• Kyiv calling ..

    From risky biz@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 4 21:16:02 2023
    https://youtu.be/RwKIny3n0p4?t=50

    'Pro-Kremlin TV host Olga Skabeeva warned viewers to "get used" to seeing attacks inside Russia after dozens of missiles reportedly struck the country's Belgorod region last week as Ukrainian forces are preparing to launch a major counteroffensive.'
    https://www.newsweek.com/pro-kremlin-tv-host-warns-viewers-get-used-attacks-inside-russia-1804355

    “We are at a turning point right now,” said Oleg, a businessperson in the city [Belgorod, Russia]. “When this all started,” he said, referring to the war, “the people who opposed it here were a minority. Now, after four days of being shelled,
    people are changing their minds.” https://news.yahoo.com/everything-changed-war-arrives-russians-141153997.html

    'Russia’s defence ministry claimed on Monday that Ukraine had launched a “major” attack in the Donetsk region, the Russian state news agency Tass reported. The ministry said Ukraine had launched the attack using six mechanised and two tank
    battalions but that Russian forces had thwarted it. It is not yet possible to confirm Russia’s claim, and the Ukrainian side has not yet responded. Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelenskiy had said in an interview published on Saturday that Ukraine was
    ready to launch its long-awaited counteroffensive to recapture Russian-occupied territory. “We strongly believe that we will succeed.”

    The Russian defence ministry has said its forces have used artillery to repel a cross-border incursion by Ukrainian saboteurs, Interfax news agency reported. The governor of Russia’s Belgorod region said earlier on Sunday that fighting with a “
    Ukrainian saboteur group” was taking place in the town of Novaya Tavolzhanka, near the Ukrainian border.

    The governor of Russia’s Belgorod region, Vyacheslav Gladkov, has said he is willing to meet a pro-Ukraine group of Russian fighters keeping two Russian soldiers captive. The group said earlier it was willing to hand over the soldiers in exchange for a
    meeting with the governor.

    Ukrainian forces have shelled a market area in the town of Shebekino, near the Ukrainian border, according to Gladkov. He said no one was injured but the attack had caused fires to break out near the market, a private area and a grain depot.'
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jun/05/russia-ukraine-war-at-a-glance-what-we-know-on-day-467-of-the-invasion

    'Belgorod Governor Vyacheslav Gladkov wrote in a Telegram post on Friday that roughly 850 missiles and other projectiles struck Shebekino, a district in the region near Russia's border with Ukraine.

    The attacks injured 16 people and killed two women from the village of Maslova Pristan, according to the governor.'
    https://www.newsweek.com/pro-kremlin-tv-host-warns-viewers-get-used-attacks-inside-russia-1804355

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  • From jack roth@21:1/5 to risky biz on Sun Jun 4 23:04:31 2023
    On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 9:16:07 PM UTC-7, risky biz wrote:
    https://youtu.be/RwKIny3n0p4?t=50

    'Pro-Kremlin TV host Olga Skabeeva warned viewers to "get used" to seeing attacks inside Russia after dozens of missiles reportedly struck the country's Belgorod region last week as Ukrainian forces are preparing to launch a major counteroffensive.'
    https://www.newsweek.com/pro-kremlin-tv-host-warns-viewers-get-used-attacks-inside-russia-1804355

    You mean those tiny little itsy bitsy cheap drone charges that don't even do any damage? Ya, I heard they broke a window. Maybe you missed out on the 350K ukranian soldiers who are dead.


    “We are at a turning point right now,” said Oleg, a businessperson in the city [Belgorod, Russia]. “When this all started,” he said, referring to the war, “the people who opposed it here were a minority. Now, after four days of being shelled,
    people are changing their minds.”
    https://news.yahoo.com/everything-changed-war-arrives-russians-141153997.html


    Some cheap ass stunt is more of a signal to the end of the fight....sorta like General Lee invaded Pennsylvania and then got his ass handed to him at Gettysburg. It was all downhill after that. This stupid puny attack ionside russia is meaningless

    'Russia’s defence ministry claimed on Monday that Ukraine had launched a “major” attack in the Donetsk region, the Russian state news agency Tass reported. The ministry said Ukraine had launched the attack using six mechanised and two tank
    battalions but that Russian forces had thwarted it. It is not yet possible to confirm Russia’s claim, and the Ukrainian side has not yet responded. Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelenskiy had said in an interview published on Saturday that Ukraine was
    ready to launch its long-awaited counteroffensive to recapture Russian-occupied territory. “We strongly believe that we will succeed.”

    Ya, that lasted for a couple hours. 250 dead ukrainians, 16 ukrianian tanks lost, 24 ukrainian fighting vehicles lost. Turned tail and ran.

    The Russian defence ministry has said its forces have used artillery to repel a cross-border incursion by Ukrainian saboteurs, Interfax news agency reported. The governor of Russia’s Belgorod region said earlier on Sunday that fighting with a “
    Ukrainian saboteur group” was taking place in the town of Novaya Tavolzhanka, near the Ukrainian border.

    The governor of Russia’s Belgorod region, Vyacheslav Gladkov, has said he is willing to meet a pro-Ukraine group of Russian fighters keeping two Russian soldiers captive. The group said earlier it was willing to hand over the soldiers in exchange for
    a meeting with the governor.

    Wow...they kidnapped two men. Meanwhile ukrainians dead everywhere.

    Ukrainian forces have shelled a market area in the town of Shebekino, near the Ukrainian border, according to Gladkov. He said no one was injured but the attack had caused fires to break out near the market, a private area and a grain depot.'
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jun/05/russia-ukraine-war-at-a-glance-what-we-know-on-day-467-of-the-invasion

    'Belgorod Governor Vyacheslav Gladkov wrote in a Telegram post on Friday that roughly 850 missiles and other projectiles struck Shebekino, a district in the region near Russia's border with Ukraine.

    Ya know, when I throw a pebble, technically, that's a missile, too. Russia brings down countless ukrainian drones daily....so what.


    The attacks injured 16 people and killed two women from the village of Maslova Pristan, according to the governor.'
    https://www.newsweek.com/pro-kremlin-tv-host-warns-viewers-get-used-attacks-inside-russia-1804355

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  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 4 23:57:32 2023
    ~ On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 11:04:35 PM UTC-7, jack 'Baghdad Bob' roth wrote:

    <fairy tales>


    Reality:
    97% of the Russian army is already in or on the borders of Ukraine.

    The Russian army has already lost a significant number of its best soldiers, many of them in the first two weeks of the invasion.

    Russia's vaunted hypersonic missiles and 'most impenetrable air defenses in the world' have been proven by Ukraine to be inadequate.

    Russia has lost so many of its best tanks they have had to bring their old tanks out of mothballs and the old tanks will be destroyed even faster than the new ones were.

    About 600,000 - 700,000 Russians fled conscription and took $15 BILLION with them.

    The Russian economy is cratering and Putin has been reduced to shining Xi Jin Ping's shoes.

    The world's democracies can easily produce 10X as much military equipment and supplies as Russia and China combined.

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  • From jack roth@21:1/5 to risky biz on Mon Jun 5 05:55:52 2023
    On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 11:57:36 PM UTC-7, risky biz wrote:
    ~ On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 11:04:35 PM UTC-7, jack 'Baghdad Bob' roth wrote:

    <fairy tales>


    Reality:
    97% of the Russian army is already in or on the borders of Ukraine.

    The Russian army has already lost a significant number of its best soldiers, many of them in the first two weeks of the invasion.

    Russia's vaunted hypersonic missiles and 'most impenetrable air defenses in the world' have been proven by Ukraine to be inadequate.

    Russia has lost so many of its best tanks they have had to bring their old tanks out of mothballs and the old tanks will be destroyed even faster than the new ones were.

    About 600,000 - 700,000 Russians fled conscription and took $15 BILLION with them.

    The Russian economy is cratering and Putin has been reduced to shining Xi Jin Ping's shoes.

    The world's democracies can easily produce 10X as much military equipment and supplies as Russia and China combined.

    Here's just how clueless you are Risky, you moron. Russia has immense nuke proof bunkers. They can hold out and survive a nuclear war. The USA only has bunkers for the elite and top level govt staff. The population is toast if we get nuked. And,
    when it's all over, Russia still has the worlds biggest supply of commodities, oil, farmland.....they'll be fine. We'll be toast.

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  • From jack roth@21:1/5 to risky biz on Mon Jun 5 05:52:58 2023
    On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 11:57:36 PM UTC-7, risky biz wrote:
    ~ On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 11:04:35 PM UTC-7, jack 'Baghdad Bob' roth wrote:

    <fairy tales>


    Reality:
    97% of the Russian army is already in or on the borders of Ukraine.

    Talk about fairy tales. You really believe the nonsense the Deep State is feeding you?

    The Russian army has already lost a significant number of its best soldiers, many of them in the first two weeks of the invasion.

    By "best" soldiers, you mean the prisoners wagner used to destroy Ukrainian armies that were armed and trained by Nato for 8 years?


    Russia's vaunted hypersonic missiles and 'most impenetrable air defenses in the world' have been proven by Ukraine to be inadequate.

    LOL...I saw pictures of the wreckage moron....even Ukrainians own reports admit they never touched a hypersonic missile. There IS ZERO defense against a hypersonic missile.


    Russia has lost so many of its best tanks they have had to bring their old tanks out of mothballs and the old tanks will be destroyed even faster than the new ones were.

    WTF are you smoking, seriously. The old tanks have been the only thing they've been sending and they have like an unlimited supply of them.


    About 600,000 - 700,000 Russians fled conscription and took $15 BILLION with them.

    You mean 6,000-7,000 russians. As opposed to the many millions of Ukrainians that ran away.


    The Russian economy is cratering and Putin has been reduced to shining Xi Jin Ping's shoes.

    How stupid do you have to believe to even think this? The West is the only ones suffering from sanctions. Russia has been making complete bank


    The world's democracies can easily produce 10X as much military equipment and supplies as Russia and China combined.

    LOL you are a fool if you think this. Europe essentially has no armaments industry because the US protected them with Nato. The USA exported it's manufacturing and knowledge to China for many years now and it'd take us years and more money than we can
    print to bring anything back....and oh by the way....who are you gonna fill those jobs with? The US only produces overly expensive shit that doesn't work in anything but perfect conditions with proceeds all meant to line people's pockets. Russia
    builds shit that works in any condition, builds it cheap, and builds an infinite supply of the shit. And, worst case scenario, they'll nuke the fuck out of the entire west and that means you and me.
    And, for what....what exactly are we even doing fucking with Russia?

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  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to jack roth on Mon Jun 5 10:00:05 2023
    On Monday, June 5, 2023 at 5:53:02 AM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 11:57:36 PM UTC-7, risky biz wrote:
    ~ On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 11:04:35 PM UTC-7, jack 'Baghdad Bob' roth wrote:

    <fairy tales>


    Reality:
    97% of the Russian army is already in or on the borders of Ukraine.
    Talk about fairy tales. You really believe the nonsense the Deep State is feeding you?

    The Russian army has already lost a significant number of its best soldiers, many of them in the first two weeks of the invasion.
    By "best" soldiers, you mean the prisoners wagner used to destroy Ukrainian armies that were armed and trained by Nato for 8 years?

    Russia's vaunted hypersonic missiles and 'most impenetrable air defenses in the world' have been proven by Ukraine to be inadequate.
    LOL...I saw pictures of the wreckage moron....even Ukrainians own reports admit they never touched a hypersonic missile. There IS ZERO defense against a hypersonic missile.

    Russia has lost so many of its best tanks they have had to bring their old tanks out of mothballs and the old tanks will be destroyed even faster than the new ones were.
    WTF are you smoking, seriously. The old tanks have been the only thing they've been sending and they have like an unlimited supply of them.

    About 600,000 - 700,000 Russians fled conscription and took $15 BILLION with them.
    You mean 6,000-7,000 russians. As opposed to the many millions of Ukrainians that ran away.

    The Russian economy is cratering and Putin has been reduced to shining Xi Jin Ping's shoes.
    How stupid do you have to believe to even think this? The West is the only ones suffering from sanctions. Russia has been making complete bank

    The world's democracies can easily produce 10X as much military equipment and supplies as Russia and China combined.
    LOL you are a fool if you think this. Europe essentially has no armaments industry because the US protected them with Nato. The USA exported it's manufacturing and knowledge to China for many years now and it'd take us years and more money than we can
    print to bring anything back....and oh by the way....who are you gonna fill those jobs with? The US only produces overly expensive shit that doesn't work in anything but perfect conditions with proceeds all meant to line people's pockets. Russia builds
    shit that works in any condition, builds it cheap, and builds an infinite supply of the shit. And, worst case scenario, they'll nuke the fuck out of the entire west and that means you and me.
    And, for what....what exactly are we even doing fucking with Russia?


    Just make shit up as you traipse along, Maverick. LOL. What a clown.

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  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to jack roth on Mon Jun 5 10:02:31 2023
    On Monday, June 5, 2023 at 5:55:56 AM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 11:57:36 PM UTC-7, risky biz wrote:
    ~ On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 11:04:35 PM UTC-7, jack 'Baghdad Bob' roth wrote:

    <fairy tales>


    Reality:
    97% of the Russian army is already in or on the borders of Ukraine.

    The Russian army has already lost a significant number of its best soldiers, many of them in the first two weeks of the invasion.

    Russia's vaunted hypersonic missiles and 'most impenetrable air defenses in the world' have been proven by Ukraine to be inadequate.

    Russia has lost so many of its best tanks they have had to bring their old tanks out of mothballs and the old tanks will be destroyed even faster than the new ones were.

    About 600,000 - 700,000 Russians fled conscription and took $15 BILLION with them.

    The Russian economy is cratering and Putin has been reduced to shining Xi Jin Ping's shoes.

    The world's democracies can easily produce 10X as much military equipment and supplies as Russia and China combined.
    Here's just how clueless you are Risky, you moron. Russia has immense nuke proof bunkers. They can hold out and survive a nuclear war. The USA only has bunkers for the elite and top level govt staff. The population is toast if we get nuked. And, when
    it's all over, Russia still has the worlds biggest supply of commodities, oil, farmland.....they'll be fine. We'll be toast.


    Maverick went nuclear. LOL. Why? Because everything I said about the Russian army is true. And there's plenty more I haven't mentioned.

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  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to risky biz on Mon Jun 5 10:35:26 2023
    On Monday, June 5, 2023 at 10:02:36 AM UTC-7, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, June 5, 2023 at 5:55:56 AM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 11:57:36 PM UTC-7, risky biz wrote:
    ~ On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 11:04:35 PM UTC-7, jack 'Baghdad Bob' roth wrote:

    <fairy tales>


    Reality:
    97% of the Russian army is already in or on the borders of Ukraine.

    The Russian army has already lost a significant number of its best soldiers, many of them in the first two weeks of the invasion.

    Russia's vaunted hypersonic missiles and 'most impenetrable air defenses in the world' have been proven by Ukraine to be inadequate.

    Russia has lost so many of its best tanks they have had to bring their old tanks out of mothballs and the old tanks will be destroyed even faster than the new ones were.

    About 600,000 - 700,000 Russians fled conscription and took $15 BILLION with them.

    The Russian economy is cratering and Putin has been reduced to shining Xi Jin Ping's shoes.

    The world's democracies can easily produce 10X as much military equipment and supplies as Russia and China combined.
    Here's just how clueless you are Risky, you moron. Russia has immense nuke proof bunkers. They can hold out and survive a nuclear war. The USA only has bunkers for the elite and top level govt staff. The population is toast if we get nuked. And, when
    it's all over, Russia still has the worlds biggest supply of commodities, oil, farmland.....they'll be fine. We'll be toast.


    ~ Maverick went nuclear. LOL. Why? Because everything I said about the Russian army is true. And there's plenty more I haven't mentioned.


    Like morale, for example:

    'Prigozhin's private Wagner militia captured Bakhmut last month after the longest battle of the war and handed its positions there to regular Russian troops. Since then, Ukraine has continued to attack areas north and south of the city.

    "Now part of the settlement of Berkhivka has already been lost, the troops are quietly running away. Disgrace!" Prigozhin said in an audio message published by his press service.'

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  • From BTSinAustin@21:1/5 to risky biz on Mon Jun 5 11:18:21 2023
    On Monday, June 5, 2023 at 2:57:36 AM UTC-4, risky biz wrote:


    The world's democracies can easily produce 10X as much military equipment and supplies as Russia and China combined.

    Too bad the world's democracies do not pay for them, we do

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to risky biz on Mon Jun 5 11:23:31 2023
    On Monday, June 5, 2023 at 10:00:10 AM UTC-7, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, June 5, 2023 at 5:53:02 AM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
    On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 11:57:36 PM UTC-7, risky biz wrote:
    ~ On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 11:04:35 PM UTC-7, jack 'Baghdad Bob' roth wrote:

    <fairy tales>


    Reality:
    97% of the Russian army is already in or on the borders of Ukraine.
    Talk about fairy tales. You really believe the nonsense the Deep State is feeding you?

    The Russian army has already lost a significant number of its best soldiers, many of them in the first two weeks of the invasion.
    By "best" soldiers, you mean the prisoners wagner used to destroy Ukrainian armies that were armed and trained by Nato for 8 years?

    Russia's vaunted hypersonic missiles and 'most impenetrable air defenses in the world' have been proven by Ukraine to be inadequate.
    LOL...I saw pictures of the wreckage moron....even Ukrainians own reports admit they never touched a hypersonic missile. There IS ZERO defense against a hypersonic missile.

    Russia has lost so many of its best tanks they have had to bring their old tanks out of mothballs and the old tanks will be destroyed even faster than the new ones were.
    WTF are you smoking, seriously. The old tanks have been the only thing they've been sending and they have like an unlimited supply of them.

    About 600,000 - 700,000 Russians fled conscription and took $15 BILLION with them.
    You mean 6,000-7,000 russians. As opposed to the many millions of Ukrainians that ran away.

    The Russian economy is cratering and Putin has been reduced to shining Xi Jin Ping's shoes.
    How stupid do you have to believe to even think this? The West is the only ones suffering from sanctions. Russia has been making complete bank

    The world's democracies can easily produce 10X as much military equipment and supplies as Russia and China combined.
    LOL you are a fool if you think this. Europe essentially has no armaments industry because the US protected them with Nato. The USA exported it's manufacturing and knowledge to China for many years now and it'd take us years and more money than we
    can print to bring anything back....and oh by the way....who are you gonna fill those jobs with? The US only produces overly expensive shit that doesn't work in anything but perfect conditions with proceeds all meant to line people's pockets. Russia
    builds shit that works in any condition, builds it cheap, and builds an infinite supply of the shit. And, worst case scenario, they'll nuke the fuck out of the entire west and that means you and me.
    And, for what....what exactly are we even doing fucking with Russia?
    Just make shit up as you traipse along, Maverick. LOL. What a clown.

    That's all this poor whiney bitch has is; Dodge, don't reply, just lie. Just like his hero, Trump.

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  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to BTSinAustin on Mon Jun 5 15:19:20 2023
    On Monday, June 5, 2023 at 11:18:25 AM UTC-7, BTSinAustin wrote:
    On Monday, June 5, 2023 at 2:57:36 AM UTC-4, risky biz wrote:


    The world's democracies can easily produce 10X as much military equipment and supplies as Russia and China combined.


    ~ Too bad the world's democracies do not pay for them, we do


    That's completely spurious. I refuted it the last time you brought it up.

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to risky biz on Mon Jun 5 16:14:59 2023
    On Monday, June 5, 2023 at 3:19:23 PM UTC-7, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, June 5, 2023 at 11:18:25 AM UTC-7, BTSinAustin wrote:
    On Monday, June 5, 2023 at 2:57:36 AM UTC-4, risky biz wrote:


    The world's democracies can easily produce 10X as much military equipment and supplies as Russia and China combined.
    ~ Too bad the world's democracies do not pay for them, we do


    That's completely spurious. I refuted it the last time you brought it up.
    .

    Such is the way of those that accept misinformation.

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