THE NEW YORK TIMESand accelerated with Donald J. Trump’s political rise.
DeSantis, Backing Away From Ukraine, Angers G.O.P. Hawks
The Florida governor, who joined Donald Trump
in declaring that defending Ukraine from Russia
was not a vital interest, drew swift condemnations
from establishment Republicans.
Declaring this week that defending Ukraine against Russia’s invasion was not a vital interest for the United States, Gov. Ron DeSantis of Florida cemented a Republican shift away from hawkish foreign policy that has played out over the past decade
Mr. Trump and Mr. DeSantis — whose combined support makes up more than 75 percent of Republican primary voters in the nascent 2024 presidential contest — are now largely aligned on Ukraine, signaling a sharp break from the interventionist approachthat drove former President George W. Bush’s invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan.
Republican foreign policy hawks recoiled at Mr. DeSantis’s statement on “Tucker Carlson Tonight” on Fox News on Monday night, in which the governor deviated from the position held by most of the Republican establishment on Capitol Hill, includingSenator Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, the minority leader. Mr. McConnell and other top congressional Republicans have framed the invasion by President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia as a fight to defend the post-World War II international security framework.
“DeSantis is wrong and seems to have forgotten the lessons of Ronald Reagan,” said former Representative Liz Cheney of Wyoming, who led the House select committee investigating Mr. Trump’s efforts to overturn the 2020 election.Republican presidential field.
“This is not ‘a territorial dispute,’” she said in a statement, echoing Mr. DeSantis’s phrasing. “The Ukrainian people are fighting for their freedom. Surrendering to Putin and refusing to defend freedom makes America less safe.”
She went on: “Weakness is provocative and American officials who advocate this type of weakness are Putin’s greatest weapon. Abandoning Ukraine would make broader conflict, including with China and other American adversaries, more likely.”
Senator Lindsey Graham, Republican of South Carolina, said in an interview on Tuesday morning that he “could not disagree more” with Mr. DeSantis’s characterization of the stakes attached to the defense of Ukraine.
“The Neville Chamberlain approach to aggression never ends well,” said Mr. Graham, comparing Mr. DeSantis to the British prime minister who appeased Adolf Hitler. “This is an attempt by Putin to rewrite the map of Europe by force of arms.”
Senator Marco Rubio of Florida, a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, also took issue with Mr. DeSantis’s comments — a significant rebuke from the senior Republican in Mr. DeSantis’s home state.
“I don’t know what he’s trying to do or what the goal is,” Mr. Rubio, a former presidential candidate, told the conservative radio host Hugh Hewitt.
And Senator John Cornyn of Texas told Politico he was “disturbed” by Mr. DeSantis’s comments.
Mr. Trump has long made his views on foreign intervention clear, railing against the Iraq war in his 2016 campaign, but Mr. DeSantis had sought to avoid being pinned down on one of the most important foreign policy questions facing the prospective
His choice of words, describing the conflict as a “territorial dispute,” was telling. By referring to Russia’s unprovoked invasion that way, he dismissed the argument that Mr. Putin’s aggression threatened the postwar international order. Mr.DeSantis and Mr. Trump have unequivocally rejected the idea that the conflict is a war to defend “freedom,” a position espoused by two of their potential rivals for the Republican presidential nomination, former Vice President Mike Pence and Nikki
Mr. DeSantis left himself some wiggle room in his statement, which came in response to a questionnaire that Mr. Carlson had sent to all of the major prospective Republican presidential candidates. The governor did not promise to end all U.S. aid toUkraine — an omission noticed by some hard-line opponents of support for Ukraine, who criticized Mr. DeSantis for leaving open the possibility that he would keep up the flow of American assistance.
Yet by downplaying the stakes of the conflict to the extent he did, Mr. DeSantis angered many Republicans in the foreign policy establishment who said he had talked himself into a corner. Even if he were to change his mind about Ukraine, how would aPresident DeSantis rally the public and Congress to send billions of dollars and high-tech weapons for a mere “territorial dispute” of no vital interest to America?
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On Tuesday, March 14, 2023 at 4:25:57 PM UTC-7, VegasJerry wrote:and accelerated with Donald J. Trump’s political rise.
THE NEW YORK TIMES
DeSantis, Backing Away From Ukraine, Angers G.O.P. Hawks
The Florida governor, who joined Donald Trump
in declaring that defending Ukraine from Russia
was not a vital interest, drew swift condemnations
from establishment Republicans.
Declaring this week that defending Ukraine against Russia’s invasion was not a vital interest for the United States, Gov. Ron DeSantis of Florida cemented a Republican shift away from hawkish foreign policy that has played out over the past decade
approach that drove former President George W. Bush’s invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan.Mr. Trump and Mr. DeSantis — whose combined support makes up more than 75 percent of Republican primary voters in the nascent 2024 presidential contest — are now largely aligned on Ukraine, signaling a sharp break from the interventionist
including Senator Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, the minority leader. Mr. McConnell and other top congressional Republicans have framed the invasion by President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia as a fight to defend the post-World War II international securityRepublican foreign policy hawks recoiled at Mr. DeSantis’s statement on “Tucker Carlson Tonight” on Fox News on Monday night, in which the governor deviated from the position held by most of the Republican establishment on Capitol Hill,
Republican presidential field.“DeSantis is wrong and seems to have forgotten the lessons of Ronald Reagan,” said former Representative Liz Cheney of Wyoming, who led the House select committee investigating Mr. Trump’s efforts to overturn the 2020 election.
“This is not ‘a territorial dispute,’” she said in a statement, echoing Mr. DeSantis’s phrasing. “The Ukrainian people are fighting for their freedom. Surrendering to Putin and refusing to defend freedom makes America less safe.”
She went on: “Weakness is provocative and American officials who advocate this type of weakness are Putin’s greatest weapon. Abandoning Ukraine would make broader conflict, including with China and other American adversaries, more likely.”
Senator Lindsey Graham, Republican of South Carolina, said in an interview on Tuesday morning that he “could not disagree more” with Mr. DeSantis’s characterization of the stakes attached to the defense of Ukraine.
“The Neville Chamberlain approach to aggression never ends well,” said Mr. Graham, comparing Mr. DeSantis to the British prime minister who appeased Adolf Hitler. “This is an attempt by Putin to rewrite the map of Europe by force of arms.”
Senator Marco Rubio of Florida, a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, also took issue with Mr. DeSantis’s comments — a significant rebuke from the senior Republican in Mr. DeSantis’s home state.
“I don’t know what he’s trying to do or what the goal is,” Mr. Rubio, a former presidential candidate, told the conservative radio host Hugh Hewitt.
And Senator John Cornyn of Texas told Politico he was “disturbed” by Mr. DeSantis’s comments.
Mr. Trump has long made his views on foreign intervention clear, railing against the Iraq war in his 2016 campaign, but Mr. DeSantis had sought to avoid being pinned down on one of the most important foreign policy questions facing the prospective
DeSantis and Mr. Trump have unequivocally rejected the idea that the conflict is a war to defend “freedom,” a position espoused by two of their potential rivals for the Republican presidential nomination, former Vice President Mike Pence and NikkiHis choice of words, describing the conflict as a “territorial dispute,” was telling. By referring to Russia’s unprovoked invasion that way, he dismissed the argument that Mr. Putin’s aggression threatened the postwar international order. Mr.
Ukraine — an omission noticed by some hard-line opponents of support for Ukraine, who criticized Mr. DeSantis for leaving open the possibility that he would keep up the flow of American assistance.Mr. DeSantis left himself some wiggle room in his statement, which came in response to a questionnaire that Mr. Carlson had sent to all of the major prospective Republican presidential candidates. The governor did not promise to end all U.S. aid to
President DeSantis rally the public and Congress to send billions of dollars and high-tech weapons for a mere “territorial dispute” of no vital interest to America?Yet by downplaying the stakes of the conflict to the extent he did, Mr. DeSantis angered many Republicans in the foreign policy establishment who said he had talked himself into a corner. Even if he were to change his mind about Ukraine, how would a
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THE NEW YORK TIMESand accelerated with Donald J. Trump’s political rise.
DeSantis, Backing Away From Ukraine, Angers G.O.P. Hawks
The Florida governor, who joined Donald Trump
in declaring that defending Ukraine from Russia
was not a vital interest, drew swift condemnations
from establishment Republicans.
Declaring this week that defending Ukraine against Russia’s invasion was not a vital interest for the United States, Gov. Ron DeSantis of Florida cemented a Republican shift away from hawkish foreign policy that has played out over the past decade
Mr. Trump and Mr. DeSantis — whose combined support makes up more than 75 percent of Republican primary voters in the nascent 2024 presidential contest — are now largely aligned on Ukraine, signaling a sharp break from the interventionist approachthat drove former President George W. Bush’s invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan.
Republican foreign policy hawks recoiled at Mr. DeSantis’s statement on “Tucker Carlson Tonight” on Fox News on Monday night, in which the governor deviated from the position held by most of the Republican establishment on Capitol Hill, includingSenator Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, the minority leader. Mr. McConnell and other top congressional Republicans have framed the invasion by President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia as a fight to defend the post-World War II international security framework.
“DeSantis is wrong and seems to have forgotten the lessons of Ronald Reagan,” said former Representative Liz Cheney of Wyoming, who led the House select committee investigating Mr. Trump’s efforts to overturn the 2020 election.Republican presidential field.
“This is not ‘a territorial dispute,’” she said in a statement, echoing Mr. DeSantis’s phrasing. “The Ukrainian people are fighting for their freedom. Surrendering to Putin and refusing to defend freedom makes America less safe.”
She went on: “Weakness is provocative and American officials who advocate this type of weakness are Putin’s greatest weapon. Abandoning Ukraine would make broader conflict, including with China and other American adversaries, more likely.”
Senator Lindsey Graham, Republican of South Carolina, said in an interview on Tuesday morning that he “could not disagree more” with Mr. DeSantis’s characterization of the stakes attached to the defense of Ukraine.
“The Neville Chamberlain approach to aggression never ends well,” said Mr. Graham, comparing Mr. DeSantis to the British prime minister who appeased Adolf Hitler. “This is an attempt by Putin to rewrite the map of Europe by force of arms.”
Senator Marco Rubio of Florida, a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, also took issue with Mr. DeSantis’s comments — a significant rebuke from the senior Republican in Mr. DeSantis’s home state.
“I don’t know what he’s trying to do or what the goal is,” Mr. Rubio, a former presidential candidate, told the conservative radio host Hugh Hewitt.
And Senator John Cornyn of Texas told Politico he was “disturbed” by Mr. DeSantis’s comments.
Mr. Trump has long made his views on foreign intervention clear, railing against the Iraq war in his 2016 campaign, but Mr. DeSantis had sought to avoid being pinned down on one of the most important foreign policy questions facing the prospective
His choice of words, describing the conflict as a “territorial dispute,” was telling. By referring to Russia’s unprovoked invasion that way, he dismissed the argument that Mr. Putin’s aggression threatened the postwar international order. Mr.DeSantis and Mr. Trump have unequivocally rejected the idea that the conflict is a war to defend “freedom,” a position espoused by two of their potential rivals for the Republican presidential nomination, former Vice President Mike Pence and Nikki
Mr. DeSantis left himself some wiggle room in his statement, which came in response to a questionnaire that Mr. Carlson had sent to all of the major prospective Republican presidential candidates. The governor did not promise to end all U.S. aid toUkraine — an omission noticed by some hard-line opponents of support for Ukraine, who criticized Mr. DeSantis for leaving open the possibility that he would keep up the flow of American assistance.
Yet by downplaying the stakes of the conflict to the extent he did, Mr. DeSantis angered many Republicans in the foreign policy establishment who said he had talked himself into a corner. Even if he were to change his mind about Ukraine, how would aPresident DeSantis rally the public and Congress to send billions of dollars and high-tech weapons for a mere “territorial dispute” of no vital interest to America?
_____________________
On Tuesday, March 14, 2023 at 7:25:57 PM UTC-4, VegasJerry wrote:and accelerated with Donald J. Trump’s political rise.
THE NEW YORK TIMES
DeSantis, Backing Away From Ukraine, Angers G.O.P. Hawks
The Florida governor, who joined Donald Trump
in declaring that defending Ukraine from Russia
was not a vital interest, drew swift condemnations
from establishment Republicans.
Declaring this week that defending Ukraine against Russia’s invasion was not a vital interest for the United States, Gov. Ron DeSantis of Florida cemented a Republican shift away from hawkish foreign policy that has played out over the past decade
approach that drove former President George W. Bush’s invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan.Mr. Trump and Mr. DeSantis — whose combined support makes up more than 75 percent of Republican primary voters in the nascent 2024 presidential contest — are now largely aligned on Ukraine, signaling a sharp break from the interventionist
including Senator Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, the minority leader. Mr. McConnell and other top congressional Republicans have framed the invasion by President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia as a fight to defend the post-World War II international securityRepublican foreign policy hawks recoiled at Mr. DeSantis’s statement on “Tucker Carlson Tonight” on Fox News on Monday night, in which the governor deviated from the position held by most of the Republican establishment on Capitol Hill,
Republican presidential field.“DeSantis is wrong and seems to have forgotten the lessons of Ronald Reagan,” said former Representative Liz Cheney of Wyoming, who led the House select committee investigating Mr. Trump’s efforts to overturn the 2020 election.
“This is not ‘a territorial dispute,’” she said in a statement, echoing Mr. DeSantis’s phrasing. “The Ukrainian people are fighting for their freedom. Surrendering to Putin and refusing to defend freedom makes America less safe.”
She went on: “Weakness is provocative and American officials who advocate this type of weakness are Putin’s greatest weapon. Abandoning Ukraine would make broader conflict, including with China and other American adversaries, more likely.”
Senator Lindsey Graham, Republican of South Carolina, said in an interview on Tuesday morning that he “could not disagree more” with Mr. DeSantis’s characterization of the stakes attached to the defense of Ukraine.
“The Neville Chamberlain approach to aggression never ends well,” said Mr. Graham, comparing Mr. DeSantis to the British prime minister who appeased Adolf Hitler. “This is an attempt by Putin to rewrite the map of Europe by force of arms.”
Senator Marco Rubio of Florida, a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, also took issue with Mr. DeSantis’s comments — a significant rebuke from the senior Republican in Mr. DeSantis’s home state.
“I don’t know what he’s trying to do or what the goal is,” Mr. Rubio, a former presidential candidate, told the conservative radio host Hugh Hewitt.
And Senator John Cornyn of Texas told Politico he was “disturbed” by Mr. DeSantis’s comments.
Mr. Trump has long made his views on foreign intervention clear, railing against the Iraq war in his 2016 campaign, but Mr. DeSantis had sought to avoid being pinned down on one of the most important foreign policy questions facing the prospective
DeSantis and Mr. Trump have unequivocally rejected the idea that the conflict is a war to defend “freedom,” a position espoused by two of their potential rivals for the Republican presidential nomination, former Vice President Mike Pence and NikkiHis choice of words, describing the conflict as a “territorial dispute,” was telling. By referring to Russia’s unprovoked invasion that way, he dismissed the argument that Mr. Putin’s aggression threatened the postwar international order. Mr.
Ukraine — an omission noticed by some hard-line opponents of support for Ukraine, who criticized Mr. DeSantis for leaving open the possibility that he would keep up the flow of American assistance.Mr. DeSantis left himself some wiggle room in his statement, which came in response to a questionnaire that Mr. Carlson had sent to all of the major prospective Republican presidential candidates. The governor did not promise to end all U.S. aid to
President DeSantis rally the public and Congress to send billions of dollars and high-tech weapons for a mere “territorial dispute” of no vital interest to America?Yet by downplaying the stakes of the conflict to the extent he did, Mr. DeSantis angered many Republicans in the foreign policy establishment who said he had talked himself into a corner. Even if he were to change his mind about Ukraine, how would a
_____________________Hopefully he will be able to stop sending money to the most corrupt government in Europe
On Wednesday, March 15, 2023 at 11:24:15 AM UTC-7, BTSinAustin wrote:decade and accelerated with Donald J. Trump’s political rise.
On Tuesday, March 14, 2023 at 7:25:57 PM UTC-4, VegasJerry wrote:
THE NEW YORK TIMES
DeSantis, Backing Away From Ukraine, Angers G.O.P. Hawks
The Florida governor, who joined Donald Trump
in declaring that defending Ukraine from Russia
was not a vital interest, drew swift condemnations
from establishment Republicans.
Declaring this week that defending Ukraine against Russia’s invasion was not a vital interest for the United States, Gov. Ron DeSantis of Florida cemented a Republican shift away from hawkish foreign policy that has played out over the past
approach that drove former President George W. Bush’s invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan.Mr. Trump and Mr. DeSantis — whose combined support makes up more than 75 percent of Republican primary voters in the nascent 2024 presidential contest — are now largely aligned on Ukraine, signaling a sharp break from the interventionist
including Senator Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, the minority leader. Mr. McConnell and other top congressional Republicans have framed the invasion by President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia as a fight to defend the post-World War II international securityRepublican foreign policy hawks recoiled at Mr. DeSantis’s statement on “Tucker Carlson Tonight” on Fox News on Monday night, in which the governor deviated from the position held by most of the Republican establishment on Capitol Hill,
Republican presidential field.“DeSantis is wrong and seems to have forgotten the lessons of Ronald Reagan,” said former Representative Liz Cheney of Wyoming, who led the House select committee investigating Mr. Trump’s efforts to overturn the 2020 election.
“This is not ‘a territorial dispute,’” she said in a statement, echoing Mr. DeSantis’s phrasing. “The Ukrainian people are fighting for their freedom. Surrendering to Putin and refusing to defend freedom makes America less safe.”
She went on: “Weakness is provocative and American officials who advocate this type of weakness are Putin’s greatest weapon. Abandoning Ukraine would make broader conflict, including with China and other American adversaries, more likely.”
Senator Lindsey Graham, Republican of South Carolina, said in an interview on Tuesday morning that he “could not disagree more” with Mr. DeSantis’s characterization of the stakes attached to the defense of Ukraine.
“The Neville Chamberlain approach to aggression never ends well,” said Mr. Graham, comparing Mr. DeSantis to the British prime minister who appeased Adolf Hitler. “This is an attempt by Putin to rewrite the map of Europe by force of arms.”
Senator Marco Rubio of Florida, a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, also took issue with Mr. DeSantis’s comments — a significant rebuke from the senior Republican in Mr. DeSantis’s home state.
“I don’t know what he’s trying to do or what the goal is,” Mr. Rubio, a former presidential candidate, told the conservative radio host Hugh Hewitt.
And Senator John Cornyn of Texas told Politico he was “disturbed” by Mr. DeSantis’s comments.
Mr. Trump has long made his views on foreign intervention clear, railing against the Iraq war in his 2016 campaign, but Mr. DeSantis had sought to avoid being pinned down on one of the most important foreign policy questions facing the prospective
Mr. DeSantis and Mr. Trump have unequivocally rejected the idea that the conflict is a war to defend “freedom,” a position espoused by two of their potential rivals for the Republican presidential nomination, former Vice President Mike Pence andHis choice of words, describing the conflict as a “territorial dispute,” was telling. By referring to Russia’s unprovoked invasion that way, he dismissed the argument that Mr. Putin’s aggression threatened the postwar international order.
Ukraine — an omission noticed by some hard-line opponents of support for Ukraine, who criticized Mr. DeSantis for leaving open the possibility that he would keep up the flow of American assistance.Mr. DeSantis left himself some wiggle room in his statement, which came in response to a questionnaire that Mr. Carlson had sent to all of the major prospective Republican presidential candidates. The governor did not promise to end all U.S. aid to
a President DeSantis rally the public and Congress to send billions of dollars and high-tech weapons for a mere “territorial dispute” of no vital interest to America?Yet by downplaying the stakes of the conflict to the extent he did, Mr. DeSantis angered many Republicans in the foreign policy establishment who said he had talked himself into a corner. Even if he were to change his mind about Ukraine, how would
Well, we could ask what government you're talking about, but you don't reply._____________________Hopefully he will be able to stop sending money to the most corrupt government in Europe
Or ask you to show their corruption, but you don't reply.
You don't list.
You don't show.
You Dodge, Run & Hide.
On Wednesday, March 15, 2023 at 2:27:56 PM UTC-4, VegasJerry wrote:decade and accelerated with Donald J. Trump’s political rise.
On Wednesday, March 15, 2023 at 11:24:15 AM UTC-7, BTSinAustin wrote:
On Tuesday, March 14, 2023 at 7:25:57 PM UTC-4, VegasJerry wrote:
THE NEW YORK TIMES
DeSantis, Backing Away From Ukraine, Angers G.O.P. Hawks
The Florida governor, who joined Donald Trump
in declaring that defending Ukraine from Russia
was not a vital interest, drew swift condemnations
from establishment Republicans.
Declaring this week that defending Ukraine against Russia’s invasion was not a vital interest for the United States, Gov. Ron DeSantis of Florida cemented a Republican shift away from hawkish foreign policy that has played out over the past
approach that drove former President George W. Bush’s invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan.Mr. Trump and Mr. DeSantis — whose combined support makes up more than 75 percent of Republican primary voters in the nascent 2024 presidential contest — are now largely aligned on Ukraine, signaling a sharp break from the interventionist
including Senator Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, the minority leader. Mr. McConnell and other top congressional Republicans have framed the invasion by President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia as a fight to defend the post-World War II international securityRepublican foreign policy hawks recoiled at Mr. DeSantis’s statement on “Tucker Carlson Tonight” on Fox News on Monday night, in which the governor deviated from the position held by most of the Republican establishment on Capitol Hill,
“DeSantis is wrong and seems to have forgotten the lessons of Ronald Reagan,” said former Representative Liz Cheney of Wyoming, who led the House select committee investigating Mr. Trump’s efforts to overturn the 2020 election.
“This is not ‘a territorial dispute,’” she said in a statement, echoing Mr. DeSantis’s phrasing. “The Ukrainian people are fighting for their freedom. Surrendering to Putin and refusing to defend freedom makes America less safe.”
She went on: “Weakness is provocative and American officials who advocate this type of weakness are Putin’s greatest weapon. Abandoning Ukraine would make broader conflict, including with China and other American adversaries, more likely.”
Senator Lindsey Graham, Republican of South Carolina, said in an interview on Tuesday morning that he “could not disagree more” with Mr. DeSantis’s characterization of the stakes attached to the defense of Ukraine.
“The Neville Chamberlain approach to aggression never ends well,” said Mr. Graham, comparing Mr. DeSantis to the British prime minister who appeased Adolf Hitler. “This is an attempt by Putin to rewrite the map of Europe by force of arms.”
prospective Republican presidential field.Senator Marco Rubio of Florida, a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, also took issue with Mr. DeSantis’s comments — a significant rebuke from the senior Republican in Mr. DeSantis’s home state.
“I don’t know what he’s trying to do or what the goal is,” Mr. Rubio, a former presidential candidate, told the conservative radio host Hugh Hewitt.
And Senator John Cornyn of Texas told Politico he was “disturbed” by Mr. DeSantis’s comments.
Mr. Trump has long made his views on foreign intervention clear, railing against the Iraq war in his 2016 campaign, but Mr. DeSantis had sought to avoid being pinned down on one of the most important foreign policy questions facing the
Mr. DeSantis and Mr. Trump have unequivocally rejected the idea that the conflict is a war to defend “freedom,” a position espoused by two of their potential rivals for the Republican presidential nomination, former Vice President Mike Pence andHis choice of words, describing the conflict as a “territorial dispute,” was telling. By referring to Russia’s unprovoked invasion that way, he dismissed the argument that Mr. Putin’s aggression threatened the postwar international order.
to Ukraine — an omission noticed by some hard-line opponents of support for Ukraine, who criticized Mr. DeSantis for leaving open the possibility that he would keep up the flow of American assistance.Mr. DeSantis left himself some wiggle room in his statement, which came in response to a questionnaire that Mr. Carlson had sent to all of the major prospective Republican presidential candidates. The governor did not promise to end all U.S. aid
would a President DeSantis rally the public and Congress to send billions of dollars and high-tech weapons for a mere “territorial dispute” of no vital interest to America?Yet by downplaying the stakes of the conflict to the extent he did, Mr. DeSantis angered many Republicans in the foreign policy establishment who said he had talked himself into a corner. Even if he were to change his mind about Ukraine, how
_____________________Hopefully he will be able to stop sending money to the most corrupt government in Europe
Well, we could ask what government you're talking about, but you don't reply.
Or ask you to show their corruption, but you don't reply.
You don't list.
You don't show.
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https://www.theguardian.com/news/2015/feb/04/welcome-to-the-most-corrupt-nation-in-europe-ukraine
https://www.coe.int/en/web/corruption/completed-projects/enpi/newsroom-enpi/-/asset_publisher/F0LygN4lv4rX/content/ukraine-most-corrupt-country-in-europe-after-russia?inheritRedirect=false
https://www.brusselstimes.com/40434/eu-assistance-to-ukraine-audit-of-the-most-corrupt-country-in-europe
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-ukraine-eu-summit/corruption-undermining-ukraines-progress-eus-juncker-says-idUSKBN19Y1OA
https://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2016/10/14/how-corruption-corrodes-ukraines-economy/
https://ceoworld.biz/2018/02/27/these-are-the-20-most-corrupt-countries-in-europe-in-2017/
Is that enough or do you need more proof?
On Wednesday, March 15, 2023 at 2:27:56 PM UTC-4, VegasJerry wrote:decade and accelerated with Donald J. Trump’s political rise.
On Wednesday, March 15, 2023 at 11:24:15 AM UTC-7, BTSinAustin wrote:
On Tuesday, March 14, 2023 at 7:25:57 PM UTC-4, VegasJerry wrote:
THE NEW YORK TIMES
DeSantis, Backing Away From Ukraine, Angers G.O.P. Hawks
The Florida governor, who joined Donald Trump
in declaring that defending Ukraine from Russia
was not a vital interest, drew swift condemnations
from establishment Republicans.
Declaring this week that defending Ukraine against Russia’s invasion was not a vital interest for the United States, Gov. Ron DeSantis of Florida cemented a Republican shift away from hawkish foreign policy that has played out over the past
approach that drove former President George W. Bush’s invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan.Mr. Trump and Mr. DeSantis — whose combined support makes up more than 75 percent of Republican primary voters in the nascent 2024 presidential contest — are now largely aligned on Ukraine, signaling a sharp break from the interventionist
including Senator Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, the minority leader. Mr. McConnell and other top congressional Republicans have framed the invasion by President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia as a fight to defend the post-World War II international securityRepublican foreign policy hawks recoiled at Mr. DeSantis’s statement on “Tucker Carlson Tonight” on Fox News on Monday night, in which the governor deviated from the position held by most of the Republican establishment on Capitol Hill,
“DeSantis is wrong and seems to have forgotten the lessons of Ronald Reagan,” said former Representative Liz Cheney of Wyoming, who led the House select committee investigating Mr. Trump’s efforts to overturn the 2020 election.
“This is not ‘a territorial dispute,’” she said in a statement, echoing Mr. DeSantis’s phrasing. “The Ukrainian people are fighting for their freedom. Surrendering to Putin and refusing to defend freedom makes America less safe.”
She went on: “Weakness is provocative and American officials who advocate this type of weakness are Putin’s greatest weapon. Abandoning Ukraine would make broader conflict, including with China and other American adversaries, more likely.”
Senator Lindsey Graham, Republican of South Carolina, said in an interview on Tuesday morning that he “could not disagree more” with Mr. DeSantis’s characterization of the stakes attached to the defense of Ukraine.
“The Neville Chamberlain approach to aggression never ends well,” said Mr. Graham, comparing Mr. DeSantis to the British prime minister who appeased Adolf Hitler. “This is an attempt by Putin to rewrite the map of Europe by force of arms.”
prospective Republican presidential field.Senator Marco Rubio of Florida, a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, also took issue with Mr. DeSantis’s comments — a significant rebuke from the senior Republican in Mr. DeSantis’s home state.
“I don’t know what he’s trying to do or what the goal is,” Mr. Rubio, a former presidential candidate, told the conservative radio host Hugh Hewitt.
And Senator John Cornyn of Texas told Politico he was “disturbed” by Mr. DeSantis’s comments.
Mr. Trump has long made his views on foreign intervention clear, railing against the Iraq war in his 2016 campaign, but Mr. DeSantis had sought to avoid being pinned down on one of the most important foreign policy questions facing the
Mr. DeSantis and Mr. Trump have unequivocally rejected the idea that the conflict is a war to defend “freedom,” a position espoused by two of their potential rivals for the Republican presidential nomination, former Vice President Mike Pence andHis choice of words, describing the conflict as a “territorial dispute,” was telling. By referring to Russia’s unprovoked invasion that way, he dismissed the argument that Mr. Putin’s aggression threatened the postwar international order.
to Ukraine — an omission noticed by some hard-line opponents of support for Ukraine, who criticized Mr. DeSantis for leaving open the possibility that he would keep up the flow of American assistance.Mr. DeSantis left himself some wiggle room in his statement, which came in response to a questionnaire that Mr. Carlson had sent to all of the major prospective Republican presidential candidates. The governor did not promise to end all U.S. aid
would a President DeSantis rally the public and Congress to send billions of dollars and high-tech weapons for a mere “territorial dispute” of no vital interest to America?Yet by downplaying the stakes of the conflict to the extent he did, Mr. DeSantis angered many Republicans in the foreign policy establishment who said he had talked himself into a corner. Even if he were to change his mind about Ukraine, how
https://www.theguardian.com/news/2015/feb/04/welcome-to-the-most-corrupt-nation-in-europe-ukraineWell, we could ask what government you're talking about, but you don't reply._____________________Hopefully he will be able to stop sending money to the most corrupt government in Europe
Or ask you to show their corruption, but you don't reply.
You don't list.
You don't show.
You Dodge, Run & Hide.
https://www.coe.int/en/web/corruption/completed-projects/enpi/newsroom-enpi/-/asset_publisher/F0LygN4lv4rX/content/ukraine-most-corrupt-country-in-europe-after-russia?inheritRedirect=false
https://www.brusselstimes.com/40434/eu-assistance-to-ukraine-audit-of-the-most-corrupt-country-in-europe
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-ukraine-eu-summit/corruption-undermining-ukraines-progress-eus-juncker-says-idUSKBN19Y1OA
https://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2016/10/14/how-corruption-corrodes-ukraines-economy/
https://ceoworld.biz/2018/02/27/these-are-the-20-most-corrupt-countries-in-europe-in-2017/
Is that enough or do you need more proof?
On Wednesday, March 15, 2023 at 12:17:34 PM UTC-7, BTSinAustin wrote:decade and accelerated with Donald J. Trump’s political rise.
On Wednesday, March 15, 2023 at 2:27:56 PM UTC-4, VegasJerry wrote:
On Wednesday, March 15, 2023 at 11:24:15 AM UTC-7, BTSinAustin wrote:
On Tuesday, March 14, 2023 at 7:25:57 PM UTC-4, VegasJerry wrote:
THE NEW YORK TIMES
DeSantis, Backing Away From Ukraine, Angers G.O.P. Hawks
The Florida governor, who joined Donald Trump
in declaring that defending Ukraine from Russia
was not a vital interest, drew swift condemnations
from establishment Republicans.
Declaring this week that defending Ukraine against Russia’s invasion was not a vital interest for the United States, Gov. Ron DeSantis of Florida cemented a Republican shift away from hawkish foreign policy that has played out over the past
approach that drove former President George W. Bush’s invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan.Mr. Trump and Mr. DeSantis — whose combined support makes up more than 75 percent of Republican primary voters in the nascent 2024 presidential contest — are now largely aligned on Ukraine, signaling a sharp break from the interventionist
including Senator Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, the minority leader. Mr. McConnell and other top congressional Republicans have framed the invasion by President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia as a fight to defend the post-World War II international securityRepublican foreign policy hawks recoiled at Mr. DeSantis’s statement on “Tucker Carlson Tonight” on Fox News on Monday night, in which the governor deviated from the position held by most of the Republican establishment on Capitol Hill,
“DeSantis is wrong and seems to have forgotten the lessons of Ronald Reagan,” said former Representative Liz Cheney of Wyoming, who led the House select committee investigating Mr. Trump’s efforts to overturn the 2020 election.
“This is not ‘a territorial dispute,’” she said in a statement, echoing Mr. DeSantis’s phrasing. “The Ukrainian people are fighting for their freedom. Surrendering to Putin and refusing to defend freedom makes America less safe.”
She went on: “Weakness is provocative and American officials who advocate this type of weakness are Putin’s greatest weapon. Abandoning Ukraine would make broader conflict, including with China and other American adversaries, more likely.”
Senator Lindsey Graham, Republican of South Carolina, said in an interview on Tuesday morning that he “could not disagree more” with Mr. DeSantis’s characterization of the stakes attached to the defense of Ukraine.
“The Neville Chamberlain approach to aggression never ends well,” said Mr. Graham, comparing Mr. DeSantis to the British prime minister who appeased Adolf Hitler. “This is an attempt by Putin to rewrite the map of Europe by force of arms.
prospective Republican presidential field.Senator Marco Rubio of Florida, a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, also took issue with Mr. DeSantis’s comments — a significant rebuke from the senior Republican in Mr. DeSantis’s home state.
“I don’t know what he’s trying to do or what the goal is,” Mr. Rubio, a former presidential candidate, told the conservative radio host Hugh Hewitt.
And Senator John Cornyn of Texas told Politico he was “disturbed” by Mr. DeSantis’s comments.
Mr. Trump has long made his views on foreign intervention clear, railing against the Iraq war in his 2016 campaign, but Mr. DeSantis had sought to avoid being pinned down on one of the most important foreign policy questions facing the
order. Mr. DeSantis and Mr. Trump have unequivocally rejected the idea that the conflict is a war to defend “freedom,” a position espoused by two of their potential rivals for the Republican presidential nomination, former Vice President Mike PenceHis choice of words, describing the conflict as a “territorial dispute,” was telling. By referring to Russia’s unprovoked invasion that way, he dismissed the argument that Mr. Putin’s aggression threatened the postwar international
aid to Ukraine — an omission noticed by some hard-line opponents of support for Ukraine, who criticized Mr. DeSantis for leaving open the possibility that he would keep up the flow of American assistance.Mr. DeSantis left himself some wiggle room in his statement, which came in response to a questionnaire that Mr. Carlson had sent to all of the major prospective Republican presidential candidates. The governor did not promise to end all U.S.
would a President DeSantis rally the public and Congress to send billions of dollars and high-tech weapons for a mere “territorial dispute” of no vital interest to America?Yet by downplaying the stakes of the conflict to the extent he did, Mr. DeSantis angered many Republicans in the foreign policy establishment who said he had talked himself into a corner. Even if he were to change his mind about Ukraine, how
https://www.theguardian.com/news/2015/feb/04/welcome-to-the-most-corrupt-nation-in-europe-ukraineWell, we could ask what government you're talking about, but you don't reply._____________________Hopefully he will be able to stop sending money to the most corrupt government in Europe
Or ask you to show their corruption, but you don't reply.
You don't list.
You don't show.
You Dodge, Run & Hide.
https://www.coe.int/en/web/corruption/completed-projects/enpi/newsroom-enpi/-/asset_publisher/F0LygN4lv4rX/content/ukraine-most-corrupt-country-in-europe-after-russia?inheritRedirect=false
https://www.brusselstimes.com/40434/eu-assistance-to-ukraine-audit-of-the-most-corrupt-country-in-europe
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-ukraine-eu-summit/corruption-undermining-ukraines-progress-eus-juncker-says-idUSKBN19Y1OA
https://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2016/10/14/how-corruption-corrodes-ukraines-economy/
https://ceoworld.biz/2018/02/27/these-are-the-20-most-corrupt-countries-in-europe-in-2017/
Is that enough or do you need more proof?2014, 2015, 2017? Why not go back to the Middle Ages. Zelenskiiy, BTW, ran on a platform of cleaning it up and he has been.
If France had required zero corruption there never would have been a U.S.A.
If France had required zero corruption there never would have been a U.S.A.
Read the article:
DeSantis, Backing Away From Ukraine, Angers G.O.P. Hawks
Are you for supporting Ukraine or not? Which side of the GQP are you on?
On Wednesday, March 15, 2023 at 2:37:40 PM UTC-7, risky biz wrote:decade and accelerated with Donald J. Trump’s political rise.
On Wednesday, March 15, 2023 at 12:17:34 PM UTC-7, BTSinAustin wrote:
On Wednesday, March 15, 2023 at 2:27:56 PM UTC-4, VegasJerry wrote:
On Wednesday, March 15, 2023 at 11:24:15 AM UTC-7, BTSinAustin wrote: >>>>> On Tuesday, March 14, 2023 at 7:25:57 PM UTC-4, VegasJerry wrote: >>>>>> THE NEW YORK TIMES
DeSantis, Backing Away From Ukraine, Angers G.O.P. Hawks
The Florida governor, who joined Donald Trump
in declaring that defending Ukraine from Russia
was not a vital interest, drew swift condemnations
from establishment Republicans.
Declaring this week that defending Ukraine against Russia’s invasion was not a vital interest for the United States, Gov. Ron DeSantis of Florida cemented a Republican shift away from hawkish foreign policy that has played out over the past
approach that drove former President George W. Bush’s invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan.
Mr. Trump and Mr. DeSantis — whose combined support makes up more than 75 percent of Republican primary voters in the nascent 2024 presidential contest — are now largely aligned on Ukraine, signaling a sharp break from the interventionist
including Senator Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, the minority leader. Mr. McConnell and other top congressional Republicans have framed the invasion by President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia as a fight to defend the post-World War II international security
Republican foreign policy hawks recoiled at Mr. DeSantis’s statement on “Tucker Carlson Tonight” on Fox News on Monday night, in which the governor deviated from the position held by most of the Republican establishment on Capitol Hill,
Republican presidential field.
“DeSantis is wrong and seems to have forgotten the lessons of Ronald Reagan,” said former Representative Liz Cheney of Wyoming, who led the House select committee investigating Mr. Trump’s efforts to overturn the 2020 election.
“This is not ‘a territorial dispute,’” she said in a statement, echoing Mr. DeSantis’s phrasing. “The Ukrainian people are fighting for their freedom. Surrendering to Putin and refusing to defend freedom makes America less safe.”
She went on: “Weakness is provocative and American officials who advocate this type of weakness are Putin’s greatest weapon. Abandoning Ukraine would make broader conflict, including with China and other American adversaries, more likely.”
Senator Lindsey Graham, Republican of South Carolina, said in an interview on Tuesday morning that he “could not disagree more” with Mr. DeSantis’s characterization of the stakes attached to the defense of Ukraine.
“The Neville Chamberlain approach to aggression never ends well,” said Mr. Graham, comparing Mr. DeSantis to the British prime minister who appeased Adolf Hitler. “This is an attempt by Putin to rewrite the map of Europe by force of arms.”
Senator Marco Rubio of Florida, a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, also took issue with Mr. DeSantis’s comments — a significant rebuke from the senior Republican in Mr. DeSantis’s home state.
“I don’t know what he’s trying to do or what the goal is,” Mr. Rubio, a former presidential candidate, told the conservative radio host Hugh Hewitt.
And Senator John Cornyn of Texas told Politico he was “disturbed” by Mr. DeSantis’s comments.
Mr. Trump has long made his views on foreign intervention clear, railing against the Iraq war in his 2016 campaign, but Mr. DeSantis had sought to avoid being pinned down on one of the most important foreign policy questions facing the prospective
Mr. DeSantis and Mr. Trump have unequivocally rejected the idea that the conflict is a war to defend “freedom,” a position espoused by two of their potential rivals for the Republican presidential nomination, former Vice President Mike Pence and
His choice of words, describing the conflict as a “territorial dispute,” was telling. By referring to Russia’s unprovoked invasion that way, he dismissed the argument that Mr. Putin’s aggression threatened the postwar international order.
to Ukraine — an omission noticed by some hard-line opponents of support for Ukraine, who criticized Mr. DeSantis for leaving open the possibility that he would keep up the flow of American assistance.
Mr. DeSantis left himself some wiggle room in his statement, which came in response to a questionnaire that Mr. Carlson had sent to all of the major prospective Republican presidential candidates. The governor did not promise to end all U.S. aid
a President DeSantis rally the public and Congress to send billions of dollars and high-tech weapons for a mere “territorial dispute” of no vital interest to America?
Yet by downplaying the stakes of the conflict to the extent he did, Mr. DeSantis angered many Republicans in the foreign policy establishment who said he had talked himself into a corner. Even if he were to change his mind about Ukraine, how would
2014, 2015, 2017? Why not go back to the Middle Ages. Zelenskiiy, BTW, ran on a platform of cleaning it up and he has been.https://www.theguardian.com/news/2015/feb/04/welcome-to-the-most-corrupt-nation-in-europe-ukraineWell, we could ask what government you're talking about, but you don't reply._____________________Hopefully he will be able to stop sending money to the most corrupt government in Europe
Or ask you to show their corruption, but you don't reply.
You don't list.
You don't show.
You Dodge, Run & Hide.
https://www.coe.int/en/web/corruption/completed-projects/enpi/newsroom-enpi/-/asset_publisher/F0LygN4lv4rX/content/ukraine-most-corrupt-country-in-europe-after-russia?inheritRedirect=false
https://www.brusselstimes.com/40434/eu-assistance-to-ukraine-audit-of-the-most-corrupt-country-in-europe
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-ukraine-eu-summit/corruption-undermining-ukraines-progress-eus-juncker-says-idUSKBN19Y1OA
https://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2016/10/14/how-corruption-corrodes-ukraines-economy/
https://ceoworld.biz/2018/02/27/these-are-the-20-most-corrupt-countries-in-europe-in-2017/
Is that enough or do you need more proof?
If France had required zero corruption there never would have been a U.S.A.
Why won't either of answer the question?
Read the article:
DeSantis, Backing Away From Ukraine, Angers G.O.P. Hawks
Are you for supporting Ukraine or not? Which side of the GQP are you on?
On Wednesday, March 15, 2023 at 2:37:40 PM UTC-7, risky biz wrote:decade and accelerated with Donald J. Trump’s political rise.
On Wednesday, March 15, 2023 at 12:17:34 PM UTC-7, BTSinAustin wrote:
On Wednesday, March 15, 2023 at 2:27:56 PM UTC-4, VegasJerry wrote:
On Wednesday, March 15, 2023 at 11:24:15 AM UTC-7, BTSinAustin wrote:
On Tuesday, March 14, 2023 at 7:25:57 PM UTC-4, VegasJerry wrote:
THE NEW YORK TIMES
DeSantis, Backing Away From Ukraine, Angers G.O.P. Hawks
The Florida governor, who joined Donald Trump
in declaring that defending Ukraine from Russia
was not a vital interest, drew swift condemnations
from establishment Republicans.
Declaring this week that defending Ukraine against Russia’s invasion was not a vital interest for the United States, Gov. Ron DeSantis of Florida cemented a Republican shift away from hawkish foreign policy that has played out over the past
approach that drove former President George W. Bush’s invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan.Mr. Trump and Mr. DeSantis — whose combined support makes up more than 75 percent of Republican primary voters in the nascent 2024 presidential contest — are now largely aligned on Ukraine, signaling a sharp break from the interventionist
including Senator Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, the minority leader. Mr. McConnell and other top congressional Republicans have framed the invasion by President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia as a fight to defend the post-World War II international securityRepublican foreign policy hawks recoiled at Mr. DeSantis’s statement on “Tucker Carlson Tonight” on Fox News on Monday night, in which the governor deviated from the position held by most of the Republican establishment on Capitol Hill,
“DeSantis is wrong and seems to have forgotten the lessons of Ronald Reagan,” said former Representative Liz Cheney of Wyoming, who led the House select committee investigating Mr. Trump’s efforts to overturn the 2020 election.
“This is not ‘a territorial dispute,’” she said in a statement, echoing Mr. DeSantis’s phrasing. “The Ukrainian people are fighting for their freedom. Surrendering to Putin and refusing to defend freedom makes America less safe.”
She went on: “Weakness is provocative and American officials who advocate this type of weakness are Putin’s greatest weapon. Abandoning Ukraine would make broader conflict, including with China and other American adversaries, more likely.
arms.”Senator Lindsey Graham, Republican of South Carolina, said in an interview on Tuesday morning that he “could not disagree more” with Mr. DeSantis’s characterization of the stakes attached to the defense of Ukraine.
“The Neville Chamberlain approach to aggression never ends well,” said Mr. Graham, comparing Mr. DeSantis to the British prime minister who appeased Adolf Hitler. “This is an attempt by Putin to rewrite the map of Europe by force of
prospective Republican presidential field.Senator Marco Rubio of Florida, a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, also took issue with Mr. DeSantis’s comments — a significant rebuke from the senior Republican in Mr. DeSantis’s home state.
“I don’t know what he’s trying to do or what the goal is,” Mr. Rubio, a former presidential candidate, told the conservative radio host Hugh Hewitt.
And Senator John Cornyn of Texas told Politico he was “disturbed” by Mr. DeSantis’s comments.
Mr. Trump has long made his views on foreign intervention clear, railing against the Iraq war in his 2016 campaign, but Mr. DeSantis had sought to avoid being pinned down on one of the most important foreign policy questions facing the
order. Mr. DeSantis and Mr. Trump have unequivocally rejected the idea that the conflict is a war to defend “freedom,” a position espoused by two of their potential rivals for the Republican presidential nomination, former Vice President Mike PenceHis choice of words, describing the conflict as a “territorial dispute,” was telling. By referring to Russia’s unprovoked invasion that way, he dismissed the argument that Mr. Putin’s aggression threatened the postwar international
aid to Ukraine — an omission noticed by some hard-line opponents of support for Ukraine, who criticized Mr. DeSantis for leaving open the possibility that he would keep up the flow of American assistance.Mr. DeSantis left himself some wiggle room in his statement, which came in response to a questionnaire that Mr. Carlson had sent to all of the major prospective Republican presidential candidates. The governor did not promise to end all U.S.
would a President DeSantis rally the public and Congress to send billions of dollars and high-tech weapons for a mere “territorial dispute” of no vital interest to America?Yet by downplaying the stakes of the conflict to the extent he did, Mr. DeSantis angered many Republicans in the foreign policy establishment who said he had talked himself into a corner. Even if he were to change his mind about Ukraine, how
.https://www.theguardian.com/news/2015/feb/04/welcome-to-the-most-corrupt-nation-in-europe-ukraineWell, we could ask what government you're talking about, but you don't reply._____________________Hopefully he will be able to stop sending money to the most corrupt government in Europe
Or ask you to show their corruption, but you don't reply.
You don't list.
You don't show.
You Dodge, Run & Hide.
https://www.coe.int/en/web/corruption/completed-projects/enpi/newsroom-enpi/-/asset_publisher/F0LygN4lv4rX/content/ukraine-most-corrupt-country-in-europe-after-russia?inheritRedirect=false
https://www.brusselstimes.com/40434/eu-assistance-to-ukraine-audit-of-the-most-corrupt-country-in-europe
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-ukraine-eu-summit/corruption-undermining-ukraines-progress-eus-juncker-says-idUSKBN19Y1OA
https://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2016/10/14/how-corruption-corrodes-ukraines-economy/
https://ceoworld.biz/2018/02/27/these-are-the-20-most-corrupt-countries-in-europe-in-2017/
Is that enough or do you need more proof?2014, 2015, 2017? Why not go back to the Middle Ages. Zelenskiiy, BTW, ran on a platform of cleaning it up and he has been.
If France had required zero corruption there never would have been a U.S.A.
Why won't either of answer the question?
Read the article:
DeSantis, Backing Away From Ukraine, Angers G.O.P. Hawks
Are you for supporting Ukraine or not? Which side of the GQP are you on?
On Wednesday, March 15, 2023 at 3:51:20 PM UTC-7, VegasJerry wrote:decade and accelerated with Donald J. Trump’s political rise.
On Wednesday, March 15, 2023 at 2:37:40 PM UTC-7, risky biz wrote:
On Wednesday, March 15, 2023 at 12:17:34 PM UTC-7, BTSinAustin wrote: >>>> On Wednesday, March 15, 2023 at 2:27:56 PM UTC-4, VegasJerry wrote: >>>>> On Wednesday, March 15, 2023 at 11:24:15 AM UTC-7, BTSinAustin wrote: >>>>>> On Tuesday, March 14, 2023 at 7:25:57 PM UTC-4, VegasJerry wrote: >>>>>>> THE NEW YORK TIMES
DeSantis, Backing Away From Ukraine, Angers G.O.P. Hawks
The Florida governor, who joined Donald Trump
in declaring that defending Ukraine from Russia
was not a vital interest, drew swift condemnations
from establishment Republicans.
Declaring this week that defending Ukraine against Russia’s invasion was not a vital interest for the United States, Gov. Ron DeSantis of Florida cemented a Republican shift away from hawkish foreign policy that has played out over the past
approach that drove former President George W. Bush’s invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan.
Mr. Trump and Mr. DeSantis — whose combined support makes up more than 75 percent of Republican primary voters in the nascent 2024 presidential contest — are now largely aligned on Ukraine, signaling a sharp break from the interventionist
including Senator Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, the minority leader. Mr. McConnell and other top congressional Republicans have framed the invasion by President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia as a fight to defend the post-World War II international security
Republican foreign policy hawks recoiled at Mr. DeSantis’s statement on “Tucker Carlson Tonight” on Fox News on Monday night, in which the governor deviated from the position held by most of the Republican establishment on Capitol Hill,
prospective Republican presidential field.
“DeSantis is wrong and seems to have forgotten the lessons of Ronald Reagan,” said former Representative Liz Cheney of Wyoming, who led the House select committee investigating Mr. Trump’s efforts to overturn the 2020 election.
“This is not ‘a territorial dispute,’” she said in a statement, echoing Mr. DeSantis’s phrasing. “The Ukrainian people are fighting for their freedom. Surrendering to Putin and refusing to defend freedom makes America less safe.”
She went on: “Weakness is provocative and American officials who advocate this type of weakness are Putin’s greatest weapon. Abandoning Ukraine would make broader conflict, including with China and other American adversaries, more likely.”
Senator Lindsey Graham, Republican of South Carolina, said in an interview on Tuesday morning that he “could not disagree more” with Mr. DeSantis’s characterization of the stakes attached to the defense of Ukraine.
“The Neville Chamberlain approach to aggression never ends well,” said Mr. Graham, comparing Mr. DeSantis to the British prime minister who appeased Adolf Hitler. “This is an attempt by Putin to rewrite the map of Europe by force of arms.”
Senator Marco Rubio of Florida, a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, also took issue with Mr. DeSantis’s comments — a significant rebuke from the senior Republican in Mr. DeSantis’s home state.
“I don’t know what he’s trying to do or what the goal is,” Mr. Rubio, a former presidential candidate, told the conservative radio host Hugh Hewitt.
And Senator John Cornyn of Texas told Politico he was “disturbed” by Mr. DeSantis’s comments.
Mr. Trump has long made his views on foreign intervention clear, railing against the Iraq war in his 2016 campaign, but Mr. DeSantis had sought to avoid being pinned down on one of the most important foreign policy questions facing the
Mr. DeSantis and Mr. Trump have unequivocally rejected the idea that the conflict is a war to defend “freedom,” a position espoused by two of their potential rivals for the Republican presidential nomination, former Vice President Mike Pence and
His choice of words, describing the conflict as a “territorial dispute,” was telling. By referring to Russia’s unprovoked invasion that way, he dismissed the argument that Mr. Putin’s aggression threatened the postwar international order.
to Ukraine — an omission noticed by some hard-line opponents of support for Ukraine, who criticized Mr. DeSantis for leaving open the possibility that he would keep up the flow of American assistance.
Mr. DeSantis left himself some wiggle room in his statement, which came in response to a questionnaire that Mr. Carlson had sent to all of the major prospective Republican presidential candidates. The governor did not promise to end all U.S. aid
would a President DeSantis rally the public and Congress to send billions of dollars and high-tech weapons for a mere “territorial dispute” of no vital interest to America?
Yet by downplaying the stakes of the conflict to the extent he did, Mr. DeSantis angered many Republicans in the foreign policy establishment who said he had talked himself into a corner. Even if he were to change his mind about Ukraine, how
.2014, 2015, 2017? Why not go back to the Middle Ages. Zelenskiiy, BTW, ran on a platform of cleaning it up and he has been.https://www.theguardian.com/news/2015/feb/04/welcome-to-the-most-corrupt-nation-in-europe-ukraineWell, we could ask what government you're talking about, but you don't reply._____________________Hopefully he will be able to stop sending money to the most corrupt government in Europe
Or ask you to show their corruption, but you don't reply.
You don't list.
You don't show.
You Dodge, Run & Hide.
https://www.coe.int/en/web/corruption/completed-projects/enpi/newsroom-enpi/-/asset_publisher/F0LygN4lv4rX/content/ukraine-most-corrupt-country-in-europe-after-russia?inheritRedirect=false
https://www.brusselstimes.com/40434/eu-assistance-to-ukraine-audit-of-the-most-corrupt-country-in-europe
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-ukraine-eu-summit/corruption-undermining-ukraines-progress-eus-juncker-says-idUSKBN19Y1OA
https://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2016/10/14/how-corruption-corrodes-ukraines-economy/
https://ceoworld.biz/2018/02/27/these-are-the-20-most-corrupt-countries-in-europe-in-2017/
Is that enough or do you need more proof?
If France had required zero corruption there never would have been a U.S.A.
Why won't either of answer the question?
*** Knew you couldn't answer *************************
Read the article:
DeSantis, Backing Away From Ukraine, Angers G.O.P. Hawks
Are you for supporting Ukraine or not? Which side of the GQP are you on?
*** Knew you couldn't answer *************************
LOL. It's SO easy to make you Run & Hide....
On Tuesday, March 14, 2023 at 4:25:57 PM UTC-7, VegasJerry wrote:
< Insert bullshit here>
Why should I hate Russia?
They are defending the ethnic Russians in Ukraine
who were being
killed for 9 years after the CIA coup to install a CIA backed Nazi government.
We lied to Russia repeatedly not following the Minsk agreements, spreading NATO east after promising not to.
Biden committed the greatest environmental terrorist attack in history blowing up Nordstream and blaming it on Russians.
Russia supplied cheap energy to the world which made the entire world a better place.
Russia supplies cheap metals in the world that are used in everything and makes the world a better place.
Russia exports more wheat than anyone and feeds the world.
Russia has a lot better future than the United States and the US Govt knows it and that's why they want to control Russia and it's resources...
DeSantis saying Ukraine support is not ‘vital’ national interest sparks backlash in GOP
https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/14/politics/desantis-republicans-ukraine-aid/index.html
On Wednesday, March 15, 2023 at 4:27:24 PM UTC-4, VegasJerry wrote:.
DeSantis saying Ukraine support is not ‘vital’ national interest sparks backlash in GOP
https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/14/politics/desantis-republicans-ukraine-aid/index.html
Backlash from Lindsey Graham LOL
That old fag is so in bed with the Neolibs that I am surprised he hasn't changed parties yet
Now that was easy. You're on the “Neville Chamberlain” isolationist side. Why couldn't you havereplied sooner? (Did you have to check with FOX?)
On Tuesday, March 14, 2023 at 4:25:57 PM UTC-7, VegasJerry wrote:
< Insert bullshit here>
We lied to Russia repeatedly not following the Minsk agreements, spreading NATO east after promising not to.
Biden committed the greatest environmental terrorist attack in history blowing up Nordstream and blaming it on Russians.
Russia supplied cheap energy to the world which made the entire world a better place.
Russia supplies cheap metals in the world that are used in everything and makes the world a better place.
Russia exports more wheat than anyone and feeds the world.
Russia has a lot better future than the United States and the US Govt knows it and that's why they want to control Russia and it's resources...
On Tuesday, March 14, 2023 at 4:25:57 PM UTC-7, VegasJerry wrote:
< Insert bullshit here>
Why should I hate Russia? They are defending the ethnic Russians in Ukraine who were being killed for 9 years
We lied to Russia repeatedly not following the Minsk agreements, spreading NATO east after promising not to.
Biden committed the greatest environmental terrorist attack in history blowing up Nordstream and blaming it on Russians.
Russia supplied cheap energy to the world which made the entire world a better place.
Russia supplies cheap metals in the world that are used in everything and makes the world a better place.
Russia exports more wheat than anyone and feeds the world.
Russia has a lot better future than the United States and the US Govt knows it and that's why they want to control Russia and it's resources...
On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 5:47:38 AM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
On Tuesday, March 14, 2023 at 4:25:57 PM UTC-7, VegasJerry wrote:
< Insert bullshit here>
Why should I hate Russia?For threatening the freed world? (List on request).
They are defending the ethnic Russians in UkraineNo, there are not. They are trying to rebuild the old Soviet Russia. They’ve kidnapping people to take to Russia. They’ve bombing school and hospitals. They admit they’re rebuilding the USSR.
'Born to a Ukrainian 👉Jewish👈 family, Zelenskyy grew up as a native Russian speaker in Kryvyi Rih, a major city of Dnipropetrovsk Oblast in central Ukraine. Prior to his acting career, he obtained a degree in law from the Kyiv National EconomicUniversity. He then pursued a career in comedy and created the production company Kvartal 95, which produced films, cartoons, and TV shows including the TV series Servant of the People, in which Zelenskyy played the role of the Ukrainian president. The
Zelenskyy announced his candidacy in the 2019 presidential election on the evening of 31 December 2018, alongside the New Year's Eve address of then-president Petro Poroshenko on the TV channel 1+1. A political outsider, he had already become one ofthe frontrunners in opinion polls for the election. He won the election with 👉73.23 percent👈 of the vote in the second round, defeating Poroshenko. He has positioned himself as an anti-establishment and anti-corruption figure. As president,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volodymyr_Zelenskyy
On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 8:15:55 AM UTC-7, VegasJerry wrote:
On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 5:47:38 AM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
On Tuesday, March 14, 2023 at 4:25:57 PM UTC-7, VegasJerry wrote:
< Insert bullshit here>
Bullshit. That's just what the CIA wants you to believe and they plant that suggestion in all their automata like Peter Zeihan. You see if you don't buy into that line, the CIA loses purpose and power.Why should I hate Russia?For threatening the freed world? (List on request).
They are defending the ethnic Russians in UkraineNo, there are not. They are trying to rebuild the old Soviet Russia. They’ve kidnapping people to take to Russia. They’ve bombing school and hospitals. They admit they’re rebuilding the USSR.
On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 8:15:55 AM UTC-7, VegasJerry wrote:.
On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 5:47:38 AM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
On Tuesday, March 14, 2023 at 4:25:57 PM UTC-7, VegasJerry wrote:
< Insert bullshit here>
Why should I hate Russia?For threatening the freed world? (List on request).
They are defending the ethnic Russians in UkraineNo, there are not. They are trying to rebuild the old Soviet Russia. They’ve kidnapping people to take to Russia. They’ve bombing school and hospitals. They admit they’re rebuilding the USSR.
Bullshit.
That's just what the CIA wants you to believe
You see if you don't buy into that line, the CIA loses purpose and power.
On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 3:04:20 PM UTC-7, risky biz wrote:University. He then pursued a career in comedy and created the production company Kvartal 95, which produced films, cartoons, and TV shows including the TV series Servant of the People, in which Zelenskyy played the role of the Ukrainian president. The
'Born to a Ukrainian 👉Jewish👈 family, Zelenskyy grew up as a native Russian speaker in Kryvyi Rih, a major city of Dnipropetrovsk Oblast in central Ukraine. Prior to his acting career, he obtained a degree in law from the Kyiv National Economic
the frontrunners in opinion polls for the election. He won the election with 👉73.23 percent👈 of the vote in the second round, defeating Poroshenko. He has positioned himself as an anti-establishment and anti-corruption figure. As president,Zelenskyy announced his candidacy in the 2019 presidential election on the evening of 31 December 2018, alongside the New Year's Eve address of then-president Petro Poroshenko on the TV channel 1+1. A political outsider, he had already become one of
.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volodymyr_Zelenskyy
Kinda reminds me of the movie Casino where the mob(CIA) had to bring some guy with a clean face to "purchase" the casino....similarly, the CIA backed NGO brought in Zelensky to run in their colour revolution. CIA does the same thing in all countries...and if any country doesn't do what the CIA wants, they have the NGO stationed there fund opposition, riots, violence. Same shit worked in 2020 when the Deep State wanted Trump to lose.
On Wednesday, March 22, 2023 at 8:40:52 AM UTC-4, jack roth wrote:.
On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 8:15:55 AM UTC-7, VegasJerry wrote:
On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 5:47:38 AM UTC-7, jack roth wrote:
On Tuesday, March 14, 2023 at 4:25:57 PM UTC-7, VegasJerry wrote:
< Insert bullshit here>
Putin has said in public that he wants to rebuild the USSR.Bullshit. That's just what the CIA wants you to believe and they plant that suggestion in all their automata like Peter Zeihan. You see if you don't buy into that line, the CIA loses purpose and power.Why should I hate Russia?For threatening the freed world? (List on request).
They are defending the ethnic Russians in UkraineNo, there are not. They are trying to rebuild the old Soviet Russia. They’ve kidnapping people to take to Russia. They’ve bombing school and hospitals. They admit they’re rebuilding the USSR.
The Russians have admitted taking children "for humanitarian reasons"
They’re NOT trying to rebuild the old Soviet Russia? So why did he say he was when he took Crimea?
Oh, and repeat that part about him not kidnapping families and kids and taking them to Russia.
And that they’re not bombing schools and hospitals. We could use the laugh.You mean abandoned schools and hospitals that Ukranian soldiers are hiding in and/or storing weapons?
Go back and eat more of that FOX shit and puke it up somewhere else.Hey dumbass, I haven't had broadcast TV in many years. I wouldn't even know who was on Fox.
(This will be the second post he's run from because he can't answer shit).
On Wednesday, March 22, 2023 at 8:22:11 AM UTC-7, VegasJerry wrote:.
They’re NOT trying to rebuild the old Soviet Russia? So why did he say he was when he took Crimea?
Hey, dumb dumb, Crimea is almost 100% ethnic Russians and historically always has been Russian,
so, you don't have to want to rebuild the Soviet Union to maybe want Ethnic Russians to be protected
under the Russia flag.
.Oh, and repeat that part about him not kidnapping families and kids and taking them to Russia.
You mean all the kids they took to safety to avoid the war...
kidnapping, is it?as opposed to the Ukraine leadership that openly expressed desire to kill them? BTW, you know Russia has been getting in contract with Ukrainian refugees in Europe and paying their way to come pick up their kids in Russia, dumb dumb. Not exactly
.And that they’re not bombing schools and hospitals. We could use the laugh.
You mean abandoned schools and hospitals that Ukranian soldiers are hiding in and/or storing weapons?
.Go back and eat more of that FOX shit and puke it up somewhere else.
Hey dumbass, I haven't had broadcast TV in many years.
(This will be the second post he's run from because he can't answer shit).
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