young person go into their schoolhouse and open fire on their classmates?' Because we've taught a whole generation—a couple
    generations now—of Americans, that there's no right or wrong, that it's about survival of the fittest, and you evolve from the primordial slime. Why is that life of any sacred value? Because there's nobody sacred to whom it's owed."[104][114]
    So, in Canada Christians are persecuted? Should we no longer let anyone who is a Christian hold public office? How about the Muslims? Just
    kill all them too? Surely you want the Jews to go too. No question
    about that. Maybe you should be dictator and then everything would be "perfect".

    "bigot" defines you perfectly
    .

    One strawman after another. I said he is a bigot and an idiot. Anyone who thinks the Earth is 5000 years old and that Noah built an arc and filled it with dinosaurs is a fucking moron. Doesn’t matter if they call it “religion” or not. Anyone who
    wants to criminalize being gay is a lowlife bigot. Doesn’t matter if they call it “religion” or not. You CHOOSE to accept those beliefs or not. He has chosen to be a bigot, Nobody is forcing him to believe that crap. Like I said, it doesn’t
    surprise me in the least that you think a piece of shit like that is a great guy and that you get along swimmingly.
    .

    And again, no denial from Pickle....
    (Only Dodge & Run,,,)

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From da pickle@21:1/5 to William Bradley on Sun Nov 5 20:03:27 2023
    On 11/5/2023 11:34 AM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 9:27:54 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/5/2023 11:04 AM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 8:54:26 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/5/2023 10:13 AM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 6:00:41 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote: >>>>>> On 11/4/2023 6:46 PM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Saturday, November 4, 2023 at 2:04:39 PM UTC-7, William Bradley wrote:
    On Saturday, November 4, 2023 at 10:30:39 AM UTC-7, da pickle wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 11/4/2023 1:40 AM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Friday, November 3, 2023 at 9:59:28 AM UTC-7, da pickle wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On 11/3/2023 1:49 AM, Mossingen wrote:
    "da pickle" wrote in message
    news:2_CcnbSchrHopNn4...@giganews.com...

    The new speaker is a friend of mine ... a friendly nice and honest >>>>>>>>>>>> politician ... had to find in the House. [Or the other place.] >>>>>>>>>>>>

    _______________


    How in the world did he swing that? I'd never heard of this guy, there
    is infighting in the GOP, names bandied about, then poof! He appears
    out of nowhere as the Speaker.
    Come over for a visit and I will invite him over for dinner. >>>>>>>>>>>
    Really nice guy.

    He is a piece of shit homophobe who argued to make 7% of Americans criminals because he didn’t agree with their sexual orientation. Not surprised you two bigots get along.
    You have fallen and cannot get up ... seek help.

    [Sorry if this fact is because of your medical condition ... it is hard
    to be as sick as you are.]
    In other words you have nothing. Like I said, you are every bit the bigoted piece of shit your asshole buddy is.

    And not only is he a world class bigot, he is also a complete fucking idiot:

    “Johnson holds young-Earth creationist beliefs.[112] He helped the Creation Museum secure millions of dollars of tax subsidies to build a life-sized Ark Encounter which teaches dinosaurs accompanied Noah during the flood.[113] In 2016, Johnson
    delivered a sermon that called the teaching of evolution one of the causes of mass shootings: "People say, 'How can a young person go into their schoolhouse and open fire on their classmates?' Because we've taught a whole generation—a couple
    generations now—of Americans, that there's no right or wrong, that it's about survival of the fittest, and you evolve from the primordial slime. Why is that life of any sacred value? Because there's nobody sacred to whom it's owed."[104][114]
    So, in Canada Christians are persecuted? Should we no longer let anyone >>>>>> who is a Christian hold public office? How about the Muslims? Just >>>>>> kill all them too? Surely you want the Jews to go too. No question >>>>>> about that. Maybe you should be dictator and then everything would be >>>>>> "perfect".

    "bigot" defines you perfectly

    One strawman after another. I said he is a bigot and an idiot. Anyone who thinks the Earth is 5000 years old and that Noah built an arc and filled it with dinosaurs is a fucking moron. Doesn’t matter if they call it “religion” or not. Anyone
    who wants to criminalize being gay is a lowlife bigot. Doesn’t matter if they call it “religion” or not. You CHOOSE to accept those beliefs or not. He has chosen to be a bigot, Nobody is forcing him to believe that crap. Like I said, it doesn’t
    surprise me in the least that you think a piece of shit like that is a great guy and that you get along swimmingly.
    YOU Blab are the "bigot" ... maybe not world class ... just classless. >>>>
    Stop those Christians and Jews and whoever else believes something you >>>> do not believe ... amazing. They are all "believers" and you are the
    "bigot".

    big·ot
    /ˈbiɡət/
    noun
    a person who is obstinately or unreasonably attached to a belief,
    opinion, or faction, especially one who is prejudiced against or
    antagonistic toward a person or people on the basis of their membership >>>> of a particular group.

    Yes, that describes the two of you perfectly. Criminalize being gay? And I’m the bigot for calling out HIS extreme bigotry as you defend his persecution of gay people and tell everyone what a great guy he is? You are a joke.

    Pickle Louisiana logic: “My Nazi friend is a great guy. Sure, he believes all Jews should be thrown in the ovens, but he has to believe that because he’s a Nazi. We can’t hold that against him. If you hate someone just because they want to
    throw all Jews in the ovens then YOU are the bigot, not him.”

    Do the world a favour and go on a cruise and never come back.
    Mike Johnson (nor I) ever criminalized anyone for being gay. He has
    never persecuted any person for being gay. Apparently YOUR Nazi friend
    has a view of history that you do not find fault with ... lots of folks
    were eugenicists before (during) the second world war. I do not think
    they were in favor of exterminating the Jews, but they did have an
    opinion about superior species. But that was then, this is now.

    You, Blab, are the bigot. You also have lost your verve ... maybe you
    really are terminally ill ... if so, we will all pray for you ... in our
    own ways.

    Another low-IQ strawman. I didn’t say he or you criminalized being gay. He obviously would if he had that power, but I said he argued for it, which is a fact.

    Any more bullshit to defend your extreme bigotry and that of your wonderful friend?

    More pf the same, Blab ... more of the same. Keep up with your Nazi
    friends ... birds of a feather.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From William Bradley@21:1/5 to da pickle on Sun Nov 5 18:26:02 2023
    On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 6:03:44 PM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/5/2023 11:34 AM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 9:27:54 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/5/2023 11:04 AM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 8:54:26 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/5/2023 10:13 AM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 6:00:41 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote: >>>>>> On 11/4/2023 6:46 PM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Saturday, November 4, 2023 at 2:04:39 PM UTC-7, William Bradley wrote:
    On Saturday, November 4, 2023 at 10:30:39 AM UTC-7, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/4/2023 1:40 AM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Friday, November 3, 2023 at 9:59:28 AM UTC-7, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/3/2023 1:49 AM, Mossingen wrote:
    "da pickle" wrote in message
    news:2_CcnbSchrHopNn4...@giganews.com...

    The new speaker is a friend of mine ... a friendly nice and honest
    politician ... had to find in the House. [Or the other place.] >>>>>>>>>>>>

    _______________


    How in the world did he swing that? I'd never heard of this guy, there
    is infighting in the GOP, names bandied about, then poof! He appears
    out of nowhere as the Speaker.
    Come over for a visit and I will invite him over for dinner. >>>>>>>>>>>
    Really nice guy.

    He is a piece of shit homophobe who argued to make 7% of Americans criminals because he didn’t agree with their sexual orientation. Not surprised you two bigots get along.
    You have fallen and cannot get up ... seek help.

    [Sorry if this fact is because of your medical condition ... it is hard
    to be as sick as you are.]
    In other words you have nothing. Like I said, you are every bit the bigoted piece of shit your asshole buddy is.

    And not only is he a world class bigot, he is also a complete fucking idiot:

    “Johnson holds young-Earth creationist beliefs.[112] He helped the Creation Museum secure millions of dollars of tax subsidies to build a life-sized Ark Encounter which teaches dinosaurs accompanied Noah during the flood.[113] In 2016,
    Johnson delivered a sermon that called the teaching of evolution one of the causes of mass shootings: "People say, 'How can a young person go into their schoolhouse and open fire on their classmates?' Because we've taught a whole generation—a couple
    generations now—of Americans, that there's no right or wrong, that it's about survival of the fittest, and you evolve from the primordial slime. Why is that life of any sacred value? Because there's nobody sacred to whom it's owed."[104][114]
    So, in Canada Christians are persecuted? Should we no longer let anyone
    who is a Christian hold public office? How about the Muslims? Just >>>>>> kill all them too? Surely you want the Jews to go too. No question >>>>>> about that. Maybe you should be dictator and then everything would be >>>>>> "perfect".

    "bigot" defines you perfectly

    One strawman after another. I said he is a bigot and an idiot. Anyone who thinks the Earth is 5000 years old and that Noah built an arc and filled it with dinosaurs is a fucking moron. Doesn’t matter if they call it “religion” or not.
    Anyone who wants to criminalize being gay is a lowlife bigot. Doesn’t matter if they call it “religion” or not. You CHOOSE to accept those beliefs or not. He has chosen to be a bigot, Nobody is forcing him to believe that crap. Like I said, it
    doesn’t surprise me in the least that you think a piece of shit like that is a great guy and that you get along swimmingly.
    YOU Blab are the "bigot" ... maybe not world class ... just classless. >>>>
    Stop those Christians and Jews and whoever else believes something you >>>> do not believe ... amazing. They are all "believers" and you are the >>>> "bigot".

    big·ot
    /ˈbiɡət/
    noun
    a person who is obstinately or unreasonably attached to a belief,
    opinion, or faction, especially one who is prejudiced against or
    antagonistic toward a person or people on the basis of their membership >>>> of a particular group.

    Yes, that describes the two of you perfectly. Criminalize being gay? And I’m the bigot for calling out HIS extreme bigotry as you defend his persecution of gay people and tell everyone what a great guy he is? You are a joke.

    Pickle Louisiana logic: “My Nazi friend is a great guy. Sure, he believes all Jews should be thrown in the ovens, but he has to believe that because he’s a Nazi. We can’t hold that against him. If you hate someone just because they want to
    throw all Jews in the ovens then YOU are the bigot, not him.”

    Do the world a favour and go on a cruise and never come back.
    Mike Johnson (nor I) ever criminalized anyone for being gay. He has
    never persecuted any person for being gay. Apparently YOUR Nazi friend
    has a view of history that you do not find fault with ... lots of folks >> were eugenicists before (during) the second world war. I do not think
    they were in favor of exterminating the Jews, but they did have an
    opinion about superior species. But that was then, this is now.

    You, Blab, are the bigot. You also have lost your verve ... maybe you
    really are terminally ill ... if so, we will all pray for you ... in our >> own ways.

    Another low-IQ strawman. I didn’t say he or you criminalized being gay. He obviously would if he had that power, but I said he argued for it, which is a fact.

    Any more bullshit to defend your extreme bigotry and that of your wonderful friend?
    More pf the same, Blab ... more of the same. Keep up with your Nazi
    friends ... birds of a feather.

    You are the one who told everyone what great guy the piece of shit homophobe bigot is, not me.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From da pickle@21:1/5 to William Bradley on Mon Nov 6 07:40:32 2023
    On 11/5/2023 8:26 PM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 6:03:44 PM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/5/2023 11:34 AM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 9:27:54 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/5/2023 11:04 AM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 8:54:26 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote: >>>>>> On 11/5/2023 10:13 AM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 6:00:41 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote: >>>>>>>> On 11/4/2023 6:46 PM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Saturday, November 4, 2023 at 2:04:39 PM UTC-7, William Bradley wrote:
    On Saturday, November 4, 2023 at 10:30:39 AM UTC-7, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/4/2023 1:40 AM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Friday, November 3, 2023 at 9:59:28 AM UTC-7, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/3/2023 1:49 AM, Mossingen wrote:
    "da pickle" wrote in message
    news:2_CcnbSchrHopNn4...@giganews.com...

    The new speaker is a friend of mine ... a friendly nice and honest
    politician ... had to find in the House. [Or the other place.] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    _______________


    How in the world did he swing that? I'd never heard of this guy, there
    is infighting in the GOP, names bandied about, then poof! He appears
    out of nowhere as the Speaker.
    Come over for a visit and I will invite him over for dinner. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Really nice guy.

    He is a piece of shit homophobe who argued to make 7% of Americans criminals because he didn’t agree with their sexual orientation. Not surprised you two bigots get along.
    You have fallen and cannot get up ... seek help.

    [Sorry if this fact is because of your medical condition ... it is hard
    to be as sick as you are.]
    In other words you have nothing. Like I said, you are every bit the bigoted piece of shit your asshole buddy is.

    And not only is he a world class bigot, he is also a complete fucking idiot:

    “Johnson holds young-Earth creationist beliefs.[112] He helped the Creation Museum secure millions of dollars of tax subsidies to build a life-sized Ark Encounter which teaches dinosaurs accompanied Noah during the flood.[113] In 2016,
    Johnson delivered a sermon that called the teaching of evolution one of the causes of mass shootings: "People say, 'How can a young person go into their schoolhouse and open fire on their classmates?' Because we've taught a whole generation—a couple
    generations now—of Americans, that there's no right or wrong, that it's about survival of the fittest, and you evolve from the primordial slime. Why is that life of any sacred value? Because there's nobody sacred to whom it's owed."[104][114]
    So, in Canada Christians are persecuted? Should we no longer let anyone
    who is a Christian hold public office? How about the Muslims? Just >>>>>>>> kill all them too? Surely you want the Jews to go too. No question >>>>>>>> about that. Maybe you should be dictator and then everything would be >>>>>>>> "perfect".

    "bigot" defines you perfectly

    One strawman after another. I said he is a bigot and an idiot. Anyone who thinks the Earth is 5000 years old and that Noah built an arc and filled it with dinosaurs is a fucking moron. Doesn’t matter if they call it “religion” or not.
    Anyone who wants to criminalize being gay is a lowlife bigot. Doesn’t matter if they call it “religion” or not. You CHOOSE to accept those beliefs or not. He has chosen to be a bigot, Nobody is forcing him to believe that crap. Like I said, it
    doesn’t surprise me in the least that you think a piece of shit like that is a great guy and that you get along swimmingly.
    YOU Blab are the "bigot" ... maybe not world class ... just classless. >>>>>>
    Stop those Christians and Jews and whoever else believes something you >>>>>> do not believe ... amazing. They are all "believers" and you are the >>>>>> "bigot".

    big·ot
    /ˈbiɡət/
    noun
    a person who is obstinately or unreasonably attached to a belief,
    opinion, or faction, especially one who is prejudiced against or
    antagonistic toward a person or people on the basis of their membership >>>>>> of a particular group.

    Yes, that describes the two of you perfectly. Criminalize being gay? And I’m the bigot for calling out HIS extreme bigotry as you defend his persecution of gay people and tell everyone what a great guy he is? You are a joke.

    Pickle Louisiana logic: “My Nazi friend is a great guy. Sure, he believes all Jews should be thrown in the ovens, but he has to believe that because he’s a Nazi. We can’t hold that against him. If you hate someone just because they want to
    throw all Jews in the ovens then YOU are the bigot, not him.”

    Do the world a favour and go on a cruise and never come back.
    Mike Johnson (nor I) ever criminalized anyone for being gay. He has
    never persecuted any person for being gay. Apparently YOUR Nazi friend >>>> has a view of history that you do not find fault with ... lots of folks >>>> were eugenicists before (during) the second world war. I do not think
    they were in favor of exterminating the Jews, but they did have an
    opinion about superior species. But that was then, this is now.

    You, Blab, are the bigot. You also have lost your verve ... maybe you
    really are terminally ill ... if so, we will all pray for you ... in our >>>> own ways.

    Another low-IQ strawman. I didn’t say he or you criminalized being gay. He obviously would if he had that power, but I said he argued for it, which is a fact.

    Any more bullshit to defend your extreme bigotry and that of your wonderful friend?
    More pf the same, Blab ... more of the same. Keep up with your Nazi
    friends ... birds of a feather.

    You are the one who told everyone what great guy the piece of shit homophobe bigot is, not me.
    You have fallen and cannot get up ... you are a sad case.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From William Bradley@21:1/5 to da pickle on Mon Nov 6 08:46:15 2023
    On Monday, November 6, 2023 at 5:40:47 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/5/2023 8:26 PM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 6:03:44 PM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/5/2023 11:34 AM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 9:27:54 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/5/2023 11:04 AM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 8:54:26 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote: >>>>>> On 11/5/2023 10:13 AM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 6:00:41 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote: >>>>>>>> On 11/4/2023 6:46 PM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Saturday, November 4, 2023 at 2:04:39 PM UTC-7, William Bradley wrote:
    On Saturday, November 4, 2023 at 10:30:39 AM UTC-7, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/4/2023 1:40 AM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Friday, November 3, 2023 at 9:59:28 AM UTC-7, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/3/2023 1:49 AM, Mossingen wrote:
    "da pickle" wrote in message
    news:2_CcnbSchrHopNn4...@giganews.com...

    The new speaker is a friend of mine ... a friendly nice and honest
    politician ... had to find in the House. [Or the other place.]


    _______________


    How in the world did he swing that? I'd never heard of this guy, there
    is infighting in the GOP, names bandied about, then poof! He appears
    out of nowhere as the Speaker.
    Come over for a visit and I will invite him over for dinner. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Really nice guy.

    He is a piece of shit homophobe who argued to make 7% of Americans criminals because he didn’t agree with their sexual orientation. Not surprised you two bigots get along.
    You have fallen and cannot get up ... seek help.

    [Sorry if this fact is because of your medical condition ... it is hard
    to be as sick as you are.]
    In other words you have nothing. Like I said, you are every bit the bigoted piece of shit your asshole buddy is.

    And not only is he a world class bigot, he is also a complete fucking idiot:

    “Johnson holds young-Earth creationist beliefs.[112] He helped the Creation Museum secure millions of dollars of tax subsidies to build a life-sized Ark Encounter which teaches dinosaurs accompanied Noah during the flood.[113] In 2016,
    Johnson delivered a sermon that called the teaching of evolution one of the causes of mass shootings: "People say, 'How can a young person go into their schoolhouse and open fire on their classmates?' Because we've taught a whole generation—a couple
    generations now—of Americans, that there's no right or wrong, that it's about survival of the fittest, and you evolve from the primordial slime. Why is that life of any sacred value? Because there's nobody sacred to whom it's owed."[104][114]
    So, in Canada Christians are persecuted? Should we no longer let anyone
    who is a Christian hold public office? How about the Muslims? Just >>>>>>>> kill all them too? Surely you want the Jews to go too. No question >>>>>>>> about that. Maybe you should be dictator and then everything would be
    "perfect".

    "bigot" defines you perfectly

    One strawman after another. I said he is a bigot and an idiot. Anyone who thinks the Earth is 5000 years old and that Noah built an arc and filled it with dinosaurs is a fucking moron. Doesn’t matter if they call it “religion” or not.
    Anyone who wants to criminalize being gay is a lowlife bigot. Doesn’t matter if they call it “religion” or not. You CHOOSE to accept those beliefs or not. He has chosen to be a bigot, Nobody is forcing him to believe that crap. Like I said, it
    doesn’t surprise me in the least that you think a piece of shit like that is a great guy and that you get along swimmingly.
    YOU Blab are the "bigot" ... maybe not world class ... just classless.

    Stop those Christians and Jews and whoever else believes something you
    do not believe ... amazing. They are all "believers" and you are the >>>>>> "bigot".

    big·ot
    /ˈbiɡət/
    noun
    a person who is obstinately or unreasonably attached to a belief, >>>>>> opinion, or faction, especially one who is prejudiced against or >>>>>> antagonistic toward a person or people on the basis of their membership
    of a particular group.

    Yes, that describes the two of you perfectly. Criminalize being gay? And I’m the bigot for calling out HIS extreme bigotry as you defend his persecution of gay people and tell everyone what a great guy he is? You are a joke.

    Pickle Louisiana logic: “My Nazi friend is a great guy. Sure, he believes all Jews should be thrown in the ovens, but he has to believe that because he’s a Nazi. We can’t hold that against him. If you hate someone just because they want to
    throw all Jews in the ovens then YOU are the bigot, not him.”

    Do the world a favour and go on a cruise and never come back.
    Mike Johnson (nor I) ever criminalized anyone for being gay. He has >>>> never persecuted any person for being gay. Apparently YOUR Nazi friend >>>> has a view of history that you do not find fault with ... lots of folks >>>> were eugenicists before (during) the second world war. I do not think >>>> they were in favor of exterminating the Jews, but they did have an
    opinion about superior species. But that was then, this is now.

    You, Blab, are the bigot. You also have lost your verve ... maybe you >>>> really are terminally ill ... if so, we will all pray for you ... in our
    own ways.

    Another low-IQ strawman. I didn’t say he or you criminalized being gay. He obviously would if he had that power, but I said he argued for it, which is a fact.

    Any more bullshit to defend your extreme bigotry and that of your wonderful friend?
    More pf the same, Blab ... more of the same. Keep up with your Nazi
    friends ... birds of a feather.

    You are the one who told everyone what great guy the piece of shit homophobe bigot is, not me.
    You have fallen and cannot get up ... you are a sad case.

    Are you now pretending you did not tell everyone what a great guy that piece of garbage homophobic bigot is? It’s pointless to lie. Everyone read it.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From da pickle@21:1/5 to William Bradley on Tue Nov 7 17:09:46 2023
    On 11/6/2023 10:46 AM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Monday, November 6, 2023 at 5:40:47 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/5/2023 8:26 PM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 6:03:44 PM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/5/2023 11:34 AM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 9:27:54 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote: >>>>>> On 11/5/2023 11:04 AM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 8:54:26 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote: >>>>>>>> On 11/5/2023 10:13 AM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 6:00:41 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 11/4/2023 6:46 PM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Saturday, November 4, 2023 at 2:04:39 PM UTC-7, William Bradley wrote:
    On Saturday, November 4, 2023 at 10:30:39 AM UTC-7, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/4/2023 1:40 AM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Friday, November 3, 2023 at 9:59:28 AM UTC-7, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/3/2023 1:49 AM, Mossingen wrote:
    "da pickle" wrote in message
    news:2_CcnbSchrHopNn4...@giganews.com...

    The new speaker is a friend of mine ... a friendly nice and honest
    politician ... had to find in the House. [Or the other place.] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    _______________


    How in the world did he swing that? I'd never heard of this guy, there
    is infighting in the GOP, names bandied about, then poof! He appears
    out of nowhere as the Speaker.
    Come over for a visit and I will invite him over for dinner. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Really nice guy.

    He is a piece of shit homophobe who argued to make 7% of Americans criminals because he didn’t agree with their sexual orientation. Not surprised you two bigots get along.
    You have fallen and cannot get up ... seek help.

    [Sorry if this fact is because of your medical condition ... it is hard
    to be as sick as you are.]
    In other words you have nothing. Like I said, you are every bit the bigoted piece of shit your asshole buddy is.

    And not only is he a world class bigot, he is also a complete fucking idiot:

    “Johnson holds young-Earth creationist beliefs.[112] He helped the Creation Museum secure millions of dollars of tax subsidies to build a life-sized Ark Encounter which teaches dinosaurs accompanied Noah during the flood.[113] In 2016,
    Johnson delivered a sermon that called the teaching of evolution one of the causes of mass shootings: "People say, 'How can a young person go into their schoolhouse and open fire on their classmates?' Because we've taught a whole generation—a couple
    generations now—of Americans, that there's no right or wrong, that it's about survival of the fittest, and you evolve from the primordial slime. Why is that life of any sacred value? Because there's nobody sacred to whom it's owed."[104][114]
    So, in Canada Christians are persecuted? Should we no longer let anyone
    who is a Christian hold public office? How about the Muslims? Just >>>>>>>>>> kill all them too? Surely you want the Jews to go too. No question >>>>>>>>>> about that. Maybe you should be dictator and then everything would be
    "perfect".

    "bigot" defines you perfectly

    One strawman after another. I said he is a bigot and an idiot. Anyone who thinks the Earth is 5000 years old and that Noah built an arc and filled it with dinosaurs is a fucking moron. Doesn’t matter if they call it “religion” or not.
    Anyone who wants to criminalize being gay is a lowlife bigot. Doesn’t matter if they call it “religion” or not. You CHOOSE to accept those beliefs or not. He has chosen to be a bigot, Nobody is forcing him to believe that crap. Like I said, it
    doesn’t surprise me in the least that you think a piece of shit like that is a great guy and that you get along swimmingly.
    YOU Blab are the "bigot" ... maybe not world class ... just classless. >>>>>>>>
    Stop those Christians and Jews and whoever else believes something you >>>>>>>> do not believe ... amazing. They are all "believers" and you are the >>>>>>>> "bigot".

    big·ot
    /ˈbiɡət/
    noun
    a person who is obstinately or unreasonably attached to a belief, >>>>>>>> opinion, or faction, especially one who is prejudiced against or >>>>>>>> antagonistic toward a person or people on the basis of their membership
    of a particular group.

    Yes, that describes the two of you perfectly. Criminalize being gay? And I’m the bigot for calling out HIS extreme bigotry as you defend his persecution of gay people and tell everyone what a great guy he is? You are a joke.

    Pickle Louisiana logic: “My Nazi friend is a great guy. Sure, he believes all Jews should be thrown in the ovens, but he has to believe that because he’s a Nazi. We can’t hold that against him. If you hate someone just because they want to
    throw all Jews in the ovens then YOU are the bigot, not him.”

    Do the world a favour and go on a cruise and never come back.
    Mike Johnson (nor I) ever criminalized anyone for being gay. He has >>>>>> never persecuted any person for being gay. Apparently YOUR Nazi friend >>>>>> has a view of history that you do not find fault with ... lots of folks >>>>>> were eugenicists before (during) the second world war. I do not think >>>>>> they were in favor of exterminating the Jews, but they did have an >>>>>> opinion about superior species. But that was then, this is now.

    You, Blab, are the bigot. You also have lost your verve ... maybe you >>>>>> really are terminally ill ... if so, we will all pray for you ... in our >>>>>> own ways.

    Another low-IQ strawman. I didn’t say he or you criminalized being gay. He obviously would if he had that power, but I said he argued for it, which is a fact.

    Any more bullshit to defend your extreme bigotry and that of your wonderful friend?
    More pf the same, Blab ... more of the same. Keep up with your Nazi
    friends ... birds of a feather.

    You are the one who told everyone what great guy the piece of shit homophobe bigot is, not me.
    You have fallen and cannot get up ... you are a sad case.

    Are you now pretending you did not tell everyone what a great guy that piece of garbage homophobic bigot is? It’s pointless to lie. Everyone read it.

    So you hate Christians ... what else is new.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From William Bradley@21:1/5 to da pickle on Tue Nov 7 15:27:03 2023
    On Tuesday, November 7, 2023 at 3:09:59 PM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/6/2023 10:46 AM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Monday, November 6, 2023 at 5:40:47 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/5/2023 8:26 PM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 6:03:44 PM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/5/2023 11:34 AM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 9:27:54 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote: >>>>>> On 11/5/2023 11:04 AM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 8:54:26 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote: >>>>>>>> On 11/5/2023 10:13 AM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 6:00:41 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/4/2023 6:46 PM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Saturday, November 4, 2023 at 2:04:39 PM UTC-7, William Bradley wrote:
    On Saturday, November 4, 2023 at 10:30:39 AM UTC-7, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/4/2023 1:40 AM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Friday, November 3, 2023 at 9:59:28 AM UTC-7, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/3/2023 1:49 AM, Mossingen wrote:
    "da pickle" wrote in message
    news:2_CcnbSchrHopNn4...@giganews.com...

    The new speaker is a friend of mine ... a friendly nice and honest
    politician ... had to find in the House. [Or the other place.]


    _______________


    How in the world did he swing that? I'd never heard of this guy, there
    is infighting in the GOP, names bandied about, then poof! He appears
    out of nowhere as the Speaker.
    Come over for a visit and I will invite him over for dinner. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Really nice guy.

    He is a piece of shit homophobe who argued to make 7% of Americans criminals because he didn’t agree with their sexual orientation. Not surprised you two bigots get along.
    You have fallen and cannot get up ... seek help.

    [Sorry if this fact is because of your medical condition ... it is hard
    to be as sick as you are.]
    In other words you have nothing. Like I said, you are every bit the bigoted piece of shit your asshole buddy is.

    And not only is he a world class bigot, he is also a complete fucking idiot:

    “Johnson holds young-Earth creationist beliefs.[112] He helped the Creation Museum secure millions of dollars of tax subsidies to build a life-sized Ark Encounter which teaches dinosaurs accompanied Noah during the flood.[113] In 2016,
    Johnson delivered a sermon that called the teaching of evolution one of the causes of mass shootings: "People say, 'How can a young person go into their schoolhouse and open fire on their classmates?' Because we've taught a whole generation—a couple
    generations now—of Americans, that there's no right or wrong, that it's about survival of the fittest, and you evolve from the primordial slime. Why is that life of any sacred value? Because there's nobody sacred to whom it's owed."[104][114]
    So, in Canada Christians are persecuted? Should we no longer let anyone
    who is a Christian hold public office? How about the Muslims? Just
    kill all them too? Surely you want the Jews to go too. No question
    about that. Maybe you should be dictator and then everything would be
    "perfect".

    "bigot" defines you perfectly

    One strawman after another. I said he is a bigot and an idiot. Anyone who thinks the Earth is 5000 years old and that Noah built an arc and filled it with dinosaurs is a fucking moron. Doesn’t matter if they call it “religion” or not.
    Anyone who wants to criminalize being gay is a lowlife bigot. Doesn’t matter if they call it “religion” or not. You CHOOSE to accept those beliefs or not. He has chosen to be a bigot, Nobody is forcing him to believe that crap. Like I said, it
    doesn’t surprise me in the least that you think a piece of shit like that is a great guy and that you get along swimmingly.
    YOU Blab are the "bigot" ... maybe not world class ... just classless.

    Stop those Christians and Jews and whoever else believes something you
    do not believe ... amazing. They are all "believers" and you are the
    "bigot".

    big·ot
    /ˈbiɡət/
    noun
    a person who is obstinately or unreasonably attached to a belief, >>>>>>>> opinion, or faction, especially one who is prejudiced against or >>>>>>>> antagonistic toward a person or people on the basis of their membership
    of a particular group.

    Yes, that describes the two of you perfectly. Criminalize being gay? And I’m the bigot for calling out HIS extreme bigotry as you defend his persecution of gay people and tell everyone what a great guy he is? You are a joke.

    Pickle Louisiana logic: “My Nazi friend is a great guy. Sure, he believes all Jews should be thrown in the ovens, but he has to believe that because he’s a Nazi. We can’t hold that against him. If you hate someone just because they want
    to throw all Jews in the ovens then YOU are the bigot, not him.”

    Do the world a favour and go on a cruise and never come back.
    Mike Johnson (nor I) ever criminalized anyone for being gay. He has >>>>>> never persecuted any person for being gay. Apparently YOUR Nazi friend
    has a view of history that you do not find fault with ... lots of folks
    were eugenicists before (during) the second world war. I do not think >>>>>> they were in favor of exterminating the Jews, but they did have an >>>>>> opinion about superior species. But that was then, this is now. >>>>>>
    You, Blab, are the bigot. You also have lost your verve ... maybe you >>>>>> really are terminally ill ... if so, we will all pray for you ... in our
    own ways.

    Another low-IQ strawman. I didn’t say he or you criminalized being gay. He obviously would if he had that power, but I said he argued for it, which is a fact.

    Any more bullshit to defend your extreme bigotry and that of your wonderful friend?
    More pf the same, Blab ... more of the same. Keep up with your Nazi >>>> friends ... birds of a feather.

    You are the one who told everyone what great guy the piece of shit homophobe bigot is, not me.
    You have fallen and cannot get up ... you are a sad case.

    Are you now pretending you did not tell everyone what a great guy that piece of garbage homophobic bigot is? It’s pointless to lie. Everyone read it.
    So you hate Christians ... what else is new.

    No, I hate bigotry. We already covered hiding behind a “religion” or a “political ideology” as an excuse. Those things are choices. And no, hating bigotry does not make you a bigot. That is the reasoning of a mental case of your magnitude.

    Even though I don’t “hate” Christians (because some choose to ignore or reject the bigoted dogma), I do think Christians (and adherents to every other religion) are either morons or phonies, because what they claim to believe is absolutely
    ridiculous on its face. I believe the vast majority of Christians are just engaging in virtue signalling, because the way they live is hopelessly inconsistent with what they claim to believe. And I’m talking something in the range of 99 - 99.9%.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From da pickle@21:1/5 to William Bradley on Wed Nov 8 07:34:35 2023
    On 11/6/2023 10:46 AM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Monday, November 6, 2023 at 5:40:47 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/5/2023 8:26 PM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 6:03:44 PM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/5/2023 11:34 AM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 9:27:54 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote: >>>>>> On 11/5/2023 11:04 AM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 8:54:26 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote: >>>>>>>> On 11/5/2023 10:13 AM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 6:00:41 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 11/4/2023 6:46 PM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Saturday, November 4, 2023 at 2:04:39 PM UTC-7, William Bradley wrote:
    On Saturday, November 4, 2023 at 10:30:39 AM UTC-7, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/4/2023 1:40 AM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Friday, November 3, 2023 at 9:59:28 AM UTC-7, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/3/2023 1:49 AM, Mossingen wrote:
    "da pickle" wrote in message
    news:2_CcnbSchrHopNn4...@giganews.com...

    The new speaker is a friend of mine ... a friendly nice and honest
    politician ... had to find in the House. [Or the other place.] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    _______________


    How in the world did he swing that? I'd never heard of this guy, there
    is infighting in the GOP, names bandied about, then poof! He appears
    out of nowhere as the Speaker.
    Come over for a visit and I will invite him over for dinner. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Really nice guy.

    He is a piece of shit homophobe who argued to make 7% of Americans criminals because he didn’t agree with their sexual orientation. Not surprised you two bigots get along.
    You have fallen and cannot get up ... seek help.

    [Sorry if this fact is because of your medical condition ... it is hard
    to be as sick as you are.]
    In other words you have nothing. Like I said, you are every bit the bigoted piece of shit your asshole buddy is.

    And not only is he a world class bigot, he is also a complete fucking idiot:

    “Johnson holds young-Earth creationist beliefs.[112] He helped the Creation Museum secure millions of dollars of tax subsidies to build a life-sized Ark Encounter which teaches dinosaurs accompanied Noah during the flood.[113] In 2016,
    Johnson delivered a sermon that called the teaching of evolution one of the causes of mass shootings: "People say, 'How can a young person go into their schoolhouse and open fire on their classmates?' Because we've taught a whole generation—a couple
    generations now—of Americans, that there's no right or wrong, that it's about survival of the fittest, and you evolve from the primordial slime. Why is that life of any sacred value? Because there's nobody sacred to whom it's owed."[104][114]
    So, in Canada Christians are persecuted? Should we no longer let anyone
    who is a Christian hold public office? How about the Muslims? Just >>>>>>>>>> kill all them too? Surely you want the Jews to go too. No question >>>>>>>>>> about that. Maybe you should be dictator and then everything would be
    "perfect".

    "bigot" defines you perfectly

    One strawman after another. I said he is a bigot and an idiot. Anyone who thinks the Earth is 5000 years old and that Noah built an arc and filled it with dinosaurs is a fucking moron. Doesn’t matter if they call it “religion” or not.
    Anyone who wants to criminalize being gay is a lowlife bigot. Doesn’t matter if they call it “religion” or not. You CHOOSE to accept those beliefs or not. He has chosen to be a bigot, Nobody is forcing him to believe that crap. Like I said, it
    doesn’t surprise me in the least that you think a piece of shit like that is a great guy and that you get along swimmingly.
    YOU Blab are the "bigot" ... maybe not world class ... just classless. >>>>>>>>
    Stop those Christians and Jews and whoever else believes something you >>>>>>>> do not believe ... amazing. They are all "believers" and you are the >>>>>>>> "bigot".

    big·ot
    /ˈbiɡət/
    noun
    a person who is obstinately or unreasonably attached to a belief, >>>>>>>> opinion, or faction, especially one who is prejudiced against or >>>>>>>> antagonistic toward a person or people on the basis of their membership
    of a particular group.

    Yes, that describes the two of you perfectly. Criminalize being gay? And I’m the bigot for calling out HIS extreme bigotry as you defend his persecution of gay people and tell everyone what a great guy he is? You are a joke.

    Pickle Louisiana logic: “My Nazi friend is a great guy. Sure, he believes all Jews should be thrown in the ovens, but he has to believe that because he’s a Nazi. We can’t hold that against him. If you hate someone just because they want to
    throw all Jews in the ovens then YOU are the bigot, not him.”

    Do the world a favour and go on a cruise and never come back.
    Mike Johnson (nor I) ever criminalized anyone for being gay. He has >>>>>> never persecuted any person for being gay. Apparently YOUR Nazi friend >>>>>> has a view of history that you do not find fault with ... lots of folks >>>>>> were eugenicists before (during) the second world war. I do not think >>>>>> they were in favor of exterminating the Jews, but they did have an >>>>>> opinion about superior species. But that was then, this is now.

    You, Blab, are the bigot. You also have lost your verve ... maybe you >>>>>> really are terminally ill ... if so, we will all pray for you ... in our >>>>>> own ways.

    Another low-IQ strawman. I didn’t say he or you criminalized being gay. He obviously would if he had that power, but I said he argued for it, which is a fact.

    Any more bullshit to defend your extreme bigotry and that of your wonderful friend?
    More pf the same, Blab ... more of the same. Keep up with your Nazi
    friends ... birds of a feather.

    You are the one who told everyone what great guy the piece of shit homophobe bigot is, not me.
    You have fallen and cannot get up ... you are a sad case.

    Are you now pretending you did not tell everyone what a great guy that piece of garbage homophobic bigot is? It’s pointless to lie. Everyone read it.

    So much like Jerry you could actually be him

    Mike Johnson is a great guy ... he is a Christian of the first order.
    True Christians are really good people. Good folks who are Jews or
    Muslims or any other religion are also good people ... some folks let
    their religion get away from them and they do indeed become irreligious
    and evil ... they do not have to be religious to be evil ... you for
    example are a good example of a non-religious person who is evil.

    [Of course, not all non-religious folks are evil ... but many are.]

    Mike Johnson is a really good guy and he will be able to compromise with
    those evil irreligious folks ... some of whom are in government offices.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From da pickle@21:1/5 to William Bradley on Wed Nov 8 07:36:42 2023
    On 11/6/2023 10:46 AM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Monday, November 6, 2023 at 5:40:47 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/5/2023 8:26 PM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 6:03:44 PM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/5/2023 11:34 AM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 9:27:54 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote: >>>>>> On 11/5/2023 11:04 AM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 8:54:26 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote: >>>>>>>> On 11/5/2023 10:13 AM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 6:00:41 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 11/4/2023 6:46 PM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Saturday, November 4, 2023 at 2:04:39 PM UTC-7, William Bradley wrote:
    On Saturday, November 4, 2023 at 10:30:39 AM UTC-7, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/4/2023 1:40 AM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Friday, November 3, 2023 at 9:59:28 AM UTC-7, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/3/2023 1:49 AM, Mossingen wrote:
    "da pickle" wrote in message
    news:2_CcnbSchrHopNn4...@giganews.com...

    The new speaker is a friend of mine ... a friendly nice and honest
    politician ... had to find in the House. [Or the other place.] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    _______________


    How in the world did he swing that? I'd never heard of this guy, there
    is infighting in the GOP, names bandied about, then poof! He appears
    out of nowhere as the Speaker.
    Come over for a visit and I will invite him over for dinner. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Really nice guy.

    He is a piece of shit homophobe who argued to make 7% of Americans criminals because he didn’t agree with their sexual orientation. Not surprised you two bigots get along.
    You have fallen and cannot get up ... seek help.

    [Sorry if this fact is because of your medical condition ... it is hard
    to be as sick as you are.]
    In other words you have nothing. Like I said, you are every bit the bigoted piece of shit your asshole buddy is.

    And not only is he a world class bigot, he is also a complete fucking idiot:

    “Johnson holds young-Earth creationist beliefs.[112] He helped the Creation Museum secure millions of dollars of tax subsidies to build a life-sized Ark Encounter which teaches dinosaurs accompanied Noah during the flood.[113] In 2016,
    Johnson delivered a sermon that called the teaching of evolution one of the causes of mass shootings: "People say, 'How can a young person go into their schoolhouse and open fire on their classmates?' Because we've taught a whole generation—a couple
    generations now—of Americans, that there's no right or wrong, that it's about survival of the fittest, and you evolve from the primordial slime. Why is that life of any sacred value? Because there's nobody sacred to whom it's owed."[104][114]
    So, in Canada Christians are persecuted? Should we no longer let anyone
    who is a Christian hold public office? How about the Muslims? Just >>>>>>>>>> kill all them too? Surely you want the Jews to go too. No question >>>>>>>>>> about that. Maybe you should be dictator and then everything would be
    "perfect".

    "bigot" defines you perfectly

    One strawman after another. I said he is a bigot and an idiot. Anyone who thinks the Earth is 5000 years old and that Noah built an arc and filled it with dinosaurs is a fucking moron. Doesn’t matter if they call it “religion” or not.
    Anyone who wants to criminalize being gay is a lowlife bigot. Doesn’t matter if they call it “religion” or not. You CHOOSE to accept those beliefs or not. He has chosen to be a bigot, Nobody is forcing him to believe that crap. Like I said, it
    doesn’t surprise me in the least that you think a piece of shit like that is a great guy and that you get along swimmingly.
    YOU Blab are the "bigot" ... maybe not world class ... just classless. >>>>>>>>
    Stop those Christians and Jews and whoever else believes something you >>>>>>>> do not believe ... amazing. They are all "believers" and you are the >>>>>>>> "bigot".

    big·ot
    /ˈbiɡət/
    noun
    a person who is obstinately or unreasonably attached to a belief, >>>>>>>> opinion, or faction, especially one who is prejudiced against or >>>>>>>> antagonistic toward a person or people on the basis of their membership
    of a particular group.

    Yes, that describes the two of you perfectly. Criminalize being gay? And I’m the bigot for calling out HIS extreme bigotry as you defend his persecution of gay people and tell everyone what a great guy he is? You are a joke.

    Pickle Louisiana logic: “My Nazi friend is a great guy. Sure, he believes all Jews should be thrown in the ovens, but he has to believe that because he’s a Nazi. We can’t hold that against him. If you hate someone just because they want to
    throw all Jews in the ovens then YOU are the bigot, not him.”

    Do the world a favour and go on a cruise and never come back.
    Mike Johnson (nor I) ever criminalized anyone for being gay. He has >>>>>> never persecuted any person for being gay. Apparently YOUR Nazi friend >>>>>> has a view of history that you do not find fault with ... lots of folks >>>>>> were eugenicists before (during) the second world war. I do not think >>>>>> they were in favor of exterminating the Jews, but they did have an >>>>>> opinion about superior species. But that was then, this is now.

    You, Blab, are the bigot. You also have lost your verve ... maybe you >>>>>> really are terminally ill ... if so, we will all pray for you ... in our >>>>>> own ways.

    Another low-IQ strawman. I didn’t say he or you criminalized being gay. He obviously would if he had that power, but I said he argued for it, which is a fact.

    Any more bullshit to defend your extreme bigotry and that of your wonderful friend?
    More pf the same, Blab ... more of the same. Keep up with your Nazi
    friends ... birds of a feather.

    You are the one who told everyone what great guy the piece of shit homophobe bigot is, not me.
    You have fallen and cannot get up ... you are a sad case.

    Are you now pretending you did not tell everyone what a great guy that piece of garbage homophobic bigot is? It’s pointless to lie. Everyone read it.


    So much like Jerry you could actually be him

    Mike Johnson is a great guy ... he is a Christian of the first order.
    True Christians are really good people. Good folks who are Jews or
    Muslims or any other religion are also good people ... some folks let
    their religion get away from them and they do indeed become irreligious
    and evil ... they do not have to be religious to be evil ... you for
    example are a good example of a non-religious person who is evil.

    [Of course, not all non-religious folks are evil ... but many are.]

    Mike Johnson is a really good guy and he will be able to compromise with
    those evil irreligious folks ... some of whom are in government offices.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From da pickle@21:1/5 to William Bradley on Wed Nov 8 07:40:33 2023
    On 11/7/2023 5:27 PM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Tuesday, November 7, 2023 at 3:09:59 PM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/6/2023 10:46 AM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Monday, November 6, 2023 at 5:40:47 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/5/2023 8:26 PM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 6:03:44 PM UTC-8, da pickle wrote: >>>>>> On 11/5/2023 11:34 AM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 9:27:54 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote: >>>>>>>> On 11/5/2023 11:04 AM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 8:54:26 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 11/5/2023 10:13 AM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 6:00:41 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/4/2023 6:46 PM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Saturday, November 4, 2023 at 2:04:39 PM UTC-7, William Bradley wrote:
    On Saturday, November 4, 2023 at 10:30:39 AM UTC-7, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/4/2023 1:40 AM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Friday, November 3, 2023 at 9:59:28 AM UTC-7, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/3/2023 1:49 AM, Mossingen wrote:
    "da pickle" wrote in message
    news:2_CcnbSchrHopNn4...@giganews.com...

    The new speaker is a friend of mine ... a friendly nice and honest
    politician ... had to find in the House. [Or the other place.]


    _______________


    How in the world did he swing that? I'd never heard of this guy, there
    is infighting in the GOP, names bandied about, then poof! He appears
    out of nowhere as the Speaker.
    Come over for a visit and I will invite him over for dinner. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Really nice guy.

    He is a piece of shit homophobe who argued to make 7% of Americans criminals because he didn’t agree with their sexual orientation. Not surprised you two bigots get along.
    You have fallen and cannot get up ... seek help. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    [Sorry if this fact is because of your medical condition ... it is hard
    to be as sick as you are.]
    In other words you have nothing. Like I said, you are every bit the bigoted piece of shit your asshole buddy is.

    And not only is he a world class bigot, he is also a complete fucking idiot:

    “Johnson holds young-Earth creationist beliefs.[112] He helped the Creation Museum secure millions of dollars of tax subsidies to build a life-sized Ark Encounter which teaches dinosaurs accompanied Noah during the flood.[113] In 2016,
    Johnson delivered a sermon that called the teaching of evolution one of the causes of mass shootings: "People say, 'How can a young person go into their schoolhouse and open fire on their classmates?' Because we've taught a whole generation—a couple
    generations now—of Americans, that there's no right or wrong, that it's about survival of the fittest, and you evolve from the primordial slime. Why is that life of any sacred value? Because there's nobody sacred to whom it's owed."[104][114]
    So, in Canada Christians are persecuted? Should we no longer let anyone
    who is a Christian hold public office? How about the Muslims? Just >>>>>>>>>>>> kill all them too? Surely you want the Jews to go too. No question >>>>>>>>>>>> about that. Maybe you should be dictator and then everything would be
    "perfect".

    "bigot" defines you perfectly

    One strawman after another. I said he is a bigot and an idiot. Anyone who thinks the Earth is 5000 years old and that Noah built an arc and filled it with dinosaurs is a fucking moron. Doesn’t matter if they call it “religion” or not.
    Anyone who wants to criminalize being gay is a lowlife bigot. Doesn’t matter if they call it “religion” or not. You CHOOSE to accept those beliefs or not. He has chosen to be a bigot, Nobody is forcing him to believe that crap. Like I said, it
    doesn’t surprise me in the least that you think a piece of shit like that is a great guy and that you get along swimmingly.
    YOU Blab are the "bigot" ... maybe not world class ... just classless.

    Stop those Christians and Jews and whoever else believes something you
    do not believe ... amazing. They are all "believers" and you are the >>>>>>>>>> "bigot".

    big·ot
    /ˈbiɡət/
    noun
    a person who is obstinately or unreasonably attached to a belief, >>>>>>>>>> opinion, or faction, especially one who is prejudiced against or >>>>>>>>>> antagonistic toward a person or people on the basis of their membership
    of a particular group.

    Yes, that describes the two of you perfectly. Criminalize being gay? And I’m the bigot for calling out HIS extreme bigotry as you defend his persecution of gay people and tell everyone what a great guy he is? You are a joke.

    Pickle Louisiana logic: “My Nazi friend is a great guy. Sure, he believes all Jews should be thrown in the ovens, but he has to believe that because he’s a Nazi. We can’t hold that against him. If you hate someone just because they want
    to throw all Jews in the ovens then YOU are the bigot, not him.”

    Do the world a favour and go on a cruise and never come back. >>>>>>>> Mike Johnson (nor I) ever criminalized anyone for being gay. He has >>>>>>>> never persecuted any person for being gay. Apparently YOUR Nazi friend >>>>>>>> has a view of history that you do not find fault with ... lots of folks
    were eugenicists before (during) the second world war. I do not think >>>>>>>> they were in favor of exterminating the Jews, but they did have an >>>>>>>> opinion about superior species. But that was then, this is now. >>>>>>>>
    You, Blab, are the bigot. You also have lost your verve ... maybe you >>>>>>>> really are terminally ill ... if so, we will all pray for you ... in our
    own ways.

    Another low-IQ strawman. I didn’t say he or you criminalized being gay. He obviously would if he had that power, but I said he argued for it, which is a fact.

    Any more bullshit to defend your extreme bigotry and that of your wonderful friend?
    More pf the same, Blab ... more of the same. Keep up with your Nazi >>>>>> friends ... birds of a feather.

    You are the one who told everyone what great guy the piece of shit homophobe bigot is, not me.
    You have fallen and cannot get up ... you are a sad case.

    Are you now pretending you did not tell everyone what a great guy that piece of garbage homophobic bigot is? It’s pointless to lie. Everyone read it.
    So you hate Christians ... what else is new.

    No, I hate bigotry. We already covered hiding behind a “religion” or a “political ideology” as an excuse. Those things are choices. And no, hating bigotry does not make you a bigot. That is the reasoning of a mental case of your magnitude.

    Even though I don’t “hate” Christians (because some choose to ignore or reject the bigoted dogma), I do think Christians (and adherents to every other religion) are either morons or phonies, because what they claim to believe is absolutely
    ridiculous on its face. I believe the vast majority of Christians are just engaging in virtue signalling, because the way they live is hopelessly inconsistent with what they claim to believe. And I’m talking something in the range of 99 - 99.9%.

    You even confuse yourself with your blab.

    So you do not hate ALL Christians, just 99.9% of them. How about those
    JEWS?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From William Bradley@21:1/5 to da pickle on Wed Nov 8 06:29:58 2023
    On Wednesday, November 8, 2023 at 5:40:45 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/7/2023 5:27 PM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Tuesday, November 7, 2023 at 3:09:59 PM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/6/2023 10:46 AM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Monday, November 6, 2023 at 5:40:47 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/5/2023 8:26 PM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 6:03:44 PM UTC-8, da pickle wrote: >>>>>> On 11/5/2023 11:34 AM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 9:27:54 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote: >>>>>>>> On 11/5/2023 11:04 AM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 8:54:26 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/5/2023 10:13 AM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 6:00:41 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/4/2023 6:46 PM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Saturday, November 4, 2023 at 2:04:39 PM UTC-7, William Bradley wrote:
    On Saturday, November 4, 2023 at 10:30:39 AM UTC-7, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/4/2023 1:40 AM, William Bradley wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, November 3, 2023 at 9:59:28 AM UTC-7, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/3/2023 1:49 AM, Mossingen wrote:
    "da pickle" wrote in message
    news:2_CcnbSchrHopNn4...@giganews.com... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    The new speaker is a friend of mine ... a friendly nice and honest
    politician ... had to find in the House. [Or the other place.]


    _______________


    How in the world did he swing that? I'd never heard of this guy, there
    is infighting in the GOP, names bandied about, then poof! He appears
    out of nowhere as the Speaker.
    Come over for a visit and I will invite him over for dinner.

    Really nice guy.

    He is a piece of shit homophobe who argued to make 7% of Americans criminals because he didn’t agree with their sexual orientation. Not surprised you two bigots get along.
    You have fallen and cannot get up ... seek help. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    [Sorry if this fact is because of your medical condition ... it is hard
    to be as sick as you are.]
    In other words you have nothing. Like I said, you are every bit the bigoted piece of shit your asshole buddy is.

    And not only is he a world class bigot, he is also a complete fucking idiot:

    “Johnson holds young-Earth creationist beliefs.[112] He helped the Creation Museum secure millions of dollars of tax subsidies to build a life-sized Ark Encounter which teaches dinosaurs accompanied Noah during the flood.[113] In 2016,
    Johnson delivered a sermon that called the teaching of evolution one of the causes of mass shootings: "People say, 'How can a young person go into their schoolhouse and open fire on their classmates?' Because we've taught a whole generation—a couple
    generations now—of Americans, that there's no right or wrong, that it's about survival of the fittest, and you evolve from the primordial slime. Why is that life of any sacred value? Because there's nobody sacred to whom it's owed."[104][114]
    So, in Canada Christians are persecuted? Should we no longer let anyone
    who is a Christian hold public office? How about the Muslims? Just
    kill all them too? Surely you want the Jews to go too. No question
    about that. Maybe you should be dictator and then everything would be
    "perfect".

    "bigot" defines you perfectly

    One strawman after another. I said he is a bigot and an idiot. Anyone who thinks the Earth is 5000 years old and that Noah built an arc and filled it with dinosaurs is a fucking moron. Doesn’t matter if they call it “religion” or not.
    Anyone who wants to criminalize being gay is a lowlife bigot. Doesn’t matter if they call it “religion” or not. You CHOOSE to accept those beliefs or not. He has chosen to be a bigot, Nobody is forcing him to believe that crap. Like I said, it
    doesn’t surprise me in the least that you think a piece of shit like that is a great guy and that you get along swimmingly.
    YOU Blab are the "bigot" ... maybe not world class ... just classless.

    Stop those Christians and Jews and whoever else believes something you
    do not believe ... amazing. They are all "believers" and you are the
    "bigot".

    big·ot
    /ˈbiɡət/
    noun
    a person who is obstinately or unreasonably attached to a belief, >>>>>>>>>> opinion, or faction, especially one who is prejudiced against or >>>>>>>>>> antagonistic toward a person or people on the basis of their membership
    of a particular group.

    Yes, that describes the two of you perfectly. Criminalize being gay? And I’m the bigot for calling out HIS extreme bigotry as you defend his persecution of gay people and tell everyone what a great guy he is? You are a joke.

    Pickle Louisiana logic: “My Nazi friend is a great guy. Sure, he believes all Jews should be thrown in the ovens, but he has to believe that because he’s a Nazi. We can’t hold that against him. If you hate someone just because they want
    to throw all Jews in the ovens then YOU are the bigot, not him.”

    Do the world a favour and go on a cruise and never come back. >>>>>>>> Mike Johnson (nor I) ever criminalized anyone for being gay. He has >>>>>>>> never persecuted any person for being gay. Apparently YOUR Nazi friend
    has a view of history that you do not find fault with ... lots of folks
    were eugenicists before (during) the second world war. I do not think
    they were in favor of exterminating the Jews, but they did have an >>>>>>>> opinion about superior species. But that was then, this is now. >>>>>>>>
    You, Blab, are the bigot. You also have lost your verve ... maybe you
    really are terminally ill ... if so, we will all pray for you ... in our
    own ways.

    Another low-IQ strawman. I didn’t say he or you criminalized being gay. He obviously would if he had that power, but I said he argued for it, which is a fact.

    Any more bullshit to defend your extreme bigotry and that of your wonderful friend?
    More pf the same, Blab ... more of the same. Keep up with your Nazi >>>>>> friends ... birds of a feather.

    You are the one who told everyone what great guy the piece of shit homophobe bigot is, not me.
    You have fallen and cannot get up ... you are a sad case.

    Are you now pretending you did not tell everyone what a great guy that piece of garbage homophobic bigot is? It’s pointless to lie. Everyone read it.
    So you hate Christians ... what else is new.

    No, I hate bigotry. We already covered hiding behind a “religion” or a “political ideology” as an excuse. Those things are choices. And no, hating bigotry does not make you a bigot. That is the reasoning of a mental case of your magnitude.

    Even though I don’t “hate” Christians (because some choose to ignore or reject the bigoted dogma), I do think Christians (and adherents to every other religion) are either morons or phonies, because what they claim to believe is absolutely
    ridiculous on its face. I believe the vast majority of Christians are just engaging in virtue signalling, because the way they live is hopelessly inconsistent with what they claim to believe. And I’m talking something in the range of 99 - 99.9%.
    You even confuse yourself with your blab.

    So you do not hate ALL Christians, just 99.9% of them. How about those
    JEWS?

    You can’t read. Your mind must be completely shot.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From William Bradley@21:1/5 to da pickle on Wed Nov 8 06:36:15 2023
    On Wednesday, November 8, 2023 at 5:34:46 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/6/2023 10:46 AM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Monday, November 6, 2023 at 5:40:47 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/5/2023 8:26 PM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 6:03:44 PM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/5/2023 11:34 AM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 9:27:54 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote: >>>>>> On 11/5/2023 11:04 AM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 8:54:26 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote: >>>>>>>> On 11/5/2023 10:13 AM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 6:00:41 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/4/2023 6:46 PM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Saturday, November 4, 2023 at 2:04:39 PM UTC-7, William Bradley wrote:
    On Saturday, November 4, 2023 at 10:30:39 AM UTC-7, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/4/2023 1:40 AM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Friday, November 3, 2023 at 9:59:28 AM UTC-7, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/3/2023 1:49 AM, Mossingen wrote:
    "da pickle" wrote in message
    news:2_CcnbSchrHopNn4...@giganews.com...

    The new speaker is a friend of mine ... a friendly nice and honest
    politician ... had to find in the House. [Or the other place.]


    _______________


    How in the world did he swing that? I'd never heard of this guy, there
    is infighting in the GOP, names bandied about, then poof! He appears
    out of nowhere as the Speaker.
    Come over for a visit and I will invite him over for dinner. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Really nice guy.

    He is a piece of shit homophobe who argued to make 7% of Americans criminals because he didn’t agree with their sexual orientation. Not surprised you two bigots get along.
    You have fallen and cannot get up ... seek help.

    [Sorry if this fact is because of your medical condition ... it is hard
    to be as sick as you are.]
    In other words you have nothing. Like I said, you are every bit the bigoted piece of shit your asshole buddy is.

    And not only is he a world class bigot, he is also a complete fucking idiot:

    “Johnson holds young-Earth creationist beliefs.[112] He helped the Creation Museum secure millions of dollars of tax subsidies to build a life-sized Ark Encounter which teaches dinosaurs accompanied Noah during the flood.[113] In 2016,
    Johnson delivered a sermon that called the teaching of evolution one of the causes of mass shootings: "People say, 'How can a young person go into their schoolhouse and open fire on their classmates?' Because we've taught a whole generation—a couple
    generations now—of Americans, that there's no right or wrong, that it's about survival of the fittest, and you evolve from the primordial slime. Why is that life of any sacred value? Because there's nobody sacred to whom it's owed."[104][114]
    So, in Canada Christians are persecuted? Should we no longer let anyone
    who is a Christian hold public office? How about the Muslims? Just
    kill all them too? Surely you want the Jews to go too. No question
    about that. Maybe you should be dictator and then everything would be
    "perfect".

    "bigot" defines you perfectly

    One strawman after another. I said he is a bigot and an idiot. Anyone who thinks the Earth is 5000 years old and that Noah built an arc and filled it with dinosaurs is a fucking moron. Doesn’t matter if they call it “religion” or not.
    Anyone who wants to criminalize being gay is a lowlife bigot. Doesn’t matter if they call it “religion” or not. You CHOOSE to accept those beliefs or not. He has chosen to be a bigot, Nobody is forcing him to believe that crap. Like I said, it
    doesn’t surprise me in the least that you think a piece of shit like that is a great guy and that you get along swimmingly.
    YOU Blab are the "bigot" ... maybe not world class ... just classless.

    Stop those Christians and Jews and whoever else believes something you
    do not believe ... amazing. They are all "believers" and you are the
    "bigot".

    big·ot
    /ˈbiɡət/
    noun
    a person who is obstinately or unreasonably attached to a belief, >>>>>>>> opinion, or faction, especially one who is prejudiced against or >>>>>>>> antagonistic toward a person or people on the basis of their membership
    of a particular group.

    Yes, that describes the two of you perfectly. Criminalize being gay? And I’m the bigot for calling out HIS extreme bigotry as you defend his persecution of gay people and tell everyone what a great guy he is? You are a joke.

    Pickle Louisiana logic: “My Nazi friend is a great guy. Sure, he believes all Jews should be thrown in the ovens, but he has to believe that because he’s a Nazi. We can’t hold that against him. If you hate someone just because they want
    to throw all Jews in the ovens then YOU are the bigot, not him.”

    Do the world a favour and go on a cruise and never come back.
    Mike Johnson (nor I) ever criminalized anyone for being gay. He has >>>>>> never persecuted any person for being gay. Apparently YOUR Nazi friend
    has a view of history that you do not find fault with ... lots of folks
    were eugenicists before (during) the second world war. I do not think >>>>>> they were in favor of exterminating the Jews, but they did have an >>>>>> opinion about superior species. But that was then, this is now. >>>>>>
    You, Blab, are the bigot. You also have lost your verve ... maybe you >>>>>> really are terminally ill ... if so, we will all pray for you ... in our
    own ways.

    Another low-IQ strawman. I didn’t say he or you criminalized being gay. He obviously would if he had that power, but I said he argued for it, which is a fact.

    Any more bullshit to defend your extreme bigotry and that of your wonderful friend?
    More pf the same, Blab ... more of the same. Keep up with your Nazi >>>> friends ... birds of a feather.

    You are the one who told everyone what great guy the piece of shit homophobe bigot is, not me.
    You have fallen and cannot get up ... you are a sad case.

    Are you now pretending you did not tell everyone what a great guy that piece of garbage homophobic bigot is? It’s pointless to lie. Everyone read it.
    So much like Jerry you could actually be him

    Mike Johnson is a great guy ... he is a Christian of the first order.
    True Christians are really good people. Good folks who are Jews or
    Muslims or any other religion are also good people ... some folks let
    their religion get away from them and they do indeed become irreligious
    and evil ... they do not have to be religious to be evil ... you for
    example are a good example of a non-religious person who is evil.

    [Of course, not all non-religious folks are evil ... but many are.]

    Mike Johnson is a really good guy and he will be able to compromise with those evil irreligious folks ... some of whom are in government office

    We already went over this. You think the guy who has who has argued to criminalize gay people and espoused every other outrageous homophobic slur under the sun is a “great guy.” We get it. You said it; you are stuck with it. It’s just who you are.
    I, on the other hand, think extreme bigots like that are hateful garbage people. That includes you,

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  • From da pickle@21:1/5 to William Bradley on Wed Nov 8 08:58:58 2023
    On 11/8/2023 8:36 AM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Wednesday, November 8, 2023 at 5:34:46 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/6/2023 10:46 AM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Monday, November 6, 2023 at 5:40:47 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/5/2023 8:26 PM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 6:03:44 PM UTC-8, da pickle wrote: >>>>>> On 11/5/2023 11:34 AM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 9:27:54 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote: >>>>>>>> On 11/5/2023 11:04 AM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 8:54:26 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 11/5/2023 10:13 AM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 6:00:41 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/4/2023 6:46 PM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Saturday, November 4, 2023 at 2:04:39 PM UTC-7, William Bradley wrote:
    On Saturday, November 4, 2023 at 10:30:39 AM UTC-7, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/4/2023 1:40 AM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Friday, November 3, 2023 at 9:59:28 AM UTC-7, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/3/2023 1:49 AM, Mossingen wrote:
    "da pickle" wrote in message
    news:2_CcnbSchrHopNn4...@giganews.com...

    The new speaker is a friend of mine ... a friendly nice and honest
    politician ... had to find in the House. [Or the other place.]


    _______________


    How in the world did he swing that? I'd never heard of this guy, there
    is infighting in the GOP, names bandied about, then poof! He appears
    out of nowhere as the Speaker.
    Come over for a visit and I will invite him over for dinner. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Really nice guy.

    He is a piece of shit homophobe who argued to make 7% of Americans criminals because he didn’t agree with their sexual orientation. Not surprised you two bigots get along.
    You have fallen and cannot get up ... seek help. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    [Sorry if this fact is because of your medical condition ... it is hard
    to be as sick as you are.]
    In other words you have nothing. Like I said, you are every bit the bigoted piece of shit your asshole buddy is.

    And not only is he a world class bigot, he is also a complete fucking idiot:

    “Johnson holds young-Earth creationist beliefs.[112] He helped the Creation Museum secure millions of dollars of tax subsidies to build a life-sized Ark Encounter which teaches dinosaurs accompanied Noah during the flood.[113] In 2016,
    Johnson delivered a sermon that called the teaching of evolution one of the causes of mass shootings: "People say, 'How can a young person go into their schoolhouse and open fire on their classmates?' Because we've taught a whole generation—a couple
    generations now—of Americans, that there's no right or wrong, that it's about survival of the fittest, and you evolve from the primordial slime. Why is that life of any sacred value? Because there's nobody sacred to whom it's owed."[104][114]
    So, in Canada Christians are persecuted? Should we no longer let anyone
    who is a Christian hold public office? How about the Muslims? Just >>>>>>>>>>>> kill all them too? Surely you want the Jews to go too. No question >>>>>>>>>>>> about that. Maybe you should be dictator and then everything would be
    "perfect".

    "bigot" defines you perfectly

    One strawman after another. I said he is a bigot and an idiot. Anyone who thinks the Earth is 5000 years old and that Noah built an arc and filled it with dinosaurs is a fucking moron. Doesn’t matter if they call it “religion” or not.
    Anyone who wants to criminalize being gay is a lowlife bigot. Doesn’t matter if they call it “religion” or not. You CHOOSE to accept those beliefs or not. He has chosen to be a bigot, Nobody is forcing him to believe that crap. Like I said, it
    doesn’t surprise me in the least that you think a piece of shit like that is a great guy and that you get along swimmingly.
    YOU Blab are the "bigot" ... maybe not world class ... just classless.

    Stop those Christians and Jews and whoever else believes something you
    do not believe ... amazing. They are all "believers" and you are the >>>>>>>>>> "bigot".

    big·ot
    /ˈbiɡət/
    noun
    a person who is obstinately or unreasonably attached to a belief, >>>>>>>>>> opinion, or faction, especially one who is prejudiced against or >>>>>>>>>> antagonistic toward a person or people on the basis of their membership
    of a particular group.

    Yes, that describes the two of you perfectly. Criminalize being gay? And I’m the bigot for calling out HIS extreme bigotry as you defend his persecution of gay people and tell everyone what a great guy he is? You are a joke.

    Pickle Louisiana logic: “My Nazi friend is a great guy. Sure, he believes all Jews should be thrown in the ovens, but he has to believe that because he’s a Nazi. We can’t hold that against him. If you hate someone just because they want
    to throw all Jews in the ovens then YOU are the bigot, not him.”

    Do the world a favour and go on a cruise and never come back. >>>>>>>> Mike Johnson (nor I) ever criminalized anyone for being gay. He has >>>>>>>> never persecuted any person for being gay. Apparently YOUR Nazi friend >>>>>>>> has a view of history that you do not find fault with ... lots of folks
    were eugenicists before (during) the second world war. I do not think >>>>>>>> they were in favor of exterminating the Jews, but they did have an >>>>>>>> opinion about superior species. But that was then, this is now. >>>>>>>>
    You, Blab, are the bigot. You also have lost your verve ... maybe you >>>>>>>> really are terminally ill ... if so, we will all pray for you ... in our
    own ways.

    Another low-IQ strawman. I didn’t say he or you criminalized being gay. He obviously would if he had that power, but I said he argued for it, which is a fact.

    Any more bullshit to defend your extreme bigotry and that of your wonderful friend?
    More pf the same, Blab ... more of the same. Keep up with your Nazi >>>>>> friends ... birds of a feather.

    You are the one who told everyone what great guy the piece of shit homophobe bigot is, not me.
    You have fallen and cannot get up ... you are a sad case.

    Are you now pretending you did not tell everyone what a great guy that piece of garbage homophobic bigot is? It’s pointless to lie. Everyone read it.
    So much like Jerry you could actually be him

    Mike Johnson is a great guy ... he is a Christian of the first order.
    True Christians are really good people. Good folks who are Jews or
    Muslims or any other religion are also good people ... some folks let
    their religion get away from them and they do indeed become irreligious
    and evil ... they do not have to be religious to be evil ... you for
    example are a good example of a non-religious person who is evil.

    [Of course, not all non-religious folks are evil ... but many are.]

    Mike Johnson is a really good guy and he will be able to compromise with
    those evil irreligious folks ... some of whom are in government office

    We already went over this. You think the guy who has who has argued to criminalize gay people and espoused every other outrageous homophobic slur under the sun is a “great guy.” We get it. You said it; you are stuck with it. It’s just who you are.
    I, on the other hand, think extreme bigots like that are hateful garbage people. That includes you,

    You make stuff up just like Jerry ... two peas in a blob.

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  • From da pickle@21:1/5 to William Bradley on Wed Nov 8 08:59:32 2023
    On 11/8/2023 8:29 AM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Wednesday, November 8, 2023 at 5:40:45 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/7/2023 5:27 PM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Tuesday, November 7, 2023 at 3:09:59 PM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/6/2023 10:46 AM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Monday, November 6, 2023 at 5:40:47 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote: >>>>>> On 11/5/2023 8:26 PM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 6:03:44 PM UTC-8, da pickle wrote: >>>>>>>> On 11/5/2023 11:34 AM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 9:27:54 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 11/5/2023 11:04 AM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 8:54:26 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/5/2023 10:13 AM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 6:00:41 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/4/2023 6:46 PM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Saturday, November 4, 2023 at 2:04:39 PM UTC-7, William Bradley wrote:
    On Saturday, November 4, 2023 at 10:30:39 AM UTC-7, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/4/2023 1:40 AM, William Bradley wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, November 3, 2023 at 9:59:28 AM UTC-7, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/3/2023 1:49 AM, Mossingen wrote:
    "da pickle" wrote in message
    news:2_CcnbSchrHopNn4...@giganews.com... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    The new speaker is a friend of mine ... a friendly nice and honest
    politician ... had to find in the House. [Or the other place.]


    _______________


    How in the world did he swing that? I'd never heard of this guy, there
    is infighting in the GOP, names bandied about, then poof! He appears
    out of nowhere as the Speaker.
    Come over for a visit and I will invite him over for dinner.

    Really nice guy.

    He is a piece of shit homophobe who argued to make 7% of Americans criminals because he didn’t agree with their sexual orientation. Not surprised you two bigots get along.
    You have fallen and cannot get up ... seek help. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    [Sorry if this fact is because of your medical condition ... it is hard
    to be as sick as you are.]
    In other words you have nothing. Like I said, you are every bit the bigoted piece of shit your asshole buddy is.

    And not only is he a world class bigot, he is also a complete fucking idiot:

    “Johnson holds young-Earth creationist beliefs.[112] He helped the Creation Museum secure millions of dollars of tax subsidies to build a life-sized Ark Encounter which teaches dinosaurs accompanied Noah during the flood.[113] In 2016,
    Johnson delivered a sermon that called the teaching of evolution one of the causes of mass shootings: "People say, 'How can a young person go into their schoolhouse and open fire on their classmates?' Because we've taught a whole generation—a couple
    generations now—of Americans, that there's no right or wrong, that it's about survival of the fittest, and you evolve from the primordial slime. Why is that life of any sacred value? Because there's nobody sacred to whom it's owed."[104][114]
    So, in Canada Christians are persecuted? Should we no longer let anyone
    who is a Christian hold public office? How about the Muslims? Just
    kill all them too? Surely you want the Jews to go too. No question
    about that. Maybe you should be dictator and then everything would be
    "perfect".

    "bigot" defines you perfectly

    One strawman after another. I said he is a bigot and an idiot. Anyone who thinks the Earth is 5000 years old and that Noah built an arc and filled it with dinosaurs is a fucking moron. Doesn’t matter if they call it “religion” or not.
    Anyone who wants to criminalize being gay is a lowlife bigot. Doesn’t matter if they call it “religion” or not. You CHOOSE to accept those beliefs or not. He has chosen to be a bigot, Nobody is forcing him to believe that crap. Like I said, it
    doesn’t surprise me in the least that you think a piece of shit like that is a great guy and that you get along swimmingly.
    YOU Blab are the "bigot" ... maybe not world class ... just classless.

    Stop those Christians and Jews and whoever else believes something you
    do not believe ... amazing. They are all "believers" and you are the
    "bigot".

    big·ot
    /ˈbiɡət/
    noun
    a person who is obstinately or unreasonably attached to a belief, >>>>>>>>>>>> opinion, or faction, especially one who is prejudiced against or >>>>>>>>>>>> antagonistic toward a person or people on the basis of their membership
    of a particular group.

    Yes, that describes the two of you perfectly. Criminalize being gay? And I’m the bigot for calling out HIS extreme bigotry as you defend his persecution of gay people and tell everyone what a great guy he is? You are a joke.

    Pickle Louisiana logic: “My Nazi friend is a great guy. Sure, he believes all Jews should be thrown in the ovens, but he has to believe that because he’s a Nazi. We can’t hold that against him. If you hate someone just because they want
    to throw all Jews in the ovens then YOU are the bigot, not him.”

    Do the world a favour and go on a cruise and never come back. >>>>>>>>>> Mike Johnson (nor I) ever criminalized anyone for being gay. He has >>>>>>>>>> never persecuted any person for being gay. Apparently YOUR Nazi friend
    has a view of history that you do not find fault with ... lots of folks
    were eugenicists before (during) the second world war. I do not think
    they were in favor of exterminating the Jews, but they did have an >>>>>>>>>> opinion about superior species. But that was then, this is now. >>>>>>>>>>
    You, Blab, are the bigot. You also have lost your verve ... maybe you
    really are terminally ill ... if so, we will all pray for you ... in our
    own ways.

    Another low-IQ strawman. I didn’t say he or you criminalized being gay. He obviously would if he had that power, but I said he argued for it, which is a fact.

    Any more bullshit to defend your extreme bigotry and that of your wonderful friend?
    More pf the same, Blab ... more of the same. Keep up with your Nazi >>>>>>>> friends ... birds of a feather.

    You are the one who told everyone what great guy the piece of shit homophobe bigot is, not me.
    You have fallen and cannot get up ... you are a sad case.

    Are you now pretending you did not tell everyone what a great guy that piece of garbage homophobic bigot is? It’s pointless to lie. Everyone read it.
    So you hate Christians ... what else is new.

    No, I hate bigotry. We already covered hiding behind a “religion” or a “political ideology” as an excuse. Those things are choices. And no, hating bigotry does not make you a bigot. That is the reasoning of a mental case of your magnitude.

    Even though I don’t “hate” Christians (because some choose to ignore or reject the bigoted dogma), I do think Christians (and adherents to every other religion) are either morons or phonies, because what they claim to believe is absolutely
    ridiculous on its face. I believe the vast majority of Christians are just engaging in virtue signalling, because the way they live is hopelessly inconsistent with what they claim to believe. And I’m talking something in the range of 99 - 99.9%.
    You even confuse yourself with your blab.

    So you do not hate ALL Christians, just 99.9% of them. How about those
    JEWS?

    You can’t read. Your mind must be completely shot.

    You cannot read what you post ... more blab.

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to da pickle on Wed Nov 8 07:48:48 2023
    On Wednesday, November 8, 2023 at 5:34:46 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/6/2023 10:46 AM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Monday, November 6, 2023 at 5:40:47 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/5/2023 8:26 PM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 6:03:44 PM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/5/2023 11:34 AM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 9:27:54 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote: >>>>>> On 11/5/2023 11:04 AM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 8:54:26 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote: >>>>>>>> On 11/5/2023 10:13 AM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 6:00:41 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/4/2023 6:46 PM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Saturday, November 4, 2023 at 2:04:39 PM UTC-7, William Bradley wrote:
    On Saturday, November 4, 2023 at 10:30:39 AM UTC-7, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/4/2023 1:40 AM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Friday, November 3, 2023 at 9:59:28 AM UTC-7, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/3/2023 1:49 AM, Mossingen wrote:
    "da pickle" wrote in message
    news:2_CcnbSchrHopNn4...@giganews.com...

    The new speaker is a friend of mine ... a friendly nice and honest
    politician ... had to find in the House. [Or the other place.]


    _______________


    How in the world did he swing that? I'd never heard of this guy, there
    is infighting in the GOP, names bandied about, then poof! He appears
    out of nowhere as the Speaker.
    Come over for a visit and I will invite him over for dinner. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Really nice guy.

    He is a piece of shit homophobe who argued to make 7% of Americans criminals because he didn’t agree with their sexual orientation. Not surprised you two bigots get along.
    You have fallen and cannot get up ... seek help.

    [Sorry if this fact is because of your medical condition ... it is hard
    to be as sick as you are.]
    In other words you have nothing. Like I said, you are every bit the bigoted piece of shit your asshole buddy is.

    And not only is he a world class bigot, he is also a complete fucking idiot:

    “Johnson holds young-Earth creationist beliefs.[112] He helped the Creation Museum secure millions of dollars of tax subsidies to build a life-sized Ark Encounter which teaches dinosaurs accompanied Noah during the flood.[113] In 2016,
    Johnson delivered a sermon that called the teaching of evolution one of the causes of mass shootings: "People say, 'How can a young person go into their schoolhouse and open fire on their classmates?' Because we've taught a whole generation—a couple
    generations now—of Americans, that there's no right or wrong, that it's about survival of the fittest, and you evolve from the primordial slime. Why is that life of any sacred value? Because there's nobody sacred to whom it's owed."[104][114]
    So, in Canada Christians are persecuted? Should we no longer let anyone
    who is a Christian hold public office? How about the Muslims? Just
    kill all them too? Surely you want the Jews to go too. No question
    about that. Maybe you should be dictator and then everything would be
    "perfect".

    "bigot" defines you perfectly

    One strawman after another. I said he is a bigot and an idiot. Anyone who thinks the Earth is 5000 years old and that Noah built an arc and filled it with dinosaurs is a fucking moron. Doesn’t matter if they call it “religion” or not.
    Anyone who wants to criminalize being gay is a lowlife bigot. Doesn’t matter if they call it “religion” or not. You CHOOSE to accept those beliefs or not. He has chosen to be a bigot, Nobody is forcing him to believe that crap. Like I said, it
    doesn’t surprise me in the least that you think a piece of shit like that is a great guy and that you get along swimmingly.
    YOU Blab are the "bigot" ... maybe not world class ... just classless.

    Stop those Christians and Jews and whoever else believes something you
    do not believe ... amazing. They are all "believers" and you are the
    "bigot".

    big·ot
    /ˈbiɡət/
    noun
    a person who is obstinately or unreasonably attached to a belief, >>>>>>>> opinion, or faction, especially one who is prejudiced against or >>>>>>>> antagonistic toward a person or people on the basis of their membership
    of a particular group.

    Yes, that describes the two of you perfectly. Criminalize being gay? And I’m the bigot for calling out HIS extreme bigotry as you defend his persecution of gay people and tell everyone what a great guy he is? You are a joke.

    Pickle Louisiana logic: “My Nazi friend is a great guy. Sure, he believes all Jews should be thrown in the ovens, but he has to believe that because he’s a Nazi. We can’t hold that against him. If you hate someone just because they want
    to throw all Jews in the ovens then YOU are the bigot, not him.”

    Do the world a favour and go on a cruise and never come back.
    Mike Johnson (nor I) ever criminalized anyone for being gay. He has >>>>>> never persecuted any person for being gay. Apparently YOUR Nazi friend
    has a view of history that you do not find fault with ... lots of folks
    were eugenicists before (during) the second world war. I do not think >>>>>> they were in favor of exterminating the Jews, but they did have an >>>>>> opinion about superior species. But that was then, this is now. >>>>>>
    You, Blab, are the bigot. You also have lost your verve ... maybe you >>>>>> really are terminally ill ... if so, we will all pray for you ... in our
    own ways.

    Another low-IQ strawman. I didn’t say he or you criminalized being gay. He obviously would if he had that power, but I said he argued for it, which is a fact.

    Any more bullshit to defend your extreme bigotry and that of your wonderful friend?
    More pf the same, Blab ... more of the same. Keep up with your Nazi >>>> friends ... birds of a feather.

    You are the one who told everyone what great guy the piece of shit homophobe bigot is, not me.
    You have fallen and cannot get up ... you are a sad case.
    .

    Are you now pretending you did not tell everyone what a great guy that piece of garbage homophobic bigot is? It’s pointless to lie.
    Everyone read it.
    .

    So much like Jerry you could actually be him ...
    .

    See? *** KNEW YOU COULDN'T ANSWER ***
    .
    .
    .
    .
    .

    (More Dodging & Whining deleted).

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to William Bradley on Wed Nov 8 07:50:37 2023
    On Wednesday, November 8, 2023 at 6:30:03 AM UTC-8, William Bradley wrote:
    On Wednesday, November 8, 2023 at 5:40:45 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/7/2023 5:27 PM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Tuesday, November 7, 2023 at 3:09:59 PM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/6/2023 10:46 AM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Monday, November 6, 2023 at 5:40:47 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote: >>>> On 11/5/2023 8:26 PM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 6:03:44 PM UTC-8, da pickle wrote: >>>>>> On 11/5/2023 11:34 AM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 9:27:54 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/5/2023 11:04 AM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 8:54:26 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/5/2023 10:13 AM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 6:00:41 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/4/2023 6:46 PM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Saturday, November 4, 2023 at 2:04:39 PM UTC-7, William Bradley wrote:
    On Saturday, November 4, 2023 at 10:30:39 AM UTC-7, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/4/2023 1:40 AM, William Bradley wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, November 3, 2023 at 9:59:28 AM UTC-7, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/3/2023 1:49 AM, Mossingen wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "da pickle" wrote in message
    news:2_CcnbSchrHopNn4...@giganews.com... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    The new speaker is a friend of mine ... a friendly nice and honest
    politician ... had to find in the House. [Or the other place.]


    _______________


    How in the world did he swing that? I'd never heard of this guy, there
    is infighting in the GOP, names bandied about, then poof! He appears
    out of nowhere as the Speaker.
    Come over for a visit and I will invite him over for dinner.

    Really nice guy.

    He is a piece of shit homophobe who argued to make 7% of Americans criminals because he didn’t agree with their sexual orientation. Not surprised you two bigots get along.
    You have fallen and cannot get up ... seek help. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    [Sorry if this fact is because of your medical condition ... it is hard
    to be as sick as you are.]
    In other words you have nothing. Like I said, you are every bit the bigoted piece of shit your asshole buddy is.

    And not only is he a world class bigot, he is also a complete fucking idiot:

    “Johnson holds young-Earth creationist beliefs.[112] He helped the Creation Museum secure millions of dollars of tax subsidies to build a life-sized Ark Encounter which teaches dinosaurs accompanied Noah during the flood.[113] In 2016,
    Johnson delivered a sermon that called the teaching of evolution one of the causes of mass shootings: "People say, 'How can a young person go into their schoolhouse and open fire on their classmates?' Because we've taught a whole generation—a couple
    generations now—of Americans, that there's no right or wrong, that it's about survival of the fittest, and you evolve from the primordial slime. Why is that life of any sacred value? Because there's nobody sacred to whom it's owed."[104][114]
    So, in Canada Christians are persecuted? Should we no longer let anyone
    who is a Christian hold public office? How about the Muslims? Just
    kill all them too? Surely you want the Jews to go too. No question
    about that. Maybe you should be dictator and then everything would be
    "perfect".

    "bigot" defines you perfectly

    One strawman after another. I said he is a bigot and an idiot. Anyone who thinks the Earth is 5000 years old and that Noah built an arc and filled it with dinosaurs is a fucking moron. Doesn’t matter if they call it “religion” or
    not. Anyone who wants to criminalize being gay is a lowlife bigot. Doesn’t matter if they call it “religion” or not. You CHOOSE to accept those beliefs or not. He has chosen to be a bigot, Nobody is forcing him to believe that crap. Like I said, it
    doesn’t surprise me in the least that you think a piece of shit like that is a great guy and that you get along swimmingly.
    YOU Blab are the "bigot" ... maybe not world class ... just classless.

    Stop those Christians and Jews and whoever else believes something you
    do not believe ... amazing. They are all "believers" and you are the
    "bigot".

    big·ot
    /ˈbiɡət/
    noun
    a person who is obstinately or unreasonably attached to a belief,
    opinion, or faction, especially one who is prejudiced against or
    antagonistic toward a person or people on the basis of their membership
    of a particular group.

    Yes, that describes the two of you perfectly. Criminalize being gay? And I’m the bigot for calling out HIS extreme bigotry as you defend his persecution of gay people and tell everyone what a great guy he is? You are a joke.

    Pickle Louisiana logic: “My Nazi friend is a great guy. Sure, he believes all Jews should be thrown in the ovens, but he has to believe that because he’s a Nazi. We can’t hold that against him. If you hate someone just because they
    want to throw all Jews in the ovens then YOU are the bigot, not him.”

    Do the world a favour and go on a cruise and never come back. >>>>>>>> Mike Johnson (nor I) ever criminalized anyone for being gay. He has
    never persecuted any person for being gay. Apparently YOUR Nazi friend
    has a view of history that you do not find fault with ... lots of folks
    were eugenicists before (during) the second world war. I do not think
    they were in favor of exterminating the Jews, but they did have an
    opinion about superior species. But that was then, this is now. >>>>>>>>
    You, Blab, are the bigot. You also have lost your verve ... maybe you
    really are terminally ill ... if so, we will all pray for you ... in our
    own ways.

    Another low-IQ strawman. I didn’t say he or you criminalized being gay. He obviously would if he had that power, but I said he argued for it, which is a fact.

    Any more bullshit to defend your extreme bigotry and that of your wonderful friend?
    More pf the same, Blab ... more of the same. Keep up with your Nazi >>>>>> friends ... birds of a feather.

    You are the one who told everyone what great guy the piece of shit homophobe bigot is, not me.
    You have fallen and cannot get up ... you are a sad case.

    Are you now pretending you did not tell everyone what a great guy that piece of garbage homophobic bigot is? It’s pointless to lie. Everyone read it.
    So you hate Christians ... what else is new.

    No, I hate bigotry. We already covered hiding behind a “religion” or a “political ideology” as an excuse. Those things are choices. And no, hating bigotry does not make you a bigot. That is the reasoning of a mental case of your magnitude.

    Even though I don’t “hate” Christians (because some choose to ignore or reject the bigoted dogma), I do think Christians (and adherents to every other religion) are either morons or phonies, because what they claim to believe is absolutely
    ridiculous on its face. I believe the vast majority of Christians are just engaging in virtue signalling, because the way they live is hopelessly inconsistent with what they claim to believe. And I’m talking something in the range of 99 - 99.9%.
    You even confuse yourself with your blab.

    So you do not hate ALL Christians, just 99.9% of them. How about those JEWS?
    .

    You can’t read.
    .

    Heh. He can't writer or answer, either...

    LOL

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  • From William Bradley@21:1/5 to da pickle on Wed Nov 8 10:36:18 2023
    On Wednesday, November 8, 2023 at 6:59:44 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/8/2023 8:29 AM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Wednesday, November 8, 2023 at 5:40:45 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/7/2023 5:27 PM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Tuesday, November 7, 2023 at 3:09:59 PM UTC-8, da pickle wrote: >>>> On 11/6/2023 10:46 AM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Monday, November 6, 2023 at 5:40:47 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote: >>>>>> On 11/5/2023 8:26 PM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 6:03:44 PM UTC-8, da pickle wrote: >>>>>>>> On 11/5/2023 11:34 AM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 9:27:54 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/5/2023 11:04 AM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 8:54:26 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/5/2023 10:13 AM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 6:00:41 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/4/2023 6:46 PM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Saturday, November 4, 2023 at 2:04:39 PM UTC-7, William Bradley wrote:
    On Saturday, November 4, 2023 at 10:30:39 AM UTC-7, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/4/2023 1:40 AM, William Bradley wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, November 3, 2023 at 9:59:28 AM UTC-7, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/3/2023 1:49 AM, Mossingen wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "da pickle" wrote in message
    news:2_CcnbSchrHopNn4...@giganews.com... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    The new speaker is a friend of mine ... a friendly nice and honest
    politician ... had to find in the House. [Or the other place.]


    _______________


    How in the world did he swing that? I'd never heard of this guy, there
    is infighting in the GOP, names bandied about, then poof! He appears
    out of nowhere as the Speaker.
    Come over for a visit and I will invite him over for dinner.

    Really nice guy.

    He is a piece of shit homophobe who argued to make 7% of Americans criminals because he didn’t agree with their sexual orientation. Not surprised you two bigots get along.
    You have fallen and cannot get up ... seek help. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    [Sorry if this fact is because of your medical condition ... it is hard
    to be as sick as you are.]
    In other words you have nothing. Like I said, you are every bit the bigoted piece of shit your asshole buddy is.

    And not only is he a world class bigot, he is also a complete fucking idiot:

    “Johnson holds young-Earth creationist beliefs.[112] He helped the Creation Museum secure millions of dollars of tax subsidies to build a life-sized Ark Encounter which teaches dinosaurs accompanied Noah during the flood.[113] In 2016,
    Johnson delivered a sermon that called the teaching of evolution one of the causes of mass shootings: "People say, 'How can a young person go into their schoolhouse and open fire on their classmates?' Because we've taught a whole generation—a couple
    generations now—of Americans, that there's no right or wrong, that it's about survival of the fittest, and you evolve from the primordial slime. Why is that life of any sacred value? Because there's nobody sacred to whom it's owed."[104][114]
    So, in Canada Christians are persecuted? Should we no longer let anyone
    who is a Christian hold public office? How about the Muslims? Just
    kill all them too? Surely you want the Jews to go too. No question
    about that. Maybe you should be dictator and then everything would be
    "perfect".

    "bigot" defines you perfectly

    One strawman after another. I said he is a bigot and an idiot. Anyone who thinks the Earth is 5000 years old and that Noah built an arc and filled it with dinosaurs is a fucking moron. Doesn’t matter if they call it “religion” or
    not. Anyone who wants to criminalize being gay is a lowlife bigot. Doesn’t matter if they call it “religion” or not. You CHOOSE to accept those beliefs or not. He has chosen to be a bigot, Nobody is forcing him to believe that crap. Like I said, it
    doesn’t surprise me in the least that you think a piece of shit like that is a great guy and that you get along swimmingly.
    YOU Blab are the "bigot" ... maybe not world class ... just classless.

    Stop those Christians and Jews and whoever else believes something you
    do not believe ... amazing. They are all "believers" and you are the
    "bigot".

    big·ot
    /ˈbiɡət/
    noun
    a person who is obstinately or unreasonably attached to a belief,
    opinion, or faction, especially one who is prejudiced against or
    antagonistic toward a person or people on the basis of their membership
    of a particular group.

    Yes, that describes the two of you perfectly. Criminalize being gay? And I’m the bigot for calling out HIS extreme bigotry as you defend his persecution of gay people and tell everyone what a great guy he is? You are a joke.

    Pickle Louisiana logic: “My Nazi friend is a great guy. Sure, he believes all Jews should be thrown in the ovens, but he has to believe that because he’s a Nazi. We can’t hold that against him. If you hate someone just because they
    want to throw all Jews in the ovens then YOU are the bigot, not him.”

    Do the world a favour and go on a cruise and never come back. >>>>>>>>>> Mike Johnson (nor I) ever criminalized anyone for being gay. He has
    never persecuted any person for being gay. Apparently YOUR Nazi friend
    has a view of history that you do not find fault with ... lots of folks
    were eugenicists before (during) the second world war. I do not think
    they were in favor of exterminating the Jews, but they did have an
    opinion about superior species. But that was then, this is now. >>>>>>>>>>
    You, Blab, are the bigot. You also have lost your verve ... maybe you
    really are terminally ill ... if so, we will all pray for you ... in our
    own ways.

    Another low-IQ strawman. I didn’t say he or you criminalized being gay. He obviously would if he had that power, but I said he argued for it, which is a fact.

    Any more bullshit to defend your extreme bigotry and that of your wonderful friend?
    More pf the same, Blab ... more of the same. Keep up with your Nazi >>>>>>>> friends ... birds of a feather.

    You are the one who told everyone what great guy the piece of shit homophobe bigot is, not me.
    You have fallen and cannot get up ... you are a sad case.

    Are you now pretending you did not tell everyone what a great guy that piece of garbage homophobic bigot is? It’s pointless to lie. Everyone read it.
    So you hate Christians ... what else is new.

    No, I hate bigotry. We already covered hiding behind a “religion” or a “political ideology” as an excuse. Those things are choices. And no, hating bigotry does not make you a bigot. That is the reasoning of a mental case of your magnitude.

    Even though I don’t “hate” Christians (because some choose to ignore or reject the bigoted dogma), I do think Christians (and adherents to every other religion) are either morons or phonies, because what they claim to believe is absolutely
    ridiculous on its face. I believe the vast majority of Christians are just engaging in virtue signalling, because the way they live is hopelessly inconsistent with what they claim to believe. And I’m talking something in the range of 99 - 99.9%.
    You even confuse yourself with your blab.

    So you do not hate ALL Christians, just 99.9% of them. How about those
    JEWS?

    You can’t read. Your mind must be completely shot.
    You cannot read what you post ... more blab.

    A so-called Louisiana lawyer who can’t read. Quote me saying I hate 99.9% of Christians. You never tire of making a fool of yourself. What I said is that in my estimation 99-99.9% of people who call themselves “Christians” are either morons,
    phonies or both. They claim to believe absolutely ridiculous things and they do not live their lives as though they genuinely believe those things. What I hate is bigotry, and it doesn’t matter what so-called religion or political ideology you hide
    behind to justify it. Bigotry is a personal choice, and you have made your choice very clear for decades. This latest example of you claiming someone who wants to criminalize gay people is a “great person” is just another piece of straw on a gigantic
    haystack.

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  • From da pickle@21:1/5 to William Bradley on Wed Nov 8 15:47:18 2023
    On 11/8/2023 12:36 PM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Wednesday, November 8, 2023 at 6:59:44 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/8/2023 8:29 AM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Wednesday, November 8, 2023 at 5:40:45 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/7/2023 5:27 PM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Tuesday, November 7, 2023 at 3:09:59 PM UTC-8, da pickle wrote: >>>>>> On 11/6/2023 10:46 AM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Monday, November 6, 2023 at 5:40:47 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote: >>>>>>>> On 11/5/2023 8:26 PM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 6:03:44 PM UTC-8, da pickle wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 11/5/2023 11:34 AM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 9:27:54 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/5/2023 11:04 AM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 8:54:26 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/5/2023 10:13 AM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 6:00:41 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/4/2023 6:46 PM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Saturday, November 4, 2023 at 2:04:39 PM UTC-7, William Bradley wrote:
    On Saturday, November 4, 2023 at 10:30:39 AM UTC-7, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/4/2023 1:40 AM, William Bradley wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, November 3, 2023 at 9:59:28 AM UTC-7, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/3/2023 1:49 AM, Mossingen wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "da pickle" wrote in message
    news:2_CcnbSchrHopNn4...@giganews.com... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    The new speaker is a friend of mine ... a friendly nice and honest
    politician ... had to find in the House. [Or the other place.]


    _______________


    How in the world did he swing that? I'd never heard of this guy, there
    is infighting in the GOP, names bandied about, then poof! He appears
    out of nowhere as the Speaker.
    Come over for a visit and I will invite him over for dinner.

    Really nice guy.

    He is a piece of shit homophobe who argued to make 7% of Americans criminals because he didn’t agree with their sexual orientation. Not surprised you two bigots get along.
    You have fallen and cannot get up ... seek help. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    [Sorry if this fact is because of your medical condition ... it is hard
    to be as sick as you are.]
    In other words you have nothing. Like I said, you are every bit the bigoted piece of shit your asshole buddy is.

    And not only is he a world class bigot, he is also a complete fucking idiot:

    “Johnson holds young-Earth creationist beliefs.[112] He helped the Creation Museum secure millions of dollars of tax subsidies to build a life-sized Ark Encounter which teaches dinosaurs accompanied Noah during the flood.[113] In 2016,
    Johnson delivered a sermon that called the teaching of evolution one of the causes of mass shootings: "People say, 'How can a young person go into their schoolhouse and open fire on their classmates?' Because we've taught a whole generation—a couple
    generations now—of Americans, that there's no right or wrong, that it's about survival of the fittest, and you evolve from the primordial slime. Why is that life of any sacred value? Because there's nobody sacred to whom it's owed."[104][114]
    So, in Canada Christians are persecuted? Should we no longer let anyone
    who is a Christian hold public office? How about the Muslims? Just
    kill all them too? Surely you want the Jews to go too. No question
    about that. Maybe you should be dictator and then everything would be
    "perfect".

    "bigot" defines you perfectly

    One strawman after another. I said he is a bigot and an idiot. Anyone who thinks the Earth is 5000 years old and that Noah built an arc and filled it with dinosaurs is a fucking moron. Doesn’t matter if they call it “religion” or
    not. Anyone who wants to criminalize being gay is a lowlife bigot. Doesn’t matter if they call it “religion” or not. You CHOOSE to accept those beliefs or not. He has chosen to be a bigot, Nobody is forcing him to believe that crap. Like I said, it
    doesn’t surprise me in the least that you think a piece of shit like that is a great guy and that you get along swimmingly.
    YOU Blab are the "bigot" ... maybe not world class ... just classless.

    Stop those Christians and Jews and whoever else believes something you
    do not believe ... amazing. They are all "believers" and you are the
    "bigot".

    big·ot
    /ˈbiɡət/
    noun
    a person who is obstinately or unreasonably attached to a belief,
    opinion, or faction, especially one who is prejudiced against or >>>>>>>>>>>>>> antagonistic toward a person or people on the basis of their membership
    of a particular group.

    Yes, that describes the two of you perfectly. Criminalize being gay? And I’m the bigot for calling out HIS extreme bigotry as you defend his persecution of gay people and tell everyone what a great guy he is? You are a joke.

    Pickle Louisiana logic: “My Nazi friend is a great guy. Sure, he believes all Jews should be thrown in the ovens, but he has to believe that because he’s a Nazi. We can’t hold that against him. If you hate someone just because they
    want to throw all Jews in the ovens then YOU are the bigot, not him.” >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Do the world a favour and go on a cruise and never come back. >>>>>>>>>>>> Mike Johnson (nor I) ever criminalized anyone for being gay. He has
    never persecuted any person for being gay. Apparently YOUR Nazi friend
    has a view of history that you do not find fault with ... lots of folks
    were eugenicists before (during) the second world war. I do not think
    they were in favor of exterminating the Jews, but they did have an >>>>>>>>>>>> opinion about superior species. But that was then, this is now. >>>>>>>>>>>>
    You, Blab, are the bigot. You also have lost your verve ... maybe you
    really are terminally ill ... if so, we will all pray for you ... in our
    own ways.

    Another low-IQ strawman. I didn’t say he or you criminalized being gay. He obviously would if he had that power, but I said he argued for it, which is a fact.

    Any more bullshit to defend your extreme bigotry and that of your wonderful friend?
    More pf the same, Blab ... more of the same. Keep up with your Nazi >>>>>>>>>> friends ... birds of a feather.

    You are the one who told everyone what great guy the piece of shit homophobe bigot is, not me.
    You have fallen and cannot get up ... you are a sad case.

    Are you now pretending you did not tell everyone what a great guy that piece of garbage homophobic bigot is? It’s pointless to lie. Everyone read it.
    So you hate Christians ... what else is new.

    No, I hate bigotry. We already covered hiding behind a “religion” or a “political ideology” as an excuse. Those things are choices. And no, hating bigotry does not make you a bigot. That is the reasoning of a mental case of your magnitude.

    Even though I don’t “hate” Christians (because some choose to ignore or reject the bigoted dogma), I do think Christians (and adherents to every other religion) are either morons or phonies, because what they claim to believe is absolutely
    ridiculous on its face. I believe the vast majority of Christians are just engaging in virtue signalling, because the way they live is hopelessly inconsistent with what they claim to believe. And I’m talking something in the range of 99 - 99.9%.
    You even confuse yourself with your blab.

    So you do not hate ALL Christians, just 99.9% of them. How about those >>>> JEWS?

    You can’t read. Your mind must be completely shot.
    You cannot read what you post ... more blab.

    A so-called Louisiana lawyer who can’t read. Quote me saying I hate 99.9% of Christians. You never tire of making a fool of yourself. What I said is that in my estimation 99-99.9% of people who call themselves “Christians” are either morons,
    phonies or both. They claim to believe absolutely ridiculous things and they do not live their lives as though they genuinely believe those things. What I hate is bigotry, and it doesn’t matter what so-called religion or political ideology you hide
    behind to justify it. Bigotry is a personal choice, and you have made your choice very clear for decades. This latest example of you claiming someone who wants to criminalize gay people is a “great person” is just another piece of straw on a gigantic
    haystack.

    Blab on ...

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  • From Mossingen@21:1/5 to All on Wed Nov 8 13:11:28 2023
    "da pickle" wrote in message news:IoidnUDt1aIqXtf4nZ2dnZfqlJz-fwAA@giganews.com...


    So you hate Christians ... what else is new.


    __________


    He's saying that odd personal beliefs are fine, but when someone with those beliefs holds public office and is capable of forming public policy into
    law, it's reasonable to critique/question those beliefs. He's not wrong,
    just very abrasive in the way he's saying it.

    I'm sure Speaker Johnson is a nice guy, and I have no doubt you know him personally. But if he truly believes that the Earth is 6,000 years old or
    that homosexuals should be imprisoned, I question whether he should be in charge of the American legal process, even if I would otherwise enjoy his company at dinner.

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  • From da pickle@21:1/5 to Mossingen on Thu Nov 9 12:05:22 2023
    On 11/8/2023 1:11 PM, Mossingen wrote:
    "da pickle"  wrote in message news:IoidnUDt1aIqXtf4nZ2dnZfqlJz-fwAA@giganews.com...


    So you hate Christians ... what else is new.


    __________


    He's saying that odd personal beliefs are fine, but when someone with
    those beliefs holds public office and is capable of forming public
    policy into law, it's reasonable to critique/question those beliefs.
    He's not wrong, just very abrasive in the way he's saying it.

    I'm sure Speaker Johnson is a nice guy, and I have no doubt you know him personally.  But if he truly believes that the Earth is 6,000 years old
    or that homosexuals should be imprisoned, I question whether he should
    be in charge of the American legal process, even if I would otherwise
    enjoy his company at dinner.

    Blab is not reasonable about anything (IMO) ... but you are always
    reasonable in yours (IMO) ... I do not think he currently would be in
    favor of doing anything to homosexuals except to not believe that their lifestyle is worthy of a Christian lifestyle ... (IMO).

    When it comes to legislation, I would hope he will be a great help in
    getting the extreme left ideas in order while giving up some of the
    extreme right ideas. That is what compromise is all about. I do not
    know what his stand might be on the rights of the States as compared to
    the Federal government. I am usually very pro-State, with exceptions.

    Right now, for example, some States are prohibiting any abortion and
    some States are way late in getting the child murdered/killed/slaughtered/eliminated? I favor getting back to the
    ultimate compromise of Roe v Wade ... my wife hates any abortion, but
    that is her right. I do not like abortion, but I understand that others
    might be quite reasonable in wanting to make a sort of Sophie' choice at
    early stages ... I cannot condone those who would kill a child for no reasonable reason "too late" and there should be other reasons for
    allowing the middle. These are hard choices.

    [The fed must be involved because Roe was unconstitutional. Why not
    just pass it into law. Mike Johnson might be just the guy to reach such
    a compromise. There are many in many States who would not have any
    restriction at all. I find those people repugnant in my opinion, but
    that is just another opinion.]

    Mike Johnson is in a quite different position now. He might have to put
    aside some of his religious beliefs to properly govern. If he cannot,
    he does indeed need to be removed. Maybe the MOB needs to be removed
    and then the MIDDLE might get on with life. Blab would not ever believe
    that compromise is appropriate for someone like him ... who "knows the
    truth" about "things". Thanks for the come back ... you would like Mike.

    [I remember when I first started out in law, I did some mandatory
    criminal cases ... some were easy ... some were hard ... most could be
    resolved with the cooperation of the ADAs and myself finding good
    compromises ... saves the state money and the guy (almost always the
    guy) a good result. Folks are "guilty" of serious and not-so-serious
    stuff] Compromise is often better than a win or a loss. Life and the
    law is not ever "perfect".

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  • From RichD@21:1/5 to Mossingen on Thu Nov 9 17:29:37 2023
    On November 8, Mossingen wrote:
    He's saying that odd personal beliefs are fine, but when someone with those beliefs holds public office and is capable of forming public policy into
    law, it's reasonable to critique/question those beliefs. He's not wrong,
    just very abrasive in the way he's saying it.
    But if he truly believes that the Earth is 6,000 years old or
    that homosexuals should be imprisoned, I question whether he should be in charge of the American legal process, even if I would otherwise enjoy his company at dinner.

    This is a thorny topic.

    At the local level, policy matters little. So for roads commission or mosquito abatement,
    character and intelligence counts most. You want to elect people of good reputation.

    However, the federal gov't has grown so monstrous, so intrusive, that policy must
    weigh heaviest. Therefore, while I'm concerned that a creationist would take an
    influential position, he's still preferable to any Big Brother socialist DemocRat, at
    least until proven otherwise.

    The same could be said of Drumpf. He's repugnant, and unqualified for any executive
    position, but on policy, he's preferable to Biden - I refer you to the Inflation Reduction Act.
    (can anybody say that with a poker face?)

    --
    Rich

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  • From Mossingen@21:1/5 to Mossingen on Thu Nov 9 20:19:21 2023
    "RichD" wrote in message news:8efa3722-aa8b-4bc5-895d-bcd4ba846d2dn@googlegroups.com...

    On November 8, Mossingen wrote:
    He's saying that odd personal beliefs are fine, but when someone with
    those
    beliefs holds public office and is capable of forming public policy into
    law, it's reasonable to critique/question those beliefs. He's not wrong,
    just very abrasive in the way he's saying it.
    But if he truly believes that the Earth is 6,000 years old or
    that homosexuals should be imprisoned, I question whether he should be in charge of the American legal process, even if I would otherwise enjoy his company at dinner.

    This is a thorny topic.

    At the local level, policy matters little. So for roads commission or
    mosquito abatement,
    character and intelligence counts most. You want to elect people of good reputation.

    However, the federal gov't has grown so monstrous, so intrusive, that policy must
    weigh heaviest. Therefore, while I'm concerned that a creationist would
    take an
    influential position, he's still preferable to any Big Brother socialist DemocRat, at
    least until proven otherwise.

    The same could be said of Drumpf. He's repugnant, and unqualified for any executive
    position, but on policy, he's preferable to Biden - I refer you to the Inflation Reduction Act.
    (can anybody say that with a poker face?)

    --
    Rich



    ______________



    Pretty much. Trump was and is a narcissistic abrasive asshole, but he was mostly correct on the larger policy issues. That resulted in a leader we didn't like personally making the country great. With Biden, the Democrats have a leader they like personally, but at the expense of the country.

    I really like Vivek Ramaswamy. He has Trump vision and swagger, but with youth, energy and intelligence to create the policy paths of his vision. Of course, if they throw Trump in jail and he's still on the ballot I am 100% voting for Trump because "fuck you" that's why.

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  • From da pickle@21:1/5 to Mossingen on Fri Nov 10 09:12:38 2023
    On 11/9/2023 8:19 PM, Mossingen wrote:
    "RichD"  wrote in message news:8efa3722-aa8b-4bc5-895d-bcd4ba846d2dn@googlegroups.com...

    On November 8, Mossingen wrote:
    He's saying that odd personal beliefs are fine, but when someone with
    those
    beliefs holds public office and is capable of forming public policy into
    law, it's reasonable to critique/question those beliefs. He's not wrong,
    just very abrasive in the way he's saying it.
    But if he truly believes that the Earth is 6,000 years old or
    that homosexuals should be imprisoned, I question whether he should be in
    charge of the American legal process, even if I would otherwise enjoy his
    company at dinner.

    This is a thorny topic.

    At the local level, policy matters little.  So for roads commission or mosquito abatement,
    character and intelligence counts most.  You want to elect people of
    good reputation.

    However, the federal gov't has grown so monstrous, so intrusive, that
    policy must
    weigh heaviest.  Therefore, while I'm concerned that a creationist would take an
    influential position, he's still preferable to any Big Brother socialist DemocRat, at
    least until proven otherwise.

    The same could be said of Drumpf.  He's repugnant, and unqualified for
    any executive
    position, but on policy, he's preferable to Biden - I refer you to the Inflation Reduction Act.
    (can anybody say that with a poker face?)

    --
    Rich



    ______________



    Pretty much.  Trump was and is a narcissistic abrasive asshole, but he
    was mostly correct on the larger policy issues.  That resulted in a
    leader we didn't like personally making the country great.  With Biden,
    the Democrats have a leader they like personally, but at the expense of
    the country.

    I really like Vivek Ramaswamy.  He has Trump vision and swagger, but
    with youth, energy and intelligence to create the policy paths of his vision.  Of course, if they throw Trump in jail and he's still on the
    ballot I am 100% voting for Trump because "fuck you" that's why.

    Do not vote for the one that is "worse" than the only other one. Works
    for me too.

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to Mossingen on Fri Nov 10 07:55:56 2023
    On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 6:19:32 PM UTC-8, Mossingen wrote:
    "RichD" wrote in message
    news:8efa3722-aa8b-4bc5...@googlegroups.com...
    On November 8, Mossingen wrote:
    He's saying that odd personal beliefs are fine, but when someone with those
    beliefs holds public office and is capable of forming public policy into law, it's reasonable to critique/question those beliefs. He's not wrong, just very abrasive in the way he's saying it.
    But if he truly believes that the Earth is 6,000 years old or
    that homosexuals should be imprisoned, I question whether he should be in charge of the American legal process, even if I would otherwise enjoy his company at dinner.

    This is a thorny topic.

    At the local level, policy matters little. So for roads commission or mosquito abatement,
    character and intelligence counts most. You want to elect people of good reputation.

    However, the federal gov't has grown so monstrous, so intrusive, that policy must
    weigh heaviest. Therefore, while I'm concerned that a creationist would
    take an
    influential position, he's still preferable to any Big Brother socialist DemocRat, at
    least until proven otherwise.

    The same could be said of Drumpf. He's repugnant, and unqualified for any executive
    position, but on policy, he's preferable to Biden - I refer you to the Inflation Reduction Act.
    (can anybody say that with a poker face?)

    --
    Rich
    ______________



    Pretty much. Trump was and is a narcissistic abrasive asshole, but he was mostly correct on the larger policy issues. That resulted in a leader we didn't like personally making the country great. With Biden, the Democrats have a leader they like personally, but at the expense of the country.

    I really like Vivek Ramaswamy. He has Trump vision and swagger, but with youth, energy and intelligence to create the policy paths of his vision. Of course, if they throw Trump in jail and he's still on the ballot I am 100% voting for Trump because "fuck you" that's why.
    .

    Yea. So "Fuck me and my family" with your Republican Party Platform. We lose our Social
    Security, Medicare, Women's rights to their bodies and Obamacare *


    * ACA "Let insurance companied drop you for preexisting condones."

    (Meaning my $1,500 a DAY for my cancer pills (Republicans won't let Medicare negotiate prices. Medicare must pay what they ask). It means we must sell our house, move across town and rent, spend all the house money and our saving, sell one car, THEN we qualify for Medicate. - Where Republicans have allowed it.

    And Medicaid gets to negotiate prices with Big Pharma. (Gee how nice of the Republicans).

    Forbes business magazine had an article about 6-8 months ago. Big Pharma produced 22
    new Billionaires in the last 2-years. No telling how many Millionaires.

    Trump was mostly correct on the larger policy issues..

    So you don't mind if I say, "Fuck you and your family, too." And only hope you and your family
    become as destitute as you wish we became.

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  • From da pickle@21:1/5 to VegasJerry on Fri Nov 10 10:28:12 2023
    On 11/10/2023 9:55 AM, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 6:19:32 PM UTC-8, Mossingen wrote:
    "RichD" wrote in message
    news:8efa3722-aa8b-4bc5...@googlegroups.com...
    On November 8, Mossingen wrote:
    He's saying that odd personal beliefs are fine, but when someone with
    those
    beliefs holds public office and is capable of forming public policy into >>> law, it's reasonable to critique/question those beliefs. He's not wrong, >>> just very abrasive in the way he's saying it.
    But if he truly believes that the Earth is 6,000 years old or
    that homosexuals should be imprisoned, I question whether he should be in >>> charge of the American legal process, even if I would otherwise enjoy his >>> company at dinner.

    This is a thorny topic.

    At the local level, policy matters little. So for roads commission or
    mosquito abatement,
    character and intelligence counts most. You want to elect people of good
    reputation.

    However, the federal gov't has grown so monstrous, so intrusive, that policy >> must
    weigh heaviest. Therefore, while I'm concerned that a creationist would
    take an
    influential position, he's still preferable to any Big Brother socialist
    DemocRat, at
    least until proven otherwise.

    The same could be said of Drumpf. He's repugnant, and unqualified for any
    executive
    position, but on policy, he's preferable to Biden - I refer you to the
    Inflation Reduction Act.
    (can anybody say that with a poker face?)

    --
    Rich
    ______________



    Pretty much. Trump was and is a narcissistic abrasive asshole, but he was
    mostly correct on the larger policy issues. That resulted in a leader we
    didn't like personally making the country great. With Biden, the Democrats >> have a leader they like personally, but at the expense of the country.

    I really like Vivek Ramaswamy. He has Trump vision and swagger, but with
    youth, energy and intelligence to create the policy paths of his vision. Of >> course, if they throw Trump in jail and he's still on the ballot I am 100% >> voting for Trump because "fuck you" that's why.
    .

    Yea. So "Fuck me and my family" with your Republican Party Platform. We lose our Social
    Security, Medicare, Women's rights to their bodies and Obamacare *


    * ACA "Let insurance companied drop you for preexisting condones."

    (Meaning my $1,500 a DAY for my cancer pills (Republicans won't let Medicare negotiate prices. Medicare must pay what they ask). It means we must sell our house, move across town and rent, spend all the house money and our saving, sell one car, THEN we qualify for Medicate. - Where Republicans have allowed it.

    And Medicaid gets to negotiate prices with Big Pharma. (Gee how nice of the Republicans).

    Forbes business magazine had an article about 6-8 months ago. Big Pharma produced 22
    new Billionaires in the last 2-years. No telling how many Millionaires.

    Trump was mostly correct on the larger policy issues..

    So you don't mind if I say, "Fuck you and your family, too." And only hope you and your family
    become as destitute as you wish we became.

    I thought Biden fixed everything!?!?

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  • From William Bradley@21:1/5 to Mossingen on Fri Nov 10 09:53:57 2023
    On Wednesday, November 8, 2023 at 7:28:45 PM UTC-8, Mossingen wrote:
    "da pickle" wrote in message
    news:IoidnUDt1aIqXtf4...@giganews.com...
    So you hate Christians ... what else is new.
    __________


    He's saying that odd personal beliefs are fine, but when someone with those beliefs holds public office and is capable of forming public policy into law, it's reasonable to critique/question those beliefs. He's not wrong, just very abrasive in the way he's saying it.

    I'm sure Speaker Johnson is a nice guy, and I have no doubt you know him personally. But if he truly believes that the Earth is 6,000 years old or that homosexuals should be imprisoned, I question whether he should be in charge of the American legal process, even if I would otherwise enjoy his company at dinner.

    Not exactly. The reason I am being abrasive is because I am mad as hell and fed up to the eyeballs of all the hate and bigotry coming from the right. Everyone from gay people to minorities to beer companies to the NFL to Target to Taylor Swift is an
    object of their seething hatred, Go to the Fox News message boards. It is ENDLESS. Of course it’s worse if someone has the political power to implement the hatred and persecution, but it is equally harmful when embraced by the masses. What did gay
    people do to anyone? Nothing. And he argues to criminalize them, tells everyone they are a risk to civilization, wants to annul their marriages which he compares to marrying a dog? Oh yes, and let’s not forget he says if you want to know his position
    on anything you need only to consult the ridiculous storybook known as the Bible. You know what the Bible says should be done to gay people, right? Genocide.

    And this idea that he’s a great guy to have dinner with even though if he had his way gay people would be wiped off the face of the Earth is absolutely repulsive, as is the idea that he is powerless to change his warped beliefs because “it’s his
    religion.” He’s not a good guy. He’s a bigoted asshole.

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  • From Mossingen@21:1/5 to All on Fri Nov 10 11:36:19 2023
    "VegasJerry" wrote in message news:9e8bf915-f63e-4d2a-bda9-939de23e591cn@googlegroups.com...

    On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 6:19:32 PM UTC-8, Mossingen wrote:

    So you don't mind if I say, "Fuck you and your family, too." And only hope
    you and your family
    become as destitute as you wish we became.


    _______________


    You're a deluded old man who will vote for anyone who promises you the shiny thing you need. Ever give any thought to the country your kids and
    grandkids are going to inherit?

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to da pickle on Fri Nov 10 12:09:14 2023
    On Friday, November 10, 2023 at 8:28:19 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/10/2023 9:55 AM, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 6:19:32 PM UTC-8, Mossingen wrote:
    "RichD" wrote in message
    news:8efa3722-aa8b-4bc5...@googlegroups.com...
    On November 8, Mossingen wrote:
    He's saying that odd personal beliefs are fine, but when someone with >>> those
    beliefs holds public office and is capable of forming public policy into >>> law, it's reasonable to critique/question those beliefs. He's not wrong, >>> just very abrasive in the way he's saying it.
    But if he truly believes that the Earth is 6,000 years old or
    that homosexuals should be imprisoned, I question whether he should be in
    charge of the American legal process, even if I would otherwise enjoy his
    company at dinner.

    This is a thorny topic.

    At the local level, policy matters little. So for roads commission or
    mosquito abatement,
    character and intelligence counts most. You want to elect people of good >> reputation.

    However, the federal gov't has grown so monstrous, so intrusive, that policy
    must
    weigh heaviest. Therefore, while I'm concerned that a creationist would >> take an
    influential position, he's still preferable to any Big Brother socialist >> DemocRat, at
    least until proven otherwise.

    The same could be said of Drumpf. He's repugnant, and unqualified for any >> executive
    position, but on policy, he's preferable to Biden - I refer you to the
    Inflation Reduction Act.
    (can anybody say that with a poker face?)

    --
    Rich
    ______________



    Pretty much. Trump was and is a narcissistic abrasive asshole, but he was >> mostly correct on the larger policy issues. That resulted in a leader we >> didn't like personally making the country great. With Biden, the Democrats
    have a leader they like personally, but at the expense of the country.

    I really like Vivek Ramaswamy. He has Trump vision and swagger, but with >> youth, energy and intelligence to create the policy paths of his vision. Of
    course, if they throw Trump in jail and he's still on the ballot I am 100%
    voting for Trump because "fuck you" that's why.
    .

    Yea. So "Fuck me and my family" with your Republican Party Platform. We lose our Social
    Security, Medicare, Women's rights to their bodies and Obamacare *


    * ACA "Let insurance companied drop you for preexisting condones."

    (Meaning my $1,500 a DAY for my cancer pills (Republicans won't let Medicare
    negotiate prices. Medicare must pay what they ask). It means we must sell our
    house, move across town and rent, spend all the house money and our saving,
    sell one car, THEN we qualify for Medicate. - Where Republicans have allowed it.

    And Medicaid gets to negotiate prices with Big Pharma. (Gee how nice of the Republicans).

    Forbes business magazine had an article about 6-8 months ago. Big Pharma produced 22
    new Billionaires in the last 2-years. No telling how many Millionaires.

    Trump was mostly correct on the larger policy issues..

    So you don't mind if I say, "Fuck you and your family, too." And only hope you and your family
    become as destitute as you wish we became.
    .

    I thought Biden fixed everything!?!?
    .

    What you "think" never seems to matter anymore because you always run when you find you 'thought wrong.'

    We're talking about The Republican Party Platform.
    Try to keep up...

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to William Bradley on Fri Nov 10 12:45:58 2023
    On Friday, November 10, 2023 at 9:54:02 AM UTC-8, William Bradley wrote:
    On Wednesday, November 8, 2023 at 7:28:45 PM UTC-8, Mossingen wrote:
    "da pickle" wrote in message
    news:IoidnUDt1aIqXtf4...@giganews.com...
    So you hate Christians ... what else is new.
    __________


    He's saying that odd personal beliefs are fine, but when someone with those
    beliefs holds public office and is capable of forming public policy into law, it's reasonable to critique/question those beliefs. He's not wrong, just very abrasive in the way he's saying it.

    I'm sure Speaker Johnson is a nice guy, and I have no doubt you know him personally. But if he truly believes that the Earth is 6,000 years old or that homosexuals should be imprisoned, I question whether he should be in charge of the American legal process, even if I would otherwise enjoy his company at dinner.
    .
    Not exactly. The reason I am being abrasive is because I am mad as hell and fed up to the eyeballs of all the hate and bigotry coming from the right. Everyone from gay people to minorities to beer companies to the NFL to Target to Taylor Swift is an
    object of their seething hatred, Go to the Fox News message boards. It is ENDLESS. Of course it’s worse if someone has the political power to implement the hatred and persecution, but it is equally harmful when embraced by the masses. What did gay
    people do to anyone? Nothing. And he argues to criminalize them, tells everyone they are a risk to civilization, wants to annul their marriages which he compares to marrying a dog? Oh yes, and let’s not forget he says if you want to know his position
    on anything you need only to consult the ridiculous storybook known as the Bible. You know what the Bible says should be done to gay people, right? Genocide.

    And this idea that he’s a great guy to have dinner with even though if he had his way gay people would be wiped off the face of the Earth is absolutely repulsive, as is the idea that he is powerless to change his warped beliefs because “it’s his
    religion.” He’s not a good guy. He’s a bigoted asshole.
    .

    Then we I have a question for JJJ Johnson...

    The very reason the church wants your attendance is first, to get money from you. They may even have a second “Special Offering for (noun).” Next. They don’t want you to read the bible on your own. THEY will read it to you. That way, next week,
    they can skip over the parts they don’t want you to see. (Buffett Christians) Like their big one:

    I did extensive research into religion. If there really were a god, I didn’t want to get left out. (Burn forever in hell by our ‘forgiving savior.’) But so far, no god and when it comes to the bible (the parts the Romans allowed to stay in). I’ve
    got Infor for Football, marriage, etc., but the BIG one for Republicans is:

    **** ABORTION ****

    As far as religion and abortion goes, the silence of the New Testament regarding abortion surpasses even that of the Old Testament.

    Exodus 21:22 explicitly prescribes a financial settlement for causing a miscarriage. That verse is immediately followed by the injunction "thou shalt give life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot" in Exodus 21:23-24.
    Since a mere financial settlement is sufficient to make amends for causing a miscarriage, it is clear that in this context causing a miscarriage is not considered taking a life.

    In Genesis 38:24 Judah orders that pregnant Tamar be burned alive. In Numbers 5: 17-31 women who are suspected of committing adultery must drink a magic potion that, if they were guilty and pregnant at the time, would certainly induce miscarriages.

    Exodus 13:1-2 indicates that the ancestors of the Israelites probably at one time actually sacrificed their first born children as is further implied by Genesis 22:1-14. Other references of human sacrifices in the Hebrew Scriptures are found at: Judges
    11:29-40, I Kings 16:34, II Kings 16:3, II Kings 17:17, II Kings 21:6, Isaiah 57:5, Jeremiah 7:31, Exodus 22:29. Numerous other references show the low regard for newborn human life during that era.

    In Matthew 15:3-4 Jesus even approved of his Father's command that children who curse their parents are to be put to death. Jesus in Mark 7:9-13 chastised Pharisees for failing to kill those children who defied their parents' commands.
    ____________

    So what’s Johnsons answer to all that. In fact, you dipshit wingnuts? Hello? What say you about abortion now?

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  • From Mossingen@21:1/5 to Mossingen on Fri Nov 10 19:51:19 2023
    "William Bradley" wrote in message news:8cff4da1-763f-46ee-84c3-2a1245a7e70an@googlegroups.com...

    On Wednesday, November 8, 2023 at 7:28:45 PM UTC-8, Mossingen wrote:
    "da pickle" wrote in message
    news:IoidnUDt1aIqXtf4...@giganews.com...
    So you hate Christians ... what else is new.
    __________


    He's saying that odd personal beliefs are fine, but when someone with
    those
    beliefs holds public office and is capable of forming public policy into
    law, it's reasonable to critique/question those beliefs. He's not wrong,
    just very abrasive in the way he's saying it.

    I'm sure Speaker Johnson is a nice guy, and I have no doubt you know him personally. But if he truly believes that the Earth is 6,000 years old or that homosexuals should be imprisoned, I question whether he should be in charge of the American legal process, even if I would otherwise enjoy his company at dinner.

    Not exactly. The reason I am being abrasive is because I am mad as hell and
    fed up to the eyeballs of all the hate and bigotry coming from the right. Everyone from gay people to minorities to beer companies to the NFL to
    Target to Taylor Swift is an object of their seething hatred, Go to the Fox News message boards. It is ENDLESS. Of course it’s worse if someone has the political power to implement the hatred and persecution, but it is equally harmful when embraced by the masses. What did gay people do to anyone?
    Nothing. And he argues to criminalize them, tells everyone they are a risk
    to civilization, wants to annul their marriages which he compares to
    marrying a dog? Oh yes, and let’s not forget he says if you want to know his position on anything you need only to consult the ridiculous storybook known
    as the Bible. You know what the Bible says should be done to gay people,
    right? Genocide.

    And this idea that he’s a great guy to have dinner with even though if he
    had his way gay people would be wiped off the face of the Earth is
    absolutely repulsive, as is the idea that he is powerless to change his
    warped beliefs because “it’s his religion.” He’s not a good guy. He’s a
    bigoted asshole.

    ______________


    Yes, Bill, we get it. The Left is worked up in a constant state of outrage over...well, everything.

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  • From William Bradley@21:1/5 to Mossingen on Fri Nov 10 18:18:41 2023
    On Friday, November 10, 2023 at 5:51:29 PM UTC-8, Mossingen wrote:
    "William Bradley" wrote in message news:8cff4da1-763f-46ee...@googlegroups.com...
    On Wednesday, November 8, 2023 at 7:28:45 PM UTC-8, Mossingen wrote:
    "da pickle" wrote in message
    news:IoidnUDt1aIqXtf4...@giganews.com...
    So you hate Christians ... what else is new.
    __________


    He's saying that odd personal beliefs are fine, but when someone with those
    beliefs holds public office and is capable of forming public policy into law, it's reasonable to critique/question those beliefs. He's not wrong, just very abrasive in the way he's saying it.

    I'm sure Speaker Johnson is a nice guy, and I have no doubt you know him personally. But if he truly believes that the Earth is 6,000 years old or that homosexuals should be imprisoned, I question whether he should be in charge of the American legal process, even if I would otherwise enjoy his company at dinner.

    Not exactly. The reason I am being abrasive is because I am mad as hell and fed up to the eyeballs of all the hate and bigotry coming from the right. Everyone from gay people to minorities to beer companies to the NFL to Target to Taylor Swift is an object of their seething hatred, Go to the Fox News message boards. It is ENDLESS. Of course it’s worse if someone has the
    political power to implement the hatred and persecution, but it is equally harmful when embraced by the masses. What did gay people do to anyone? Nothing. And he argues to criminalize them, tells everyone they are a risk to civilization, wants to annul their marriages which he compares to marrying a dog? Oh yes, and let’s not forget he says if you want to know his
    position on anything you need only to consult the ridiculous storybook known as the Bible. You know what the Bible says should be done to gay people, right? Genocide.

    And this idea that he’s a great guy to have dinner with even though if he had his way gay people would be wiped off the face of the Earth is absolutely repulsive, as is the idea that he is powerless to change his warped beliefs because “it’s his religion.” He’s not a good guy. He’s a
    bigoted asshole.
    ______________


    Yes, Bill, we get it. The Left is worked up in a constant state of outrage over...well, everything.

    You got it backwards. Pretty much the only thing I see the left outraged about is right-wing in your face bigotry and the attempted imposition of obviously bogus and ridiculous religious doctrine on their lives (and I’m right there with them). Do you
    want a start of list of all the things and people right-wingers hate (most of which and whom have zero impact on their lives)? I’m fairly convinced that over 95% of the bigots spewing and promoting endless hatred toward transgender people have never
    even seen one (let alone interacted with one) in real life. Hating is just a sport to them. Take my advice and read the Fox News message boards. It is sickening.

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  • From Mossingen@21:1/5 to All on Fri Nov 10 23:06:28 2023
    .
    "William Bradley" wrote in message news:f6df9030-f286-49aa-ad20-8dfb4f1d49fbn@googlegroups.com...

    You got it backwards. Pretty much the only thing I see the left outraged
    about is right-wing in your face bigotry and the attempted imposition of obviously bogus and ridiculous religious doctrine on their lives (and I’m right there with them). Do you want a start of list of all the things and people right-wingers hate (most of which and whom have zero impact on their lives)? I’m fairly convinced that over 95% of the bigots spewing and promoting endless hatred toward transgender people have never even seen one (let alone interacted with one) in real life. Hating is just a sport to
    them. Take my advice and read the Fox News message boards. It is sickening.

    _____________


    Have you been paying attention to the Jew-hatred on college campuses? It's
    not conservatives. It's scary.

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  • From William Bradley@21:1/5 to Mossingen on Fri Nov 10 21:24:20 2023
    On Friday, November 10, 2023 at 9:06:38 PM UTC-8, Mossingen wrote:
    .
    "William Bradley" wrote in message news:f6df9030-f286-49aa...@googlegroups.com...
    You got it backwards. Pretty much the only thing I see the left outraged about is right-wing in your face bigotry and the attempted imposition of obviously bogus and ridiculous religious doctrine on their lives (and I’m right there with them). Do you want a start of list of all the things and people right-wingers hate (most of which and whom have zero impact on their lives)? I’m fairly convinced that over 95% of the bigots spewing and promoting endless hatred toward transgender people have never even seen one (let alone interacted with one) in real life. Hating is just a sport to them. Take my advice and read the Fox News message boards. It is sickening. _____________


    Have you been paying attention to the Jew-hatred on college campuses? It's not conservatives. It's scary.

    I read a poll that 49% of QAnon supporters believe Jewish people are part of a conspiracy to take over the world. That’s like the wackiest 25% of Trump supporters, right? I don’t get it. I do get why people are angry about 10,000 innocent Gazan
    civilians being killed in a month, 4000 of whom were children, and the Israeli government publicly bragging that they’ve barely gotten started.

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  • From da pickle@21:1/5 to William Bradley on Sun Nov 12 07:03:34 2023
    On 11/10/2023 11:24 PM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Friday, November 10, 2023 at 9:06:38 PM UTC-8, Mossingen wrote:
    .
    "William Bradley" wrote in message
    news:f6df9030-f286-49aa...@googlegroups.com...
    You got it backwards. Pretty much the only thing I see the left outraged
    about is right-wing in your face bigotry and the attempted imposition of
    obviously bogus and ridiculous religious doctrine on their lives (and I’m >> right there with them). Do you want a start of list of all the things and
    people right-wingers hate (most of which and whom have zero impact on their >> lives)? I’m fairly convinced that over 95% of the bigots spewing and
    promoting endless hatred toward transgender people have never even seen one >> (let alone interacted with one) in real life. Hating is just a sport to
    them. Take my advice and read the Fox News message boards. It is sickening. >> _____________


    Have you been paying attention to the Jew-hatred on college campuses? It's >> not conservatives. It's scary.

    I read a poll that 49% of QAnon supporters believe Jewish people are part of a conspiracy to take over the world. That’s like the wackiest 25% of Trump supporters, right? I don’t get it. I do get why people are angry about 10,000 innocent Gazan
    civilians being killed in a month, 4000 of whom were children, and the Israeli government publicly bragging that they’ve barely gotten started.

    Are those antisemitic folks the ones he was talking about on college
    campuses? You really think they are supporting Trump?

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  • From Tim Norfolk@21:1/5 to da pickle on Sun Nov 12 11:14:02 2023
    On Sunday, November 12, 2023 at 8:03:40 AM UTC-5, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/10/2023 11:24 PM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Friday, November 10, 2023 at 9:06:38 PM UTC-8, Mossingen wrote:
    .
    "William Bradley" wrote in message
    news:f6df9030-f286-49aa...@googlegroups.com...
    You got it backwards. Pretty much the only thing I see the left outraged >> about is right-wing in your face bigotry and the attempted imposition of >> obviously bogus and ridiculous religious doctrine on their lives (and I’m
    right there with them). Do you want a start of list of all the things and >> people right-wingers hate (most of which and whom have zero impact on their
    lives)? I’m fairly convinced that over 95% of the bigots spewing and
    promoting endless hatred toward transgender people have never even seen one
    (let alone interacted with one) in real life. Hating is just a sport to >> them. Take my advice and read the Fox News message boards. It is sickening.
    _____________


    Have you been paying attention to the Jew-hatred on college campuses? It's
    not conservatives. It's scary.

    I read a poll that 49% of QAnon supporters believe Jewish people are part of a conspiracy to take over the world. That’s like the wackiest 25% of Trump supporters, right? I don’t get it. I do get why people are angry about 10,000 innocent Gazan
    civilians being killed in a month, 4000 of whom were children, and the Israeli government publicly bragging that they’ve barely gotten started.
    Are those antisemitic folks the ones he was talking about on college campuses? You really think they are supporting Trump?

    A good number are.

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  • From da pickle@21:1/5 to Tim Norfolk on Sun Nov 12 16:35:54 2023
    On 11/12/2023 1:14 PM, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Sunday, November 12, 2023 at 8:03:40 AM UTC-5, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/10/2023 11:24 PM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Friday, November 10, 2023 at 9:06:38 PM UTC-8, Mossingen wrote:
    .
    "William Bradley" wrote in message
    news:f6df9030-f286-49aa...@googlegroups.com...
    You got it backwards. Pretty much the only thing I see the left outraged >>>> about is right-wing in your face bigotry and the attempted imposition of >>>> obviously bogus and ridiculous religious doctrine on their lives (and I’m
    right there with them). Do you want a start of list of all the things and >>>> people right-wingers hate (most of which and whom have zero impact on their
    lives)? I’m fairly convinced that over 95% of the bigots spewing and >>>> promoting endless hatred toward transgender people have never even seen one
    (let alone interacted with one) in real life. Hating is just a sport to >>>> them. Take my advice and read the Fox News message boards. It is sickening.
    _____________


    Have you been paying attention to the Jew-hatred on college campuses? It's >>>> not conservatives. It's scary.

    I read a poll that 49% of QAnon supporters believe Jewish people are part of a conspiracy to take over the world. That’s like the wackiest 25% of Trump supporters, right? I don’t get it. I do get why people are angry about 10,000 innocent Gazan
    civilians being killed in a month, 4000 of whom were children, and the Israeli government publicly bragging that they’ve barely gotten started.
    Are those antisemitic folks the ones he was talking about on college
    campuses? You really think they are supporting Trump?

    A good number are.

    You are so full of it, Tim. No wonder you disappear so often.

    [Thanks again for admitting you would not play Say Red with me because
    you knew I would win.]

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  • From Tim Norfolk@21:1/5 to da pickle on Sun Nov 12 18:45:04 2023
    On Sunday, November 12, 2023 at 5:36:00 PM UTC-5, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/12/2023 1:14 PM, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Sunday, November 12, 2023 at 8:03:40 AM UTC-5, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/10/2023 11:24 PM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Friday, November 10, 2023 at 9:06:38 PM UTC-8, Mossingen wrote: >>>> .
    "William Bradley" wrote in message
    news:f6df9030-f286-49aa...@googlegroups.com...
    You got it backwards. Pretty much the only thing I see the left outraged
    about is right-wing in your face bigotry and the attempted imposition of
    obviously bogus and ridiculous religious doctrine on their lives (and I’m
    right there with them). Do you want a start of list of all the things and
    people right-wingers hate (most of which and whom have zero impact on their
    lives)? I’m fairly convinced that over 95% of the bigots spewing and >>>> promoting endless hatred toward transgender people have never even seen one
    (let alone interacted with one) in real life. Hating is just a sport to >>>> them. Take my advice and read the Fox News message boards. It is sickening.
    _____________


    Have you been paying attention to the Jew-hatred on college campuses? It's
    not conservatives. It's scary.

    I read a poll that 49% of QAnon supporters believe Jewish people are part of a conspiracy to take over the world. That’s like the wackiest 25% of Trump supporters, right? I don’t get it. I do get why people are angry about 10,000 innocent Gazan
    civilians being killed in a month, 4000 of whom were children, and the Israeli government publicly bragging that they’ve barely gotten started.
    Are those antisemitic folks the ones he was talking about on college
    campuses? You really think they are supporting Trump?

    A good number are.
    You are so full of it, Tim. No wonder you disappear so often.

    [Thanks again for admitting you would not play Say Red with me because
    you knew I would win.]

    You aren't paying attention, and are again shooting your mouth off without evidence.

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  • From da pickle@21:1/5 to Tim Norfolk on Mon Nov 13 08:23:56 2023
    On 11/12/2023 8:45 PM, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Sunday, November 12, 2023 at 5:36:00 PM UTC-5, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/12/2023 1:14 PM, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Sunday, November 12, 2023 at 8:03:40 AM UTC-5, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/10/2023 11:24 PM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Friday, November 10, 2023 at 9:06:38 PM UTC-8, Mossingen wrote: >>>>>> .
    "William Bradley" wrote in message
    news:f6df9030-f286-49aa...@googlegroups.com...
    You got it backwards. Pretty much the only thing I see the left outraged >>>>>> about is right-wing in your face bigotry and the attempted imposition of >>>>>> obviously bogus and ridiculous religious doctrine on their lives (and I’m
    right there with them). Do you want a start of list of all the things and
    people right-wingers hate (most of which and whom have zero impact on their
    lives)? I’m fairly convinced that over 95% of the bigots spewing and >>>>>> promoting endless hatred toward transgender people have never even seen one
    (let alone interacted with one) in real life. Hating is just a sport to >>>>>> them. Take my advice and read the Fox News message boards. It is sickening.
    _____________


    Have you been paying attention to the Jew-hatred on college campuses? It's
    not conservatives. It's scary.

    I read a poll that 49% of QAnon supporters believe Jewish people are part of a conspiracy to take over the world. That’s like the wackiest 25% of Trump supporters, right? I don’t get it. I do get why people are angry about 10,000 innocent Gazan
    civilians being killed in a month, 4000 of whom were children, and the Israeli government publicly bragging that they’ve barely gotten started.
    Are those antisemitic folks the ones he was talking about on college
    campuses? You really think they are supporting Trump?

    A good number are.
    You are so full of it, Tim. No wonder you disappear so often.

    [Thanks again for admitting you would not play Say Red with me because
    you knew I would win.]

    You aren't paying attention, and are again shooting your mouth off without evidence.

    Another step aside?

    Explain again why Israel started this war.

    Also, explain again why it is all Trump's fault.

    Explain again, how wonderful things have been during the Biden
    administration.

    Explain again how the Biden family is being falsely accused of illegal activities.

    Explain about the "left" and how they will be the saviors of our country.

    Explain how you and Blab differ on any important point about anything.

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  • From Mossingen@21:1/5 to All on Mon Nov 13 12:56:10 2023
    "Tim Norfolk" wrote in message news:6dc3912d-23c7-40a0-a6be-3452a5fb05b8n@googlegroups.com...


    A good number are.

    ___________


    Shirley, you can't be serious. The support for Hamas and hatred for Jews on college campuses is coming from woke liberal young people to who hate Trump. You trolling?

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  • From Mossingen@21:1/5 to Mossingen on Mon Nov 13 12:54:20 2023
    "William Bradley" wrote in message news:55eaa4e9-03c8-4135-9169-346c2a60ef86n@googlegroups.com...

    On Friday, November 10, 2023 at 9:06:38 PM UTC-8, Mossingen wrote:
    .
    "William Bradley" wrote in message news:f6df9030-f286-49aa...@googlegroups.com...
    You got it backwards. Pretty much the only thing I see the left outraged about is right-wing in your face bigotry and the attempted imposition of obviously bogus and ridiculous religious doctrine on their lives (and I’m right there with them). Do you want a start of list of all the things and people right-wingers hate (most of which and whom have zero impact on
    their
    lives)? I’m fairly convinced that over 95% of the bigots spewing and promoting endless hatred toward transgender people have never even seen
    one
    (let alone interacted with one) in real life. Hating is just a sport to
    them. Take my advice and read the Fox News message boards. It is
    sickening.
    _____________


    Have you been paying attention to the Jew-hatred on college campuses? It's not conservatives. It's scary.

    I read a poll that 49% of QAnon supporters believe Jewish people are part of
    a conspiracy to take over the world. That’s like the wackiest 25% of Trump supporters, right? I don’t get it. I do get why people are angry about
    10,000 innocent Gazan civilians being killed in a month, 4000 of whom were children, and the Israeli government publicly bragging that they’ve barely gotten started.

    _______________


    10k killed of whom 4k are children are numbers from Al-Jazeera and the Palestinian Health Ministry. You'll excuse me if I don't believe it.
    Israel tells them weeks in advance where they are bombing and to stay away
    or get bombed. Sounds like you've been snookered by Hamas propaganda.

    And even if I believed your figures about QAnon supporters (which I don't, I have never met any conservatives among my friends or their friends who are "QAnon"; that's just more propaganda horseshit you believe for no reason,
    the vast majority of conservatives aren't kooks, they just want smaller government, less taxes, and for the U.S. to keep out of foreign wars/nation building in shithole countries that hate us), that doesn't explain all the liberal college kids fomenting support for Hamas and hatred of Jews.

    The college thing is disturbing. Those kids aren't QAnon kooks. They're
    your liberal kindred.

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  • From Mossingen@21:1/5 to All on Mon Nov 13 12:57:39 2023
    "Tim Norfolk" wrote in message news:22ac18fe-928a-4eff-b007-1497d80d2de0n@googlegroups.com...


    You aren't paying attention, and are again shooting your mouth off without evidence.

    ___________


    Let's see your evidence for your assertion that college students who are showing support for Hamas and hatred for Jews also support Donald Trump for president. What the hell are you smoking?

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to Tim Norfolk on Mon Nov 13 11:55:26 2023
    On Sunday, November 12, 2023 at 6:45:08 PM UTC-8, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Sunday, November 12, 2023 at 5:36:00 PM UTC-5, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/12/2023 1:14 PM, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Sunday, November 12, 2023 at 8:03:40 AM UTC-5, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/10/2023 11:24 PM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Friday, November 10, 2023 at 9:06:38 PM UTC-8, Mossingen wrote: >>>> .
    "William Bradley" wrote in message
    news:f6df9030-f286-49aa...@googlegroups.com...
    You got it backwards. Pretty much the only thing I see the left outraged
    about is right-wing in your face bigotry and the attempted imposition of
    obviously bogus and ridiculous religious doctrine on their lives (and I’m
    right there with them). Do you want a start of list of all the things and
    people right-wingers hate (most of which and whom have zero impact on their
    lives)? I’m fairly convinced that over 95% of the bigots spewing and
    promoting endless hatred toward transgender people have never even seen one
    (let alone interacted with one) in real life. Hating is just a sport to
    them. Take my advice and read the Fox News message boards. It is sickening.
    _____________


    Have you been paying attention to the Jew-hatred on college campuses? It's
    not conservatives. It's scary.

    I read a poll that 49% of QAnon supporters believe Jewish people are part of a conspiracy to take over the world. That’s like the wackiest 25% of Trump supporters, right? I don’t get it. I do get why people are angry about 10,000 innocent
    Gazan civilians being killed in a month, 4000 of whom were children, and the Israeli government publicly bragging that they’ve barely gotten started.
    Are those antisemitic folks the ones he was talking about on college
    campuses? You really think they are supporting Trump?

    A good number are.
    You are so full of it, Tim. No wonder you disappear so often.

    [Thanks again for admitting you would not play Say Red with me because
    you knew I would win.]
    .
    You aren't paying attention, and are again shooting your mouth off without evidence.
    .

    That's his only defense. It's his only defense. Otherwise, he has to embarrass himself again...

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to Mossingen on Mon Nov 13 12:02:28 2023
    On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 10:56:19 AM UTC-8, Mossingen wrote:
    "Tim Norfolk" wrote in message news:6dc3912d-23c7-40a0...@googlegroups.com...


    A good number are.

    ___________


    Shirley, you can't be serious.
    .

    Heh. He beat me to it... "You'll excuse me if I don't believe it."
    .
    .
    .

    The support for Hamas and hatred for Jews on college campuses is coming from woke liberal young people to who hate Trump.
    .

    "You'll excuse me if I don't believe it."

    So they were the one marching for Trump, singing, "Jews will not replace us..." You know, "There are good folks on both sides..."
    .

    You trolling?

    No, but you sure are....

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to Mossingen on Mon Nov 13 12:05:09 2023
    On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 10:57:48 AM UTC-8, Mossingen wrote:
    "Tim Norfolk" wrote in message
    news:22ac18fe-928a-4eff...@googlegroups.com...
    You aren't paying attention, and are again shooting your mouth off without evidence.
    ___________


    Let's see your evidence for your assertion that college students who are showing support for Hamas and hatred for Jews also support Donald Trump for president. What the hell are you smoking?
    .

    Let's see your evidence that they're "Liberal college students."
    (I don't smoke..)

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to da pickle on Mon Nov 13 11:56:26 2023
    On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 6:24:01 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/12/2023 8:45 PM, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Sunday, November 12, 2023 at 5:36:00 PM UTC-5, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/12/2023 1:14 PM, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Sunday, November 12, 2023 at 8:03:40 AM UTC-5, da pickle wrote: >>>> On 11/10/2023 11:24 PM, William Bradley wrote:
    On Friday, November 10, 2023 at 9:06:38 PM UTC-8, Mossingen wrote: >>>>>> .
    "William Bradley" wrote in message
    news:f6df9030-f286-49aa...@googlegroups.com...
    You got it backwards. Pretty much the only thing I see the left outraged
    about is right-wing in your face bigotry and the attempted imposition of
    obviously bogus and ridiculous religious doctrine on their lives (and I’m
    right there with them). Do you want a start of list of all the things and
    people right-wingers hate (most of which and whom have zero impact on their
    lives)? I’m fairly convinced that over 95% of the bigots spewing and
    promoting endless hatred toward transgender people have never even seen one
    (let alone interacted with one) in real life. Hating is just a sport to
    them. Take my advice and read the Fox News message boards. It is sickening.
    _____________


    Have you been paying attention to the Jew-hatred on college campuses? It's
    not conservatives. It's scary.

    I read a poll that 49% of QAnon supporters believe Jewish people are part of a conspiracy to take over the world. That’s like the wackiest 25% of Trump supporters, right? I don’t get it. I do get why people are angry about 10,000 innocent
    Gazan civilians being killed in a month, 4000 of whom were children, and the Israeli government publicly bragging that they’ve barely gotten started.
    Are those antisemitic folks the ones he was talking about on college >>>> campuses? You really think they are supporting Trump?

    A good number are.
    You are so full of it, Tim. No wonder you disappear so often.

    [Thanks again for admitting you would not play Say Red with me because
    you knew I would win.]

    You aren't paying attention, and are again shooting your mouth off without evidence.
    .

    Another step aside?

    Explain again why Israel started this war.

    See? Completely unrelated dodge...

    //NEXT//




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  • From da pickle@21:1/5 to Mossingen on Mon Nov 13 15:25:15 2023
    On 11/13/2023 12:54 PM, Mossingen wrote:
    "William Bradley"  wrote in message news:55eaa4e9-03c8-4135-9169-346c2a60ef86n@googlegroups.com...

    On Friday, November 10, 2023 at 9:06:38 PM UTC-8, Mossingen wrote:
    .
    "William Bradley" wrote in message
    news:f6df9030-f286-49aa...@googlegroups.com...
    You got it backwards. Pretty much the only thing I see the left outraged
    about is right-wing in your face bigotry and the attempted imposition of
    obviously bogus and ridiculous religious doctrine on their lives (and I’m >> right there with them). Do you want a start of list of all the things and
    people right-wingers hate (most of which and whom have zero impact on
    their
    lives)? I’m fairly convinced that over 95% of the bigots spewing and
    promoting endless hatred toward transgender people have never even
    seen one
    (let alone interacted with one) in real life. Hating is just a sport to
    them. Take my advice and read the Fox News message boards. It is
    sickening.
    _____________


    Have you been paying attention to the Jew-hatred on college campuses?
    It's
    not conservatives. It's scary.

    I read a poll that 49% of QAnon supporters believe Jewish people are
    part of a conspiracy to take over the world. That’s like the wackiest
    25% of Trump supporters, right? I don’t get it. I do get why people are angry about 10,000 innocent Gazan civilians being killed in a month,
    4000 of whom were children, and the Israeli government publicly bragging
    that they’ve barely gotten started.

    _______________


    10k killed of whom 4k are children are numbers from Al-Jazeera and the Palestinian Health Ministry.  You'll excuse me if I don't believe it.
    Israel tells them weeks in advance where they are bombing and to stay
    away or get bombed.  Sounds like you've been snookered by Hamas propaganda.

    And even if I believed your figures about QAnon supporters (which I
    don't, I have never met any conservatives among my friends or their
    friends who are "QAnon"; that's just more propaganda horseshit you
    believe for no reason, the vast majority of conservatives aren't kooks,
    they just want smaller government, less taxes, and for the U.S. to keep
    out of foreign wars/nation building in shithole countries that hate us),
    that doesn't explain all the liberal college kids fomenting support for
    Hamas and hatred of Jews.

    The college thing is disturbing.  Those kids aren't QAnon kooks.
    They're your liberal kindred.

    It is harder and harder not to believe that Jerry is just a sock puppet.

    Even Blab is not anti-semitic ... at least I do not think so.

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to da pickle on Mon Nov 13 16:25:34 2023
    On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 1:25:19 PM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/13/2023 12:54 PM, Mossingen wrote:
    "William Bradley" wrote in message news:55eaa4e9-03c8-4135...@googlegroups.com...

    On Friday, November 10, 2023 at 9:06:38 PM UTC-8, Mossingen wrote:
    .
    "William Bradley" wrote in message
    news:f6df9030-f286-49aa...@googlegroups.com...
    You got it backwards. Pretty much the only thing I see the left outraged >> about is right-wing in your face bigotry and the attempted imposition of >> obviously bogus and ridiculous religious doctrine on their lives (and I’m
    right there with them). Do you want a start of list of all the things and >> people right-wingers hate (most of which and whom have zero impact on
    their
    lives)? I’m fairly convinced that over 95% of the bigots spewing and
    promoting endless hatred toward transgender people have never even
    seen one
    (let alone interacted with one) in real life. Hating is just a sport to >> them. Take my advice and read the Fox News message boards. It is
    sickening.
    _____________


    Have you been paying attention to the Jew-hatred on college campuses?
    It's
    not conservatives. It's scary.

    I read a poll that 49% of QAnon supporters believe Jewish people are
    part of a conspiracy to take over the world. That’s like the wackiest 25% of Trump supporters, right? I don’t get it. I do get why people are angry about 10,000 innocent Gazan civilians being killed in a month,
    4000 of whom were children, and the Israeli government publicly bragging that they’ve barely gotten started.

    _______________


    10k killed of whom 4k are children are numbers from Al-Jazeera and the Palestinian Health Ministry. You'll excuse me if I don't believe it. Israel tells them weeks in advance where they are bombing and to stay
    away or get bombed. Sounds like you've been snookered by Hamas propaganda.

    And even if I believed your figures about QAnon supporters (which I
    don't, I have never met any conservatives among my friends or their friends who are "QAnon"; that's just more propaganda horseshit you
    believe for no reason, the vast majority of conservatives aren't kooks, they just want smaller government, less taxes, and for the U.S. to keep out of foreign wars/nation building in shithole countries that hate us), that doesn't explain all the liberal college kids fomenting support for Hamas and hatred of Jews.

    The college thing is disturbing. Those kids aren't QAnon kooks.
    They're your liberal kindred.
    .

    It is harder and harder not to believe that Jerry is just a sock puppet.
    .

    Aww! Gee... I embarrassed you, yet again.. So fucking sorry...

    LOL!
    .
    .
    .
    .
    .
    .


    Even Blab is not anti-semitic ... at least I do not think so.

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  • From Tim Norfolk@21:1/5 to Mossingen on Mon Nov 13 17:06:34 2023
    On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 1:57:48 PM UTC-5, Mossingen wrote:
    "Tim Norfolk" wrote in message
    news:22ac18fe-928a-4eff...@googlegroups.com...
    You aren't paying attention, and are again shooting your mouth off without evidence.
    ___________


    Let's see your evidence for your assertion that college students who are showing support for Hamas and hatred for Jews also support Donald Trump for president. What the hell are you smoking?

    Nice absolutism. Prove that I said that all of the college protestors support Trump.

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  • From BillB@21:1/5 to Mossingen on Mon Nov 13 19:22:00 2023
    On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 10:54:30 AM UTC-8, Mossingen wrote:
    "William Bradley" wrote in message news:55eaa4e9-03c8-4135...@googlegroups.com...
    On Friday, November 10, 2023 at 9:06:38 PM UTC-8, Mossingen wrote:
    .
    "William Bradley" wrote in message news:f6df9030-f286-49aa...@googlegroups.com...
    You got it backwards. Pretty much the only thing I see the left outraged about is right-wing in your face bigotry and the attempted imposition of obviously bogus and ridiculous religious doctrine on their lives (and I’m
    right there with them). Do you want a start of list of all the things and people right-wingers hate (most of which and whom have zero impact on their
    lives)? I’m fairly convinced that over 95% of the bigots spewing and promoting endless hatred toward transgender people have never even seen one
    (let alone interacted with one) in real life. Hating is just a sport to them. Take my advice and read the Fox News message boards. It is sickening.
    _____________


    Have you been paying attention to the Jew-hatred on college campuses? It's not conservatives. It's scary.

    I read a poll that 49% of QAnon supporters believe Jewish people are part of a conspiracy to take over the world. That’s like the wackiest 25% of Trump supporters, right? I don’t get it. I do get why people are angry about 10,000 innocent Gazan civilians being killed in a month, 4000 of whom were children, and the Israeli government publicly bragging that they’ve barely gotten started.
    _______________


    10k killed of whom 4k are children are numbers from Al-Jazeera and the Palestinian Health Ministry. You'll excuse me if I don't believe it.

    I saw it reported on the Wall Street Journal the other day and the number has been endorsed by the UN and numerous other news outlets. I haven’t heard Israel deny it, and like I said, they keep bragging that they’re just getting started. When I see
    the photos of the seemingly endless destruction of obviously residential neighbourhoods I think I would have taken the over. But I realize it is a VERY inconvenient number for those who blindly and unconditionally support Israel’s war crimes, so you
    best just go with your feeeeewings. Much more comfortable that way.


    Israel tells them weeks in advance where they are bombing and to stay away or get bombed. Sounds like you've been snookered by Hamas propaganda.


    Check the per capita income in Gaza. Most people have no money and nowhere to go. There are children, elderly, infirm, and seriously ill. And don’t forget that Israel cut off food, water, medicine and fuel to Gaza from Day 1. Ya, it’s not quite as
    simple as you make it out to be. I have seen the footage of residential areas being reduced to rubble and there are still LOTS of people there struggling to dig out the children and the babies. Oh ya, Hamas is also reportedly blocking the exit of
    civilians. It’s not a good human rights situation.

    And even if I believed your figures about QAnon supporters (which I don't, I have never met any conservatives among my friends or their friends who are "QAnon"; that's just more propaganda horseshit you believe for no reason, the vast majority of conservatives aren't kooks, they just want smaller government, less taxes, and for the U.S. to keep out of foreign wars/nation building in shithole countries that hate us),

    Well, I just googled “what percentage of Trump voters support QAnon, and every scientific poll I can find says I was pretty much bang-on. Give it a look and tell me what you find. And again, it might be more comfortable for you if you go with your
    feeeewings instead of the best data available.



    that doesn't explain all the
    liberal college kids fomenting support for Hamas and hatred of Jews.

    The college thing is disturbing. Those kids aren't QAnon kooks. They're
    your liberal kindred.

    You’re doing what Fox News does, namely making no attempt to quantify what percentage of those college protesters hate Jewish people and love Hamas and/or are committing what could be called hate crimes, and what I believe are the vast majority who are
    protesting Israel’s response to Hamas’ war crimes. After all, isn’t it natural to hold a modern, wealthy, technologically advanced county to a higher standard of human rights that you expect from a ragtag bunch of 6th century throwback terrorists?

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  • From da pickle@21:1/5 to BillB on Tue Nov 14 06:57:03 2023
    On 11/13/2023 9:22 PM, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 10:54:30 AM UTC-8, Mossingen wrote:
    "William Bradley" wrote in message
    news:55eaa4e9-03c8-4135...@googlegroups.com...
    On Friday, November 10, 2023 at 9:06:38 PM UTC-8, Mossingen wrote:
    .
    "William Bradley" wrote in message
    news:f6df9030-f286-49aa...@googlegroups.com...
    You got it backwards. Pretty much the only thing I see the left outraged >>> about is right-wing in your face bigotry and the attempted imposition of >>> obviously bogus and ridiculous religious doctrine on their lives (and I’m >>> right there with them). Do you want a start of list of all the things and >>> people right-wingers hate (most of which and whom have zero impact on
    their
    lives)? I’m fairly convinced that over 95% of the bigots spewing and
    promoting endless hatred toward transgender people have never even seen
    one
    (let alone interacted with one) in real life. Hating is just a sport to
    them. Take my advice and read the Fox News message boards. It is
    sickening.
    _____________


    Have you been paying attention to the Jew-hatred on college campuses? It's >>> not conservatives. It's scary.

    I read a poll that 49% of QAnon supporters believe Jewish people are part of >> a conspiracy to take over the world. That’s like the wackiest 25% of Trump >> supporters, right? I don’t get it. I do get why people are angry about
    10,000 innocent Gazan civilians being killed in a month, 4000 of whom were >> children, and the Israeli government publicly bragging that they’ve barely >> gotten started.
    _______________


    10k killed of whom 4k are children are numbers from Al-Jazeera and the
    Palestinian Health Ministry. You'll excuse me if I don't believe it.

    I saw it reported on the Wall Street Journal the other day and the number has been endorsed by the UN and numerous other news outlets. I haven’t heard Israel deny it, and like I said, they keep bragging that they’re just getting started. When I see
    the photos of the seemingly endless destruction of obviously residential neighbourhoods I think I would have taken the over. But I realize it is a VERY inconvenient number for those who blindly and unconditionally support Israel’s war crimes, so you
    best just go with your feeeeewings. Much more comfortable that way.


    Israel tells them weeks in advance where they are bombing and to stay away >> or get bombed. Sounds like you've been snookered by Hamas propaganda.


    Check the per capita income in Gaza. Most people have no money and nowhere to go. There are children, elderly, infirm, and seriously ill. And don’t forget that Israel cut off food, water, medicine and fuel to Gaza from Day 1. Ya, it’s not quite as
    simple as you make it out to be. I have seen the footage of residential areas being reduced to rubble and there are still LOTS of people there struggling to dig out the children and the babies. Oh ya, Hamas is also reportedly blocking the exit of
    civilians. It’s not a good human rights situation.

    And even if I believed your figures about QAnon supporters (which I don't, I >> have never met any conservatives among my friends or their friends who are >> "QAnon"; that's just more propaganda horseshit you believe for no reason,
    the vast majority of conservatives aren't kooks, they just want smaller
    government, less taxes, and for the U.S. to keep out of foreign wars/nation >> building in shithole countries that hate us),

    Well, I just googled “what percentage of Trump voters support QAnon, and every scientific poll I can find says I was pretty much bang-on. Give it a look and tell me what you find. And again, it might be more comfortable for you if you go with your
    feeeewings instead of the best data available.



    >that doesn't explain all the
    liberal college kids fomenting support for Hamas and hatred of Jews.

    The college thing is disturbing. Those kids aren't QAnon kooks. They're
    your liberal kindred.

    You’re doing what Fox News does, namely making no attempt to quantify what percentage of those college protesters hate Jewish people and love Hamas and/or are committing what could be called hate crimes, and what I believe are the vast majority who
    are protesting Israel’s response to Hamas’ war crimes. After all, isn’t it natural to hold a modern, wealthy, technologically advanced county to a higher standard of human rights that you expect from a ragtag bunch of 6th century throwback
    terrorists?

    I was wrong in my assumption that Blab was not anti-semitic.

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  • From da pickle@21:1/5 to Tim Norfolk on Tue Nov 14 07:46:48 2023
    On 11/13/2023 7:06 PM, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 1:57:48 PM UTC-5, Mossingen wrote:
    "Tim Norfolk" wrote in message
    news:22ac18fe-928a-4eff...@googlegroups.com...
    You aren't paying attention, and are again shooting your mouth off without >> evidence.
    ___________


    Let's see your evidence for your assertion that college students who are
    showing support for Hamas and hatred for Jews also support Donald Trump for >> president. What the hell are you smoking?

    Nice absolutism. Prove that I said that all of the college protestors support Trump.

    Almost a Jerry like dodge.

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  • From BillB@21:1/5 to da pickle on Tue Nov 14 08:14:10 2023
    On Tuesday, November 14, 2023 at 4:57:05 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/13/2023 9:22 PM, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 10:54:30 AM UTC-8, Mossingen wrote:
    "William Bradley" wrote in message
    news:55eaa4e9-03c8-4135...@googlegroups.com...
    On Friday, November 10, 2023 at 9:06:38 PM UTC-8, Mossingen wrote:
    .
    "William Bradley" wrote in message
    news:f6df9030-f286-49aa...@googlegroups.com...
    You got it backwards. Pretty much the only thing I see the left outraged >>> about is right-wing in your face bigotry and the attempted imposition of >>> obviously bogus and ridiculous religious doctrine on their lives (and I’m
    right there with them). Do you want a start of list of all the things and
    people right-wingers hate (most of which and whom have zero impact on >>> their
    lives)? I’m fairly convinced that over 95% of the bigots spewing and >>> promoting endless hatred toward transgender people have never even seen >>> one
    (let alone interacted with one) in real life. Hating is just a sport to >>> them. Take my advice and read the Fox News message boards. It is
    sickening.
    _____________


    Have you been paying attention to the Jew-hatred on college campuses? It's
    not conservatives. It's scary.

    I read a poll that 49% of QAnon supporters believe Jewish people are part of
    a conspiracy to take over the world. That’s like the wackiest 25% of Trump
    supporters, right? I don’t get it. I do get why people are angry about >> 10,000 innocent Gazan civilians being killed in a month, 4000 of whom were
    children, and the Israeli government publicly bragging that they’ve barely
    gotten started.
    _______________


    10k killed of whom 4k are children are numbers from Al-Jazeera and the
    Palestinian Health Ministry. You'll excuse me if I don't believe it.

    I saw it reported on the Wall Street Journal the other day and the number has been endorsed by the UN and numerous other news outlets. I haven’t heard Israel deny it, and like I said, they keep bragging that they’re just getting started. When I
    see the photos of the seemingly endless destruction of obviously residential neighbourhoods I think I would have taken the over. But I realize it is a VERY inconvenient number for those who blindly and unconditionally support Israel’s war crimes, so
    you best just go with your feeeeewings. Much more comfortable that way.


    Israel tells them weeks in advance where they are bombing and to stay away
    or get bombed. Sounds like you've been snookered by Hamas propaganda.


    Check the per capita income in Gaza. Most people have no money and nowhere to go. There are children, elderly, infirm, and seriously ill. And don’t forget that Israel cut off food, water, medicine and fuel to Gaza from Day 1. Ya, it’s not quite
    as simple as you make it out to be. I have seen the footage of residential areas being reduced to rubble and there are still LOTS of people there struggling to dig out the children and the babies. Oh ya, Hamas is also reportedly blocking the exit of
    civilians. It’s not a good human rights situation.

    And even if I believed your figures about QAnon supporters (which I don't, I
    have never met any conservatives among my friends or their friends who are
    "QAnon"; that's just more propaganda horseshit you believe for no reason, >> the vast majority of conservatives aren't kooks, they just want smaller >> government, less taxes, and for the U.S. to keep out of foreign wars/nation
    building in shithole countries that hate us),

    Well, I just googled “what percentage of Trump voters support QAnon, and every scientific poll I can find says I was pretty much bang-on. Give it a look and tell me what you find. And again, it might be more comfortable for you if you go with your
    feeeewings instead of the best data available.



    that doesn't explain all the
    liberal college kids fomenting support for Hamas and hatred of Jews.

    The college thing is disturbing. Those kids aren't QAnon kooks. They're >> your liberal kindred.

    You’re doing what Fox News does, namely making no attempt to quantify what percentage of those college protesters hate Jewish people and love Hamas and/or are committing what could be called hate crimes, and what I believe are the vast majority who
    are protesting Israel’s response to Hamas’ war crimes. After all, isn’t it natural to hold a modern, wealthy, technologically advanced county to a higher standard of human rights that you expect from a ragtag bunch of 6th century throwback
    terrorists?
    I was wrong in my assumption that Blab was not anti-semitic.

    Another word you don’t understand.

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  • From Mossingen@21:1/5 to Mossingen on Tue Nov 14 14:15:58 2023
    "BillB" wrote in message news:2f6f2617-b0e7-415c-b2e6-58867d8aa00dn@googlegroups.com...

    On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 10:54:30 AM UTC-8, Mossingen wrote:
    "William Bradley" wrote in message news:55eaa4e9-03c8-4135...@googlegroups.com...
    On Friday, November 10, 2023 at 9:06:38 PM UTC-8, Mossingen wrote:
    .
    "William Bradley" wrote in message news:f6df9030-f286-49aa...@googlegroups.com...
    You got it backwards. Pretty much the only thing I see the left outraged about is right-wing in your face bigotry and the attempted imposition of obviously bogus and ridiculous religious doctrine on their lives (and I’m right there with them). Do you want a start of list of all the things
    and
    people right-wingers hate (most of which and whom have zero impact on
    their
    lives)? I’m fairly convinced that over 95% of the bigots spewing and promoting endless hatred toward transgender people have never even seen
    one
    (let alone interacted with one) in real life. Hating is just a sport to them. Take my advice and read the Fox News message boards. It is
    sickening.
    _____________


    Have you been paying attention to the Jew-hatred on college campuses?
    It's
    not conservatives. It's scary.

    I read a poll that 49% of QAnon supporters believe Jewish people are part
    of
    a conspiracy to take over the world. That’s like the wackiest 25% of Trump supporters, right? I don’t get it. I do get why people are angry about 10,000 innocent Gazan civilians being killed in a month, 4000 of whom were children, and the Israeli government publicly bragging that they’ve barely gotten started.
    _______________


    10k killed of whom 4k are children are numbers from Al-Jazeera and the Palestinian Health Ministry. You'll excuse me if I don't believe it.

    I saw it reported on the Wall Street Journal the other day and the number
    has been endorsed by the UN and numerous other news outlets. I haven’t heard Israel deny it, and like I said, they keep bragging that they’re just
    getting started. When I see the photos of the seemingly endless destruction
    of obviously residential neighbourhoods I think I would have taken the over. But I realize it is a VERY inconvenient number for those who blindly and unconditionally support Israel’s war crimes, so you best just go with your feeeeewings. Much more comfortable that way.


    Israel tells them weeks in advance where they are bombing and to stay away
    or get bombed. Sounds like you've been snookered by Hamas propaganda.


    Check the per capita income in Gaza. Most people have no money and nowhere
    to go. There are children, elderly, infirm, and seriously ill. And don’t forget that Israel cut off food, water, medicine and fuel to Gaza from Day
    1. Ya, it’s not quite as simple as you make it out to be. I have seen the footage of residential areas being reduced to rubble and there are still
    LOTS of people there struggling to dig out the children and the babies. Oh
    ya, Hamas is also reportedly blocking the exit of civilians. It’s not a good human rights situation.

    And even if I believed your figures about QAnon supporters (which I don't,
    I
    have never met any conservatives among my friends or their friends who are "QAnon"; that's just more propaganda horseshit you believe for no reason,
    the vast majority of conservatives aren't kooks, they just want smaller government, less taxes, and for the U.S. to keep out of foreign
    wars/nation
    building in shithole countries that hate us),

    Well, I just googled “what percentage of Trump voters support QAnon, and every scientific poll I can find says I was pretty much bang-on. Give it a
    look and tell me what you find. And again, it might be more comfortable for you if you go with your feeeewings instead of the best data available.



    that doesn't explain all the
    liberal college kids fomenting support for Hamas and hatred of Jews.

    The college thing is disturbing. Those kids aren't QAnon kooks. They're
    your liberal kindred.

    You’re doing what Fox News does, namely making no attempt to quantify what percentage of those college protesters hate Jewish people and love Hamas
    and/or are committing what could be called hate crimes, and what I believe
    are the vast majority who are protesting Israel’s response to Hamas’ war crimes. After all, isn’t it natural to hold a modern, wealthy, technologically advanced county to a higher standard of human rights that
    you expect from a ragtag bunch of 6th century throwback terrorists?


    ____________________


    You and Tim Norfolk have this weird perspective that conservative college
    kids (is there even such a thing?) are the ones supporting Hamas and tearing down Missing posters. I guess if you want to believe that, you can.

    I don't have a dog in this fight at all. I don't know any Palestinians, nor
    am I a Muslim, nor do I know any Jews, nor am I Jewish (I never even met a
    Jew until I got to law school). I can see how it is an insoluble situation.

    Leaving aside the religious aspects where both sides believe that God
    himself granted them the land at issue (which itself makes the situation insoluble), the 10/07 attack shows why there will never be peace there.
    Hamas is clearly a savage terrorist group. Comparisons to Nazis are cringe, but I think it's justified here. They present a problem much like the Nazis did, of an enemy unconstrained by any normal sense of morality and no limits
    on the depths of their depravity.

    So, they glide in and kill 1,400 Israelis. Israel has launched a savage response to this. Let's just assume that Israel's response is justified. That's the big debate at the moment, but let's just assume they are fully righteous in bombing Gaza and killing Palestinians in response.

    In reality, we see Palestinian parents pulling the bodies of their dead children from rubble, and their friends, family, etc. This righteous attack has engendered hundreds if not thousands of Palestinians who were not paragliders on 10/07, but who now are enraged with seething hate to kill as many Jews as they can. It is difficult to blame them even if I believe
    Israel is justified.

    So, the Palestinians will kill Jews again. Israel will respond again.
    There is a vicious cycle of hate that has been going on there for decades if not centuries and I do not see any solution at all. It is very sad for everyone involved.

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  • From BillB@21:1/5 to Mossingen on Tue Nov 14 12:56:57 2023
    On Tuesday, November 14, 2023 at 12:16:09 PM UTC-8, Mossingen wrote:
    "BillB" wrote in message
    news:2f6f2617-b0e7-415c...@googlegroups.com...
    On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 10:54:30 AM UTC-8, Mossingen wrote:
    "William Bradley" wrote in message news:55eaa4e9-03c8-4135...@googlegroups.com...
    On Friday, November 10, 2023 at 9:06:38 PM UTC-8, Mossingen wrote:
    .
    "William Bradley" wrote in message news:f6df9030-f286-49aa...@googlegroups.com...
    You got it backwards. Pretty much the only thing I see the left outraged about is right-wing in your face bigotry and the attempted imposition of obviously bogus and ridiculous religious doctrine on their lives (and I’m
    right there with them). Do you want a start of list of all the things and
    people right-wingers hate (most of which and whom have zero impact on their
    lives)? I’m fairly convinced that over 95% of the bigots spewing and promoting endless hatred toward transgender people have never even seen one
    (let alone interacted with one) in real life. Hating is just a sport to them. Take my advice and read the Fox News message boards. It is sickening.
    _____________


    Have you been paying attention to the Jew-hatred on college campuses? It's
    not conservatives. It's scary.

    I read a poll that 49% of QAnon supporters believe Jewish people are part of
    a conspiracy to take over the world. That’s like the wackiest 25% of Trump
    supporters, right? I don’t get it. I do get why people are angry about 10,000 innocent Gazan civilians being killed in a month, 4000 of whom were children, and the Israeli government publicly bragging that they’ve barely
    gotten started.
    _______________


    10k killed of whom 4k are children are numbers from Al-Jazeera and the Palestinian Health Ministry. You'll excuse me if I don't believe it.

    I saw it reported on the Wall Street Journal the other day and the number has been endorsed by the UN and numerous other news outlets. I haven’t heard
    Israel deny it, and like I said, they keep bragging that they’re just getting started. When I see the photos of the seemingly endless destruction of obviously residential neighbourhoods I think I would have taken the over. But I realize it is a VERY inconvenient number for those who blindly and unconditionally support Israel’s war crimes, so you best just go with your feeeeewings. Much more comfortable that way.


    Israel tells them weeks in advance where they are bombing and to stay away or get bombed. Sounds like you've been snookered by Hamas propaganda.


    Check the per capita income in Gaza. Most people have no money and nowhere to go. There are children, elderly, infirm, and seriously ill. And don’t forget that Israel cut off food, water, medicine and fuel to Gaza from Day 1. Ya, it’s not quite as simple as you make it out to be. I have seen the footage of residential areas being reduced to rubble and there are still LOTS of people there struggling to dig out the children and the babies. Oh ya, Hamas is also reportedly blocking the exit of civilians. It’s not a good
    human rights situation.

    And even if I believed your figures about QAnon supporters (which I don't, I
    have never met any conservatives among my friends or their friends who are "QAnon"; that's just more propaganda horseshit you believe for no reason, the vast majority of conservatives aren't kooks, they just want smaller government, less taxes, and for the U.S. to keep out of foreign wars/nation
    building in shithole countries that hate us),

    Well, I just googled “what percentage of Trump voters support QAnon, and every scientific poll I can find says I was pretty much bang-on. Give it a look and tell me what you find. And again, it might be more comfortable for you if you go with your feeeewings instead of the best data available.



    that doesn't explain all the
    liberal college kids fomenting support for Hamas and hatred of Jews.

    The college thing is disturbing. Those kids aren't QAnon kooks. They're your liberal kindred.

    You’re doing what Fox News does, namely making no attempt to quantify what percentage of those college protesters hate Jewish people and love Hamas and/or are committing what could be called hate crimes, and what I believe are the vast majority who are protesting Israel’s response to Hamas’ war crimes. After all, isn’t it natural to hold a modern, wealthy, technologically advanced county to a higher standard of human rights that you expect from a ragtag bunch of 6th century throwback terrorists? ____________________


    You and Tim Norfolk have this weird perspective that conservative college kids (is there even such a thing?) are the ones supporting Hamas and tearing down Missing posters. I guess if you want to believe that, you can.

    I didn’t say any such thing. My point was that those people represent a tiny minority of the college students protesting Israel’s war crimes, yet they are all lumped together when people say “look at all the anti-Jewish protests on college campuses.


    I don't have a dog in this fight at all. I don't know any Palestinians, nor am I a Muslim, nor do I know any Jews, nor am I Jewish (I never even met a Jew until I got to law school). I can see how it is an insoluble situation.

    Leaving aside the religious aspects where both sides believe that God himself granted them the land at issue (which itself makes the situation insoluble), the 10/07 attack shows why there will never be peace there. Hamas is clearly a savage terrorist group. Comparisons to Nazis are cringe, but I think it's justified here. They present a problem much like the Nazis did, of an enemy unconstrained by any normal sense of morality and no limits on the depths of their depravity.

    So, they glide in and kill 1,400 Israelis. Israel has launched a savage response to this. Let's just assume that Israel's response is justified. That's the big debate at the moment, but let's just assume they are fully righteous in bombing Gaza and killing Palestinians in response.

    We can’t assume that because it’s simply not true. They are giving the finger to International Humanitarian Law and the laws of armed conflict. They are killing thousands of innocent people (about 40% of which are children), to get at a handful of
    Hamas fighters. That does not meet the required standard of proportionality. It is collective punishment. Documents have shown that Hamas planned the Oct7 attack for years and Israel never got a whiff of it. Yet a couple of weeks later they claim to know
    where Hamas fighters are in a maze of underground tunnels? That does not pass the smell test. They are bombing Gaza indiscriminately and have expressed every intention of continuing to do so.

    In reality, we see Palestinian parents pulling the bodies of their dead children from rubble, and their friends, family, etc. This righteous attack has engendered hundreds if not thousands of Palestinians who were not paragliders on 10/07, but who now are enraged with seething hate to kill as many Jews as they can. It is difficult to blame them even if I believe Israel is justified.

    So, the Palestinians will kill Jews again. Israel will respond again.
    There is a vicious cycle of hate that has been going on there for decades if not centuries and I do not see any solution at all. It is very sad for everyone involved.

    I am not saying I see a solution either, but blatant war crimes and the slaughter of tens of thousands of innocent civilians sure as hell isn’t it. These actions are entirely self-defeating and ill-conceived. They have guaranteed generations of
    terrorist attacks (or worse) with the conduct of this war. They might not be called “Hamas” (which Israel seems obsessed with), but they will be at least as deadly and persistent, and probably much more so.

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  • From da pickle@21:1/5 to BillB on Tue Nov 14 15:58:40 2023
    On 11/14/2023 2:56 PM, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, November 14, 2023 at 12:16:09 PM UTC-8, Mossingen wrote:
    "BillB" wrote in message
    news:2f6f2617-b0e7-415c...@googlegroups.com...
    On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 10:54:30 AM UTC-8, Mossingen wrote:
    "William Bradley" wrote in message
    news:55eaa4e9-03c8-4135...@googlegroups.com...
    On Friday, November 10, 2023 at 9:06:38 PM UTC-8, Mossingen wrote:
    .
    "William Bradley" wrote in message
    news:f6df9030-f286-49aa...@googlegroups.com...
    You got it backwards. Pretty much the only thing I see the left outraged >>>> about is right-wing in your face bigotry and the attempted imposition of >>>> obviously bogus and ridiculous religious doctrine on their lives (and I’m
    right there with them). Do you want a start of list of all the things
    and
    people right-wingers hate (most of which and whom have zero impact on
    their
    lives)? I’m fairly convinced that over 95% of the bigots spewing and >>>> promoting endless hatred toward transgender people have never even seen >>>> one
    (let alone interacted with one) in real life. Hating is just a sport to >>>> them. Take my advice and read the Fox News message boards. It is
    sickening.
    _____________


    Have you been paying attention to the Jew-hatred on college campuses?
    It's
    not conservatives. It's scary.

    I read a poll that 49% of QAnon supporters believe Jewish people are part >>> of
    a conspiracy to take over the world. That’s like the wackiest 25% of Trump
    supporters, right? I don’t get it. I do get why people are angry about >>> 10,000 innocent Gazan civilians being killed in a month, 4000 of whom were >>> children, and the Israeli government publicly bragging that they’ve barely
    gotten started.
    _______________


    10k killed of whom 4k are children are numbers from Al-Jazeera and the
    Palestinian Health Ministry. You'll excuse me if I don't believe it.

    I saw it reported on the Wall Street Journal the other day and the number
    has been endorsed by the UN and numerous other news outlets. I haven’t heard
    Israel deny it, and like I said, they keep bragging that they’re just
    getting started. When I see the photos of the seemingly endless destruction >> of obviously residential neighbourhoods I think I would have taken the over. >> But I realize it is a VERY inconvenient number for those who blindly and
    unconditionally support Israel’s war crimes, so you best just go with your >> feeeeewings. Much more comfortable that way.


    Israel tells them weeks in advance where they are bombing and to stay away >>> or get bombed. Sounds like you've been snookered by Hamas propaganda.


    Check the per capita income in Gaza. Most people have no money and nowhere >> to go. There are children, elderly, infirm, and seriously ill. And don’t >> forget that Israel cut off food, water, medicine and fuel to Gaza from Day >> 1. Ya, it’s not quite as simple as you make it out to be. I have seen the >> footage of residential areas being reduced to rubble and there are still
    LOTS of people there struggling to dig out the children and the babies. Oh >> ya, Hamas is also reportedly blocking the exit of civilians. It’s not a good
    human rights situation.

    And even if I believed your figures about QAnon supporters (which I don't, >>> I
    have never met any conservatives among my friends or their friends who are >>> "QAnon"; that's just more propaganda horseshit you believe for no reason, >>> the vast majority of conservatives aren't kooks, they just want smaller
    government, less taxes, and for the U.S. to keep out of foreign
    wars/nation
    building in shithole countries that hate us),

    Well, I just googled “what percentage of Trump voters support QAnon, and >> every scientific poll I can find says I was pretty much bang-on. Give it a >> look and tell me what you find. And again, it might be more comfortable for >> you if you go with your feeeewings instead of the best data available.



    that doesn't explain all the
    liberal college kids fomenting support for Hamas and hatred of Jews.

    The college thing is disturbing. Those kids aren't QAnon kooks. They're
    your liberal kindred.

    You’re doing what Fox News does, namely making no attempt to quantify what >> percentage of those college protesters hate Jewish people and love Hamas
    and/or are committing what could be called hate crimes, and what I believe >> are the vast majority who are protesting Israel’s response to Hamas’ war >> crimes. After all, isn’t it natural to hold a modern, wealthy,
    technologically advanced county to a higher standard of human rights that
    you expect from a ragtag bunch of 6th century throwback terrorists?
    ____________________


    You and Tim Norfolk have this weird perspective that conservative college
    kids (is there even such a thing?) are the ones supporting Hamas and tearing >> down Missing posters. I guess if you want to believe that, you can.

    I didn’t say any such thing. My point was that those people represent a tiny minority of the college students protesting Israel’s war crimes, yet they are all lumped together when people say “look at all the anti-Jewish protests on college
    campuses.”

    I don't have a dog in this fight at all. I don't know any Palestinians, nor >> am I a Muslim, nor do I know any Jews, nor am I Jewish (I never even met a >> Jew until I got to law school). I can see how it is an insoluble situation. >>
    Leaving aside the religious aspects where both sides believe that God
    himself granted them the land at issue (which itself makes the situation
    insoluble), the 10/07 attack shows why there will never be peace there.
    Hamas is clearly a savage terrorist group. Comparisons to Nazis are cringe, >> but I think it's justified here. They present a problem much like the Nazis >> did, of an enemy unconstrained by any normal sense of morality and no limits >> on the depths of their depravity.

    So, they glide in and kill 1,400 Israelis. Israel has launched a savage
    response to this. Let's just assume that Israel's response is justified.
    That's the big debate at the moment, but let's just assume they are fully
    righteous in bombing Gaza and killing Palestinians in response.

    We can’t assume that because it’s simply not true. They are giving the finger to International Humanitarian Law and the laws of armed conflict. They are killing thousands of innocent people (about 40% of which are children), to get at a handful of
    Hamas fighters. That does not meet the required standard of proportionality. It is collective punishment. Documents have shown that Hamas planned the Oct7 attack for years and Israel never got a whiff of it. Yet a couple of weeks later they claim to know
    where Hamas fighters are in a maze of underground tunnels? That does not pass the smell test. They are bombing Gaza indiscriminately and have expressed every intention of continuing to do so.

    In reality, we see Palestinian parents pulling the bodies of their dead
    children from rubble, and their friends, family, etc. This righteous attack >> has engendered hundreds if not thousands of Palestinians who were not
    paragliders on 10/07, but who now are enraged with seething hate to kill as >> many Jews as they can. It is difficult to blame them even if I believe
    Israel is justified.

    So, the Palestinians will kill Jews again. Israel will respond again.
    There is a vicious cycle of hate that has been going on there for decades if >> not centuries and I do not see any solution at all. It is very sad for
    everyone involved.

    I am not saying I see a solution either, but blatant war crimes and the slaughter of tens of thousands of innocent civilians sure as hell isn’t it. These actions are entirely self-defeating and ill-conceived. They have guaranteed generations of
    terrorist attacks (or worse) with the conduct of this war. They might not be called “Hamas” (which Israel seems obsessed with), but they will be at least as deadly and persistent, and probably much more so.

    Bullshit

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  • From da pickle@21:1/5 to BillB on Tue Nov 14 15:59:07 2023
    On 11/14/2023 10:14 AM, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, November 14, 2023 at 4:57:05 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/13/2023 9:22 PM, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 10:54:30 AM UTC-8, Mossingen wrote:
    "William Bradley" wrote in message
    news:55eaa4e9-03c8-4135...@googlegroups.com...
    On Friday, November 10, 2023 at 9:06:38 PM UTC-8, Mossingen wrote:
    .
    "William Bradley" wrote in message
    news:f6df9030-f286-49aa...@googlegroups.com...
    You got it backwards. Pretty much the only thing I see the left outraged >>>>> about is right-wing in your face bigotry and the attempted imposition of >>>>> obviously bogus and ridiculous religious doctrine on their lives (and I’m
    right there with them). Do you want a start of list of all the things and >>>>> people right-wingers hate (most of which and whom have zero impact on >>>>> their
    lives)? I’m fairly convinced that over 95% of the bigots spewing and >>>>> promoting endless hatred toward transgender people have never even seen >>>>> one
    (let alone interacted with one) in real life. Hating is just a sport to >>>>> them. Take my advice and read the Fox News message boards. It is
    sickening.
    _____________


    Have you been paying attention to the Jew-hatred on college campuses? It's
    not conservatives. It's scary.

    I read a poll that 49% of QAnon supporters believe Jewish people are part of
    a conspiracy to take over the world. That’s like the wackiest 25% of Trump
    supporters, right? I don’t get it. I do get why people are angry about >>>> 10,000 innocent Gazan civilians being killed in a month, 4000 of whom were >>>> children, and the Israeli government publicly bragging that they’ve barely
    gotten started.
    _______________


    10k killed of whom 4k are children are numbers from Al-Jazeera and the >>>> Palestinian Health Ministry. You'll excuse me if I don't believe it.

    I saw it reported on the Wall Street Journal the other day and the number has been endorsed by the UN and numerous other news outlets. I haven’t heard Israel deny it, and like I said, they keep bragging that they’re just getting started. When I
    see the photos of the seemingly endless destruction of obviously residential neighbourhoods I think I would have taken the over. But I realize it is a VERY inconvenient number for those who blindly and unconditionally support Israel’s war crimes, so
    you best just go with your feeeeewings. Much more comfortable that way.


    Israel tells them weeks in advance where they are bombing and to stay away >>>> or get bombed. Sounds like you've been snookered by Hamas propaganda.


    Check the per capita income in Gaza. Most people have no money and nowhere to go. There are children, elderly, infirm, and seriously ill. And don’t forget that Israel cut off food, water, medicine and fuel to Gaza from Day 1. Ya, it’s not quite
    as simple as you make it out to be. I have seen the footage of residential areas being reduced to rubble and there are still LOTS of people there struggling to dig out the children and the babies. Oh ya, Hamas is also reportedly blocking the exit of
    civilians. It’s not a good human rights situation.

    And even if I believed your figures about QAnon supporters (which I don't, I
    have never met any conservatives among my friends or their friends who are >>>> "QAnon"; that's just more propaganda horseshit you believe for no reason, >>>> the vast majority of conservatives aren't kooks, they just want smaller >>>> government, less taxes, and for the U.S. to keep out of foreign wars/nation
    building in shithole countries that hate us),

    Well, I just googled “what percentage of Trump voters support QAnon, and every scientific poll I can find says I was pretty much bang-on. Give it a look and tell me what you find. And again, it might be more comfortable for you if you go with your
    feeeewings instead of the best data available.



    that doesn't explain all the
    liberal college kids fomenting support for Hamas and hatred of Jews.

    The college thing is disturbing. Those kids aren't QAnon kooks. They're >>>> your liberal kindred.

    You’re doing what Fox News does, namely making no attempt to quantify what percentage of those college protesters hate Jewish people and love Hamas and/or are committing what could be called hate crimes, and what I believe are the vast majority who
    are protesting Israel’s response to Hamas’ war crimes. After all, isn’t it natural to hold a modern, wealthy, technologically advanced county to a higher standard of human rights that you expect from a ragtag bunch of 6th century throwback
    terrorists?
    I was wrong in my assumption that Blab was not anti-semitic.

    Another word you don’t understand.

    More bullshit.

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  • From BillB@21:1/5 to da pickle on Tue Nov 14 14:02:00 2023
    On Tuesday, November 14, 2023 at 1:58:43 PM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/14/2023 2:56 PM, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, November 14, 2023 at 12:16:09 PM UTC-8, Mossingen wrote:
    "BillB" wrote in message
    news:2f6f2617-b0e7-415c...@googlegroups.com...
    On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 10:54:30 AM UTC-8, Mossingen wrote:
    "William Bradley" wrote in message
    news:55eaa4e9-03c8-4135...@googlegroups.com...
    On Friday, November 10, 2023 at 9:06:38 PM UTC-8, Mossingen wrote:
    .
    "William Bradley" wrote in message
    news:f6df9030-f286-49aa...@googlegroups.com...
    You got it backwards. Pretty much the only thing I see the left outraged
    about is right-wing in your face bigotry and the attempted imposition of
    obviously bogus and ridiculous religious doctrine on their lives (and I’m
    right there with them). Do you want a start of list of all the things >>>> and
    people right-wingers hate (most of which and whom have zero impact on >>>> their
    lives)? I’m fairly convinced that over 95% of the bigots spewing and >>>> promoting endless hatred toward transgender people have never even seen >>>> one
    (let alone interacted with one) in real life. Hating is just a sport to >>>> them. Take my advice and read the Fox News message boards. It is
    sickening.
    _____________


    Have you been paying attention to the Jew-hatred on college campuses? >>>> It's
    not conservatives. It's scary.

    I read a poll that 49% of QAnon supporters believe Jewish people are part
    of
    a conspiracy to take over the world. That’s like the wackiest 25% of Trump
    supporters, right? I don’t get it. I do get why people are angry about >>> 10,000 innocent Gazan civilians being killed in a month, 4000 of whom were
    children, and the Israeli government publicly bragging that they’ve barely
    gotten started.
    _______________


    10k killed of whom 4k are children are numbers from Al-Jazeera and the >>> Palestinian Health Ministry. You'll excuse me if I don't believe it.

    I saw it reported on the Wall Street Journal the other day and the number >> has been endorsed by the UN and numerous other news outlets. I haven’t heard
    Israel deny it, and like I said, they keep bragging that they’re just >> getting started. When I see the photos of the seemingly endless destruction
    of obviously residential neighbourhoods I think I would have taken the over.
    But I realize it is a VERY inconvenient number for those who blindly and >> unconditionally support Israel’s war crimes, so you best just go with your
    feeeeewings. Much more comfortable that way.


    Israel tells them weeks in advance where they are bombing and to stay away
    or get bombed. Sounds like you've been snookered by Hamas propaganda. >>>

    Check the per capita income in Gaza. Most people have no money and nowhere
    to go. There are children, elderly, infirm, and seriously ill. And don’t
    forget that Israel cut off food, water, medicine and fuel to Gaza from Day
    1. Ya, it’s not quite as simple as you make it out to be. I have seen the
    footage of residential areas being reduced to rubble and there are still >> LOTS of people there struggling to dig out the children and the babies. Oh
    ya, Hamas is also reportedly blocking the exit of civilians. It’s not a good
    human rights situation.

    And even if I believed your figures about QAnon supporters (which I don't,
    I
    have never met any conservatives among my friends or their friends who are
    "QAnon"; that's just more propaganda horseshit you believe for no reason,
    the vast majority of conservatives aren't kooks, they just want smaller >>> government, less taxes, and for the U.S. to keep out of foreign
    wars/nation
    building in shithole countries that hate us),

    Well, I just googled “what percentage of Trump voters support QAnon, and
    every scientific poll I can find says I was pretty much bang-on. Give it a
    look and tell me what you find. And again, it might be more comfortable for
    you if you go with your feeeewings instead of the best data available.



    that doesn't explain all the
    liberal college kids fomenting support for Hamas and hatred of Jews.

    The college thing is disturbing. Those kids aren't QAnon kooks. They're >>> your liberal kindred.

    You’re doing what Fox News does, namely making no attempt to quantify what
    percentage of those college protesters hate Jewish people and love Hamas >> and/or are committing what could be called hate crimes, and what I believe
    are the vast majority who are protesting Israel’s response to Hamas’ war
    crimes. After all, isn’t it natural to hold a modern, wealthy,
    technologically advanced county to a higher standard of human rights that >> you expect from a ragtag bunch of 6th century throwback terrorists?
    ____________________


    You and Tim Norfolk have this weird perspective that conservative college >> kids (is there even such a thing?) are the ones supporting Hamas and tearing
    down Missing posters. I guess if you want to believe that, you can.

    I didn’t say any such thing. My point was that those people represent a tiny minority of the college students protesting Israel’s war crimes, yet they are all lumped together when people say “look at all the anti-Jewish protests on college
    campuses.”

    I don't have a dog in this fight at all. I don't know any Palestinians, nor
    am I a Muslim, nor do I know any Jews, nor am I Jewish (I never even met a
    Jew until I got to law school). I can see how it is an insoluble situation.

    Leaving aside the religious aspects where both sides believe that God
    himself granted them the land at issue (which itself makes the situation >> insoluble), the 10/07 attack shows why there will never be peace there. >> Hamas is clearly a savage terrorist group. Comparisons to Nazis are cringe,
    but I think it's justified here. They present a problem much like the Nazis
    did, of an enemy unconstrained by any normal sense of morality and no limits
    on the depths of their depravity.

    So, they glide in and kill 1,400 Israelis. Israel has launched a savage >> response to this. Let's just assume that Israel's response is justified. >> That's the big debate at the moment, but let's just assume they are fully >> righteous in bombing Gaza and killing Palestinians in response.

    We can’t assume that because it’s simply not true. They are giving the finger to International Humanitarian Law and the laws of armed conflict. They are killing thousands of innocent people (about 40% of which are children), to get at a handful
    of Hamas fighters. That does not meet the required standard of proportionality. It is collective punishment. Documents have shown that Hamas planned the Oct7 attack for years and Israel never got a whiff of it. Yet a couple of weeks later they claim to
    know where Hamas fighters are in a maze of underground tunnels? That does not pass the smell test. They are bombing Gaza indiscriminately and have expressed every intention of continuing to do so.

    In reality, we see Palestinian parents pulling the bodies of their dead >> children from rubble, and their friends, family, etc. This righteous attack
    has engendered hundreds if not thousands of Palestinians who were not
    paragliders on 10/07, but who now are enraged with seething hate to kill as
    many Jews as they can. It is difficult to blame them even if I believe
    Israel is justified.

    So, the Palestinians will kill Jews again. Israel will respond again.
    There is a vicious cycle of hate that has been going on there for decades if
    not centuries and I do not see any solution at all. It is very sad for
    everyone involved.

    I am not saying I see a solution either, but blatant war crimes and the slaughter of tens of thousands of innocent civilians sure as hell isn’t it. These actions are entirely self-defeating and ill-conceived. They have guaranteed generations of
    terrorist attacks (or worse) with the conduct of this war. They might not be called “Hamas” (which Israel seems obsessed with), but they will be at least as deadly and persistent, and probably much more so.
    Bullshit

    In other words you have nothing.

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  • From BillB@21:1/5 to da pickle on Tue Nov 14 14:11:46 2023
    On Tuesday, November 14, 2023 at 1:59:09 PM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/14/2023 10:14 AM, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, November 14, 2023 at 4:57:05 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/13/2023 9:22 PM, BillB wrote:
    On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 10:54:30 AM UTC-8, Mossingen wrote: >>>> "William Bradley" wrote in message
    news:55eaa4e9-03c8-4135...@googlegroups.com...
    On Friday, November 10, 2023 at 9:06:38 PM UTC-8, Mossingen wrote: >>>>> .
    "William Bradley" wrote in message
    news:f6df9030-f286-49aa...@googlegroups.com...
    You got it backwards. Pretty much the only thing I see the left outraged
    about is right-wing in your face bigotry and the attempted imposition of
    obviously bogus and ridiculous religious doctrine on their lives (and I’m
    right there with them). Do you want a start of list of all the things and
    people right-wingers hate (most of which and whom have zero impact on >>>>> their
    lives)? I’m fairly convinced that over 95% of the bigots spewing and >>>>> promoting endless hatred toward transgender people have never even seen
    one
    (let alone interacted with one) in real life. Hating is just a sport to
    them. Take my advice and read the Fox News message boards. It is
    sickening.
    _____________


    Have you been paying attention to the Jew-hatred on college campuses? It's
    not conservatives. It's scary.

    I read a poll that 49% of QAnon supporters believe Jewish people are part of
    a conspiracy to take over the world. That’s like the wackiest 25% of Trump
    supporters, right? I don’t get it. I do get why people are angry about
    10,000 innocent Gazan civilians being killed in a month, 4000 of whom were
    children, and the Israeli government publicly bragging that they’ve barely
    gotten started.
    _______________


    10k killed of whom 4k are children are numbers from Al-Jazeera and the >>>> Palestinian Health Ministry. You'll excuse me if I don't believe it. >>>
    I saw it reported on the Wall Street Journal the other day and the number has been endorsed by the UN and numerous other news outlets. I haven’t heard Israel deny it, and like I said, they keep bragging that they’re just getting started. When I
    see the photos of the seemingly endless destruction of obviously residential neighbourhoods I think I would have taken the over. But I realize it is a VERY inconvenient number for those who blindly and unconditionally support Israel’s war crimes, so
    you best just go with your feeeeewings. Much more comfortable that way.


    Israel tells them weeks in advance where they are bombing and to stay away
    or get bombed. Sounds like you've been snookered by Hamas propaganda. >>>>

    Check the per capita income in Gaza. Most people have no money and nowhere to go. There are children, elderly, infirm, and seriously ill. And don’t forget that Israel cut off food, water, medicine and fuel to Gaza from Day 1. Ya, it’s not quite
    as simple as you make it out to be. I have seen the footage of residential areas being reduced to rubble and there are still LOTS of people there struggling to dig out the children and the babies. Oh ya, Hamas is also reportedly blocking the exit of
    civilians. It’s not a good human rights situation.

    And even if I believed your figures about QAnon supporters (which I don't, I
    have never met any conservatives among my friends or their friends who are
    "QAnon"; that's just more propaganda horseshit you believe for no reason,
    the vast majority of conservatives aren't kooks, they just want smaller >>>> government, less taxes, and for the U.S. to keep out of foreign wars/nation
    building in shithole countries that hate us),

    Well, I just googled “what percentage of Trump voters support QAnon, and every scientific poll I can find says I was pretty much bang-on. Give it a look and tell me what you find. And again, it might be more comfortable for you if you go with
    your feeeewings instead of the best data available.



    that doesn't explain all the
    liberal college kids fomenting support for Hamas and hatred of Jews. >>>>
    The college thing is disturbing. Those kids aren't QAnon kooks. They're >>>> your liberal kindred.

    You’re doing what Fox News does, namely making no attempt to quantify what percentage of those college protesters hate Jewish people and love Hamas and/or are committing what could be called hate crimes, and what I believe are the vast majority
    who are protesting Israel’s response to Hamas’ war crimes. After all, isn’t it natural to hold a modern, wealthy, technologically advanced county to a higher standard of human rights that you expect from a ragtag bunch of 6th century throwback
    terrorists?
    I was wrong in my assumption that Blab was not anti-semitic.

    Another word you don’t understand.
    More bullshit.

    More low-IQ nothingness. Nothing I have said is anti-Semitic, which is prejudice or hostility towards Jewish people in general. I have no such disposition. It has to do with calling out the policies of handful of right-wing war criminals in government,
    who happen to be Jewish. I would have the same hostile attitude toward the Canadian government if it were committing war crimes, let alone on the extreme level Israel is currently committing them. It has nothing to do with being Jewish. The issue is
    being a war criminal and someone or some entity with no apparent regard for innocent civilian life.

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  • From da pickle@21:1/5 to BillB on Tue Nov 14 17:29:13 2023
    On 11/14/2023 4:02 PM, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, November 14, 2023 at 1:58:43 PM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 11/14/2023 2:56 PM, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, November 14, 2023 at 12:16:09 PM UTC-8, Mossingen wrote:
    "BillB" wrote in message
    news:2f6f2617-b0e7-415c...@googlegroups.com...
    On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 10:54:30 AM UTC-8, Mossingen wrote:
    "William Bradley" wrote in message
    news:55eaa4e9-03c8-4135...@googlegroups.com...
    On Friday, November 10, 2023 at 9:06:38 PM UTC-8, Mossingen wrote:
    .
    "William Bradley" wrote in message
    news:f6df9030-f286-49aa...@googlegroups.com...
    You got it backwards. Pretty much the only thing I see the left outraged >>>>>> about is right-wing in your face bigotry and the attempted imposition of >>>>>> obviously bogus and ridiculous religious doctrine on their lives (and I’m
    right there with them). Do you want a start of list of all the things >>>>>> and
    people right-wingers hate (most of which and whom have zero impact on >>>>>> their
    lives)? I’m fairly convinced that over 95% of the bigots spewing and >>>>>> promoting endless hatred toward transgender people have never even seen >>>>>> one
    (let alone interacted with one) in real life. Hating is just a sport to >>>>>> them. Take my advice and read the Fox News message boards. It is
    sickening.
    _____________


    Have you been paying attention to the Jew-hatred on college campuses? >>>>>> It's
    not conservatives. It's scary.

    I read a poll that 49% of QAnon supporters believe Jewish people are part >>>>> of
    a conspiracy to take over the world. That’s like the wackiest 25% of Trump
    supporters, right? I don’t get it. I do get why people are angry about >>>>> 10,000 innocent Gazan civilians being killed in a month, 4000 of whom were
    children, and the Israeli government publicly bragging that they’ve barely
    gotten started.
    _______________


    10k killed of whom 4k are children are numbers from Al-Jazeera and the >>>>> Palestinian Health Ministry. You'll excuse me if I don't believe it.

    I saw it reported on the Wall Street Journal the other day and the number >>>> has been endorsed by the UN and numerous other news outlets. I haven’t heard
    Israel deny it, and like I said, they keep bragging that they’re just >>>> getting started. When I see the photos of the seemingly endless destruction
    of obviously residential neighbourhoods I think I would have taken the over.
    But I realize it is a VERY inconvenient number for those who blindly and >>>> unconditionally support Israel’s war crimes, so you best just go with your
    feeeeewings. Much more comfortable that way.


    Israel tells them weeks in advance where they are bombing and to stay away
    or get bombed. Sounds like you've been snookered by Hamas propaganda. >>>>>

    Check the per capita income in Gaza. Most people have no money and nowhere >>>> to go. There are children, elderly, infirm, and seriously ill. And don’t >>>> forget that Israel cut off food, water, medicine and fuel to Gaza from Day >>>> 1. Ya, it’s not quite as simple as you make it out to be. I have seen the
    footage of residential areas being reduced to rubble and there are still >>>> LOTS of people there struggling to dig out the children and the babies. Oh >>>> ya, Hamas is also reportedly blocking the exit of civilians. It’s not a good
    human rights situation.

    And even if I believed your figures about QAnon supporters (which I don't,
    I
    have never met any conservatives among my friends or their friends who are
    "QAnon"; that's just more propaganda horseshit you believe for no reason, >>>>> the vast majority of conservatives aren't kooks, they just want smaller >>>>> government, less taxes, and for the U.S. to keep out of foreign
    wars/nation
    building in shithole countries that hate us),

    Well, I just googled “what percentage of Trump voters support QAnon, and >>>> every scientific poll I can find says I was pretty much bang-on. Give it a >>>> look and tell me what you find. And again, it might be more comfortable for
    you if you go with your feeeewings instead of the best data available. >>>>


    that doesn't explain all the
    liberal college kids fomenting support for Hamas and hatred of Jews. >>>>>
    The college thing is disturbing. Those kids aren't QAnon kooks. They're >>>>> your liberal kindred.

    You’re doing what Fox News does, namely making no attempt to quantify what
    percentage of those college protesters hate Jewish people and love Hamas >>>> and/or are committing what could be called hate crimes, and what I believe >>>> are the vast majority who are protesting Israel’s response to Hamas’ war
    crimes. After all, isn’t it natural to hold a modern, wealthy,
    technologically advanced county to a higher standard of human rights that >>>> you expect from a ragtag bunch of 6th century throwback terrorists?
    ____________________


    You and Tim Norfolk have this weird perspective that conservative college >>>> kids (is there even such a thing?) are the ones supporting Hamas and tearing
    down Missing posters. I guess if you want to believe that, you can.

    I didn’t say any such thing. My point was that those people represent a tiny minority of the college students protesting Israel’s war crimes, yet they are all lumped together when people say “look at all the anti-Jewish protests on college
    campuses.”

    I don't have a dog in this fight at all. I don't know any Palestinians, nor
    am I a Muslim, nor do I know any Jews, nor am I Jewish (I never even met a >>>> Jew until I got to law school). I can see how it is an insoluble situation.

    Leaving aside the religious aspects where both sides believe that God
    himself granted them the land at issue (which itself makes the situation >>>> insoluble), the 10/07 attack shows why there will never be peace there. >>>> Hamas is clearly a savage terrorist group. Comparisons to Nazis are cringe,
    but I think it's justified here. They present a problem much like the Nazis
    did, of an enemy unconstrained by any normal sense of morality and no limits
    on the depths of their depravity.

    So, they glide in and kill 1,400 Israelis. Israel has launched a savage >>>> response to this. Let's just assume that Israel's response is justified. >>>> That's the big debate at the moment, but let's just assume they are fully >>>> righteous in bombing Gaza and killing Palestinians in response.

    We can’t assume that because it’s simply not true. They are giving the finger to International Humanitarian Law and the laws of armed conflict. They are killing thousands of innocent people (about 40% of which are children), to get at a handful
    of Hamas fighters. That does not meet the required standard of proportionality. It is collective punishment. Documents have shown that Hamas planned the Oct7 attack for years and Israel never got a whiff of it. Yet a couple of weeks later they claim to
    know where Hamas fighters are in a maze of underground tunnels? That does not pass the smell test. They are bombing Gaza indiscriminately and have expressed every intention of continuing to do so.

    In reality, we see Palestinian parents pulling the bodies of their dead >>>> children from rubble, and their friends, family, etc. This righteous attack
    has engendered hundreds if not thousands of Palestinians who were not
    paragliders on 10/07, but who now are enraged with seething hate to kill as
    many Jews as they can. It is difficult to blame them even if I believe >>>> Israel is justified.

    So, the Palestinians will kill Jews again. Israel will respond again.
    There is a vicious cycle of hate that has been going on there for decades if
    not centuries and I do not see any solution at all. It is very sad for >>>> everyone involved.

    I am not saying I see a solution either, but blatant war crimes and the slaughter of tens of thousands of innocent civilians sure as hell isn’t it. These actions are entirely self-defeating and ill-conceived. They have guaranteed generations of
    terrorist attacks (or worse) with the conduct of this war. They might not be called “Hamas” (which Israel seems obsessed with), but they will be at least as deadly and persistent, and probably much more so.
    Bullshit

    In other words you have nothing.

    In other words you have nothing.

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to Mossingen on Wed Nov 15 11:17:05 2023
    On Tuesday, November 14, 2023 at 12:16:09 PM UTC-8, Mossingen wrote:
    "BillB" wrote in message
    news:2f6f2617-b0e7-415c...@googlegroups.com...
    On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 10:54:30 AM UTC-8, Mossingen wrote:
    "William Bradley" wrote in message news:55eaa4e9-03c8-4135...@googlegroups.com...
    On Friday, November 10, 2023 at 9:06:38 PM UTC-8, Mossingen wrote:
    .
    "William Bradley" wrote in message news:f6df9030-f286-49aa...@googlegroups.com...
    You got it backwards. Pretty much the only thing I see the left outraged about is right-wing in your face bigotry and the attempted imposition of obviously bogus and ridiculous religious doctrine on their lives (and I’m
    right there with them). Do you want a start of list of all the things and
    people right-wingers hate (most of which and whom have zero impact on their
    lives)? I’m fairly convinced that over 95% of the bigots spewing and promoting endless hatred toward transgender people have never even seen one
    (let alone interacted with one) in real life. Hating is just a sport to them. Take my advice and read the Fox News message boards. It is sickening.
    _____________


    Have you been paying attention to the Jew-hatred on college campuses? It's
    not conservatives. It's scary.

    I read a poll that 49% of QAnon supporters believe Jewish people are part of
    a conspiracy to take over the world. That’s like the wackiest 25% of Trump
    supporters, right? I don’t get it. I do get why people are angry about 10,000 innocent Gazan civilians being killed in a month, 4000 of whom were children, and the Israeli government publicly bragging that they’ve barely
    gotten started.
    _______________


    10k killed of whom 4k are children are numbers from Al-Jazeera and the Palestinian Health Ministry. You'll excuse me if I don't believe it.

    I saw it reported on the Wall Street Journal the other day and the number has been endorsed by the UN and numerous other news outlets. I haven’t heard
    Israel deny it, and like I said, they keep bragging that they’re just getting started. When I see the photos of the seemingly endless destruction of obviously residential neighbourhoods I think I would have taken the over. But I realize it is a VERY inconvenient number for those who blindly and unconditionally support Israel’s war crimes, so you best just go with your feeeeewings. Much more comfortable that way.


    Israel tells them weeks in advance where they are bombing and to stay away or get bombed. Sounds like you've been snookered by Hamas propaganda.


    Check the per capita income in Gaza. Most people have no money and nowhere to go. There are children, elderly, infirm, and seriously ill. And don’t forget that Israel cut off food, water, medicine and fuel to Gaza from Day 1. Ya, it’s not quite as simple as you make it out to be. I have seen the footage of residential areas being reduced to rubble and there are still LOTS of people there struggling to dig out the children and the babies. Oh ya, Hamas is also reportedly blocking the exit of civilians. It’s not a good
    human rights situation.

    And even if I believed your figures about QAnon supporters (which I don't, I
    have never met any conservatives among my friends or their friends who are "QAnon"; that's just more propaganda horseshit you believe for no reason, the vast majority of conservatives aren't kooks, they just want smaller government, less taxes, and for the U.S. to keep out of foreign wars/nation
    building in shithole countries that hate us),

    Well, I just googled “what percentage of Trump voters support QAnon, and every scientific poll I can find says I was pretty much bang-on. Give it a look and tell me what you find. And again, it might be more comfortable for you if you go with your feeeewings instead of the best data available.



    that doesn't explain all the
    liberal college kids fomenting support for Hamas and hatred of Jews.

    The college thing is disturbing. Those kids aren't QAnon kooks. They're your liberal kindred.

    You’re doing what Fox News does, namely making no attempt to quantify what percentage of those college protesters hate Jewish people and love Hamas and/or are committing what could be called hate crimes, and what I believe are the vast majority who are protesting Israel’s response to Hamas’ war crimes. After all, isn’t it natural to hold a modern, wealthy, technologically advanced county to a higher standard of human rights that you expect from a ragtag bunch of 6th century throwback terrorists? ____________________


    You and Tim Norfolk have this weird perspective that conservative college kids (is there even such a thing?) are the ones supporting Hamas and tearing down Missing posters. I guess if you want to believe that, you can.

    I don't have a dog in this fight at all. I don't know any Palestinians, nor am I a Muslim, nor do I know any Jews, nor am I Jewish (I never even met a Jew until I got to law school). I can see how it is an insoluble situation.

    Leaving aside the religious aspects where both sides believe that God himself granted them the land at issue (which itself makes the situation insoluble), the 10/07 attack shows why there will never be peace there. Hamas is clearly a savage terrorist group. Comparisons to Nazis are cringe, but I think it's justified here. They present a problem much like the Nazis did, of an enemy unconstrained by any normal sense of morality and no limits on the depths of their depravity.

    So, they glide in and kill 1,400 Israelis. Israel has launched a savage response to this. Let's just assume that Israel's response is justified.
    .

    Easy assumption: unless it's believed - while Hamas missiles are still dropping -
    they shouldn't respond at all.
    .
    .

    That's the big debate at the moment, but let's just assume they are fully righteous in bombing Gaza and killing Palestinians in response.
    .

    The response is not to kill Palestinians, they have been notified to leave, but to kill Hamas.
    .
    .

    In reality, we see Palestinian parents pulling the bodies of their dead children from rubble, and their friends, family, etc. This righteous attack has engendered hundreds if not thousands of Palestinians who were not paragliders on 10/07, but who now are enraged with seething hate to kill as many Jews as they can. It is difficult to blame them even if I believe Israel is justified.
    .

    With some interviews recorded showing many Palestinians understanding why Israel is responding, and understanding that Hamas is still sending missiles, I believe your assumption is wrong.
    ..

    So, the Palestinians will kill Jews again. Israel will respond again.
    There is a vicious cycle of hate that has been going on there for decades if not centuries and I do not see any solution at all.
    .

    Israel does. Go in and completely destroy Hamas. Completely. Kind of a final 'solution.'
    And have Giza completely controlled.
    .
    .

    It is very sad for everyone involved.

    Yes.

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to BillB on Wed Nov 15 11:35:55 2023
    On Tuesday, November 14, 2023 at 12:57:01 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, November 14, 2023 at 12:16:09 PM UTC-8, Mossingen wrote:
    "BillB" wrote in message
    news:2f6f2617-b0e7-415c...@googlegroups.com...
    On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 10:54:30 AM UTC-8, Mossingen wrote:
    "William Bradley" wrote in message news:55eaa4e9-03c8-4135...@googlegroups.com...
    On Friday, November 10, 2023 at 9:06:38 PM UTC-8, Mossingen wrote:
    .
    "William Bradley" wrote in message news:f6df9030-f286-49aa...@googlegroups.com...
    You got it backwards. Pretty much the only thing I see the left outraged
    about is right-wing in your face bigotry and the attempted imposition of
    obviously bogus and ridiculous religious doctrine on their lives (and I’m
    right there with them). Do you want a start of list of all the things and
    people right-wingers hate (most of which and whom have zero impact on their
    lives)? I’m fairly convinced that over 95% of the bigots spewing and promoting endless hatred toward transgender people have never even seen
    one
    (let alone interacted with one) in real life. Hating is just a sport to
    them. Take my advice and read the Fox News message boards. It is sickening.
    _____________


    Have you been paying attention to the Jew-hatred on college campuses? It's
    not conservatives. It's scary.

    I read a poll that 49% of QAnon supporters believe Jewish people are part
    of
    a conspiracy to take over the world. That’s like the wackiest 25% of Trump
    supporters, right? I don’t get it. I do get why people are angry about 10,000 innocent Gazan civilians being killed in a month, 4000 of whom were
    children, and the Israeli government publicly bragging that they’ve barely
    gotten started.
    _______________


    10k killed of whom 4k are children are numbers from Al-Jazeera and the Palestinian Health Ministry. You'll excuse me if I don't believe it.

    I saw it reported on the Wall Street Journal the other day and the number has been endorsed by the UN and numerous other news outlets. I haven’t heard
    Israel deny it, and like I said, they keep bragging that they’re just getting started. When I see the photos of the seemingly endless destruction
    of obviously residential neighbourhoods I think I would have taken the over.
    But I realize it is a VERY inconvenient number for those who blindly and unconditionally support Israel’s war crimes, so you best just go with your
    feeeeewings. Much more comfortable that way.


    Israel tells them weeks in advance where they are bombing and to stay away
    or get bombed. Sounds like you've been snookered by Hamas propaganda.


    Check the per capita income in Gaza. Most people have no money and nowhere to go. There are children, elderly, infirm, and seriously ill. And don’t forget that Israel cut off food, water, medicine and fuel to Gaza from Day 1. Ya, it’s not quite as simple as you make it out to be. I have seen the
    footage of residential areas being reduced to rubble and there are still LOTS of people there struggling to dig out the children and the babies. Oh ya, Hamas is also reportedly blocking the exit of civilians. It’s not a good
    human rights situation.

    And even if I believed your figures about QAnon supporters (which I don't,
    I
    have never met any conservatives among my friends or their friends who are
    "QAnon"; that's just more propaganda horseshit you believe for no reason,
    the vast majority of conservatives aren't kooks, they just want smaller government, less taxes, and for the U.S. to keep out of foreign wars/nation
    building in shithole countries that hate us),

    Well, I just googled “what percentage of Trump voters support QAnon, and every scientific poll I can find says I was pretty much bang-on. Give it a look and tell me what you find. And again, it might be more comfortable for
    you if you go with your feeeewings instead of the best data available.



    that doesn't explain all the
    liberal college kids fomenting support for Hamas and hatred of Jews.

    The college thing is disturbing. Those kids aren't QAnon kooks. They're your liberal kindred.

    You’re doing what Fox News does, namely making no attempt to quantify what
    percentage of those college protesters hate Jewish people and love Hamas and/or are committing what could be called hate crimes, and what I believe are the vast majority who are protesting Israel’s response to Hamas’ war
    crimes. After all, isn’t it natural to hold a modern, wealthy, technologically advanced county to a higher standard of human rights that you expect from a ragtag bunch of 6th century throwback terrorists? ____________________


    You and Tim Norfolk have this weird perspective that conservative college kids (is there even such a thing?) are the ones supporting Hamas and tearing
    down Missing posters. I guess if you want to believe that, you can.
    I didn’t say any such thing. My point was that those people represent a tiny minority of the college students protesting Israel’s war crimes, yet they are all lumped together when people say “look at all the anti-Jewish protests on college
    campuses.”
    I don't have a dog in this fight at all. I don't know any Palestinians, nor
    am I a Muslim, nor do I know any Jews, nor am I Jewish (I never even met a Jew until I got to law school). I can see how it is an insoluble situation.

    Leaving aside the religious aspects where both sides believe that God himself granted them the land at issue (which itself makes the situation insoluble), the 10/07 attack shows why there will never be peace there. Hamas is clearly a savage terrorist group. Comparisons to Nazis are cringe,
    but I think it's justified here. They present a problem much like the Nazis
    did, of an enemy unconstrained by any normal sense of morality and no limits
    on the depths of their depravity.

    So, they glide in and kill 1,400 Israelis. Israel has launched a savage response to this. Let's just assume that Israel's response is justified. That's the big debate at the moment, but let's just assume they are fully righteous in bombing Gaza and killing Palestinians in response.
    .
    .

    We can’t assume that because it’s simply not true. They are giving the finger to International
    Humanitarian Law and the laws of armed conflict.
    .

    Like us dropping the bomb on Hiroshima. "Military necessity." Unless you got a better way of
    stopping Hamas from launching missiles from next to a hospital.
    .
    .

    They are killing thousands of innocent people (about 40% of which are children), to get at a
    handful of Hamas fighters.
    .

    Like I say, you got a better way?
    .

    That does not meet the required standard of proportionality.
    .

    It doesn't have to.
    .

    It is collective punishment.
    .

    No, it's not. It's self-defense.
    .

    Documents have shown that Hamas planned the Oct7 attack for years..

    Give us a look, will ya?
    .

    and Israel never got a whiff of it. Yet a couple of weeks later they claim to know where Hamas
    fighters are in a maze of underground tunnels?

    Yea, because they have satellite photos of missile launchings and radio intercept translation.
    .

    That does not pass the smell test.

    They don't us smell.

    They are bombing Gaza indiscriminately and have expressed every intention of continuing to do so.

    No, they are not. They have more actual targets than missiles.
    .

    In reality, we see Palestinian parents pulling the bodies of their dead children from rubble, and their friends, family, etc. This righteous attack
    has engendered hundreds if not thousands of Palestinians who were not paragliders on 10/07, but who now are enraged with seething hate to kill as
    many Jews as they can. It is difficult to blame them even if I believe Israel is justified.

    So, the Palestinians will kill Jews again. Israel will respond again. There is a vicious cycle of hate that has been going on there for decades if
    not centuries and I do not see any solution at all. It is very sad for everyone involved.
    .
    I am not saying I see a solution either, but blatant war crimes
    .

    You mean Hamas war crimes? Because I haven't seen any Israel war crimes.
    .

    and the slaughter of tens of thousands of innocent civilians sure as hell isn’t it. These actions
    are entirely self-defeating and ill-conceived.
    .

    Really? Seems to be doing the job.
    .

    They have guaranteed generations of terrorist attacks (or worse) with the conduct of this war.

    "Guaranteed generations of terrorist attacks" is why Israel is fighting back.
    .

    They might not be called “Hamas” (which Israel seems obsessed with)
    .

    "Obsessed with?" Who do you think is attacking Israel? Who do you think Israel should respond to?
    .

    but they will be at least as deadly and persistent, and probably much more so.

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  • From BillB@21:1/5 to VegasJerry on Wed Nov 15 13:52:25 2023
    On Wednesday, November 15, 2023 at 11:35:59 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Tuesday, November 14, 2023 at 12:57:01 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, November 14, 2023 at 12:16:09 PM UTC-8, Mossingen wrote:
    "BillB" wrote in message
    news:2f6f2617-b0e7-415c...@googlegroups.com...
    On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 10:54:30 AM UTC-8, Mossingen wrote:
    "William Bradley" wrote in message news:55eaa4e9-03c8-4135...@googlegroups.com...
    On Friday, November 10, 2023 at 9:06:38 PM UTC-8, Mossingen wrote:
    .
    "William Bradley" wrote in message news:f6df9030-f286-49aa...@googlegroups.com...
    You got it backwards. Pretty much the only thing I see the left outraged
    about is right-wing in your face bigotry and the attempted imposition of
    obviously bogus and ridiculous religious doctrine on their lives (and I’m
    right there with them). Do you want a start of list of all the things
    and
    people right-wingers hate (most of which and whom have zero impact on
    their
    lives)? I’m fairly convinced that over 95% of the bigots spewing and
    promoting endless hatred toward transgender people have never even seen
    one
    (let alone interacted with one) in real life. Hating is just a sport to
    them. Take my advice and read the Fox News message boards. It is sickening.
    _____________


    Have you been paying attention to the Jew-hatred on college campuses?
    It's
    not conservatives. It's scary.

    I read a poll that 49% of QAnon supporters believe Jewish people are part
    of
    a conspiracy to take over the world. That’s like the wackiest 25% of Trump
    supporters, right? I don’t get it. I do get why people are angry about
    10,000 innocent Gazan civilians being killed in a month, 4000 of whom were
    children, and the Israeli government publicly bragging that they’ve barely
    gotten started.
    _______________


    10k killed of whom 4k are children are numbers from Al-Jazeera and the Palestinian Health Ministry. You'll excuse me if I don't believe it.

    I saw it reported on the Wall Street Journal the other day and the number
    has been endorsed by the UN and numerous other news outlets. I haven’t heard
    Israel deny it, and like I said, they keep bragging that they’re just getting started. When I see the photos of the seemingly endless destruction
    of obviously residential neighbourhoods I think I would have taken the over.
    But I realize it is a VERY inconvenient number for those who blindly and unconditionally support Israel’s war crimes, so you best just go with your
    feeeeewings. Much more comfortable that way.


    Israel tells them weeks in advance where they are bombing and to stay away
    or get bombed. Sounds like you've been snookered by Hamas propaganda.


    Check the per capita income in Gaza. Most people have no money and nowhere
    to go. There are children, elderly, infirm, and seriously ill. And don’t
    forget that Israel cut off food, water, medicine and fuel to Gaza from Day
    1. Ya, it’s not quite as simple as you make it out to be. I have seen the
    footage of residential areas being reduced to rubble and there are still LOTS of people there struggling to dig out the children and the babies. Oh
    ya, Hamas is also reportedly blocking the exit of civilians. It’s not a good
    human rights situation.

    And even if I believed your figures about QAnon supporters (which I don't,
    I
    have never met any conservatives among my friends or their friends who are
    "QAnon"; that's just more propaganda horseshit you believe for no reason,
    the vast majority of conservatives aren't kooks, they just want smaller
    government, less taxes, and for the U.S. to keep out of foreign wars/nation
    building in shithole countries that hate us),

    Well, I just googled “what percentage of Trump voters support QAnon, and
    every scientific poll I can find says I was pretty much bang-on. Give it a
    look and tell me what you find. And again, it might be more comfortable for
    you if you go with your feeeewings instead of the best data available.



    that doesn't explain all the
    liberal college kids fomenting support for Hamas and hatred of Jews.

    The college thing is disturbing. Those kids aren't QAnon kooks. They're
    your liberal kindred.

    You’re doing what Fox News does, namely making no attempt to quantify what
    percentage of those college protesters hate Jewish people and love Hamas and/or are committing what could be called hate crimes, and what I believe
    are the vast majority who are protesting Israel’s response to Hamas’ war
    crimes. After all, isn’t it natural to hold a modern, wealthy, technologically advanced county to a higher standard of human rights that
    you expect from a ragtag bunch of 6th century throwback terrorists? ____________________


    You and Tim Norfolk have this weird perspective that conservative college
    kids (is there even such a thing?) are the ones supporting Hamas and tearing
    down Missing posters. I guess if you want to believe that, you can.
    I didn’t say any such thing. My point was that those people represent a tiny minority of the college students protesting Israel’s war crimes, yet they are all lumped together when people say “look at all the anti-Jewish protests on college
    campuses.”
    I don't have a dog in this fight at all. I don't know any Palestinians, nor
    am I a Muslim, nor do I know any Jews, nor am I Jewish (I never even met a
    Jew until I got to law school). I can see how it is an insoluble situation.

    Leaving aside the religious aspects where both sides believe that God himself granted them the land at issue (which itself makes the situation insoluble), the 10/07 attack shows why there will never be peace there. Hamas is clearly a savage terrorist group. Comparisons to Nazis are cringe,
    but I think it's justified here. They present a problem much like the Nazis
    did, of an enemy unconstrained by any normal sense of morality and no limits
    on the depths of their depravity.

    So, they glide in and kill 1,400 Israelis. Israel has launched a savage response to this. Let's just assume that Israel's response is justified. That's the big debate at the moment, but let's just assume they are fully
    righteous in bombing Gaza and killing Palestinians in response.
    .
    .

    We can’t assume that because it’s simply not true. They are giving the finger to International
    Humanitarian Law and the laws of armed conflict.
    .

    Like us dropping the bomb on Hiroshima. "Military necessity." Unless you got a better way of
    stopping Hamas from launching missiles from next to a hospital.
    .
    .

    They are killing thousands of innocent people (about 40% of which are children), to get at a
    handful of Hamas fighters.
    .

    Like I say, you got a better way?
    .

    That does not meet the required standard of proportionality.
    .

    It doesn't have to.
    .

    It is collective punishment.
    .

    No, it's not. It's self-defense.
    .

    Documents have shown that Hamas planned the Oct7 attack for years..

    Give us a look, will ya?
    .
    and Israel never got a whiff of it. Yet a couple of weeks later they claim to know where Hamas
    fighters are in a maze of underground tunnels?
    Yea, because they have satellite photos of missile launchings and radio intercept translation.
    .
    That does not pass the smell test.
    They don't us smell.
    They are bombing Gaza indiscriminately and have expressed every intention of continuing to do so.
    No, they are not. They have more actual targets than missiles.
    .

    In reality, we see Palestinian parents pulling the bodies of their dead children from rubble, and their friends, family, etc. This righteous attack
    has engendered hundreds if not thousands of Palestinians who were not paragliders on 10/07, but who now are enraged with seething hate to kill as
    many Jews as they can. It is difficult to blame them even if I believe Israel is justified.

    So, the Palestinians will kill Jews again. Israel will respond again. There is a vicious cycle of hate that has been going on there for decades if
    not centuries and I do not see any solution at all. It is very sad for everyone involved.
    .
    I am not saying I see a solution either, but blatant war crimes
    .

    You mean Hamas war crimes? Because I haven't seen any Israel war crimes.
    .
    and the slaughter of tens of thousands of innocent civilians sure as hell isn’t it. These actions
    are entirely self-defeating and ill-conceived.
    .

    Really? Seems to be doing the job.
    .

    They have guaranteed generations of terrorist attacks (or worse) with the conduct of this war.
    "Guaranteed generations of terrorist attacks" is why Israel is fighting back. .

    They might not be called “Hamas” (which Israel seems obsessed with)
    .

    "Obsessed with?" Who do you think is attacking Israel? Who do you think Israel should respond to?
    .
    but they will be at least as deadly and persistent, and probably much more so.

    Some of the staunchest Israel supporting states on the planet are now saying to them (in so many words), “Guys, uh, what the fuck are you doing? You are making US look bad for supporting you.” Israel needs to target Hamas directly and it’s a
    target rich environment. You can’t just bomb a hospital or a refugee camp because you think Hamas might have an office in a tunnel under it. And have you not seen the drone footage of miles and miles of residential buildings bombed out? It’s sick.
    Where are civilians going to live after the current hostilities subside? Israel has a sizeable and well trained military. They should be able to take care of Hamas without killing tens of thousands of vulnerable and totally innocent civilians. In fact,
    it should have been taken care of long before the October 7 attack. It’s clear that Israel does not have nearly enough intelligence assets on the ground in Gaza and the West Bank. If they did they could easily pick off Hamas leaders one by one with a
    bare minimum of civilian casualties. As it stands, Palestinian civilians are paying the price for Israel's negligence and incompetence. Israel is not helping itself by making its closest allies question if publicly backing them is really in their own
    best interests.

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  • From Mossingen@21:1/5 to All on Thu Nov 16 12:48:39 2023
    "BillB" wrote in message news:30ce5846-3b63-47a6-af0e-4c5f7312b7fcn@googlegroups.com...


    Some of the staunchest Israel supporting states on the planet are now saying
    to them (in so many words), “Guys, uh, what the fuck are you doing? You are making US look bad for supporting you.” Israel needs to target Hamas directly and it’s a target rich environment. You can’t just bomb a hospital or a refugee camp because you think Hamas might have an office in a tunnel under it. And have you not seen the drone footage of miles and miles of residential buildings bombed out? It’s sick. Where are civilians going to live after the current hostilities subside? Israel has a sizeable and well trained military. They should be able to take care of Hamas without killing tens of thousands of vulnerable and totally innocent civilians. In fact, it should have been taken care of long before the October 7 attack. It’s clear that Israel does not have nearly enough intelligence assets on the ground in Gaza and the West Bank. If they did they could easily pick off Hamas leaders one by one with a bare minimum of civilian casualties. As it stands, Palestinian civilians are paying the price for Israel's negligence and incompetence. Israel is not helping itself by making its closest allies question if publicly backing them is really in their own best interests.


    ______________


    It is a quandary. I read things that say the leader of Hamas is living a
    life of luxury in Qatar. Yet, no one seems to broach the subject of whether Qatar should be sanctioned for this, or why Israel has not sent assassins to kill the guy rather than the carpet bombing of Gaza.

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  • From Tim Norfolk@21:1/5 to Mossingen on Thu Nov 16 17:48:02 2023
    On Tuesday, November 14, 2023 at 3:16:09 PM UTC-5, Mossingen wrote:
    "BillB" wrote in message
    news:2f6f2617-b0e7-415c...@googlegroups.com...
    On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 10:54:30 AM UTC-8, Mossingen wrote:
    "William Bradley" wrote in message news:55eaa4e9-03c8-4135...@googlegroups.com...
    On Friday, November 10, 2023 at 9:06:38 PM UTC-8, Mossingen wrote:
    .
    "William Bradley" wrote in message news:f6df9030-f286-49aa...@googlegroups.com...
    You got it backwards. Pretty much the only thing I see the left outraged about is right-wing in your face bigotry and the attempted imposition of obviously bogus and ridiculous religious doctrine on their lives (and I’m
    right there with them). Do you want a start of list of all the things and
    people right-wingers hate (most of which and whom have zero impact on their
    lives)? I’m fairly convinced that over 95% of the bigots spewing and promoting endless hatred toward transgender people have never even seen one
    (let alone interacted with one) in real life. Hating is just a sport to them. Take my advice and read the Fox News message boards. It is sickening.
    _____________


    Have you been paying attention to the Jew-hatred on college campuses? It's
    not conservatives. It's scary.

    I read a poll that 49% of QAnon supporters believe Jewish people are part of
    a conspiracy to take over the world. That’s like the wackiest 25% of Trump
    supporters, right? I don’t get it. I do get why people are angry about 10,000 innocent Gazan civilians being killed in a month, 4000 of whom were children, and the Israeli government publicly bragging that they’ve barely
    gotten started.
    _______________


    10k killed of whom 4k are children are numbers from Al-Jazeera and the Palestinian Health Ministry. You'll excuse me if I don't believe it.

    I saw it reported on the Wall Street Journal the other day and the number has been endorsed by the UN and numerous other news outlets. I haven’t heard
    Israel deny it, and like I said, they keep bragging that they’re just getting started. When I see the photos of the seemingly endless destruction of obviously residential neighbourhoods I think I would have taken the over. But I realize it is a VERY inconvenient number for those who blindly and unconditionally support Israel’s war crimes, so you best just go with your feeeeewings. Much more comfortable that way.


    Israel tells them weeks in advance where they are bombing and to stay away or get bombed. Sounds like you've been snookered by Hamas propaganda.


    Check the per capita income in Gaza. Most people have no money and nowhere to go. There are children, elderly, infirm, and seriously ill. And don’t forget that Israel cut off food, water, medicine and fuel to Gaza from Day 1. Ya, it’s not quite as simple as you make it out to be. I have seen the footage of residential areas being reduced to rubble and there are still LOTS of people there struggling to dig out the children and the babies. Oh ya, Hamas is also reportedly blocking the exit of civilians. It’s not a good
    human rights situation.

    And even if I believed your figures about QAnon supporters (which I don't, I
    have never met any conservatives among my friends or their friends who are "QAnon"; that's just more propaganda horseshit you believe for no reason, the vast majority of conservatives aren't kooks, they just want smaller government, less taxes, and for the U.S. to keep out of foreign wars/nation
    building in shithole countries that hate us),

    Well, I just googled “what percentage of Trump voters support QAnon, and every scientific poll I can find says I was pretty much bang-on. Give it a look and tell me what you find. And again, it might be more comfortable for you if you go with your feeeewings instead of the best data available.



    that doesn't explain all the
    liberal college kids fomenting support for Hamas and hatred of Jews.

    The college thing is disturbing. Those kids aren't QAnon kooks. They're your liberal kindred.

    You’re doing what Fox News does, namely making no attempt to quantify what percentage of those college protesters hate Jewish people and love Hamas and/or are committing what could be called hate crimes, and what I believe are the vast majority who are protesting Israel’s response to Hamas’ war crimes. After all, isn’t it natural to hold a modern, wealthy, technologically advanced county to a higher standard of human rights that you expect from a ragtag bunch of 6th century throwback terrorists? ____________________


    You and Tim Norfolk have this weird perspective that conservative college kids (is there even such a thing?) are the ones supporting Hamas and tearing down Missing posters. I guess if you want to believe that, you can.

    I don't have a dog in this fight at all. I don't know any Palestinians, nor am I a Muslim, nor do I know any Jews, nor am I Jewish (I never even met a Jew until I got to law school). I can see how it is an insoluble situation.

    Leaving aside the religious aspects where both sides believe that God himself granted them the land at issue (which itself makes the situation insoluble), the 10/07 attack shows why there will never be peace there. Hamas is clearly a savage terrorist group. Comparisons to Nazis are cringe, but I think it's justified here. They present a problem much like the Nazis did, of an enemy unconstrained by any normal sense of morality and no limits on the depths of their depravity.

    So, they glide in and kill 1,400 Israelis. Israel has launched a savage response to this. Let's just assume that Israel's response is justified. That's the big debate at the moment, but let's just assume they are fully righteous in bombing Gaza and killing Palestinians in response.

    In reality, we see Palestinian parents pulling the bodies of their dead children from rubble, and their friends, family, etc. This righteous attack has engendered hundreds if not thousands of Palestinians who were not paragliders on 10/07, but who now are enraged with seething hate to kill as many Jews as they can. It is difficult to blame them even if I believe Israel is justified.

    So, the Palestinians will kill Jews again. Israel will respond again.
    There is a vicious cycle of hate that has been going on there for decades if not centuries and I do not see any solution at all. It is very sad for everyone involved.

    I agree with your last statement, and could happily steer you to gobs of conservative college students. If you don't restrict it, I would suspect that Liberty University, Bob Jones University, Patrick Henry College and the like are chock full of them.
    You could also look up the Salem hypothesis, which posits that, of the STEM disciplines, Engineering, Computer Science and Mathematics were the ones with the largest proportion of Young Earth Creationism, which is distinctly conservative.

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to BillB on Fri Nov 17 08:03:55 2023
    On Wednesday, November 15, 2023 at 1:52:29 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Wednesday, November 15, 2023 at 11:35:59 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Tuesday, November 14, 2023 at 12:57:01 PM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Tuesday, November 14, 2023 at 12:16:09 PM UTC-8, Mossingen wrote:
    "BillB" wrote in message news:2f6f2617-b0e7-415c...@googlegroups.com...
    On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 10:54:30 AM UTC-8, Mossingen wrote:
    "William Bradley" wrote in message news:55eaa4e9-03c8-4135...@googlegroups.com...
    On Friday, November 10, 2023 at 9:06:38 PM UTC-8, Mossingen wrote:
    .
    "William Bradley" wrote in message news:f6df9030-f286-49aa...@googlegroups.com...
    You got it backwards. Pretty much the only thing I see the left outraged
    about is right-wing in your face bigotry and the attempted imposition of
    obviously bogus and ridiculous religious doctrine on their lives (and I’m
    right there with them). Do you want a start of list of all the things
    and
    people right-wingers hate (most of which and whom have zero impact on
    their
    lives)? I’m fairly convinced that over 95% of the bigots spewing and
    promoting endless hatred toward transgender people have never even seen
    one
    (let alone interacted with one) in real life. Hating is just a sport to
    them. Take my advice and read the Fox News message boards. It is sickening.
    _____________


    Have you been paying attention to the Jew-hatred on college campuses?
    It's
    not conservatives. It's scary.

    I read a poll that 49% of QAnon supporters believe Jewish people are part
    of
    a conspiracy to take over the world. That’s like the wackiest 25% of Trump
    supporters, right? I don’t get it. I do get why people are angry about
    10,000 innocent Gazan civilians being killed in a month, 4000 of whom were
    children, and the Israeli government publicly bragging that they’ve barely
    gotten started.
    _______________


    10k killed of whom 4k are children are numbers from Al-Jazeera and the
    Palestinian Health Ministry. You'll excuse me if I don't believe it.

    I saw it reported on the Wall Street Journal the other day and the number
    has been endorsed by the UN and numerous other news outlets. I haven’t heard
    Israel deny it, and like I said, they keep bragging that they’re just
    getting started. When I see the photos of the seemingly endless destruction
    of obviously residential neighbourhoods I think I would have taken the over.
    But I realize it is a VERY inconvenient number for those who blindly and
    unconditionally support Israel’s war crimes, so you best just go with your
    feeeeewings. Much more comfortable that way.


    Israel tells them weeks in advance where they are bombing and to stay away
    or get bombed. Sounds like you've been snookered by Hamas propaganda.


    Check the per capita income in Gaza. Most people have no money and nowhere
    to go. There are children, elderly, infirm, and seriously ill. And don’t
    forget that Israel cut off food, water, medicine and fuel to Gaza from Day
    1. Ya, it’s not quite as simple as you make it out to be. I have seen the
    footage of residential areas being reduced to rubble and there are still
    LOTS of people there struggling to dig out the children and the babies. Oh
    ya, Hamas is also reportedly blocking the exit of civilians. It’s not a good
    human rights situation.

    And even if I believed your figures about QAnon supporters (which I don't,
    I
    have never met any conservatives among my friends or their friends who are
    "QAnon"; that's just more propaganda horseshit you believe for no reason,
    the vast majority of conservatives aren't kooks, they just want smaller
    government, less taxes, and for the U.S. to keep out of foreign wars/nation
    building in shithole countries that hate us),

    Well, I just googled “what percentage of Trump voters support QAnon, and
    every scientific poll I can find says I was pretty much bang-on. Give it a
    look and tell me what you find. And again, it might be more comfortable for
    you if you go with your feeeewings instead of the best data available.



    that doesn't explain all the
    liberal college kids fomenting support for Hamas and hatred of Jews.

    The college thing is disturbing. Those kids aren't QAnon kooks. They're
    your liberal kindred.

    You’re doing what Fox News does, namely making no attempt to quantify what
    percentage of those college protesters hate Jewish people and love Hamas
    and/or are committing what could be called hate crimes, and what I believe
    are the vast majority who are protesting Israel’s response to Hamas’ war
    crimes. After all, isn’t it natural to hold a modern, wealthy, technologically advanced county to a higher standard of human rights that
    you expect from a ragtag bunch of 6th century throwback terrorists? ____________________


    You and Tim Norfolk have this weird perspective that conservative college
    kids (is there even such a thing?) are the ones supporting Hamas and tearing
    down Missing posters. I guess if you want to believe that, you can.
    I didn’t say any such thing. My point was that those people represent a tiny minority of the college students protesting Israel’s war crimes, yet they are all lumped together when people say “look at all the anti-Jewish protests on college
    campuses.”
    I don't have a dog in this fight at all. I don't know any Palestinians, nor
    am I a Muslim, nor do I know any Jews, nor am I Jewish (I never even met a
    Jew until I got to law school). I can see how it is an insoluble situation.

    Leaving aside the religious aspects where both sides believe that God himself granted them the land at issue (which itself makes the situation
    insoluble), the 10/07 attack shows why there will never be peace there.
    Hamas is clearly a savage terrorist group. Comparisons to Nazis are cringe,
    but I think it's justified here. They present a problem much like the Nazis
    did, of an enemy unconstrained by any normal sense of morality and no limits
    on the depths of their depravity.

    So, they glide in and kill 1,400 Israelis. Israel has launched a savage
    response to this. Let's just assume that Israel's response is justified.
    That's the big debate at the moment, but let's just assume they are fully
    righteous in bombing Gaza and killing Palestinians in response.
    .
    .

    We can’t assume that because it’s simply not true. They are giving the finger to International
    Humanitarian Law and the laws of armed conflict.
    .

    Like us dropping the bomb on Hiroshima. "Military necessity." Unless you got a better way of
    stopping Hamas from launching missiles from next to a hospital.
    .
    .

    They are killing thousands of innocent people (about 40% of which are children), to get at a
    handful of Hamas fighters.
    .

    Like I say, you got a better way?
    .

    That does not meet the required standard of proportionality.
    .

    It doesn't have to.
    .

    It is collective punishment.
    .

    No, it's not. It's self-defense.
    .

    Documents have shown that Hamas planned the Oct7 attack for years..

    Give us a look, will ya?
    .
    and Israel never got a whiff of it. Yet a couple of weeks later they claim to know where Hamas
    fighters are in a maze of underground tunnels?
    Yea, because they have satellite photos of missile launchings and radio intercept translation.
    .
    That does not pass the smell test.
    They don't us smell.
    They are bombing Gaza indiscriminately and have expressed every intention of continuing to do so.
    No, they are not. They have more actual targets than missiles.
    .

    In reality, we see Palestinian parents pulling the bodies of their dead
    children from rubble, and their friends, family, etc. This righteous attack
    has engendered hundreds if not thousands of Palestinians who were not paragliders on 10/07, but who now are enraged with seething hate to kill as
    many Jews as they can. It is difficult to blame them even if I believe Israel is justified.

    So, the Palestinians will kill Jews again. Israel will respond again. There is a vicious cycle of hate that has been going on there for decades if
    not centuries and I do not see any solution at all. It is very sad for everyone involved.
    .
    I am not saying I see a solution either, but blatant war crimes
    .

    You mean Hamas war crimes? Because I haven't seen any Israel war crimes.
    .
    and the slaughter of tens of thousands of innocent civilians sure as hell isn’t it. These actions
    are entirely self-defeating and ill-conceived.
    .

    Really? Seems to be doing the job.
    .

    They have guaranteed generations of terrorist attacks (or worse) with the conduct of this war.
    "Guaranteed generations of terrorist attacks" is why Israel is fighting back.
    .

    They might not be called “Hamas” (which Israel seems obsessed with)
    .

    "Obsessed with?" Who do you think is attacking Israel? Who do you think Israel should respond to?
    .
    but they will be at least as deadly and persistent, and probably much more so.
    .

    Some of the staunchest Israel supporting states on the planet are now saying to them (in so many words), “Guys, uh, what the fuck are you doing? You are making US look bad for supporting you.” Israel needs to target Hamas directly and it’s a
    target rich environment.
    Then they’re uninformed ‘supporting states.’ (Did you forget to list them?)

    Did they explain ‘how’ they’re “making US look bad for supporting you?”

    What made them think Hamas was NOT being targeted directly? Just waste $400,000 missiles on an ambulance, or a kids school? To what end? They are targeting Hamas Command & Control Centers, they’ve triangulated the signals as the intercepted them. They
    target missile sites by satellite coordinates. That’s no “directly” enough?
    .
    You can’t just bomb a hospital or a refugee camp because you think Hamas might have an office in a
    tunnel under it.

    Why not? What do you suggest they bomb?
    .


    And have you not seen the drone footage of miles and miles of residential buildings bombed out? It’s sick.

    Yea, Tunnels and Command Centers. Did you see videos Hamas took of themselves slaughtering women, children, babies. That’s stick too, right?
    .
    .

    Where are civilians going to live after the current hostilities subside?

    Where should they live?
    .

    Israel has a sizeable and well trained military. They should be able to take care of Hamas without
    killing tens of thousands of vulnerable and totally innocent civilians.
    .

    Really? I didn’t know you had battlefield experience. Perhaps you should contact them and offer your
    expertise. Or tell them how their doing it wrong now. (You might hurry, Israeli soldiers are dying going
    into that hospital, rather than just bomb it. Just to save the kids you say they want to kill…
    .
    .
    .


    In fact, it should have been taken care of long before the October 7 attack.

    Attack the Hospital?

    It’s clear that Israel does not have nearly enough intelligence assets on the ground in Gaza and
    the West Bank. If they did they could easily pick off Hamas leaders one by one with a bare minimum
    of civilian casualties.
    .

    Yea, you should definitely contact them and offer to teach at their war collage…
    .
    .

    As it stands, Palestinian civilians are paying the price for Israel's negligence and incompetence
    .

    Another list you can’t post? How Israels’ negligence and incompetence in making Palestinians pay.
    Post that here, too, will ya?
    .
    .

    Israel is not helping itself by making its closest allies question if publicly backing them is really in their own best interests.

    Israel is MAKING allies question them? Or are you…

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