• After getting crushed recently, Gold rises

    From Paul Popinjay@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 9 12:51:47 2023
    Due to the War in Israel.

    Does that mean you should BUY now?

    By the way, I have a question. Why after all these years is there still turmoil surrounding Israel? One would think, that after Israel kicked everyone's asses in 6 days back whenever, you'd think they would leave Israel alone now. You'd think they
    would have learned their lesson.

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to paulpopinjay@sbcglobal.net on Mon Oct 9 20:23:05 2023
    Paul Popinjay <paulpopinjay@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
    ...
    By the way, I have a question. Why after all these years is there still >turmoil surrounding Israel? One would think, that after Israel kicked >everyone's asses in 6 days back whenever, you'd think they would leave
    Israel alone now. You'd think they would have learned their lesson.

    Answer from Israel:
    |
    | Netanyahu bears responsibility for this Israel-Gaza war
    |
    | The disaster that befell Israel on the holiday of Simchat
    | Torah is the clear responsibility of one person: Benjamin
    | Netanyahu. The prime minister, who has prided himself on
    | his vast political experience and irreplaceable wisdom in
    | security matters, completely failed to identify the dangers
    | he was consciously leading Israel into when establishing a
    | government of annexation and dispossession, when appointing
    | Bezalel Smotrich and Itamar Ben-Gvir to key positions,
    | while embracing a foreign policy that openly ignored the
    | existence and rights of Palestinians.
    | ... <https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/editorial/2023-10-08/ty-article-opinion/netanyahu-bears-responsibility/0000018b-0b9d-d8fc-adff-6bfd1c880000>

    --bks

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  • From jack roth@21:1/5 to Paul Popinjay on Mon Oct 9 14:40:55 2023
    On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 12:51:51 PM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    Due to the War in Israel.

    Does that mean you should BUY now?

    By the way, I have a question. Why after all these years is there still turmoil surrounding Israel? One would think, that after Israel kicked everyone's asses in 6 days back whenever, you'd think they would leave Israel alone now. You'd think they
    would have learned their lesson.

    Think is Israel doesn't leave them alone. 1. Israel supplies weapons to rebels in Syria. 2. Syria regularly launches air attacks on Syria INCLUDING civilian infrastructure. 3. Israel treats the people native to the country they took over as second
    class citizens. 4. Lately, Israel has been particularly brutal for no reason at all...probably leading to this attack.

    Having said that, this exact area has been in turmoil for many thousands of years as there have been competing social groups as far back as humans fighting neanderthals. Also, you have religion on all sides goading this shit.

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  • From Grunty@21:1/5 to jack roth on Mon Oct 9 16:45:02 2023
    On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 6:40:59 PM UTC-3, jack roth wrote:
    2. Syria regularly launches air attacks on Syria
    Stupid Syrians.

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  • From Paul Popinjay@21:1/5 to jack roth on Mon Oct 9 18:59:29 2023
    On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 2:40:59 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:

    Think is Israel doesn't leave them alone. 1. Israel supplies weapons to rebels in Syria. 2. Syria regularly launches air attacks on Syria INCLUDING civilian infrastructure. 3. Israel treats the people native to the country they took over as second
    class citizens. 4. Lately, Israel has been particularly brutal for no reason at all...probably leading to this attack.

    Having said that, this exact area has been in turmoil for many thousands of years as there have been competing social groups as far back as humans fighting neanderthals. Also, you have religion on all sides goading this shit.


    I still don't get it. Israel kicked their ass in the 6-day War. Israel can STILL kick their ass in 6 days. They can't beat Israel. So why don't they just knock this shit off.

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  • From Tim Norfolk@21:1/5 to Paul Popinjay on Mon Oct 9 19:42:01 2023
    On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 9:59:33 PM UTC-4, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 2:40:59 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:

    Think is Israel doesn't leave them alone. 1. Israel supplies weapons to rebels in Syria. 2. Syria regularly launches air attacks on Syria INCLUDING civilian infrastructure. 3. Israel treats the people native to the country they took over as second
    class citizens. 4. Lately, Israel has been particularly brutal for no reason at all...probably leading to this attack.

    Having said that, this exact area has been in turmoil for many thousands of years as there have been competing social groups as far back as humans fighting neanderthals. Also, you have religion on all sides goading this shit.
    I still don't get it. Israel kicked their ass in the 6-day War. Israel can STILL kick their ass in 6 days. They can't beat Israel. So why don't they just knock this shit off.

    Because they are religious loonies

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  • From jack roth@21:1/5 to Grunty on Mon Oct 9 20:26:25 2023
    On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 4:45:06 PM UTC-7, Grunty wrote:
    On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 6:40:59 PM UTC-3, jack roth wrote:
    2. Syria regularly launches air attacks on Syria
    Stupid Syrians.

    ya, I misspelled Israel, you know what I meant.

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  • From jack roth@21:1/5 to Paul Popinjay on Mon Oct 9 20:28:00 2023
    On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 6:59:33 PM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 2:40:59 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:

    Think is Israel doesn't leave them alone. 1. Israel supplies weapons to rebels in Syria. 2. Syria regularly launches air attacks on Syria INCLUDING civilian infrastructure. 3. Israel treats the people native to the country they took over as second
    class citizens. 4. Lately, Israel has been particularly brutal for no reason at all...probably leading to this attack.

    Having said that, this exact area has been in turmoil for many thousands of years as there have been competing social groups as far back as humans fighting neanderthals. Also, you have religion on all sides goading this shit.
    I still don't get it. Israel kicked their ass in the 6-day War. Israel can STILL kick their ass in 6 days. They can't beat Israel. So why don't they just knock this shit off.

    Getting martyred gets you 72 virgins. Ya, I don't get it either. Who the fuck wants to deal with 72 women every day.

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  • From Paul Popinjay@21:1/5 to Tim Norfolk on Mon Oct 9 21:40:29 2023
    On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 7:42:06 PM UTC-7, Tim Norfolk wrote:

    Because they are religious loonies

    They are not religious loonies, they are leftwing maniacs. In other words, they are on the same side as you are. Are you a religious loonie? I am quite sure you do not consider yourself a religious looney. You are a leftist, which I am sure you have
    no trouble admitting to. You choose the Left side on every issue. You are a leftist. Ain't that right? It's got nothing to do with religion. It has everything to do with being on the wrong side, that's what the Left is all about. You can't even get
    that right.

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  • From Grunty@21:1/5 to Paul Popinjay on Tue Oct 10 00:03:48 2023
    On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 10:59:33 PM UTC-3, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 2:40:59 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:

    Think is Israel doesn't leave them alone. 1. Israel supplies weapons to rebels in Syria. 2. Syria regularly launches air attacks on Syria INCLUDING civilian infrastructure. 3. Israel treats the people native to the country they took over as second
    class citizens. 4. Lately, Israel has been particularly brutal for no reason at all...probably leading to this attack.

    Having said that, this exact area has been in turmoil for many thousands of years as there have been competing social groups as far back as humans fighting neanderthals. Also, you have religion on all sides goading this shit.
    I still don't get it. Israel kicked their ass in the 6-day War. Israel can STILL kick their ass in 6 days. They can't beat Israel. So why don't they just knock this shit off.

    In the 60s the state of Israel still relied on an extended network of kibutzes (collective farms) which performed the role of an occupation and vigilance forces on the borders.
    No way they could be stormed by surprise. No need to call reservists, as they were always immediately available on the ground.

    Today most kibutzes are long gone, thanks to the capitalist development. Today's border people are basically trained to run & hide (to borrow someone's phrase) when the alarms go off. Bourgeois people rather than peasants/farmers.
    These people don't need to seize the land, land is a gift from the government. They didn't have to endure the effort and pay the price.
    The other side smelled that weakness, unpreparedness.

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  • From da pickle@21:1/5 to Paul Popinjay on Tue Oct 10 08:45:22 2023
    On 10/9/2023 11:40 PM, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 7:42:06 PM UTC-7, Tim Norfolk wrote:

    Because they are religious loonies

    They are not religious loonies, they are leftwing maniacs. In other words, they are on the same side as you are. Are you a religious loonie? I am quite sure you do not consider yourself a religious looney. You are a leftist, which I am sure you
    have no trouble admitting to. You choose the Left side on every issue. You are a leftist. Ain't that right? It's got nothing to do with religion. It has everything to do with being on the wrong side, that's what the Left is all about. You can't
    even get that right.

    Watching News Mix I am able to watch CNN BBC Fox and MSNBC all at the
    same time. At the moment, there is a "live" broadcast on all three of
    the missing families speaking out. Most interesting is that only Fox is actually "live" and the other three are delayed a little ... not sure of
    the reason and the delay is not too long, but interesting. MSNBC is the
    only one that stopped the live broadcast and went back to their own
    opinions. MSNBC has been the most unusual and more like what Paul is
    saying. They seem to be blaming Israel a little and not the Hamas et al "group" that seem bound and determined to attempt to do "something" ...
    it is not a good time. They are not very clear in placing blame.

    My wife and I were in Israel last year and it was a lovely visit, but
    there was a "warning" out from the State Department. Many, many years
    ago, my former wife and daughter and son visited Israel and did
    archeology work for Baylor ... time in Egypt Jordan too ... it was a
    much better time. I was in the Air Force in 73 and wondered then why
    what happened happened. I hope it comes to a conclusion soon ... hope
    springs eternal.

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  • From Tim Norfolk@21:1/5 to Paul Popinjay on Tue Oct 10 09:31:26 2023
    On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 12:40:34 AM UTC-4, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 7:42:06 PM UTC-7, Tim Norfolk wrote:

    Because they are religious loonies
    They are not religious loonies, they are leftwing maniacs. In other words, they are on the same side as you are. Are you a religious loonie? I am quite sure you do not consider yourself a religious looney. You are a leftist, which I am sure you have no
    trouble admitting to. You choose the Left side on every issue. You are a leftist. Ain't that right? It's got nothing to do with religion. It has everything to do with being on the wrong side, that's what the Left is all about. You can't even get that
    right.

    How in the world do you get leftist out of Hamas? They are classic authoritarian right wing.

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  • From da pickle@21:1/5 to Tim Norfolk on Tue Oct 10 12:42:38 2023
    On 10/10/2023 11:31 AM, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 12:40:34 AM UTC-4, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 7:42:06 PM UTC-7, Tim Norfolk wrote:

    Because they are religious loonies
    They are not religious loonies, they are leftwing maniacs. In other words, they are on the same side as you are. Are you a religious loonie? I am quite sure you do not consider yourself a religious looney. You are a leftist, which I am sure you have
    no trouble admitting to. You choose the Left side on every issue. You are a leftist. Ain't that right? It's got nothing to do with religion. It has everything to do with being on the wrong side, that's what the Left is all about. You can't even get that
    right.

    How in the world do you get leftist out of Hamas? They are classic authoritarian right wing.


    Socialist - Capitalist

    Communist - Fascist

    Left - Right

    Others if you need them

    Often the "right wing" is right about a lot more than the "left wing" is
    wrong about. Words ... who needs them?





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  • From jack roth@21:1/5 to Tim Norfolk on Tue Oct 10 11:33:12 2023
    On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 9:31:31 AM UTC-7, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 12:40:34 AM UTC-4, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 7:42:06 PM UTC-7, Tim Norfolk wrote:

    Because they are religious loonies
    They are not religious loonies, they are leftwing maniacs. In other words, they are on the same side as you are. Are you a religious loonie? I am quite sure you do not consider yourself a religious looney. You are a leftist, which I am sure you have
    no trouble admitting to. You choose the Left side on every issue. You are a leftist. Ain't that right? It's got nothing to do with religion. It has everything to do with being on the wrong side, that's what the Left is all about. You can't even get that
    right.
    How in the world do you get leftist out of Hamas? They are classic authoritarian right wing.

    That's a very ancient way of viewing politics. Communists and fascists and democrats have a lot in common...they are essentially both socialists and they all think government should have its hands in everything. You'll notice all the authoritarians
    now are on the left side or the Deep staters in both parties. The Trump team is the exact opposite....and that's specifically why I'll vote for Trump again...depending on where RFK JR is. I am dismayed that everyone is obsessing on Israel....as if
    they are going to let those 1000 lives cause WW3. Nobody let the millions of muslims lives cause WW3, but now you have sides forming very quickly.

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  • From Tim Norfolk@21:1/5 to jack roth on Tue Oct 10 11:38:45 2023
    On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 2:33:17 PM UTC-4, jack roth wrote:
    On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 9:31:31 AM UTC-7, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 12:40:34 AM UTC-4, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 7:42:06 PM UTC-7, Tim Norfolk wrote:

    Because they are religious loonies
    They are not religious loonies, they are leftwing maniacs. In other words, they are on the same side as you are. Are you a religious loonie? I am quite sure you do not consider yourself a religious looney. You are a leftist, which I am sure you
    have no trouble admitting to. You choose the Left side on every issue. You are a leftist. Ain't that right? It's got nothing to do with religion. It has everything to do with being on the wrong side, that's what the Left is all about. You can't even get
    that right.
    How in the world do you get leftist out of Hamas? They are classic authoritarian right wing.
    That's a very ancient way of viewing politics. Communists and fascists and democrats have a lot in common...they are essentially both socialists and they all think government should have its hands in everything. You'll notice all the authoritarians now
    are on the left side or the Deep staters in both parties. The Trump team is the exact opposite....and that's specifically why I'll vote for Trump again...depending on where RFK JR is. I am dismayed that everyone is obsessing on Israel....as if they are
    going to let those 1000 lives cause WW3. Nobody let the millions of muslims lives cause WW3, but now you have sides forming very quickly.

    Then I guess that you didn't see what actually happened in the previous Trump administration, and the plans that they have announced to completely subvert the government if they win.

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to Paul Popinjay on Tue Oct 10 11:52:54 2023
    On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 6:59:33 PM UTC-7, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 2:40:59 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:

    Think is Israel doesn't leave them alone. 1. Israel supplies weapons to rebels in Syria. 2. Syria regularly launches air attacks on Syria INCLUDING civilian infrastructure. 3. Israel treats the people native to the country they took over as second
    class citizens. 4. Lately, Israel has been particularly brutal for no reason at all...probably leading to this attack.

    Having said that, this exact area has been in turmoil for many thousands of years as there have been competing social groups as far back as humans fighting neanderthals. Also, you have religion on all sides goading this shit.
    I still don't get it. Israel kicked their ass in the 6-day War. Israel can STILL kick their ass in 6 days. They can't beat Israel. So why don't they just knock this shit off.
    .

    Because commie loving Trump made it possible for Iran to make a nuclear bomb to blow up Israel.

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to Tim Norfolk on Tue Oct 10 11:54:44 2023
    On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 7:42:06 PM UTC-7, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 9:59:33 PM UTC-4, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 2:40:59 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:

    Think is Israel doesn't leave them alone. 1. Israel supplies weapons to rebels in Syria. 2. Syria regularly launches air attacks on Syria INCLUDING civilian infrastructure. 3. Israel treats the people native to the country they took over as second
    class citizens. 4. Lately, Israel has been particularly brutal for no reason at all...probably leading to this attack.

    Having said that, this exact area has been in turmoil for many thousands of years as there have been competing social groups as far back as humans fighting neanderthals. Also, you have religion on all sides goading this shit.
    I still don't get it. Israel kicked their ass in the 6-day War. Israel can STILL kick their ass in 6 days. They can't beat Israel. So why don't they just knock this shit off.
    Because they are religious loonies
    .

    You'll have to be a little clearer on that. The majority of us think any religious belief is loonie.

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  • From Paul Popinjay@21:1/5 to Tim Norfolk on Tue Oct 10 19:00:08 2023
    On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 9:31:31 AM UTC-7, Tim Norfolk wrote:

    How in the world do you get leftist out of Hamas? They are classic authoritarian right wing.


    ha ha ha, you are a stupid mutherfucker, honestly, I have no respect for such an ignoramus. you're pathetic.

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  • From da pickle@21:1/5 to Paul Popinjay on Wed Oct 11 11:37:26 2023
    On 10/10/2023 9:00 PM, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 9:31:31 AM UTC-7, Tim Norfolk wrote:

    How in the world do you get leftist out of Hamas? They are classic authoritarian right wing.


    ha ha ha, you are a stupid mutherfucker, honestly, I have no respect for such an ignoramus. you're pathetic.

    BLM has decided to support Hamas ... they are now a "brotherhood" ...
    Tim reveals himself as the racist he is along with other "leftist"
    "racists" ... but those are just "words" ... he gets to have his own
    private definitions.

    The "left" and the "right" have their individual folks that do not need
    to be listened to ... Blab ... Time ... Jerry fall into that category. Unfortunately, they have killed this group.

    Anyone want to speak about poker or at least wonder if our country can
    survive the divisions and the one sided "solutions"?

    I hope for a return to democracy ... states rights ... less federal
    control ... more individual ability to be in the location that suits
    their ideas and not be controlled "completely" by "one group" that has
    the "truth" and the "answers" to all the "questions".

    All empires fail ... is ours on the edge or will we live on for a while?

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to da pickle on Wed Oct 11 11:09:29 2023
    On Wednesday, October 11, 2023 at 9:37:59 AM UTC-7, da pickle wrote:
    On 10/10/2023 9:00 PM, Paul Popinjay wrote:
    On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 9:31:31 AM UTC-7, Tim Norfolk wrote:

    How in the world do you get leftist out of Hamas? They are classic authoritarian right wing.


    ha ha ha, you are a stupid mutherfucker, honestly, I have no respect for such an ignoramus. you're pathetic.
    BLM has decided to support Hamas ... they are now a "brotherhood" ...
    Tim reveals himself as the racist he is along with other "leftist"
    "racists" ... but those are just "words" ... he gets to have his own
    private definitions.

    The "left" and the "right" have their individual folks that do not need
    to be listened to ... Blab ... Time ... Jerry fall into that category.
    .
    _____________________ ****

    Is your face STILL stinging? Did I bitch slap you THAT badly?

    Wow! I cornered you so badly you're still, *** No Reply Noted ***

    You only re-embarrass yourself by continually bringing it up...

    _________________*** LOL! ***
    .

    .
    .
    .
    .
    .

    Unfortunately, they have killed this group.

    Anyone want to speak about poker or at least wonder if our country can survive the divisions and the one sided "solutions"?

    I hope for a return to democracy ... states rights ... less federal
    control ... more individual ability to be in the location that suits
    their ideas and not be controlled "completely" by "one group" that has
    the "truth" and the "answers" to all the "questions".

    All empires fail ... is ours on the edge or will we live on for a while?

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