• More vote fraud discovered. Repubican, of course. Who else?

    From risky biz@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jan 15 10:39:13 2023
    Iowa woman charged with 52 counts of voter fraud in scheme to aid husband in 2020 races
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2023/01/14/iowa-official-wife-felony-charges-voter-fraud/11053855002/

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  • From da pickle@21:1/5 to risky biz on Mon Jan 16 11:25:59 2023
    On 1/15/2023 12:39 PM, risky biz wrote:
    Iowa woman charged with 52 counts of voter fraud in scheme to aid husband in 2020 races
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2023/01/14/iowa-official-wife-felony-charges-voter-fraud/11053855002/

    Interesting data reporting from GOOGLE

    First look up "has any democrat ever been charged with voter fraud"

    over 31 million results

    Second look up "has any republican ever been charged with voter fraud"

    over 17 million results

    Interesting that the first result is republican and most of all of the
    results are republican mentions.

    I know that there is widespread fraud here in Louisiana and most of it
    is Democrat but there is plenty of Republican to go around as well. I
    am surprised that smart people can pick a side in such observations and
    be so sure that their opinion of the "facts" is the "truth".

    [Not directed at you, risky, I have seen you comment on both sides of
    the aisle.]

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  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to da pickle on Mon Jan 16 13:55:52 2023
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 9:26:10 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 1/15/2023 12:39 PM, risky biz wrote:
    Iowa woman charged with 52 counts of voter fraud in scheme to aid husband in 2020 races
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2023/01/14/iowa-official-wife-felony-charges-voter-fraud/11053855002/


    ~ Interesting data reporting from GOOGLE

    First look up "has any democrat ever been charged with voter fraud"

    over 31 million results

    Second look up "has any republican ever been charged with voter fraud"

    over 17 million results

    Interesting that the first result is republican and most of all of the results are republican mentions.

    I know that there is widespread fraud here in Louisiana and most of it
    is Democrat but there is plenty of Republican to go around as well. I
    am surprised that smart people can pick a side in such observations and
    be so sure that their opinion of the "facts" is the "truth".

    [Not directed at you, risky, I have seen you comment on both sides of
    the aisle.]


    Results of a Google search is just a compilation of mentions of vote fraud on the internet which means nothing.

    I would like to see a scorecard listing all instances. It shouldn't be that difficult to compile so I have to wonder if neither side wants to see that published. But I would have to be honest and discount instances like DeSantis' dog and pony show of
    arresting ex-felons who were confused by rules which were designed to be confusing.

    Here's a fuller list although directed at only one side: https://news.yahoo.com/list-republicans-committing-voter-fraud-055950891.html

    And I think that, regardless, the Republicans are the ones making a massive amount of noise over something that is relatively non-existent and insubstantive. Clearly, their only real intention is to promote a victimological mindset.

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  • From da pickle@21:1/5 to risky biz on Mon Jan 16 16:59:16 2023
    On 1/16/2023 3:55 PM, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 9:26:10 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 1/15/2023 12:39 PM, risky biz wrote:
    Iowa woman charged with 52 counts of voter fraud in scheme to aid husband in 2020 races
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2023/01/14/iowa-official-wife-felony-charges-voter-fraud/11053855002/


    ~ Interesting data reporting from GOOGLE

    First look up "has any democrat ever been charged with voter fraud"

    over 31 million results

    Second look up "has any republican ever been charged with voter fraud"

    over 17 million results

    Interesting that the first result is republican and most of all of the
    results are republican mentions.

    I know that there is widespread fraud here in Louisiana and most of it
    is Democrat but there is plenty of Republican to go around as well. I
    am surprised that smart people can pick a side in such observations and
    be so sure that their opinion of the "facts" is the "truth".

    [Not directed at you, risky, I have seen you comment on both sides of
    the aisle.]


    Results of a Google search is just a compilation of mentions of vote fraud on the internet which means nothing.

    I would like to see a scorecard listing all instances. It shouldn't be that difficult to compile so I have to wonder if neither side wants to see that published. But I would have to be honest and discount instances like DeSantis' dog and pony show of
    arresting ex-felons who were confused by rules which were designed to be confusing.

    Here's a fuller list although directed at only one side: https://news.yahoo.com/list-republicans-committing-voter-fraud-055950891.html

    And I think that, regardless, the Republicans are the ones making a massive amount of noise over something that is relatively non-existent and insubstantive. Clearly, their only real intention is to promote a victimological mindset.

    Maybe ... maybe not ... voter fraud may be bigger than you believe it to
    be. Both sides are involved to one extent or the other. Some folks
    think "their" side is spotless and the "other" side is spot filled.

    What I find interesting is that there is definitely a side that the
    "press" seems to favor. Hence, my attempt to show that ... but it does
    not mean that either side is exempt from the disease. There is no cure,
    of course.

    Speaking of "voters" and "votes" ... is it time to get away from the one
    person one vote rule? I still think the multiple vote might be really
    helpful. Everyone should have a vote ... but some folks (just who and
    how is the problem) might deserve an extra vote or two or three or so.

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  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to da pickle on Mon Jan 16 17:06:52 2023
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 2:59:27 PM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 1/16/2023 3:55 PM, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 9:26:10 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 1/15/2023 12:39 PM, risky biz wrote:
    Iowa woman charged with 52 counts of voter fraud in scheme to aid husband in 2020 races
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2023/01/14/iowa-official-wife-felony-charges-voter-fraud/11053855002/


    ~ Interesting data reporting from GOOGLE

    First look up "has any democrat ever been charged with voter fraud"

    over 31 million results

    Second look up "has any republican ever been charged with voter fraud"

    over 17 million results

    Interesting that the first result is republican and most of all of the
    results are republican mentions.

    I know that there is widespread fraud here in Louisiana and most of it
    is Democrat but there is plenty of Republican to go around as well. I
    am surprised that smart people can pick a side in such observations and >> be so sure that their opinion of the "facts" is the "truth".

    [Not directed at you, risky, I have seen you comment on both sides of
    the aisle.]


    Results of a Google search is just a compilation of mentions of vote fraud on the internet which means nothing.

    I would like to see a scorecard listing all instances. It shouldn't be that difficult to compile so I have to wonder if neither side wants to see that published. But I would have to be honest and discount instances like DeSantis' dog and pony show of
    arresting ex-felons who were confused by rules which were designed to be confusing.

    Here's a fuller list although directed at only one side: https://news.yahoo.com/list-republicans-committing-voter-fraud-055950891.html

    And I think that, regardless, the Republicans are the ones making a massive amount of noise over something that is relatively non-existent and insubstantive. Clearly, their only real intention is to promote a victimological mindset.
    Maybe ... maybe not ... voter fraud may be bigger than you believe it to
    be. Both sides are involved to one extent or the other. Some folks
    think "their" side is spotless and the "other" side is spot filled.

    What I find interesting is that there is definitely a side that the
    "press" seems to favor. Hence, my attempt to show that ... but it does
    not mean that either side is exempt from the disease. There is no cure,
    of course.

    Speaking of "voters" and "votes" ... is it time to get away from the one person one vote rule? I still think the multiple vote might be really helpful. Everyone should have a vote ... but some folks (just who and
    how is the problem) might deserve an extra vote or two or three or so.


    Do you mean like a woman who has conceived and citizens with more than one gender?

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  • From da pickle@21:1/5 to risky biz on Tue Jan 17 10:43:16 2023
    On 1/16/2023 7:06 PM, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 2:59:27 PM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 1/16/2023 3:55 PM, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 9:26:10 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 1/15/2023 12:39 PM, risky biz wrote:
    Iowa woman charged with 52 counts of voter fraud in scheme to aid husband in 2020 races
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2023/01/14/iowa-official-wife-felony-charges-voter-fraud/11053855002/


    ~ Interesting data reporting from GOOGLE

    First look up "has any democrat ever been charged with voter fraud"

    over 31 million results

    Second look up "has any republican ever been charged with voter fraud" >>>>
    over 17 million results

    Interesting that the first result is republican and most of all of the >>>> results are republican mentions.

    I know that there is widespread fraud here in Louisiana and most of it >>>> is Democrat but there is plenty of Republican to go around as well. I
    am surprised that smart people can pick a side in such observations and >>>> be so sure that their opinion of the "facts" is the "truth".

    [Not directed at you, risky, I have seen you comment on both sides of
    the aisle.]


    Results of a Google search is just a compilation of mentions of vote fraud on the internet which means nothing.

    I would like to see a scorecard listing all instances. It shouldn't be that difficult to compile so I have to wonder if neither side wants to see that published. But I would have to be honest and discount instances like DeSantis' dog and pony show of
    arresting ex-felons who were confused by rules which were designed to be confusing.

    Here's a fuller list although directed at only one side:
    https://news.yahoo.com/list-republicans-committing-voter-fraud-055950891.html

    And I think that, regardless, the Republicans are the ones making a massive amount of noise over something that is relatively non-existent and insubstantive. Clearly, their only real intention is to promote a victimological mindset.
    Maybe ... maybe not ... voter fraud may be bigger than you believe it to
    be. Both sides are involved to one extent or the other. Some folks
    think "their" side is spotless and the "other" side is spot filled.

    What I find interesting is that there is definitely a side that the
    "press" seems to favor. Hence, my attempt to show that ... but it does
    not mean that either side is exempt from the disease. There is no cure,
    of course.

    Speaking of "voters" and "votes" ... is it time to get away from the one
    person one vote rule? I still think the multiple vote might be really
    helpful. Everyone should have a vote ... but some folks (just who and
    how is the problem) might deserve an extra vote or two or three or so.


    Do you mean like a woman who has conceived and citizens with more than one gender?

    No ... maybe someone who pays income taxes gets another vote. That
    would exclude me, but it might be a good thing. Maybe some other
    "category" might deserve another vote. Just something to consider.

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  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to da pickle on Tue Jan 17 10:31:15 2023
    On Tuesday, January 17, 2023 at 8:43:25 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 1/16/2023 7:06 PM, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 2:59:27 PM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 1/16/2023 3:55 PM, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 9:26:10 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 1/15/2023 12:39 PM, risky biz wrote:
    Iowa woman charged with 52 counts of voter fraud in scheme to aid husband in 2020 races
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2023/01/14/iowa-official-wife-felony-charges-voter-fraud/11053855002/


    ~ Interesting data reporting from GOOGLE

    First look up "has any democrat ever been charged with voter fraud" >>>>
    over 31 million results

    Second look up "has any republican ever been charged with voter fraud" >>>>
    over 17 million results

    Interesting that the first result is republican and most of all of the >>>> results are republican mentions.

    I know that there is widespread fraud here in Louisiana and most of it >>>> is Democrat but there is plenty of Republican to go around as well. I >>>> am surprised that smart people can pick a side in such observations and >>>> be so sure that their opinion of the "facts" is the "truth".

    [Not directed at you, risky, I have seen you comment on both sides of >>>> the aisle.]


    Results of a Google search is just a compilation of mentions of vote fraud on the internet which means nothing.

    I would like to see a scorecard listing all instances. It shouldn't be that difficult to compile so I have to wonder if neither side wants to see that published. But I would have to be honest and discount instances like DeSantis' dog and pony show
    of arresting ex-felons who were confused by rules which were designed to be confusing.

    Here's a fuller list although directed at only one side:
    https://news.yahoo.com/list-republicans-committing-voter-fraud-055950891.html

    And I think that, regardless, the Republicans are the ones making a massive amount of noise over something that is relatively non-existent and insubstantive. Clearly, their only real intention is to promote a victimological mindset.
    Maybe ... maybe not ... voter fraud may be bigger than you believe it to >> be. Both sides are involved to one extent or the other. Some folks
    think "their" side is spotless and the "other" side is spot filled.

    What I find interesting is that there is definitely a side that the
    "press" seems to favor. Hence, my attempt to show that ... but it does
    not mean that either side is exempt from the disease. There is no cure, >> of course.

    Speaking of "voters" and "votes" ... is it time to get away from the one >> person one vote rule? I still think the multiple vote might be really
    helpful. Everyone should have a vote ... but some folks (just who and
    how is the problem) might deserve an extra vote or two or three or so.


    Do you mean like a woman who has conceived and citizens with more than one gender?


    ~ No ... maybe someone who pays income taxes gets another vote. That
    would exclude me, but it might be a good thing. Maybe some other
    "category" might deserve another vote. Just something to consider.


    In the America, the right to vote, at one time, required property ownership in some locations. They did away with that in the 18th century because Americans felt it would engender monarchy.

    Someone who has produced children and doesn't support them should be deprived of the right to vote. A woman applying for child support public assistance should be denied if she refuses to identify the father. Social Security should be based more on how
    long someone has worked and the current need rather than the amount contributed. I could go on.

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to risky biz on Tue Jan 17 11:55:50 2023
    On Tuesday, January 17, 2023 at 10:31:20 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 17, 2023 at 8:43:25 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 1/16/2023 7:06 PM, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 2:59:27 PM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 1/16/2023 3:55 PM, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 9:26:10 AM UTC-8, da pickle wrote:
    On 1/15/2023 12:39 PM, risky biz wrote:
    Iowa woman charged with 52 counts of voter fraud in scheme to aid husband in 2020 races
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2023/01/14/iowa-official-wife-felony-charges-voter-fraud/11053855002/


    ~ Interesting data reporting from GOOGLE

    First look up "has any democrat ever been charged with voter fraud" >>>>
    over 31 million results

    Second look up "has any republican ever been charged with voter fraud"

    over 17 million results

    Interesting that the first result is republican and most of all of the
    results are republican mentions.

    I know that there is widespread fraud here in Louisiana and most of it
    is Democrat but there is plenty of Republican to go around as well. I >>>> am surprised that smart people can pick a side in such observations and
    be so sure that their opinion of the "facts" is the "truth".

    [Not directed at you, risky, I have seen you comment on both sides of >>>> the aisle.]


    Results of a Google search is just a compilation of mentions of vote fraud on the internet which means nothing.

    I would like to see a scorecard listing all instances. It shouldn't be that difficult to compile so I have to wonder if neither side wants to see that published. But I would have to be honest and discount instances like DeSantis' dog and pony
    show of arresting ex-felons who were confused by rules which were designed to be confusing.

    Here's a fuller list although directed at only one side:
    https://news.yahoo.com/list-republicans-committing-voter-fraud-055950891.html

    And I think that, regardless, the Republicans are the ones making a massive amount of noise over something that is relatively non-existent and insubstantive. Clearly, their only real intention is to promote a victimological mindset.
    Maybe ... maybe not ... voter fraud may be bigger than you believe it to
    be. Both sides are involved to one extent or the other. Some folks
    think "their" side is spotless and the "other" side is spot filled.

    What I find interesting is that there is definitely a side that the
    "press" seems to favor. Hence, my attempt to show that ... but it does >> not mean that either side is exempt from the disease. There is no cure, >> of course.

    Speaking of "voters" and "votes" ... is it time to get away from the one
    person one vote rule? I still think the multiple vote might be really >> helpful. Everyone should have a vote ... but some folks (just who and >> how is the problem) might deserve an extra vote or two or three or so.


    Do you mean like a woman who has conceived and citizens with more than one gender?
    ~ No ... maybe someone who pays income taxes gets another vote. That
    would exclude me, but it might be a good thing. Maybe some other "category" might deserve another vote. Just something to consider.
    .
    In the America, the right to vote, at one time, required property ownership in some locations. They did away with that in the 18th century because Americans felt it would engender monarchy.
    .

    But still kept women from voting..
    .

    Someone who has produced children and doesn't support them should be deprived of the right to vote.
    .

    Just women, right?
    .

    A woman applying for child support public assistance should be denied if she refuses to identify
    the father.
    .

    Who is not supporting them? But he still gets to vote?
    .

    Social Security should be based more on how long someone has worked and the current need rather
    than the amount contributed.
    .

    Being Social Security is insurance; does the also apply to my insurance payments on my car and home?
    .

    I could go on.
    .

    Please do..

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  • From C Mayhem@21:1/5 to da pickle on Tue Jan 17 12:13:33 2023
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 11:26:10 AM UTC-6, da pickle wrote:
    On 1/15/2023 12:39 PM, risky biz wrote:
    Iowa woman charged with 52 counts of voter fraud in scheme to aid husband in 2020 races
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2023/01/14/iowa-official-wife-felony-charges-voter-fraud/11053855002/
    Interesting data reporting from GOOGLE

    First look up "has any democrat ever been charged with voter fraud"

    over 31 million results

    Second look up "has any republican ever been charged with voter fraud"

    over 17 million results

    Interesting that the first result is republican and most of all of the results are republican mentions.

    I know that there is widespread fraud here in Louisiana and most of it
    is Democrat but there is plenty of Republican to go around as well. I
    am surprised that smart people can pick a side in such observations and
    be so sure that their opinion of the "facts" is the "truth".

    [Not directed at you, risky, I have seen you comment on both sides of
    the aisle.]
    I think one of the RGP brain trust claimed that voter fraud was mostly done by fat black ladies. He must have googled it.

    C

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  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jan 17 12:34:07 2023
    ~ On Tuesday, January 17, 2023 at 11:55:54 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:

    <???>

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to risky biz on Tue Jan 17 16:38:25 2023
    On Tuesday, January 17, 2023 at 12:34:11 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    ~ On Tuesday, January 17, 2023 at 11:55:54 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:

    <???>
    .
    .

    No, I wrote this:
    And you ran…….

    .
    .
    .

    On Tuesday, January 17, 2023 at 11:55:54 AM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 17, 2023 at 10:31:20 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:

    In the America, the right to vote, at one time, required property ownership in some locations.
    They did away with that in the 18th century because Americans felt it would engender monarchy.
    .

    But still kept women from voting..
    .

    Someone who has produced children and doesn't support them should be deprived of the right to vote.
    .

    Just women, right?
    .
    .
    *** No Reply Noted ***
    .
    .

    A woman applying for child support public assistance should be denied if she refuses to identify
    the father.
    .

    Who is not supporting them?

    .
    .
    *** No Reply Noted ***
    .
    .

    But he still gets to vote?
    .
    .
    *** No Reply Noted ***
    .
    .

    Social Security should be based more on how long someone has worked and the current need rather
    than the amount contributed.
    .

    Being Social Security is insurance; does the also apply to my insurance payments on my car and home?
    .
    .
    *** No Reply Noted ***
    .
    .

    I could go on.
    .

    Please do..
    .
    .

    And of course you couldn’t. You ran again…

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