I just finished watching a film about the cheating of Ultimate Bet in and around 2008. Can't believe it was that long ago. How time flies. I've seen the film before, but a lot of it had faded from my memory. The film is over an hour long and is
entitled "Ultimatebeat". How many of you RGPers watched it or remember it well? It's mindblowing.

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On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 4:16:05 PM UTC-5, Paul Popinjay wrote:

I just finished watching a film about the cheating of Ultimate Bet in and around 2008. Can't believe it was that long ago. How time flies. I've seen the film before, but a lot of it had faded from my memory. The film is over an hour long and is

entitled "Ultimatebeat". How many of you RGPers watched it or remember it well? It's mindblowing.

I was thinking about that the other day. Imagine how long they would have go away with it if they went stupid. Just use it to get an edge, not win every hand. LOL

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On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 1:16:05 PM UTC-8, Paul Popinjay wrote:

I just finished watching a film about the cheating of Ultimate Bet in and around 2008. Can't believe it was that long ago. How time flies. I've seen the film before, but a lot of it had faded from my memory. The film is over an hour long and is

entitled "Ultimatebeat". How many of you RGPers watched it or remember it well? It's mindblowing.
.

Was that the Full Tilt scandal?

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On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 8:54:24 AM UTC-8, BTSinAustin wrote:

On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 4:16:05 PM UTC-5, Paul Popinjay wrote:

I just finished watching a film about the cheating of Ultimate Bet in and around 2008. Can't believe it was that long ago. How time flies. I've seen the film before, but a lot of it had faded from my memory. The film is over an hour long and is

entitled "Ultimatebeat". How many of you RGPers watched it or remember it well? It's mindblowing.

I was thinking about that the other day. Imagine how long they would have go away with it if they went stupid. Just use it to get an edge, not win every hand. LOL

.

Yea. Arrogance and greed. The guys that figured out how to beat Blackjack could have made a 'good' living forever. And the guy that beat Keno was just stupid and easy to catch.

Vegas does it right. If you're a known cheater, you're locked out of the casino. If you win big at craps, they follow you around in the casino.

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On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 12:06:26 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:

Was that the Full Tilt scandal?

Did I say it was the Full Tilt Scandal? Well? Did I, faggot?

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On Wednesday, March 8, 2023 at 11:04:38 AM UTC-8, Paul Popinjay wrote:

On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 12:06:26 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:

Was that the Full Tilt scandal?

.

Did I say it was the Full Tilt Scandal? Well? Did I, faggot?

.
Did I say you did? Well? Did I, faggot?

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On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 12:33:42 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:

On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 8:54:24 AM UTC-8, BTSinAustin wrote:

On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 4:16:05 PM UTC-5, Paul Popinjay wrote:

I just finished watching a film about the cheating of Ultimate Bet in and around 2008. Can't believe it was that long ago. How time flies. I've seen the film before, but a lot of it had faded from my memory. The film is over an hour long and is

entitled "Ultimatebeat". How many of you RGPers watched it or remember it well? It's mindblowing.

I was thinking about that the other day. Imagine how long they would have go away with it if they went stupid. Just use it to get an edge, not win every hand. LOL

.

~ Yea. Arrogance and greed. The guys that figured out how to beat Blackjack could have made a 'good' living forever.


How would someone make a 'good' living playing blackjack? Did you get that from MSNBC?

And the guy that beat Keno was just stupid and easy to catch.

Vegas does it right. If you're a known cheater, you're locked out of the casino. If you win big at craps, they follow you around in the casino.

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On Wednesday, March 8, 2023 at 4:19:16 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:

On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 12:33:42 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:

On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 8:54:24 AM UTC-8, BTSinAustin wrote:

On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 4:16:05 PM UTC-5, Paul Popinjay wrote:

I just finished watching a film about the cheating of Ultimate Bet in and around 2008. Can't believe it was that long ago. How time flies. I've seen the film before, but a lot of it had faded from my memory. The film is over an hour long and is

entitled "Ultimatebeat". How many of you RGPers watched it or remember it well? It's mindblowing.

I was thinking about that the other day. Imagine how long they would have go away with it if they went stupid. Just use it to get an edge, not win every hand. LOL

.

~ Yea. Arrogance and greed. The guys that figured out how to beat Blackjack could have made a 'good' living forever.

How would someone make a 'good' living playing blackjack?

But using the system. JFC! Didn't you know a system was worked out that allowed you to beat Blackjack?

Did you get that from MSNBC?

No, from the people that INVENTED the system.

JFC! You're dense....
.
.
.
.

And the guy that beat Keno was just stupid and easy to catch.

Vegas does it right. If you're a known cheater, you're locked out of the casino. If you win big at craps, they follow you around in the casino.

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On Wednesday, March 8, 2023 at 4:30:20 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:

No, from the people that INVENTED the system.

There's no system that can beat the casinos. The casinos will always win. Dumb ass.

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On Wednesday, March 8, 2023 at 7:20:07 PM UTC-8, Paul Popinjay wrote:

On Wednesday, March 8, 2023 at 4:30:20 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:

No, from the people that INVENTED the system.

There's no system that can beat the casinos. The casinos will always win. Dumb ass.

Didn't say their was, dumbass. It was about Blackjack.

You're as bad a troll dodger as pickle..

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On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 7:35:29 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:

On Wednesday, March 8, 2023 at 7:20:07 PM UTC-8, Paul Popinjay wrote:

There's no system that can beat the casinos. The casinos will always win. Dumb ass.

Didn't say their was, dumbass. It was about Blackjack.

Then nobody beats blackjack, jackass.

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On 3/9/2023 10:42 AM, Paul Popinjay wrote:

On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 7:35:29 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:

On Wednesday, March 8, 2023 at 7:20:07 PM UTC-8, Paul Popinjay wrote:

There's no system that can beat the casinos. The casinos will always win. Dumb ass.

Didn't say their was, dumbass. It was about Blackjack.

Then nobody beats blackjack, jackass.

Apparently, he played a hand one time and he won ... he thinks you can
"beat" blackjack. I guess by his way of thinking, he did indeed beat blackjack.



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On March 9, Paul Popinjay wrote:

Then nobody beats blackjack, jackass.

Does anybody beat blackjack, today, when the casinos are
on the lookout?

If so, how much can they pull, before the heat intensifies?
What is 'make a living', in blackjack?


--
Rich

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On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 10:33:51 AM UTC-8, RichD wrote:

Does anybody beat blackjack, today, when the casinos are
on the lookout?

If so, how much can they pull, before the heat intensifies?
What is 'make a living', in blackjack?

Jerrytard has been telling us for years that no one beats the casinos. Now suddenly he has "discovered" winning blackjack players. Although, I am quite sure he knows next to nothing about the history of winning blackjack play. And yes, even today
there are very successful players. Traditional counting methods are not the only way to skin a cat.

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On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 8:42:27 AM UTC-8, Paul Popinjay wrote:

On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 7:35:29 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:

On Wednesday, March 8, 2023 at 7:20:07 PM UTC-8, Paul Popinjay wrote:

There's no system that can beat the casinos. The casinos will always win. Dumb ass.

Didn't say their was, dumbass. It was about Blackjack.

Then nobody beats blackjack, jackass.

https://tinyurl.com/292zxxp9

Read it and weep, jackass...

(Can you imagine there's somebody out there that didn't know there was a system to beat blackjack?)

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On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 10:33:51 AM UTC-8, RichD wrote:

On March 9, Paul Popinjay wrote:

Then nobody beats blackjack, jackass.

.

Does anybody beat blackjack, today, when the casinos are
on the lookout?

Not if they intercept the system. Here in Vegas, they will reshuffle if you change the size of your bet.
Of if you make big bet changes if they're using a shoe.

If so, how much can they pull, before the heat intensifies?

They can't, now. You no longer see more than two deals before a shuffle. And with 6 or 7 deck
shoes, they watch the betting..

What is 'make a living', in blackjack?

It was, constant winning.

--
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On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 1:54:22 PM UTC-8, Paul Popinjay wrote:

On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 10:33:51 AM UTC-8, RichD wrote:

Does anybody beat blackjack, today, when the casinos are
on the lookout?

If so, how much can they pull, before the heat intensifies?
What is 'make a living', in blackjack?

Jerrytard has been telling us for years that no one beats the casinos. Now suddenly he has "discovered"
winning blackjack players.

Popinjay has been twisting statements for years; telling us stories he knows are lies. Here, "suddenly"
he changes my statements, and now he's caught, again.

Although, I am quite sure he knows next to nothing about the history of winning blackjack play.

You just stated that "No one can win at Blackjack." Now you're proving my above statement...

And yes, even today there are very successful players.
Traditional counting methods are not the only way to skin a cat.

But you said, "Nobody beats blackjack, jackass."

Gee, who's the jackass now?

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On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 3:04:03 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:

On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 10:33:51 AM UTC-8, RichD wrote:

On March 9, Paul Popinjay wrote:

Then nobody beats blackjack, jackass.

.

Does anybody beat blackjack, today, when the casinos are
on the lookout?

Not if they intercept the system. Here in Vegas, they will reshuffle if you change the size of your bet.
Of if you make big bet changes if they're using a shoe.

If so, how much can they pull, before the heat intensifies?

They can't, now. You no longer see more than two deals before a shuffle. And with 6 or 7 deck
shoes, they watch the betting..

What is 'make a living', in blackjack?

It was, constant winning.

--
Rich

The winning system was counteracted almost instantly, Jerry. Did you forget he published it in a fucking book? I read it half a century ago. I used to count in Reno, mid to late 70s. The best I could do was cover the cost of the trip. It doesn't take
them long at all to recognize that you're counting if you maximize. To avoid interference you have to bet so low that you can't make any real money.

So, no. You can't make a 'good' living forever by counting, or even a mediocre living.

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On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 2:58:42 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:

On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 8:42:27 AM UTC-8, Paul Popinjay wrote:

On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 7:35:29 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:

Then nobody beats blackjack, jackass.

https://tinyurl.com/292zxxp9

Read it and weep, jackass...

There's books on beating video poker too, fuckface, yet you have insisted over and over that it can't be done. So YOU read it and weep, moron.

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On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 3:04:03 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:

They can't, now. You no longer see more than two deals before a shuffle. And with 6 or 7 deck
shoes, they watch the betting..

Nobody deals a 7 deck shoe, you fucking caveman.

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On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 6:04:03 PM UTC-5, VegasJerry wrote:

On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 10:33:51 AM UTC-8, RichD wrote:

On March 9, Paul Popinjay wrote:

Then nobody beats blackjack, jackass.

.

Does anybody beat blackjack, today, when the casinos are
on the lookout?

Not if they intercept the system. Here in Vegas, they will reshuffle if you change the size of your bet.
Of if you make big bet changes if they're using a shoe.

If so, how much can they pull, before the heat intensifies?

They can't, now. You no longer see more than two deals before a shuffle. And with 6 or 7 deck
shoes, they watch the betting..

What is 'make a living', in blackjack?

It was, constant winning.

--
Rich

Constant? You can go a long time before a good count.

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On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 8:42:27 AM UTC-8, Paul Popinjay wrote:

Then nobody beats blackjack, jackass.

I don't think these days blackjack is very beatable at all. 6 to 5 tables are outright unbeatable. Single deck(if you can find it) has automatic shufflers shuffling each hand. Even if you find a double deck with 3 to 2 BJ, they often don't get very
deep into the decks. And, if you move around your bets much at all, they might stop you pretty quick and if you do play a long time and win, they'll tap you on the shoulder, brush you off, ban you, etc. if you don't take the effort to move around a
lot and that's hard to do on the best nights because there might be only one favorable table in the house. Even if you have a favorable table, there are actually some dealers you need to avoid because they track the cards themselves and if a bunch of
small cards come out on the first deal, they might just shuffle up....old asian females are legendary for that. The types of dealers that were great to play against mostly don't exist anymore like really old white guys who aren't 100% mental capacity
and give off tells or the young white girls who are ditzy and don't know WTF they are doing if you get them into a conversation. It's not even worth trying these days.

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On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 2:58:42 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:

On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 8:42:27 AM UTC-8, Paul Popinjay wrote:

On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 7:35:29 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:

On Wednesday, March 8, 2023 at 7:20:07 PM UTC-8, Paul Popinjay wrote:

There's no system that can beat the casinos. The casinos will always win. Dumb ass.

Didn't say their was, dumbass. It was about Blackjack.

Then nobody beats blackjack, jackass.

https://tinyurl.com/292zxxp9

Read it and weep, jackass...

(Can you imagine there's somebody out there that didn't know there was a system to beat blackjack?)

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On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 10:33:51 AM UTC-8, RichD wrote:

On March 9, Paul Popinjay wrote:

Then nobody beats blackjack, jackass.

Does anybody beat blackjack, today, when the casinos are
on the lookout?

I honestly think they are on much less of a look out than they used to be. A lot of BJ games are 6 to 5 these days and your only chance of beating those tables is with a huge spread that you'll never get down.

If so, how much can they pull, before the heat intensifies?

I've heard of guys being tapped on the shoulder within 45minutes at a new place. I, myself, have had pit bosses recognize me and make the dealer shuffle up a double deck every single hand against me as soon as I sat down.

What is 'make a living', in blackjack?

Like poker....1 or 2 big bets/hr?

--
Rich

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On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 2:58:42 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:

On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 8:42:27 AM UTC-8, Paul Popinjay wrote:

On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 7:35:29 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:

On Wednesday, March 8, 2023 at 7:20:07 PM UTC-8, Paul Popinjay wrote:

There's no system that can beat the casinos. The casinos will always win. Dumb ass.

Didn't say their was, dumbass. It was about Blackjack.

Then nobody beats blackjack, jackass.

https://tinyurl.com/292zxxp9

Read it and weep, jackass...

(Can you imagine there's somebody out there that didn't know there was a system to beat blackjack?)

Those books mostly suck and won't let you beat BJ these days. The best book nobody talks about any more.

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On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 8:30:02 PM UTC-8, Tim Norfolk wrote:

Constant? You can go a long time before a good count.

I found it most irritating when the count was even all the time. If the count is really bad, you can really hit your stiff hands a lot more. It's like the more extreme the deck is either way, the more accurate your strategy is.

I'd also pay quite a bit of attention to the aces. If a lot of aces come out right away, it's time to stop playing until the dealer shuffles.

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On Friday, March 10, 2023 at 1:42:45 AM UTC-8, jack roth wrote:

On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 8:42:27 AM UTC-8, Paul Popinjay wrote:

Then nobody beats blackjack, jackass.

I don't think these days blackjack is very beatable at all.

I'm being sarcastic and fucking with Retard Jerry. Blackjack is very beatable, even these days. James Grosjean is the man if you want good reading. Expensive. The only reason I am posting is to fuck with idiot Jerry because he has been saying for
years that no one beats the casino, which proves what a retard he is. He insists that video poker cannot be beaten, (because it's a slot), which is so ridiculous it does not deserve a response. Jerry is one of the most clueless RGPers in all of RGP
history. Seriously, he is one stupid mutherfucker. By the way, here in California, Spanish 21 is the game to play. Very beatable, and low heat. Actually, almost no heat.

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On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 3:16:05 PM UTC-6, Paul Popinjay wrote:

I just finished watching a film about the cheating of Ultimate Bet in and around 2008. Can't believe it was that long ago. How time flies. I've seen the film before, but a lot of it had faded from my memory. The film is over an hour long and is

entitled "Ultimatebeat". How many of you RGPers watched it or remember it well? It's mindblowing.


Never saw it, but took a look at it the other day. Gamblers are kind of sad, really. Doesn't appear to be much comeuppance to the story.

C

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On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 7:00:06 PM UTC-6, risky biz wrote:

On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 3:04:03 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:

On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 10:33:51 AM UTC-8, RichD wrote:

On March 9, Paul Popinjay wrote:

Then nobody beats blackjack, jackass.

.

Does anybody beat blackjack, today, when the casinos are
on the lookout?

Not if they intercept the system. Here in Vegas, they will reshuffle if you change the size of your bet.
Of if you make big bet changes if they're using a shoe.

If so, how much can they pull, before the heat intensifies?

They can't, now. You no longer see more than two deals before a shuffle. And with 6 or 7 deck
shoes, they watch the betting..

What is 'make a living', in blackjack?

It was, constant winning.

--
Rich

The winning system was counteracted almost instantly, Jerry. Did you forget he published it in a fucking book? I read it half a century ago. I used to count in Reno, mid to late 70s. The best I could do was cover the cost of the trip. It doesn't take

them long at all to recognize that you're counting if you maximize. To avoid interference you have to bet so low that you can't make any real money.

So, no. You can't make a 'good' living forever by counting, or even a mediocre living.

There were ways to mitigate detection. I played around with counting for a while. Balanced system and then unbalanced when KO came out. I didn't need to make a living at it. I never spread enough to make much. I didn't like the possibility of heat.
At the time I could do so much better playing video poker with zero heat. The casino would practically be begging me to play, in fact. So much easier.... One time I was at a table at the Dust doing my little thing. The count ran really positive and
just then a guy comes over from another table and starts betting big stacks of black. It wasn't a coincidence.

C

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On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 2:06:26 PM UTC-6, VegasJerry wrote:

On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 1:16:05 PM UTC-8, Paul Popinjay wrote:

I just finished watching a film about the cheating of Ultimate Bet in and around 2008. Can't believe it was that long ago. How time flies. I've seen the film before, but a lot of it had faded from my memory. The film is over an hour long and is

entitled "Ultimatebeat". How many of you RGPers watched it or remember it well? It's mindblowing.

.

Was that the Full Tilt scandal?

The Full Tilt scandal was a bunch of poker players running a company to prove to themselves and the universe that they were bad at business.

C

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On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 5:00:06 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:

On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 3:04:03 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:

On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 10:33:51 AM UTC-8, RichD wrote:

On March 9, Paul Popinjay wrote:

Then nobody beats blackjack, jackass.

.

Does anybody beat blackjack, today, when the casinos are
on the lookout?

.

Not if they intercept the system. Here in Vegas, they will reshuffle if you change the size of your bet.
Of if you make big bet changes if they're using a shoe.

.

*** Hey, dipshit, did you miss this? ***
.
.

If so, how much can they pull, before the heat intensifies?

.

They can't, now. You no longer see more than two deals before a shuffle. And with 6 or 7 deck shoes, they watch the betting..

.

*** Hey, dipshit, did you miss this part, too? ***
.
.

What is 'make a living', in blackjack?

It was, constant winning.

--
Rich

.

The winning system was counteracted almost instantly, Jerry.

Yea, I just said that, above ***
.
.

Did you forget he published it in a fucking book?

Did you not read what I wrote above?
.

I read it half a century ago. I used to count in Reno, mid to late 70s. The best I could do was cover
the cost of the trip. It doesn't take them long at all to recognize that you're counting if you maximize.

LIKE I SAID ABOVE? ***

To avoid interference you have to bet so low that you can't make any real money.

So, no. You can't make a 'good' living forever by counting, or even a mediocre living.

LIKE I SAID ABOVE? ***

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On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 5:04:08 PM UTC-8, Paul Popinjay wrote:

On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 2:58:42 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:

On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 8:42:27 AM UTC-8, Paul Popinjay wrote:

On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 7:35:29 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:

Then nobody beats blackjack, jackass.

https://tinyurl.com/292zxxp9

Read it and weep, jackass...

There's books on beating video poker too, fuckface,...

Yea, and there's book on how to become rich, fuckface.
The author is that only one getting rich.

yet you have insisted over and over that it can't be done.

Then you should have no trouble showing that.

So YOU read it and weep, moron.

I will, as soon as you post them.

(Moron) LOL

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On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 8:30:02 PM UTC-8, Tim Norfolk wrote:

On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 6:04:03 PM UTC-5, VegasJerry wrote:

On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 10:33:51 AM UTC-8, RichD wrote:

On March 9, Paul Popinjay wrote:

Then nobody beats blackjack, jackass.

.

Does anybody beat blackjack, today, when the casinos are
on the lookout?

Not if they intercept the system. Here in Vegas, they will reshuffle if you change the size of your bet.
Of if you make big bet changes if they're using a shoe.

If so, how much can they pull, before the heat intensifies?

They can't, now. You no longer see more than two deals before a shuffle. And with 6 or 7 deck
shoes, they watch the betting..

What is 'make a living', in blackjack?

It was, constant winning.

--
Rich

Constant? You can go a long time before a good count.

That's why you wait (in order to be a 'constant' winner).

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On Friday, March 10, 2023 at 1:42:45 AM UTC-8, jack roth wrote:

On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 8:42:27 AM UTC-8, Paul Popinjay wrote:

Then nobody beats blackjack, jackass.

I don't think these days blackjack is very beatable at all. 6 to 5 tables are outright unbeatable. Single deck(if you can find it) has automatic shufflers shuffling each hand. Even if you find a double deck with 3 to 2 BJ, they often don't get very

deep into the decks. And, if you move around your bets much at all, they might stop you pretty quick and if you do play a long time and win, they'll tap you on the shoulder, brush you off, ban you, etc. if you don't take the effort to move around a lot
and that's hard to do on the best nights because there might be only one favorable table in the house. Even if you have a favorable table, there are actually some dealers you need to avoid because they track the cards themselves and if a bunch of small
cards come out on the first deal, they might just shuffle up....old asian females are legendary for that. The types of dealers that were great to play against mostly don't exist anymore like really old white guys who aren't 100% mental capacity and give
off tells or the young white girls who are ditzy and don't know WTF they are doing if you get them into a conversation. It's not even worth trying these days.
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When I was working at the Golden Nugget, a dealer that had a 'Negative box" six days (if I remember right) in a row, got fired.

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On Friday, March 10, 2023 at 2:56:53 AM UTC-8, Paul Popinjay wrote:

On Friday, March 10, 2023 at 1:42:45 AM UTC-8, jack roth wrote:

On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 8:42:27 AM UTC-8, Paul Popinjay wrote:

Then nobody beats blackjack, jackass.

I don't think these days blackjack is very beatable at all.

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I'm being sarcastic and fucking with Retard Jerry.

LOL @ you thinking you could fuck with me.
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Blackjack is very beatable, even these days.

(See what I mean?)
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The only reason I am posting is to fuck with idiot Jerry because he has been saying for years that no one
beats the casino, which proves what a retard he is.

Heh. As in, "Show me who's making a living beating video poker."
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He insists that video poker cannot be beaten, (because it's a slot), which is so ridiculous it does not deserve a response.

Because your 'Response' has nobody...
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Jerry is one of the most clueless RGPers in all of RGP history. Seriously, he is one stupid mutherfucker.
By the way, here in California, Spanish 21 is the game to play. Very beatable, and low heat. Actually, almost no heat.

And the winners are _____________!

(LOL)

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On Friday, March 10, 2023 at 7:26:36 AM UTC-8, C Mayhem wrote:

On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 7:00:06 PM UTC-6, risky biz wrote:

On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 3:04:03 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:

On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 10:33:51 AM UTC-8, RichD wrote:

On March 9, Paul Popinjay wrote:

Then nobody beats blackjack, jackass.

.

Does anybody beat blackjack, today, when the casinos are
on the lookout?

Not if they intercept the system. Here in Vegas, they will reshuffle if you change the size of your bet.
Of if you make big bet changes if they're using a shoe.

If so, how much can they pull, before the heat intensifies?

They can't, now. You no longer see more than two deals before a shuffle. And with 6 or 7 deck
shoes, they watch the betting..

What is 'make a living', in blackjack?

It was, constant winning.

--
Rich

The winning system was counteracted almost instantly, Jerry. Did you forget he published it in a fucking book? I read it half a century ago. I used to count in Reno, mid to late 70s. The best I could do was cover the cost of the trip. It doesn't take

them long at all to recognize that you're counting if you maximize. To avoid interference you have to bet so low that you can't make any real money.

So, no. You can't make a 'good' living forever by counting, or even a mediocre living.

There were ways to mitigate detection. I played around with counting for a while. Balanced system and then unbalanced when KO came out. I didn't need to make a living at it. I never spread enough to make much. I didn't like the possibility of heat. At

the time I could do so much better playing video poker with zero heat.
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The casino would practically be begging me to play, in fact.

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LOL!

SR
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So much easier.... One time I was at a table at the Dust doing my little thing. The count ran really positive and just then a guy comes over from another table and starts betting big stacks of black. It wasn't a coincidence.

C

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~ On Friday, March 10, 2023 at 12:11:54 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:

'The guys that figured out how to beat Blackjack could have made a 'good' living forever.'


The guy (not guys) who figured out how to beat Blackjack published it in a book. The casinos immediately adjusted. NO ONE could have made a 'good' living forever.'

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On Friday, March 10, 2023 at 7:29:31 AM UTC-8, C Mayhem wrote:

On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 2:06:26 PM UTC-6, VegasJerry wrote:

On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 1:16:05 PM UTC-8, Paul Popinjay wrote:

I just finished watching a film about the cheating of Ultimate Bet in and around 2008. Can't believe it was that long ago. How time flies. I've seen the film before, but a lot of it had faded from my memory. The film is over an hour long and is

entitled "Ultimatebeat". How many of you RGPers watched it or remember it well? It's mindblowing.

.

Was that the Full Tilt scandal?

.

The Full Tilt scandal was a bunch of poker players running a company to prove to themselves and the universe
that they were bad at business.

Tell that to Chris Ferguson. I believe he cleared over $40 million...

C

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On Friday, March 10, 2023 at 12:33:25 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:

~ On Friday, March 10, 2023 at 12:11:54 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:

'The guys that figured out how to beat Blackjack could have made a 'good' living forever.'

The guy (not guys)..

Yea, guys,. I was as I said. A few Army guys were trying to calculate the numbers but couldn’t....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Horsemen_of_the_Apocalypse_(blackjack)

“In 1953, Roger Baldwin, a private in the U.S. Army with a master's degree in mathematics from Columbia
University, stationed in Aberdeen Proving Ground, the U.S. Army's oldest active proving ground,[3] was playing
dealer's choice poker in the barracks. After a player acting as dealer ....

Click the link...

.

who figured out how to beat Blackjack published it in a book. The casinos immediately adjusted.
NO ONE could have made a 'good' living forever.'

And I never said they could.

LTL

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On Friday, March 10, 2023 at 12:48:04 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:

On Friday, March 10, 2023 at 12:33:25 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:

~ On Friday, March 10, 2023 at 12:11:54 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:

'The guys that figured out how to beat Blackjack could have made a 'good' living forever.'

The guy (not guys)..

~ Yea, guys,. I was as I said. A few Army guys were trying to calculate the numbers but couldn’t....


That makes a lot of sense, too.

'The guys that figured out' and 'A few Army guys were trying to calculate the numbers but couldn’t'.

See how it doesn't make sense?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Horsemen_of_the_Apocalypse_(blackjack)

“In 1953, Roger Baldwin, a private in the U.S. Army with a master's degree in mathematics from Columbia
University, stationed in Aberdeen Proving Ground, the U.S. Army's oldest active proving ground,[3] was playing
dealer's choice poker in the barracks. After a player acting as dealer ....

Click the link...

.

who figured out how to beat Blackjack published it in a book. The casinos immediately adjusted.
NO ONE could have made a 'good' living forever.'

And I never said they could.

LTL

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On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 6:45:43 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:

On Friday, March 10, 2023 at 12:48:04 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:

On Friday, March 10, 2023 at 12:33:25 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:

~ On Friday, March 10, 2023 at 12:11:54 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:

'The guys that figured out how to beat Blackjack could have made a 'good' living forever.'

The guy (not guys)..

~ Yea, guys,. I was as I said. A few Army guys were trying to calculate the numbers but couldn’t....

That makes a lot of sense, too.

Well finally. You actually read the link..

'The guys that figured out' and 'A few Army guys were trying to calculate the numbers but couldn’t'.

Now, Like BillB says, "Reading with comprehension." Yes, they figured out what need to be done for
the best results. And with help, got it done.

See how it doesn't make sense?

Only to you.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Horsemen_of_the_Apocalypse_(blackjack)

“In 1953, Roger Baldwin, a private in the U.S. Army with a master's degree in mathematics from Columbia
University, stationed in Aberdeen Proving Ground, the U.S. Army's oldest active proving ground,[3] was playing
dealer's choice poker in the barracks. After a player acting as dealer ....

Click the link...

.

who figured out how to beat Blackjack published it in a book. The casinos immediately adjusted.
NO ONE could have made a 'good' living forever.'

And I never said they could.

LTL

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~ On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 8:04:19 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:

~ Now, Like BillB says, "Reading with comprehension."


LOL. You leaning on Blabbermouth for rhetorical support is like jumping out of an airplane with one of those little umbrellas from a cocktail drink.

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On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 10:47:43 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:

~ On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 8:04:19 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:

On Friday, March 10, 2023 at 12:33:25 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:

~ On Friday, March 10, 2023 at 12:11:54 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:

'The guys that figured out how to beat Blackjack could have made a 'good' living forever.'

The guy (not guys)..

Yea, guys,. I was as I said. A few Army guys were trying to calculate the numbers but couldn’t....

That makes a lot of sense, too.

Well finally. You actually read the link..

'The guys that figured out' and 'A few Army guys were trying to calculate the numbers but couldn’t'.

Now, Like BillB says, "Reading with comprehension." Yes, they figured out what need to be done for
the best results. And with help, got it done.

LOL. You leaning on Blabbermouth for rhetorical support...

*** Knew you did, and now you're embarrassed and off dodging again. ***

(Oh, I replaced the parts you cut because it embarrassed you)

Or do you need to read it again?

is like jumping out of an airplane with one of those little umbrellas from a cocktail drink.

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On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 5:03:34 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:

On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 10:47:43 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:

~ On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 8:04:19 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:

On Friday, March 10, 2023 at 12:33:25 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:

~ On Friday, March 10, 2023 at 12:11:54 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:

'The guys that figured out how to beat Blackjack could have made a 'good' living forever.'

The guy (not guys)..

Yea, guys,. I was as I said. A few Army guys were trying to calculate the numbers but couldn’t....

That makes a lot of sense, too.

Well finally. You actually read the link..

'The guys that figured out' and 'A few Army guys were trying to calculate the numbers but couldn’t'.

Now, Like BillB says, "Reading with comprehension." Yes, they figured out what need to be done for
the best results. And with help, got it done.

LOL. You leaning on Blabbermouth for rhetorical support...

*** Knew you did, and now you're embarrassed and off dodging again. ***

(Oh, I replaced the parts you cut because it embarrassed you)

~ Or do you need to read it again?

is like jumping out of an airplane with one of those little umbrellas from a cocktail drink.

Read what again? The part I wrote about the little umbrellas?

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On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 5:08:35 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:

On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 5:03:34 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:

On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 10:47:43 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:

~ On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 8:04:19 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:

On Friday, March 10, 2023 at 12:33:25 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:

~ On Friday, March 10, 2023 at 12:11:54 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:

'The guys that figured out how to beat Blackjack could have made a 'good' living forever.'

The guy (not guys)..

Yea, guys,. I was as I said. A few Army guys were trying to calculate the numbers but couldn’t....

That makes a lot of sense, too.

Well finally. You actually read the link..

'The guys that figured out' and 'A few Army guys were trying to calculate the numbers but couldn’t'.

Now, Like BillB says, "Reading with comprehension." Yes, they figured out what need to be done for
the best results. And with help, got it done.

LOL. You leaning on Blabbermouth for rhetorical support...

*** Knew you did, and now you're embarrassed and off dodging again. ***

(Oh, I replaced the parts you cut because it embarrassed you)

~ Or do you need to read it again?

is like jumping out of an airplane with one of those little umbrellas from a cocktail drink.

.

Read what again?

See? Embarrassed and on the dodge again.

** LOL@U **




The part I wrote about the little umbrellas?

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