• Absolutely Unbelievable!

    From Irish Mike@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 5 05:46:55 2023
    Biden just let a Chinese spy platform vacuum up all the
    military, commercial, and personal cell and wifi data it
    wanted and didn't touch it until it left American soil

    Trump got impeached for a phone call with Zelensky,
    the President of Ukraine. Surly Biden can be impeached
    for allowing China to surveil our entire country and trying
    to hide it from the public.

    Irish Mike

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to irishranger317@gmail.com on Sun Feb 5 14:01:12 2023
    Irish Mike <irishranger317@gmail.com> wrote:

    Biden just let a Chinese spy platform vacuum up all the
    military, commercial, and personal cell and wifi data it
    wanted and didn't touch it until it left American soil
    ...

    The only data that balloon "vacuumed up" was the idiocy
    of right-wing whackjobs:
    |
    | China launched three new satellites last week, providing no
    | details of the work they will do in orbit.
    | ...
    <https://www.space.com/china-yaogan-shiyan-satellite-launch-january-2023

    | ...
    | Thus, from an intelligence standpoint, Pentagon officials
    | believe that the strange week-long balloon voyage was
    | ultimately of more benefit to the United States than to
    | China. By waiting until the balloon was over U.S.
    | territorial waters, the Biden administration was able to
    | maximize the likelihood that the pod could be recovered
    | while minimizing the risk that Americans would be injured
    | by falling debris.
    | ... <https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/02/04/chinese-balloon-pentagon-intelligence-details/?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email>

    --bks

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to williambradleyllb@gmail.com on Sun Feb 5 15:06:26 2023
    BillB <williambradleyllb@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 5:46:59 AM UTC-8, Irish Mike wrote:
    Biden just let a Chinese spy platform vacuum up all the
    military, commercial, and personal cell and wifi data it
    wanted and didn't touch it until it left American soil

    Trump got impeached for a phone call with Zelensky,
    the President of Ukraine. Surly Biden can be impeached
    for allowing China to surveil our entire country and trying
    to hide it from the public.

    Irish Mike

    It seems highly unlikely to me that Biden (or any other president in
    their right mind) did anything other than what a consensus of his senior >military leaders advised him to do. I feel confident you are forming
    your opinion with very incomplete information. There is also a 99.6%
    chance that you would have criticized Biden no matter what he did.

    | ...
    | U.S. officials said Saturday that similar Chinese balloons
    | transited the continental United States briefly at least
    | three times during the Trump administration and once that
    | they know about earlier in the Biden administration.
    | ... ><https://apnews.com/article/politics-united-states-government-antony-blinken-china-b1b03193b7abeb7bbeca169bbc7c2c53>

    You can't make this sh.t up:
    |
    | Tom Cotton [R-AR] tries to blame reports that Chinese balloons
    | also flew over the US during the Trump years on Obama
    |
    | [67-second Fox News Video at URL]
    |
    <https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1622242335860920320>

    --bks

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  • From BillB@21:1/5 to Irish Mike on Sun Feb 5 06:58:23 2023
    On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 5:46:59 AM UTC-8, Irish Mike wrote:
    Biden just let a Chinese spy platform vacuum up all the
    military, commercial, and personal cell and wifi data it
    wanted and didn't touch it until it left American soil

    Trump got impeached for a phone call with Zelensky,
    the President of Ukraine. Surly Biden can be impeached
    for allowing China to surveil our entire country and trying
    to hide it from the public.

    Irish Mike

    It seems highly unlikely to me that Biden (or any other president in their right mind) did anything other than what a consensus of his senior military leaders advised him to do. I feel confident you are forming your opinion with very incomplete
    information. There is also a 99.6% chance that you would have criticized Biden no matter what he did.

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to Irish Mike on Sun Feb 5 07:59:48 2023
    On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 5:46:59 AM UTC-8, Irish Mike wrote:
    Biden just let a Chinese spy platform vacuum up all the
    military, commercial, and personal cell and wifi data it
    wanted and didn't touch it until it left American soil

    What’s, ‘Absolutely Unbelievable!’ is how you knew what the ‘spy platform’ was doing. How did you find out?
    Did you contact the FBI and give them your information? Did your ‘source’ (some asshole on FOX) tell you
    that all the information you claim can be gathered ON THE GROUND in a car or from their spy satellite?
    (And did they explain what “wifi data” is?)

    LOL! As how easy it is to kick you’re ignorant ass and how you run and hide from me.


    Trump got impeached for a phone call with Zelensky, the President of Ukraine.
    .

    No, he got impeached for trying to bribe him, you fucking idiot.


    Surly Biden can be impeached for allowing China to surveil our entire country and
    trying to hide it from the public.

    “Surly” you can answer your above embarrassments while we laugh at your ‘surveil entire country.’

    What a fucking idiot…


    Stupid Irish Mick

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to BillB on Sun Feb 5 08:09:06 2023
    On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 6:58:26 AM UTC-8, BillB wrote:
    On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 5:46:59 AM UTC-8, Irish Mike wrote:
    Biden just let a Chinese spy platform vacuum up all the
    military, commercial, and personal cell and wifi data it
    wanted and didn't touch it until it left American soil

    Trump got impeached for a phone call with Zelensky,
    the President of Ukraine. Surly Biden can be impeached
    for allowing China to surveil our entire country and trying
    to hide it from the public.

    Irish Mike
    .

    It seems highly unlikely to me that Biden (or any other president in their right mind) did anything other
    than what a consensus of his senior military leaders advised him to do.

    Of course. Right wing GQP idiots, like Idiot Irish Mick, try making hay by claiming THEY know what it’s doing
    and THEY know best. The military (and I) know that shooting it down would not only endanger those on the
    ground (Many smart, classified, devices, like I’ve used, have explosive or melting devices built in to where it
    would explode, or acid would melt, any readable date devices in the equipment. Like the equipment on the Pueblo
    that the North Koreans took).

    They did exactly the right thing. Have in crash in water to lessen the damage to the equipment. I expect the military had already plotted the devices direction and had SEALS floating near by.

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to Bradley K. Sherman on Sun Feb 5 08:15:01 2023
    On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 7:06:32 AM UTC-8, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
    BillB <williamb...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 5:46:59 AM UTC-8, Irish Mike wrote:
    Biden just let a Chinese spy platform vacuum up all the
    military, commercial, and personal cell and wifi data it
    wanted and didn't touch it until it left American soil

    Trump got impeached for a phone call with Zelensky,
    the President of Ukraine. Surly Biden can be impeached
    for allowing China to surveil our entire country and trying
    to hide it from the public.

    Irish Mike

    It seems highly unlikely to me that Biden (or any other president in
    their right mind) did anything other than what a consensus of his senior >military leaders advised him to do. I feel confident you are forming
    your opinion with very incomplete information. There is also a 99.6%
    chance that you would have criticized Biden no matter what he did.
    | ...
    | U.S. officials said Saturday that similar Chinese balloons
    | transited the continental United States briefly at least
    | three times during the Trump administration and once that
    | they know about earlier in the Biden administration.
    | ... ><https://apnews.com/article/politics-united-states-government-antony-blinken-china-b1b03193b7abeb7bbeca169bbc7c2c53>

    You can't make this sh.t up:
    |
    | Tom Cotton [R-AR] tries to blame reports that Chinese balloons
    | also flew over the US during the Trump years on Obama
    |
    | [67-second Fox News Video at URL]
    |
    <https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1622242335860920320>

    --bks
    .


    Gee; Fake FOX and a hillbilly GQP Senator blaming Democrats....

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  • From Irish Mike@21:1/5 to Bradley K. Sherman on Sun Feb 5 10:06:26 2023
    On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 10:06:32 AM UTC-5, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
    BillB <williamb...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 5:46:59 AM UTC-8, Irish Mike wrote:
    Biden just let a Chinese spy platform vacuum up all the
    military, commercial, and personal cell and wifi data it
    wanted and didn't touch it until it left American soil

    Trump got impeached for a phone call with Zelensky,
    the President of Ukraine. Surly Biden can be impeached
    for allowing China to surveil our entire country and trying
    to hide it from the public.

    Irish Mike

    It seems highly unlikely to me that Biden (or any other president in
    their right mind) did anything other than what a consensus of his senior >military leaders advised him to do. I feel confident you are forming
    your opinion with very incomplete information. There is also a 99.6% >chance that you would have criticized Biden no matter what he did.
    | ...
    | U.S. officials said Saturday that similar Chinese balloons
    | transited the continental United States briefly at least
    | three times during the Trump administration and once that
    | they know about earlier in the Biden administration.

    Former President Trump and a number of top national security and defense
    officials refuted Biden administration officials' claims that Chinese surveillance
    balloons briefly transited the continental United States during the Trump administration,
    saying it "never happened."

    Former Trump White House national security adviser John Bolton said l that he never even
    heard of anything like this under his tenure. Basically, the Biden administration is spreading
    this misinformation because "they look so bad,”. “They are incompetent," he said.

    Irish Mike

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to Irish Mike on Sun Feb 5 10:51:57 2023
    On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 10:06:30 AM UTC-8, Irish Mike wrote:
    On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 10:06:32 AM UTC-5, Bradley K. Sherman wrote:
    BillB <williamb...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 5:46:59 AM UTC-8, Irish Mike wrote:
    Biden just let a Chinese spy platform vacuum up all the
    military, commercial, and personal cell and wifi data it
    wanted and didn't touch it until it left American soil

    Trump got impeached for a phone call with Zelensky,
    the President of Ukraine. Surly Biden can be impeached
    for allowing China to surveil our entire country and trying
    to hide it from the public.

    Irish Mike

    It seems highly unlikely to me that Biden (or any other president in >their right mind) did anything other than what a consensus of his senior >military leaders advised him to do. I feel confident you are forming >your opinion with very incomplete information. There is also a 99.6% >chance that you would have criticized Biden no matter what he did.
    | ...
    | U.S. officials said Saturday that similar Chinese balloons
    | transited the continental United States briefly at least
    | three times during the Trump administration and once that
    | they know about earlier in the Biden administration.
    .

    What’s the matter, dip shit, couldn’t answer my post? Still running?


    Former President Trump and a number of top national security and defense officials refuted Biden administration officials' claims that Chinese surveillance
    balloons briefly transited the continental United States during the Trump administration,
    saying it "never happened."

    Yea, right. The twice impeached, disgraced former President, that has over 20,000 documented lies to
    his name tell you (through fake Fox, right?) that his “Top national security and defense officials refute
    Biden’s officials’ claims.”

    So tell us; Who were the Biden officials? What was their claim? Who were the Trump officials?


    Former Trump White House national security adviser John Bolton said l that he never even
    heard of anything like this under his tenure.

    Hear of what?


    Basically, the Biden administration is spreading this misinformation because "they look so bad,”.
    “They are incompetent," he said.

    What was the ‘misinformation” that made them, “look so bad?”

    ANSWER, or run like the ignorant fool I’ve proven you to be…


    Easily Fox-fooled, Stupid Irish Mick

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 5 18:24:00 2023
    | ...
    | China has spy satellites flying over the United States
    | every day, taking pictures, collecting radio signals and
    | other data. Their space intelligence constellations have
    | grown in number and improved dramatically in collection
    | capabilities over the last 20 years. China launched another
    | four modern spy satellites last year.
    | ...
    <https://www.csis.org/analysis/chinese-spy-balloons-skys-limit>

    --bks

    <http://panix.com/~bks/Pix/balloon.jpeg>

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 5 11:46:20 2023
    Chinese balloons flew over US three times during Trump administration: officials

    https://thehill.com/policy/defense/3844511-chinese-balloons-flew-over-us-three-times-during-trump-administration-officials/

    Where is Irish Mick?

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 5 11:27:10 2023
    Excerpts from The New York Times article:

    Navy Divers Work to Recover Debris From Chinese Spy Balloon

    WASHINGTON — Navy divers were working to locate portions of the debris
    from the Chinese spy balloon that a U.S. fighter jet shot down six miles off the coast of South Carolina, defense officials said on Sunday….

    * (Note ‘debris.’ As in, Rather than pierce the balloon to retrieve a ‘whole’ package)

    … the Biden administration has stood firm that the balloon’s purpose was a somewhat hapless
    effort by China to spy on American military installations…

    * Hey, Irish Mick, is this what you (Fake FOX) was quoting?

    … President Biden said that he had told Pentagon officials to shoot down the balloon, and that they
    “said to me, let’s wait until the safest place to do it.” …

    * Is that what you refuted, Mick?

    … Democratic and Republican lawmakers questioned how the balloon was allowed to pass over
    the United States, with Republicans blaming Mr. Biden for not acting sooner…

    * Acting sooner than what? And do what? Come on, Mick, reply (or R&H again)

    … Senator Tom Cotton, an Arkansas Republican who sits on the Intelligence Committee, said on “Fox
    News Sunday.” “The idea that we were going to let this go all across America, a spy balloon complete
    its spy mission, before we shot it down, I’m afraid is an embarrassment to the United States, not an
    embarrassment to the Chinese.”

    * Which is another GQP lie, for somebody that “sits on the Intelligence Committee.” Counterintelligence
    mandates it be allowed to continue so we can intercept (which has already been verified as accomplished)
    what it’s being told and what it’s transmitting. And NOT shot down where it can’t be captured. And NOT
    shot down before seeing where it was going.

    … Republicans also criticized Mr. Biden for not alerting the public about the balloon sooner. Senator Marco
    Rubio of Florida, the top Republican on the Intelligence Committee, called it a “dereliction of duty.”..

    * Which, being on the Intelligence Committee, he knows should NOT be done because it alerts the Chinese
    that we know….

    … Mr. Rubio said on CNN’s “State of the Union. “He has the ability to convene the country and cameras and
    basically explain what we’re dealing with here” …

    * Yet idiot Rubio can’t explain “what we’re dealing with…”

    … “and why he’s made the decisions he’s making and what they intend to do.”

    * So the Chinese know? That’s Marco counterintelligence? LOL!

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  • From Irish Mike@21:1/5 to BillB on Sun Feb 5 17:04:32 2023
    On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 9:58:26 AM UTC-5, BillB wrote:
    On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 5:46:59 AM UTC-8, Irish Mike wrote:
    Biden just let a Chinese spy platform vacuum up all the
    military, commercial, and personal cell and wifi data it
    wanted and didn't touch it until it left American soil

    Trump got impeached for a phone call with Zelensky,
    the President of Ukraine. Surly Biden can be impeached
    for allowing China to surveil our entire country and trying
    to hide it from the public.

    Irish Mike
    It seems highly unlikely to me that Biden (or any other president in their right mind) did anything other than what a consensus of his senior military leaders advised him to do. I feel confident you are forming your opinion with very incomplete
    information. There is also a 99.6% chance that you would have criticized Biden no matter what he did.

    What a giant load of left-wing crap! It came in over Alaska!
    So Biden decided to let China spy on us, humiliate us internationally
    rather than risk the life of a stray moose on the Alaska Tundra!

    Irish Mike

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  • From Bradley K. Sherman@21:1/5 to irishranger317@gmail.com on Mon Feb 6 01:18:18 2023
    Irish Mike <irishranger317@gmail.com> wrote:
    ...
    What a giant load of left-wing crap! It came in over Alaska!
    So Biden decided to let China spy on us, humiliate us internationally
    rather than risk the life of a stray moose on the Alaska Tundra!

    Even Fox News is reporting [1] three separate balloon incidents during
    the Trump administration. The only question is whether Trump was
    asleep at the switch or if he purposely ignored it because of his
    business interests [2].

    It's either high praise for the readiness of Biden's administration
    or a devastating critique of Trump's disregard for national security.

    --bks

    [1] <https://www.foxnews.com/politics/us-intel-assesses-chinese-spy-balloons-transited-us-several-times-went-undetected-senior-admin-official>
    [2] <https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-biographer-nails-hypocrisy-about-the-chinese-accounts-the-ex-president-has-been-hiding/ar-AA15QH9v>

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  • From Paul Popinjay@21:1/5 to Irish Mike on Sun Feb 5 17:26:30 2023
    On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 5:04:35 PM UTC-8, Irish Mike wrote:

    What a giant load of left-wing crap! It came in over Alaska!
    So Biden decided to let China spy on us, humiliate us internationally
    rather than risk the life of a stray moose on the Alaska Tundra!

    Irish Mike


    Mike, you are talking to three of the worst on this newsgroup. A complete waste. Sherman, Jerry, and BillB, are not just a waste of time, they are actually on the other side. Anything pro-America, they are against. Anything anti-America, they are for.
    Unfortunately, you can count Biden as their 4th member. I hope they all get what they deserve.

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  • From BillB@21:1/5 to paulpo...@sbcglobal.net on Sun Feb 5 18:44:10 2023
    On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 5:26:33 PM UTC-8, paulpo...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
    On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 5:04:35 PM UTC-8, Irish Mike wrote:

    What a giant load of left-wing crap! It came in over Alaska!
    So Biden decided to let China spy on us, humiliate us internationally rather than risk the life of a stray moose on the Alaska Tundra!

    Irish Mike
    Mike, you are talking to three of the worst on this newsgroup. A complete waste. Sherman, Jerry, and BillB, are not just a waste of time, they are actually on the other side. Anything pro-America, they are against. Anything anti-America, they are for.
    Unfortunately, you can count Biden as their 4th member. I hope they all get what they deserve.

    So when I frequently say "Never bet against America," that is not pro-America. But when you say the American economy is on its last legs and is about to collapse into dust, that *is* pro-America? You must live in an alternate universe.

    And what is "pro-America" about the BS Irish Mike is peddling here? Seems anything but to me.

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  • From Tim Norfolk@21:1/5 to BillB on Sun Feb 5 18:53:16 2023
    On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 9:44:14 PM UTC-5, BillB wrote:
    On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 5:26:33 PM UTC-8, paulpo...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
    On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 5:04:35 PM UTC-8, Irish Mike wrote:

    What a giant load of left-wing crap! It came in over Alaska!
    So Biden decided to let China spy on us, humiliate us internationally rather than risk the life of a stray moose on the Alaska Tundra!

    Irish Mike
    Mike, you are talking to three of the worst on this newsgroup. A complete waste. Sherman, Jerry, and BillB, are not just a waste of time, they are actually on the other side. Anything pro-America, they are against. Anything anti-America, they are for.
    Unfortunately, you can count Biden as their 4th member. I hope they all get what they deserve.
    So when I frequently say "Never bet against America," that is not pro-America. But when you say the American economy is on its last legs and is about to collapse into dust, that *is* pro-America? You must live in an alternate universe.

    And what is "pro-America" about the BS Irish Mike is peddling here? Seems anything but to me.

    It is the thought process of end-timers, who have been an almost constant feature in US culture, from the First Awakening in 1804 through the Millerites in 1844 and Harold Camping in 2011.

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  • From BillB@21:1/5 to Irish Mike on Sun Feb 5 18:35:29 2023
    On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 5:04:35 PM UTC-8, Irish Mike wrote:
    On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 9:58:26 AM UTC-5, BillB wrote:
    On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 5:46:59 AM UTC-8, Irish Mike wrote:
    Biden just let a Chinese spy platform vacuum up all the
    military, commercial, and personal cell and wifi data it
    wanted and didn't touch it until it left American soil

    Trump got impeached for a phone call with Zelensky,
    the President of Ukraine. Surly Biden can be impeached
    for allowing China to surveil our entire country and trying
    to hide it from the public.

    Irish Mike
    It seems highly unlikely to me that Biden (or any other president in their right mind) did anything other than what a consensus of his senior military leaders advised him to do. I feel confident you are forming your opinion with very incomplete
    information. There is also a 99.6% chance that you would have criticized Biden no matter what he did.
    What a giant load of left-wing crap! It came in over Alaska!
    So Biden decided to let China spy on us, humiliate us internationally
    rather than risk the life of a stray moose on the Alaska Tundra!

    Irish Mike

    What I said is not "left-wing crap." It is basic common sense. So your belief is that the military spotted the balloon approaching Alaska, alerted Biden, advised him to shoot it down immediately, but Biden said "Nahh....let's just let it go and see what
    happens." Do I have that right? Is that essentially what you believe happened?

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  • From BillB@21:1/5 to Tim Norfolk on Sun Feb 5 19:20:32 2023
    On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 6:53:19 PM UTC-8, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 9:44:14 PM UTC-5, BillB wrote:
    On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 5:26:33 PM UTC-8, paulpo...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
    On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 5:04:35 PM UTC-8, Irish Mike wrote:

    What a giant load of left-wing crap! It came in over Alaska!
    So Biden decided to let China spy on us, humiliate us internationally rather than risk the life of a stray moose on the Alaska Tundra!

    Irish Mike
    Mike, you are talking to three of the worst on this newsgroup. A complete waste. Sherman, Jerry, and BillB, are not just a waste of time, they are actually on the other side. Anything pro-America, they are against. Anything anti-America, they are
    for. Unfortunately, you can count Biden as their 4th member. I hope they all get what they deserve.
    So when I frequently say "Never bet against America," that is not pro-America. But when you say the American economy is on its last legs and is about to collapse into dust, that *is* pro-America? You must live in an alternate universe.

    And what is "pro-America" about the BS Irish Mike is peddling here? Seems anything but to me.
    It is the thought process of end-timers, who have been an almost constant feature in US culture, from the First Awakening in 1804 through the Millerites in 1844 and Harold Camping in 2011.

    You'd think they would eventually clue in after being proved wrong hundreds of times in a row.

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to paulpo...@sbcglobal.net on Mon Feb 6 08:35:04 2023
    On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 5:26:33 PM UTC-8, paulpo...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
    On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 5:04:35 PM UTC-8, Irish Mike wrote:

    What a giant load of left-wing crap! It came in over Alaska!
    So Biden decided to let China spy on us, humiliate us internationally rather than risk the life of a stray moose on the Alaska Tundra!

    Irish Mike
    .

    Speaking of ignorant GQP wingnuts...
    .

    Mike, you are talking to three of the worst on this newsgroup. A complete waste. Sherman, Jerry, and BillB, are not
    just a waste of time, they are actually on the other side. Anything pro-America, they are against. Anything anti-America,
    they are for. Unfortunately, you can count Biden as their 4th member. I hope they all get what they deserve.

    See what I mean about fools eating, then puking up, FOX Bullshit?

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to Irish Mike on Mon Feb 6 08:32:59 2023
    On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 5:04:35 PM UTC-8, Irish Mike wrote:
    On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 9:58:26 AM UTC-5, BillB wrote:
    On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 5:46:59 AM UTC-8, Irish Mike wrote:
    .

    “I couldn’t reply to Jerry because I’m stupid…”
    .
    .
    .
    .


    Biden just let a Chinese spy platform vacuum up all the
    military, commercial, and personal cell and wifi data it
    wanted and didn't touch it until it left American soil

    Trump got impeached for a phone call with Zelensky,
    the President of Ukraine. Surly Biden can be impeached
    for allowing China to surveil our entire country and trying
    to hide it from the public.

    Irish Mike
    .

    It seems highly unlikely to me that Biden (or any other president in their right mind) did anything
    other than what a consensus of his senior military leaders advised him to do. I feel confident you
    are forming your opinion with very incomplete information.
    .

    Yea, he’s simply puking up bullshit that FOX force fed him.
    .

    There is also a 99.6% chance that you would have criticized Biden no matter what he did.
    .


    What a giant load of left-wing crap! It came in over Alaska!
    So Biden decided …
    .

    I enjoy it when Mickey Mick pukes up that FOX tells him what “Biden decided.”
    The idiots leading the stupid.
    .


    to let China spy on us, humiliate us internationally
    rather than risk the life of a stray moose on the Alaska Tundra!
    .

    See?
    .

    No, you ignorant fuck. Not only did FOX forget to tell you THREE balloons went over during Trump’s
    (treasonous) administration, but that our security controlled the whole situation. IN EACH EVENT.

    Having been in on Naval Intelligence, and having a retired Admiral on MSNBC explain, “parts that I can,” you learn that shooting down the balloon get you nothing. It’s like catching a spy in our country and shooting or arresting him. You gain
    NOTHING. You flip him or spy on the spy, like we did on the balloon. THEN (unlike you) you learn something.

    In this case they wanted to know where it was going. So they followed it and circled it with U2s to intercept radio transmissions to and from it. They learned it was heading for our missile silos in Nebraska, probably to get close up pictures for their
    intercontinental missiles for targeting. (They know any incoming missile will have it GPS signals blocked and scrambled by us, so the missile will target with video recognition – they didn’t get).

    They learned the balloon navigation was like the hobby balloons we fly in (or at least I have); It sensed the directions it was going and changed altitude (by pumping air into, for descending or venting air out of, for rising, the balloon) to find moving
    air going in the direction they wanted. When it tried heading for our silos, we jammed the GOP signals so it couldn’t control it’s direction. It missed it’s targets. After losing its mission, we didn’t shoot it down because it endangered
    populations and we knew it contained explosives. How?

    Counterintelligence tradecraft. We incase our equipment with thermite packs and explosives. (Just like on the USS Pueblo – but no explosives). We knew that if we simply shot a hole in the balloon, allowing it to slowly descend, keeping the package
    intact, it will still activate (by altitude trigger or attempting to open the package) the thermite packs to melt all frequency crystals, mother boards, and discs; then explode to spread all the melted stuff.

    But by having our aircraft shoot a missile and hit the package direct, it would spread the equipment out and possibly not trigger the thermite or explosives. And by doing it over shallow water, we might capture some fragments of their equipment that will
    tell us something.

    The Republican Congressmen waving their hands and yelling about Biden (and sending out campaign contribution emails to you fools) know all this. At least the ones on the Intelligence Committees. So you Wingnut go ahead and kiss your GQP’s ass; but do
    keep repuking the FOX Bullshit. LOL!

    Coward Irish Mick, running and hiding from Jerry

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