'How the F-35 swept Europe, and the competition it could soon faceTyphoon developed by Airbus, BAE Systems and Leonardo.
Sep 4, 2022
STUTTGART, Germany — The past four years have proved fruitful for Lockheed Martin in Europe, as six nations have hitched their wagons to the American company’s fifth-generation F-35 fighter jet.
Despite calls from French leaders for its neighbors to “buy European,” the F-35 has consistently beat out homegrown candidates in the most recent fighter jet competitions, including the Dassault Rafale, Saab’s JAS 39 Gripen, and the Eurofighter
This wave of success comes down to the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter’s high rate of interoperability with allies and partners, particularly in NATO, along with its guaranteed upgrade road map, analysts told Defense News. But more than anything, theynoted, the jet arrived in Europe with pristine timing, as multiple nations were itching to refresh their fleets by the end of the decade.
Belgium in 2018 became the first Foreign Military Sales customer of the F-35 from Europe, committing to buying 34 F-35A aircraft. Two years later, Poland followed, and now plans to procure 32 F-35As.weapons-carrying P-200 Tornado jets, and the Czech Republic has pledged to buy 24 F-35As as it retires its Gripens.
In 2021, Switzerland and Finland each picked the platform to replace their respective F-18 Hornets, with the former committing to 36 aircraft and the latter to 64. Most recently, Germany is set to procure 35 F-35A aircraft to replace its nuclear
Formal procurement processes for Switzerland, Finland, Germany and the Czech Republic have not yet begun, a Lockheed Martin official said in an email to Defense News. Eventually, the company expects more than 550 F-35s will be stationed in Europe by2030, to include U.S. Air Force squadrons based at Royal Air Force Lakenheath in England.
Other European program participants include Denmark, Italy, the Netherlands, Norway and the United Kingdom.and reconnaissance missions following Russia’s February invasion of Ukraine.
Key benefits include the F-35′s interoperability. The aircraft is used in NATO missions such as Baltic Air Policing, and the U.S. earlier this year deployed several aircraft to the alliance’s eastern borders to support intelligence, surveillance
As more nations pick the F-35, those countries’ armed services become evermore interoperable across ground crews, training and logistics efforts, said Dan Darling, a senior analyst at Forecast International.Lockheed and losing its delivery slot to other nations in line. The government urged the procurement to move forward.
What’s more, the F-35 comes with a robust upgrade road map, with “a steady stream of product improvements” that ensures the aircraft will remain relevant for decades to come, Aboulafia noted.
The reemergence of Russia as an adversary in Europe following its invasion of Ukraine has also prompted allies to prioritize stealth technologies, particularly for Germany and Finland, he noted.
The recent selections haven’t all been without roadblocks. A Swiss coalition of socialists and Green Party members launched an effort, dubbed “Stop F-35,″ to swing a referendum on the procurement decision before the offer period expires in March.
This approach was successful in 2014, when the Swiss voted 52% to 48% to block the presumed sale of Saab Gripen aircraft meant to replace Switzerland’s Northrop F-5 aircraft. But it may not work this time.
Despite “Stop F-35″ retrieving 100,000 signatures to launch the referendum campaign, the Swiss government announced Aug. 24 that it was “not possible” to schedule the vote before the offer period ends, citing the risks of renegotiations with
The Czech announcement shows there may be more Eastern European fleets to gun for, said Aboulafia. Romania has expressed interest in producing F-35s after 2030, according to a Euractiv report.
Meanwhile, Greece in June filed an official letter of request to procure 20 F-35As by 2028, and conversations are ongoing between country officials and Lockheed Martin, a company spokesperson said.'
https://www.defensenews.com/global/europe/2022/09/04/how-the-f-35-swept-europe-and-the-competition-it-could-soon-face/
On Sunday, April 9, 2023 at 1:45:52 PM UTC-7, risky biz wrote:Typhoon developed by Airbus, BAE Systems and Leonardo.
'How the F-35 swept Europe, and the competition it could soon face
Sep 4, 2022
STUTTGART, Germany — The past four years have proved fruitful for Lockheed Martin in Europe, as six nations have hitched their wagons to the American company’s fifth-generation F-35 fighter jet.
Despite calls from French leaders for its neighbors to “buy European,” the F-35 has consistently beat out homegrown candidates in the most recent fighter jet competitions, including the Dassault Rafale, Saab’s JAS 39 Gripen, and the Eurofighter
noted, the jet arrived in Europe with pristine timing, as multiple nations were itching to refresh their fleets by the end of the decade.This wave of success comes down to the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter’s high rate of interoperability with allies and partners, particularly in NATO, along with its guaranteed upgrade road map, analysts told Defense News. But more than anything, they
weapons-carrying P-200 Tornado jets, and the Czech Republic has pledged to buy 24 F-35As as it retires its Gripens.Belgium in 2018 became the first Foreign Military Sales customer of the F-35 from Europe, committing to buying 34 F-35A aircraft. Two years later, Poland followed, and now plans to procure 32 F-35As.
In 2021, Switzerland and Finland each picked the platform to replace their respective F-18 Hornets, with the former committing to 36 aircraft and the latter to 64. Most recently, Germany is set to procure 35 F-35A aircraft to replace its nuclear
2030, to include U.S. Air Force squadrons based at Royal Air Force Lakenheath in England.Formal procurement processes for Switzerland, Finland, Germany and the Czech Republic have not yet begun, a Lockheed Martin official said in an email to Defense News. Eventually, the company expects more than 550 F-35s will be stationed in Europe by
and reconnaissance missions following Russia’s February invasion of Ukraine.Other European program participants include Denmark, Italy, the Netherlands, Norway and the United Kingdom.
Key benefits include the F-35′s interoperability. The aircraft is used in NATO missions such as Baltic Air Policing, and the U.S. earlier this year deployed several aircraft to the alliance’s eastern borders to support intelligence, surveillance
March.As more nations pick the F-35, those countries’ armed services become evermore interoperable across ground crews, training and logistics efforts, said Dan Darling, a senior analyst at Forecast International.
What’s more, the F-35 comes with a robust upgrade road map, with “a steady stream of product improvements” that ensures the aircraft will remain relevant for decades to come, Aboulafia noted.
The reemergence of Russia as an adversary in Europe following its invasion of Ukraine has also prompted allies to prioritize stealth technologies, particularly for Germany and Finland, he noted.
The recent selections haven’t all been without roadblocks. A Swiss coalition of socialists and Green Party members launched an effort, dubbed “Stop F-35,″ to swing a referendum on the procurement decision before the offer period expires in
Lockheed and losing its delivery slot to other nations in line. The government urged the procurement to move forward.This approach was successful in 2014, when the Swiss voted 52% to 48% to block the presumed sale of Saab Gripen aircraft meant to replace Switzerland’s Northrop F-5 aircraft. But it may not work this time.
Despite “Stop F-35″ retrieving 100,000 signatures to launch the referendum campaign, the Swiss government announced Aug. 24 that it was “not possible” to schedule the vote before the offer period ends, citing the risks of renegotiations with
The Czech announcement shows there may be more Eastern European fleets to gun for, said Aboulafia. Romania has expressed interest in producing F-35s after 2030, according to a Euractiv report.
Meanwhile, Greece in June filed an official letter of request to procure 20 F-35As by 2028, and conversations are ongoing between country officials and Lockheed Martin, a company spokesperson said.'
https://www.defensenews.com/global/europe/2022/09/04/how-the-f-35-swept-europe-and-the-competition-it-could-soon-face/
On Sunday, April 9, 2023 at 3:06:14 PM UTC-7, risky biz wrote:
(Awarded 10 extra points for not understanding what 'interoperability' means.)
'Arm-twisted'. What a laugh. The primary subject of the article is the free and robust competition between platforms and how interoperability is one of the F-35's main advantages.
Russia has about as much chance of conquering Ukraine as you have of conquering reality.
(Awarded 10 extra points for not understanding what 'interoperability' means.)
'Arm-twisted'. What a laugh. The primary subject of the article is the free and robust competition between platforms and how interoperability is one of the F-35's main advantages.
Russia has about as much chance of conquering Ukraine as you have of conquering reality.
On Sunday, April 9, 2023 at 4:57:01 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
On Sunday, April 9, 2023 at 3:06:14 PM UTC-7, risky biz wrote:
~ Hey, you ignorant dumbass. The same word can have multiple applications.(Awarded 10 extra points for not understanding what 'interoperability' means.)
And 'a little bit of everything' isn't one of them. Do you know how to use a dictionary, for Christ's sake?
~ Perhaps, you are talking software. But, what I'm talking about is how they think this plane can do it all. It can a little bit of everything at a very average level and will get completely smoked by any Chinese or Russian layered air defense.
No one claimed that the F-35 is supposed to 'do it all'. It's primarily a ground attack aircraft with the most advanced stealth and other electronic capabilities in the world.
~ Once again, this plane doesn't even work. It's spent it's life on the ground. A paper tiger. It's our bullshit force.'Arm-twisted'. What a laugh. The primary subject of the article is the free and robust competition between platforms and how interoperability is one of the F-35's main advantages.
Once again, you're delusional. Facts slide off you like water off a duck.
~The US military is a specialist force for small conflicts. the US military isn't made for large wars and it's equipment isn't made to last. All of it. I think Taiwan will likely go to China without a fight, but it'd be our worst nightmare if we weresupposed to take on the Chinese at any level. They'd sink every carrier we got, hundreds of planes, and if we really pissed them off, they EMP our entire grid. Our Politicians have been bluffing our might for years and it's even worse than that now the
You don't have the slightest clue what you're talking about.
Russia has about as much chance of conquering Ukraine as you have of conquering reality.
On Sunday, April 9, 2023 at 1:45:52 PM UTC-7, risky biz wrote:Typhoon developed by Airbus, BAE Systems and Leonardo.
'How the F-35 swept Europe, and the competition it could soon face
Sep 4, 2022
STUTTGART, Germany — The past four years have proved fruitful for Lockheed Martin in Europe, as six nations have hitched their wagons to the American company’s fifth-generation F-35 fighter jet.
Despite calls from French leaders for its neighbors to “buy European,” the F-35 has consistently beat out homegrown candidates in the most recent fighter jet competitions, including the Dassault Rafale, Saab’s JAS 39 Gripen, and the Eurofighter
noted, the jet arrived in Europe with pristine timing, as multiple nations were itching to refresh their fleets by the end of the decade.This wave of success comes down to the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter’s high rate of interoperability with allies and partners, particularly in NATO, along with its guaranteed upgrade road map, analysts told Defense News. But more than anything, they
weapons-carrying P-200 Tornado jets, and the Czech Republic has pledged to buy 24 F-35As as it retires its Gripens.Belgium in 2018 became the first Foreign Military Sales customer of the F-35 from Europe, committing to buying 34 F-35A aircraft. Two years later, Poland followed, and now plans to procure 32 F-35As.
In 2021, Switzerland and Finland each picked the platform to replace their respective F-18 Hornets, with the former committing to 36 aircraft and the latter to 64. Most recently, Germany is set to procure 35 F-35A aircraft to replace its nuclear
2030, to include U.S. Air Force squadrons based at Royal Air Force Lakenheath in England.Formal procurement processes for Switzerland, Finland, Germany and the Czech Republic have not yet begun, a Lockheed Martin official said in an email to Defense News. Eventually, the company expects more than 550 F-35s will be stationed in Europe by
and reconnaissance missions following Russia’s February invasion of Ukraine.Other European program participants include Denmark, Italy, the Netherlands, Norway and the United Kingdom.
Key benefits include the F-35′s interoperability. The aircraft is used in NATO missions such as Baltic Air Policing, and the U.S. earlier this year deployed several aircraft to the alliance’s eastern borders to support intelligence, surveillance
March.As more nations pick the F-35, those countries’ armed services become evermore interoperable across ground crews, training and logistics efforts, said Dan Darling, a senior analyst at Forecast International.
What’s more, the F-35 comes with a robust upgrade road map, with “a steady stream of product improvements” that ensures the aircraft will remain relevant for decades to come, Aboulafia noted.
The reemergence of Russia as an adversary in Europe following its invasion of Ukraine has also prompted allies to prioritize stealth technologies, particularly for Germany and Finland, he noted.
The recent selections haven’t all been without roadblocks. A Swiss coalition of socialists and Green Party members launched an effort, dubbed “Stop F-35,″ to swing a referendum on the procurement decision before the offer period expires in
Lockheed and losing its delivery slot to other nations in line. The government urged the procurement to move forward.This approach was successful in 2014, when the Swiss voted 52% to 48% to block the presumed sale of Saab Gripen aircraft meant to replace Switzerland’s Northrop F-5 aircraft. But it may not work this time.
Despite “Stop F-35″ retrieving 100,000 signatures to launch the referendum campaign, the Swiss government announced Aug. 24 that it was “not possible” to schedule the vote before the offer period ends, citing the risks of renegotiations with
.The Czech announcement shows there may be more Eastern European fleets to gun for, said Aboulafia. Romania has expressed interest in producing F-35s after 2030, according to a Euractiv report.
Meanwhile, Greece in June filed an official letter of request to procure 20 F-35As by 2028, and conversations are ongoing between country officials and Lockheed Martin, a company spokesperson said.'
https://www.defensenews.com/global/europe/2022/09/04/how-the-f-35-swept-europe-and-the-competition-it-could-soon-face/
What bullshit. That "interoperability" isn't a feature, it's a weakness..
And, politicians in all of the West these days are weak minded puppets.
Just because they got arm twisted into the F35 doesn't mean they are making a good decision.
Once again, this plane doesn't even work. It's spent it's life on the ground. A paper tiger. It's our bullshit force. The US military is a specialist force for small conflicts. the US military isn't made for large wars and it's equipment isn't made tolast. All of it. I think Taiwan will likely go to China without a fight, but it'd be our worst nightmare if we were supposed to take on the Chinese at any level. They'd sink every carrier we got, hundreds of planes, and if we really pissed them off, they
On Sunday, April 9, 2023 at 4:57:01 PM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
On Sunday, April 9, 2023 at 3:06:14 PM UTC-7, risky biz wrote:
~ Hey, you ignorant dumbass. The same word can have multiple applications.(Awarded 10 extra points for not understanding what 'interoperability' means.)
And 'a little bit of everything' isn't one of them. Do you know how to use a dictionary, for Christ's sake?
~ Perhaps, you are talking software. But, what I'm talking about is how they think this plane can do it all. It can a little bit of everything at a very average level and will get completely smoked by any Chinese or Russian layered air defense.
No one claimed that the F-35 is supposed to 'do it all'. It's primarily a ground attack aircraft with the most advanced stealth and other electronic capabilities in the world.
~ Once again, this plane doesn't even work. It's spent it's life on the ground. A paper tiger. It's our bullshit force.'Arm-twisted'. What a laugh. The primary subject of the article is the free and robust competition between platforms and how interoperability is one of the F-35's main advantages.
Once again, you're delusional. Facts slide off you like water off a duck.
~The US military is a specialist force for small conflicts. the US military isn't made for large wars and it's equipment isn't made to last. All of it. I think Taiwan will likely go to China without a fight, but it'd be our worst nightmare if we weresupposed to take on the Chinese at any level. They'd sink every carrier we got, hundreds of planes, and if we really pissed them off, they EMP our entire grid. Our Politicians have been bluffing our might for years and it's even worse than that now the
You don't have the slightest clue what you're talking about..
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