• Headless chickens

    From risky biz@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jan 7 10:17:33 2023
    'Scientists at the recently opened SETI Post-Detection Hub at the University of St Andrews in Scotland have a daunting task ahead of them: figure out what the hell to do if we were ever to make contact with an intelligent extraterrestrial civilization.

    If aliens got in touch tomorrow, they warn, humanity would be woefully ill-prepared — something they say needs to change as soon as possible.

    "Look at the mess we made when COVID hit," John Elliott, a computational linguist at the University of St Andrews and coordinator of the Post-Detection Hub, told The Guardian. "We’d be like headless chickens."

    "We cannot afford to be ill-prepared, scientifically, socially, and politically rudderless," he added, "for an event that could happen at any time and which we cannot afford to mismanage."
    https://futurism.com/the-byte/scientists-worried-humankind-chaos-discovering-alien-signal


    Q. How often has any civilization in human history ever made contact with a more advanced civilization and benefitted from it? Very few exceptions.

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to risky biz on Sat Jan 7 12:43:32 2023
    On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 10:17:37 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    'Scientists at the recently opened SETI Post-Detection Hub at the University of St Andrews in Scotland have a daunting task ahead of them: figure out what the hell to do if we were ever to make contact with an intelligent extraterrestrial civilization.

    If aliens got in touch tomorrow, they warn, humanity would be woefully ill-prepared — something they say needs to change as soon as possible.

    "Look at the mess we made when COVID hit," John Elliott, a computational linguist at the University of St Andrews and coordinator of the Post-Detection Hub, told The Guardian. "We’d be like headless chickens."

    "We cannot afford to be ill-prepared, scientifically, socially, and politically rudderless," he added, "for an event that could happen at any time and which we cannot afford to mismanage."
    https://futurism.com/the-byte/scientists-worried-humankind-chaos-discovering-alien-signal


    Q. How often has any civilization in human history ever made contact with a more advanced civilization and benefitted from it? Very few exceptions.
    .

    Quite often, actually. Remote tribes in Africa, South America, and a few isolated South Pacific islands; that had never had contact with the rest of the world, did rather well after contact.

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  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to VegasJerry on Sat Jan 7 13:11:58 2023
    On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 12:43:35 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 10:17:37 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    'Scientists at the recently opened SETI Post-Detection Hub at the University of St Andrews in Scotland have a daunting task ahead of them: figure out what the hell to do if we were ever to make contact with an intelligent extraterrestrial
    civilization.

    If aliens got in touch tomorrow, they warn, humanity would be woefully ill-prepared — something they say needs to change as soon as possible.

    "Look at the mess we made when COVID hit," John Elliott, a computational linguist at the University of St Andrews and coordinator of the Post-Detection Hub, told The Guardian. "We’d be like headless chickens."

    "We cannot afford to be ill-prepared, scientifically, socially, and politically rudderless," he added, "for an event that could happen at any time and which we cannot afford to mismanage."
    https://futurism.com/the-byte/scientists-worried-humankind-chaos-discovering-alien-signal



    Q. How often has any civilization in human history ever made contact with a more advanced civilization and benefitted from it? Very few exceptions.
    .


    ~ Quite often, actually. Remote tribes in Africa, South America, and a few isolated South Pacific islands; that had never had contact with the rest of the world, did rather well after contact.


    Oh, sure- those remote tribes in the Amazon love getting murdered by loggers.

    And 'remote tribes' and 'isolated islands' aren't exactly 'civilizations' although 'culture' would have been a better word for me to use. Native Americans were a widespread culture. Was the net result of contact positive?

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to risky biz on Sun Jan 8 08:42:32 2023
    On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 1:12:01 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 12:43:35 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 10:17:37 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    'Scientists at the recently opened SETI Post-Detection Hub at the University of St Andrews in Scotland have a daunting task ahead of them: figure out what the hell to do if we were ever to make contact with an intelligent extraterrestrial
    civilization.

    If aliens got in touch tomorrow, they warn, humanity would be woefully ill-prepared — something they say needs to change as soon as possible.

    "Look at the mess we made when COVID hit," John Elliott, a computational linguist at the University of St Andrews and coordinator of the Post-Detection Hub, told The Guardian. "We’d be like headless chickens."

    "We cannot afford to be ill-prepared, scientifically, socially, and politically rudderless," he added, "for an event that could happen at any time and which we cannot afford to mismanage."
    https://futurism.com/the-byte/scientists-worried-humankind-chaos-discovering-alien-signal



    Q. How often has any civilization in human history ever made contact with a more advanced civilization and benefitted from it? Very few exceptions.
    .

    ~ Quite often, actually. Remote tribes in Africa, South America, and a few isolated South Pacific islands; that had never had contact with the rest of the world, did rather well after contact.


    Oh, sure- those remote tribes in the Amazon love getting murdered by loggers.
    .

    DODGE!
    .


    And 'remote tribes' and 'isolated islands' aren't exactly 'civilizations' although 'culture' would have
    been a better word for me to use. Native Americans were a widespread culture.
    .

    Was the net result of contact positive?

    Yes..

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  • From da pickle@21:1/5 to VegasJerry on Sun Jan 8 11:18:09 2023
    On 1/8/2023 10:42 AM, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 1:12:01 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 12:43:35 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 10:17:37 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    'Scientists at the recently opened SETI Post-Detection Hub at the University of St Andrews in Scotland have a daunting task ahead of them: figure out what the hell to do if we were ever to make contact with an intelligent extraterrestrial
    civilization.

    If aliens got in touch tomorrow, they warn, humanity would be woefully ill-prepared — something they say needs to change as soon as possible.

    "Look at the mess we made when COVID hit," John Elliott, a computational linguist at the University of St Andrews and coordinator of the Post-Detection Hub, told The Guardian. "We’d be like headless chickens."

    "We cannot afford to be ill-prepared, scientifically, socially, and politically rudderless," he added, "for an event that could happen at any time and which we cannot afford to mismanage."
    https://futurism.com/the-byte/scientists-worried-humankind-chaos-discovering-alien-signal



    Q. How often has any civilization in human history ever made contact with a more advanced civilization and benefitted from it? Very few exceptions.
    .

    ~ Quite often, actually. Remote tribes in Africa, South America, and a few isolated South Pacific islands; that had never had contact with the rest of the world, did rather well after contact.


    Oh, sure- those remote tribes in the Amazon love getting murdered by loggers.
    .

    DODGE!
    .


    And 'remote tribes' and 'isolated islands' aren't exactly 'civilizations' although 'culture' would have
    been a better word for me to use. Native Americans were a widespread culture.
    .

    Was the net result of contact positive?

    Yes..

    Ah, "Yes.." - The Trail of Tears

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to Tim Norfolk on Sun Jan 8 13:10:15 2023
    On Sunday, January 8, 2023 at 12:42:46 PM UTC-8, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 3:43:35 PM UTC-5, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 10:17:37 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    'Scientists at the recently opened SETI Post-Detection Hub at the University of St Andrews in Scotland have a daunting task ahead of them: figure out what the hell to do if we were ever to make contact with an intelligent extraterrestrial
    civilization.

    If aliens got in touch tomorrow, they warn, humanity would be woefully ill-prepared — something they say needs to change as soon as possible.

    "Look at the mess we made when COVID hit," John Elliott, a computational linguist at the University of St Andrews and coordinator of the Post-Detection Hub, told The Guardian. "We’d be like headless chickens."

    "We cannot afford to be ill-prepared, scientifically, socially, and politically rudderless," he added, "for an event that could happen at any time and which we cannot afford to mismanage."
    https://futurism.com/the-byte/scientists-worried-humankind-chaos-discovering-alien-signal


    Q. How often has any civilization in human history ever made contact with a more advanced civilization and benefitted from it? Very few exceptions.
    .

    Quite often, actually. Remote tribes in Africa, South America, and a few isolated South Pacific islands; that had never had contact with the rest of the world, did rather well after contact.
    'Rather well' in what sense?
    .

    Additional protection and medical help.
    .
    .



    Most had large percentages dead of introduced diseases, many were enslaved and the rest had their cultures destroyed.

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  • From Tim Norfolk@21:1/5 to VegasJerry on Sun Jan 8 12:42:42 2023
    On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 3:43:35 PM UTC-5, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 10:17:37 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    'Scientists at the recently opened SETI Post-Detection Hub at the University of St Andrews in Scotland have a daunting task ahead of them: figure out what the hell to do if we were ever to make contact with an intelligent extraterrestrial
    civilization.

    If aliens got in touch tomorrow, they warn, humanity would be woefully ill-prepared — something they say needs to change as soon as possible.

    "Look at the mess we made when COVID hit," John Elliott, a computational linguist at the University of St Andrews and coordinator of the Post-Detection Hub, told The Guardian. "We’d be like headless chickens."

    "We cannot afford to be ill-prepared, scientifically, socially, and politically rudderless," he added, "for an event that could happen at any time and which we cannot afford to mismanage."
    https://futurism.com/the-byte/scientists-worried-humankind-chaos-discovering-alien-signal


    Q. How often has any civilization in human history ever made contact with a more advanced civilization and benefitted from it? Very few exceptions.
    .

    Quite often, actually. Remote tribes in Africa, South America, and a few isolated South Pacific islands; that had never had contact with the rest of the world, did rather well after contact.

    'Rather well' in what sense? Most had large percentages dead of introduced diseases, many were enslaved and the rest had their cultures destroyed.

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  • From Tim Norfolk@21:1/5 to VegasJerry on Sun Jan 8 16:09:39 2023
    On Sunday, January 8, 2023 at 4:10:19 PM UTC-5, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Sunday, January 8, 2023 at 12:42:46 PM UTC-8, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 3:43:35 PM UTC-5, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 10:17:37 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    'Scientists at the recently opened SETI Post-Detection Hub at the University of St Andrews in Scotland have a daunting task ahead of them: figure out what the hell to do if we were ever to make contact with an intelligent extraterrestrial
    civilization.

    If aliens got in touch tomorrow, they warn, humanity would be woefully ill-prepared — something they say needs to change as soon as possible.

    "Look at the mess we made when COVID hit," John Elliott, a computational linguist at the University of St Andrews and coordinator of the Post-Detection Hub, told The Guardian. "We’d be like headless chickens."

    "We cannot afford to be ill-prepared, scientifically, socially, and politically rudderless," he added, "for an event that could happen at any time and which we cannot afford to mismanage."
    https://futurism.com/the-byte/scientists-worried-humankind-chaos-discovering-alien-signal


    Q. How often has any civilization in human history ever made contact with a more advanced civilization and benefitted from it? Very few exceptions.
    .

    Quite often, actually. Remote tribes in Africa, South America, and a few isolated South Pacific islands; that had never had contact with the rest of the world, did rather well after contact.
    'Rather well' in what sense?
    .

    Additional protection and medical help.
    .
    .
    Most had large percentages dead of introduced diseases, many were enslaved and the rest had their cultures destroyed.

    Many became extinct, at least as cultures.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Grunty@21:1/5 to VegasJerry on Sun Jan 8 17:36:02 2023
    On Sunday, January 8, 2023 at 6:10:19 PM UTC-3, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Sunday, January 8, 2023 at 12:42:46 PM UTC-8, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 3:43:35 PM UTC-5, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 10:17:37 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    'Scientists at the recently opened SETI Post-Detection Hub at the University of St Andrews in Scotland have a daunting task ahead of them: figure out what the hell to do if we were ever to make contact with an intelligent extraterrestrial
    civilization.

    If aliens got in touch tomorrow, they warn, humanity would be woefully ill-prepared — something they say needs to change as soon as possible.

    "Look at the mess we made when COVID hit," John Elliott, a computational linguist at the University of St Andrews and coordinator of the Post-Detection Hub, told The Guardian. "We’d be like headless chickens."

    "We cannot afford to be ill-prepared, scientifically, socially, and politically rudderless," he added, "for an event that could happen at any time and which we cannot afford to mismanage."
    https://futurism.com/the-byte/scientists-worried-humankind-chaos-discovering-alien-signal


    Q. How often has any civilization in human history ever made contact with a more advanced civilization and benefitted from it? Very few exceptions.
    .

    Quite often, actually. Remote tribes in Africa, South America, and a few isolated South Pacific islands; that had never had contact with the rest of the world, did rather well after contact.
    'Rather well' in what sense?
    .
    Additional protection and medical help.
    .
    This is going to be one of those threads where Jerry will dig more and more below himself trying to justify a statement of his. Go on guys.

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to Tim Norfolk on Mon Jan 9 11:04:04 2023
    On Sunday, January 8, 2023 at 4:09:42 PM UTC-8, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Sunday, January 8, 2023 at 4:10:19 PM UTC-5, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Sunday, January 8, 2023 at 12:42:46 PM UTC-8, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 3:43:35 PM UTC-5, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 10:17:37 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    'Scientists at the recently opened SETI Post-Detection Hub at the University of St Andrews in Scotland have a daunting task ahead of them: figure out what the hell to do if we were ever to make contact with an intelligent extraterrestrial
    civilization.

    If aliens got in touch tomorrow, they warn, humanity would be woefully ill-prepared — something they say needs to change as soon as possible.

    "Look at the mess we made when COVID hit," John Elliott, a computational linguist at the University of St Andrews and coordinator of the Post-Detection Hub, told The Guardian. "We’d be like headless chickens."

    "We cannot afford to be ill-prepared, scientifically, socially, and politically rudderless," he added, "for an event that could happen at any time and which we cannot afford to mismanage."
    https://futurism.com/the-byte/scientists-worried-humankind-chaos-discovering-alien-signal


    Q. How often has any civilization in human history ever made contact with a more advanced civilization and benefitted from it? Very few exceptions.
    .

    Quite often, actually. Remote tribes in Africa, South America, and a few isolated South Pacific islands; that had never had contact with the rest of the world, did rather well after contact.
    'Rather well' in what sense?
    .

    Additional protection and medical help.
    .
    .
    Most had large percentages dead of introduced diseases, many were enslaved and the rest had their cultures destroyed.
    Many became extinct, at least as cultures.
    .

    The question I was answering was above: "How often has any civilization in human history ever made
    contact with a more advanced civilization and benefitted from it? Very few exceptions'.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to Grunty on Mon Jan 9 11:06:40 2023
    On Sunday, January 8, 2023 at 5:36:06 PM UTC-8, Grunty wrote:
    On Sunday, January 8, 2023 at 6:10:19 PM UTC-3, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Sunday, January 8, 2023 at 12:42:46 PM UTC-8, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 3:43:35 PM UTC-5, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 10:17:37 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    'Scientists at the recently opened SETI Post-Detection Hub at the University of St Andrews in Scotland have a daunting task ahead of them: figure out what the hell to do if we were ever to make contact with an intelligent extraterrestrial
    civilization.

    If aliens got in touch tomorrow, they warn, humanity would be woefully ill-prepared — something they say needs to change as soon as possible.

    "Look at the mess we made when COVID hit," John Elliott, a computational linguist at the University of St Andrews and coordinator of the Post-Detection Hub, told The Guardian. "We’d be like headless chickens."

    "We cannot afford to be ill-prepared, scientifically, socially, and politically rudderless," he added, "for an event that could happen at any time and which we cannot afford to mismanage."
    https://futurism.com/the-byte/scientists-worried-humankind-chaos-discovering-alien-signal


    Q. How often has any civilization in human history ever made contact with a more advanced civilization and benefitted from it? Very few exceptions.
    .

    Quite often, actually. Remote tribes in Africa, South America, and a few isolated South Pacific islands; that had never had contact with the rest of the world, did rather well after contact.
    'Rather well' in what sense?
    .
    Additional protection and medical help.
    .
    This is going to be one of those threads where Jerry will dig more and more below himself trying to justify a statement of his. Go on guys.
    .

    This is going to be one of post where the idiot can't enter the conversation because of subject ignorance,
    so will create worthless static..

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  • From Tim Norfolk@21:1/5 to VegasJerry on Mon Jan 9 12:13:13 2023
    On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 2:04:08 PM UTC-5, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Sunday, January 8, 2023 at 4:09:42 PM UTC-8, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Sunday, January 8, 2023 at 4:10:19 PM UTC-5, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Sunday, January 8, 2023 at 12:42:46 PM UTC-8, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 3:43:35 PM UTC-5, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 10:17:37 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    'Scientists at the recently opened SETI Post-Detection Hub at the University of St Andrews in Scotland have a daunting task ahead of them: figure out what the hell to do if we were ever to make contact with an intelligent extraterrestrial
    civilization.

    If aliens got in touch tomorrow, they warn, humanity would be woefully ill-prepared — something they say needs to change as soon as possible.

    "Look at the mess we made when COVID hit," John Elliott, a computational linguist at the University of St Andrews and coordinator of the Post-Detection Hub, told The Guardian. "We’d be like headless chickens."

    "We cannot afford to be ill-prepared, scientifically, socially, and politically rudderless," he added, "for an event that could happen at any time and which we cannot afford to mismanage."
    https://futurism.com/the-byte/scientists-worried-humankind-chaos-discovering-alien-signal


    Q. How often has any civilization in human history ever made contact with a more advanced civilization and benefitted from it? Very few exceptions.
    .

    Quite often, actually. Remote tribes in Africa, South America, and a few isolated South Pacific islands; that had never had contact with the rest of the world, did rather well after contact.
    'Rather well' in what sense?
    .

    Additional protection and medical help.
    .
    .
    Most had large percentages dead of introduced diseases, many were enslaved and the rest had their cultures destroyed.
    Many became extinct, at least as cultures.
    .

    The question I was answering was above: "How often has any civilization in human history ever made
    contact with a more advanced civilization and benefitted from it? Very few exceptions'.

    Disregarding the jumbled nature of your reply, the actual historical answer is that most humans who were contacted by 'more advanced' ones did very poorly, from the Americas, through Africa, Asia, Europe (start with 3 million Gauls enslaved and killed by
    Julius Caesar), the island nations, Australia, New Zealand.

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  • From RichD@21:1/5 to risky biz on Mon Jan 9 14:23:24 2023
    On January 7, risky biz wrote:
    How often has any civilization in human history ever made contact with a more advanced
    civilization and benefitted from it?

    Plumbing is an invention of (White) European civilization - https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/05/asia/india-modi-open-defecation-free-intl-hnk-scli/


    And 'remote tribes' and 'isolated islands' aren't exactly 'civilizations'

    Did those remote tribes know they were remote, before discovery?

    Native Americans were a widespread culture. Was the net result of contact positive?

    Lots of jobs as school mascots and extras in John Wayne movies -

    --
    Rich

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to Tim Norfolk on Mon Jan 9 16:29:27 2023
    On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 12:13:17 PM UTC-8, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 2:04:08 PM UTC-5, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Sunday, January 8, 2023 at 4:09:42 PM UTC-8, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Sunday, January 8, 2023 at 4:10:19 PM UTC-5, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Sunday, January 8, 2023 at 12:42:46 PM UTC-8, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 3:43:35 PM UTC-5, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 10:17:37 AM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    'Scientists at the recently opened SETI Post-Detection Hub at the University of St Andrews in Scotland have a daunting task ahead of them: figure out what the hell to do if we were ever to make contact with an intelligent extraterrestrial
    civilization.

    If aliens got in touch tomorrow, they warn, humanity would be woefully ill-prepared — something they say needs to change as soon as possible.

    "Look at the mess we made when COVID hit," John Elliott, a computational linguist at the University of St Andrews and coordinator of the Post-Detection Hub, told The Guardian. "We’d be like headless chickens."

    "We cannot afford to be ill-prepared, scientifically, socially, and politically rudderless," he added, "for an event that could happen at any time and which we cannot afford to mismanage."
    https://futurism.com/the-byte/scientists-worried-humankind-chaos-discovering-alien-signal


    Q. How often has any civilization in human history ever made contact with a more advanced civilization and benefitted from it? Very few exceptions.
    .

    Quite often, actually. Remote tribes in Africa, South America, and a few isolated South Pacific islands; that had never had contact with the rest of the world, did rather well after contact.
    'Rather well' in what sense?
    .

    Additional protection and medical help.
    .
    .
    Most had large percentages dead of introduced diseases, many were enslaved and the rest had their cultures destroyed.
    Many became extinct, at least as cultures.
    .

    The question I was answering was above: "How often has any civilization in human history ever made
    contact with a more advanced civilization and benefitted from it? Very few exceptions'.
    Disregarding the jumbled nature of your reply, the actual historical answer is that most humans who were contacted by 'more advanced' ones did very poorly, from the Americas, through Africa, Asia, Europe (start with 3 million Gauls enslaved and killed
    by Julius Caesar), the island nations, Australia, New Zealand.
    .

    What was 'jumbled' about it? You simply tossed in "most" and added your own 'jumble.'

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  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jan 9 16:43:20 2023
    Here's an interesting flic.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-GtM2XvWNw

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  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to RichD on Mon Jan 9 17:14:14 2023
    On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 2:23:28 PM UTC-8, RichD wrote:
    On January 7, risky biz wrote:
    How often has any civilization in human history ever made contact with a more advanced
    civilization and benefitted from it?


    ~ Plumbing is an invention of (White) European civilization -


    LOL. Don't bet on it. The 'Middle East' had plumbing thousands of years before Europeans ever heard of it. It took hundreds of years to convince Europeans to bathe regularly and a lot of them STILL won't.


    https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/05/asia/india-modi-open-defecation-free-intl-hnk-scli/
    And 'remote tribes' and 'isolated islands' aren't exactly 'civilizations'
    Did those remote tribes know they were remote, before discovery?
    Native Americans were a widespread culture. Was the net result of contact positive?
    Lots of jobs as school mascots and extras in John Wayne movies -

    --
    Rich

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  • From Tim Norfolk@21:1/5 to risky biz on Mon Jan 9 18:06:12 2023
    On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 8:14:18 PM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 2:23:28 PM UTC-8, RichD wrote:
    On January 7, risky biz wrote:
    How often has any civilization in human history ever made contact with a more advanced
    civilization and benefitted from it?
    ~ Plumbing is an invention of (White) European civilization -


    LOL. Don't bet on it. The 'Middle East' had plumbing thousands of years before Europeans ever heard of it. It took hundreds of years to convince Europeans to bathe regularly and a lot of them STILL won't.
    https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/05/asia/india-modi-open-defecation-free-intl-hnk-scli/
    And 'remote tribes' and 'isolated islands' aren't exactly 'civilizations'
    Did those remote tribes know they were remote, before discovery?
    Native Americans were a widespread culture. Was the net result of contact positive?
    Lots of jobs as school mascots and extras in John Wayne movies -

    --
    Rich

    So did China, but Rome seems to be one of the earliest.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to Tim Norfolk on Tue Jan 10 07:51:47 2023
    On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 6:06:16 PM UTC-8, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 8:14:18 PM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 2:23:28 PM UTC-8, RichD wrote:
    On January 7, risky biz wrote:
    How often has any civilization in human history ever made contact with a more advanced
    civilization and benefitted from it?
    ~ Plumbing is an invention of (White) European civilization -


    LOL. Don't bet on it. The 'Middle East' had plumbing thousands of years before Europeans ever heard of it. It took hundreds of years to convince Europeans to bathe regularly and a lot of them STILL won't.
    https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/05/asia/india-modi-open-defecation-free-intl-hnk-scli/
    And 'remote tribes' and 'isolated islands' aren't exactly 'civilizations'
    Did those remote tribes know they were remote, before discovery?
    Native Americans were a widespread culture. Was the net result of contact positive?
    Lots of jobs as school mascots and extras in John Wayne movies -

    --
    Rich


    ~ So did China, but Rome seems to be one of the earliest.


    The Romans adopted public baths after being exposed to them in the 'Middle East'.

    Archaeolgy has identified indoor plumbing in upper class Egyptian homes prior to 1300 B.C.

    Thomas Edison believed that it was unhealthy to bathe.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Tim Norfolk@21:1/5 to risky biz on Tue Jan 10 14:06:53 2023
    On Tuesday, January 10, 2023 at 10:51:51 AM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 6:06:16 PM UTC-8, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 8:14:18 PM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 2:23:28 PM UTC-8, RichD wrote:
    On January 7, risky biz wrote:
    How often has any civilization in human history ever made contact with a more advanced
    civilization and benefitted from it?
    ~ Plumbing is an invention of (White) European civilization -


    LOL. Don't bet on it. The 'Middle East' had plumbing thousands of years before Europeans ever heard of it. It took hundreds of years to convince Europeans to bathe regularly and a lot of them STILL won't.
    https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/05/asia/india-modi-open-defecation-free-intl-hnk-scli/
    And 'remote tribes' and 'isolated islands' aren't exactly 'civilizations'
    Did those remote tribes know they were remote, before discovery?
    Native Americans were a widespread culture. Was the net result of contact positive?
    Lots of jobs as school mascots and extras in John Wayne movies -

    --
    Rich
    ~ So did China, but Rome seems to be one of the earliest.


    The Romans adopted public baths after being exposed to them in the 'Middle East'.

    Archaeolgy has identified indoor plumbing in upper class Egyptian homes prior to 1300 B.C.

    Thomas Edison believed that it was unhealthy to bathe.

    I know quite a few men who won't brush their teeth. Fairly nasty.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to Tim Norfolk on Wed Jan 11 13:02:18 2023
    On Tuesday, January 10, 2023 at 2:06:57 PM UTC-8, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 10, 2023 at 10:51:51 AM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 6:06:16 PM UTC-8, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 8:14:18 PM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 2:23:28 PM UTC-8, RichD wrote:
    On January 7, risky biz wrote:
    How often has any civilization in human history ever made contact with a more advanced
    civilization and benefitted from it?
    ~ Plumbing is an invention of (White) European civilization -


    LOL. Don't bet on it. The 'Middle East' had plumbing thousands of years before Europeans ever heard of it. It took hundreds of years to convince Europeans to bathe regularly and a lot of them STILL won't.
    https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/05/asia/india-modi-open-defecation-free-intl-hnk-scli/
    And 'remote tribes' and 'isolated islands' aren't exactly 'civilizations'
    Did those remote tribes know they were remote, before discovery?
    Native Americans were a widespread culture. Was the net result of contact positive?
    Lots of jobs as school mascots and extras in John Wayne movies -

    --
    Rich
    ~ So did China, but Rome seems to be one of the earliest.


    The Romans adopted public baths after being exposed to them in the 'Middle East'.

    Archaeolgy has identified indoor plumbing in upper class Egyptian homes prior to 1300 B.C.

    Thomas Edison believed that it was unhealthy to bathe.


    ~ I know quite a few men who won't brush their teeth. Fairly nasty.


    You're hanging around with the wrong people.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From BTSinAustin@21:1/5 to Tim Norfolk on Wed Jan 11 12:18:56 2023
    On Tuesday, January 10, 2023 at 5:06:57 PM UTC-5, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 10, 2023 at 10:51:51 AM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 6:06:16 PM UTC-8, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 8:14:18 PM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 2:23:28 PM UTC-8, RichD wrote:
    On January 7, risky biz wrote:
    How often has any civilization in human history ever made contact with a more advanced
    civilization and benefitted from it?
    ~ Plumbing is an invention of (White) European civilization -


    LOL. Don't bet on it. The 'Middle East' had plumbing thousands of years before Europeans ever heard of it. It took hundreds of years to convince Europeans to bathe regularly and a lot of them STILL won't.
    https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/05/asia/india-modi-open-defecation-free-intl-hnk-scli/
    And 'remote tribes' and 'isolated islands' aren't exactly 'civilizations'
    Did those remote tribes know they were remote, before discovery?
    Native Americans were a widespread culture. Was the net result of contact positive?
    Lots of jobs as school mascots and extras in John Wayne movies -

    --
    Rich
    ~ So did China, but Rome seems to be one of the earliest.


    The Romans adopted public baths after being exposed to them in the 'Middle East'.

    Archaeolgy has identified indoor plumbing in upper class Egyptian homes prior to 1300 B.C.

    Thomas Edison believed that it was unhealthy to bathe.
    I know quite a few men who won't brush their teeth. Fairly nasty.

    That's a self solving problem

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From RichD@21:1/5 to Tim Norfolk on Wed Jan 11 13:06:57 2023
    On January 10, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    It took hundreds of years to convince Europeans to bathe regularly
    and a lot of them STILL won't.

    So when they come out of the gym, all sweaty, they dress
    without showering?

    I know quite a few men who won't brush their teeth. Fairly nasty.

    What do their wives think about that?

    --
    Rich

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to risky biz on Wed Jan 11 16:37:50 2023
    On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 1:02:22 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 10, 2023 at 2:06:57 PM UTC-8, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 10, 2023 at 10:51:51 AM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 6:06:16 PM UTC-8, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 8:14:18 PM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 2:23:28 PM UTC-8, RichD wrote:
    On January 7, risky biz wrote:
    How often has any civilization in human history ever made contact with a more advanced
    civilization and benefitted from it?
    ~ Plumbing is an invention of (White) European civilization -


    LOL. Don't bet on it. The 'Middle East' had plumbing thousands of years before Europeans ever heard of it. It took hundreds of years to convince Europeans to bathe regularly and a lot of them STILL won't.
    https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/05/asia/india-modi-open-defecation-free-intl-hnk-scli/
    And 'remote tribes' and 'isolated islands' aren't exactly 'civilizations'
    Did those remote tribes know they were remote, before discovery?
    Native Americans were a widespread culture. Was the net result of contact positive?
    Lots of jobs as school mascots and extras in John Wayne movies -

    --
    Rich
    ~ So did China, but Rome seems to be one of the earliest.


    The Romans adopted public baths after being exposed to them in the 'Middle East'.

    Archaeolgy has identified indoor plumbing in upper class Egyptian homes prior to 1300 B.C.

    Thomas Edison believed that it was unhealthy to bathe.
    ~ I know quite a few men who won't brush their teeth. Fairly nasty.


    You're hanging around with the wrong people.
    .

    I wonder if this is a class thing. The English are famous for not taking care of their teeth.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to RichD on Wed Jan 11 16:40:19 2023
    On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 1:07:01 PM UTC-8, RichD wrote:
    On January 10, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    It took hundreds of years to convince Europeans to bathe regularly
    and a lot of them STILL won't.
    So when they come out of the gym, all sweaty, they dress
    without showering?
    I know quite a few men who won't brush their teeth. Fairly nasty.
    What do their wives think about that?

    --
    Rich
    .

    This too may be a culture thing. At my club, I've seen a 'class of people,' (race not designated) come
    Stright out of the steam room, dry themselves off, then go and dress.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Tim Norfolk@21:1/5 to VegasJerry on Wed Jan 11 18:40:12 2023
    On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 7:37:54 PM UTC-5, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 1:02:22 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 10, 2023 at 2:06:57 PM UTC-8, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 10, 2023 at 10:51:51 AM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 6:06:16 PM UTC-8, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 8:14:18 PM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 2:23:28 PM UTC-8, RichD wrote:
    On January 7, risky biz wrote:
    How often has any civilization in human history ever made contact with a more advanced
    civilization and benefitted from it?
    ~ Plumbing is an invention of (White) European civilization -


    LOL. Don't bet on it. The 'Middle East' had plumbing thousands of years before Europeans ever heard of it. It took hundreds of years to convince Europeans to bathe regularly and a lot of them STILL won't.
    https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/05/asia/india-modi-open-defecation-free-intl-hnk-scli/
    And 'remote tribes' and 'isolated islands' aren't exactly 'civilizations'
    Did those remote tribes know they were remote, before discovery?
    Native Americans were a widespread culture. Was the net result of contact positive?
    Lots of jobs as school mascots and extras in John Wayne movies -

    --
    Rich
    ~ So did China, but Rome seems to be one of the earliest.


    The Romans adopted public baths after being exposed to them in the 'Middle East'.

    Archaeolgy has identified indoor plumbing in upper class Egyptian homes prior to 1300 B.C.

    Thomas Edison believed that it was unhealthy to bathe.
    ~ I know quite a few men who won't brush their teeth. Fairly nasty.


    You're hanging around with the wrong people.
    .

    I wonder if this is a class thing. The English are famous for not taking care of their teeth.

    These are Ohioans. As it happens, English children have some of the World's best teeth, measured by cavities and the WHO.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Tim Norfolk@21:1/5 to RichD on Wed Jan 11 18:38:58 2023
    On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 4:07:01 PM UTC-5, RichD wrote:
    On January 10, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    It took hundreds of years to convince Europeans to bathe regularly
    and a lot of them STILL won't.
    So when they come out of the gym, all sweaty, they dress
    without showering?
    I know quite a few men who won't brush their teeth. Fairly nasty.
    What do their wives think about that?

    --
    Rich

    I haven't a clue. One has quite a hot wife.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From BTSinAustin@21:1/5 to VegasJerry on Fri Jan 13 10:22:24 2023
    On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 7:37:54 PM UTC-5, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 1:02:22 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 10, 2023 at 2:06:57 PM UTC-8, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 10, 2023 at 10:51:51 AM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 6:06:16 PM UTC-8, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 8:14:18 PM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 2:23:28 PM UTC-8, RichD wrote:
    On January 7, risky biz wrote:
    How often has any civilization in human history ever made contact with a more advanced
    civilization and benefitted from it?
    ~ Plumbing is an invention of (White) European civilization -


    LOL. Don't bet on it. The 'Middle East' had plumbing thousands of years before Europeans ever heard of it. It took hundreds of years to convince Europeans to bathe regularly and a lot of them STILL won't.
    https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/05/asia/india-modi-open-defecation-free-intl-hnk-scli/
    And 'remote tribes' and 'isolated islands' aren't exactly 'civilizations'
    Did those remote tribes know they were remote, before discovery?
    Native Americans were a widespread culture. Was the net result of contact positive?
    Lots of jobs as school mascots and extras in John Wayne movies -

    --
    Rich
    ~ So did China, but Rome seems to be one of the earliest.


    The Romans adopted public baths after being exposed to them in the 'Middle East'.

    Archaeolgy has identified indoor plumbing in upper class Egyptian homes prior to 1300 B.C.

    Thomas Edison believed that it was unhealthy to bathe.
    ~ I know quite a few men who won't brush their teeth. Fairly nasty.


    You're hanging around with the wrong people.
    .

    I wonder if this is a class thing. The English are famous for not taking care of their teeth.

    I read an article years ago that blamed the post-WWII nutrition shortages for the English dental problems.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to BTSinAustin on Fri Jan 13 11:41:36 2023
    On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 10:22:27 AM UTC-8, BTSinAustin wrote:
    On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 7:37:54 PM UTC-5, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 1:02:22 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 10, 2023 at 2:06:57 PM UTC-8, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 10, 2023 at 10:51:51 AM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 6:06:16 PM UTC-8, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 8:14:18 PM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 2:23:28 PM UTC-8, RichD wrote:
    On January 7, risky biz wrote:
    How often has any civilization in human history ever made contact with a more advanced
    civilization and benefitted from it?
    ~ Plumbing is an invention of (White) European civilization -


    LOL. Don't bet on it. The 'Middle East' had plumbing thousands of years before Europeans ever heard of it. It took hundreds of years to convince Europeans to bathe regularly and a lot of them STILL won't.
    https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/05/asia/india-modi-open-defecation-free-intl-hnk-scli/
    And 'remote tribes' and 'isolated islands' aren't exactly 'civilizations'
    Did those remote tribes know they were remote, before discovery?
    Native Americans were a widespread culture. Was the net result of contact positive?
    Lots of jobs as school mascots and extras in John Wayne movies -

    --
    Rich
    ~ So did China, but Rome seems to be one of the earliest.


    The Romans adopted public baths after being exposed to them in the 'Middle East'.

    Archaeolgy has identified indoor plumbing in upper class Egyptian homes prior to 1300 B.C.

    Thomas Edison believed that it was unhealthy to bathe.
    ~ I know quite a few men who won't brush their teeth. Fairly nasty.


    You're hanging around with the wrong people.
    .

    I wonder if this is a class thing. The English are famous for not taking care of their teeth.


    ~ I read an article years ago that blamed the post-WWII nutrition shortages for the English dental problems.


    Camilla Bowles had a nutrition shortage?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to BTSinAustin on Fri Jan 13 12:07:22 2023
    On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 10:22:27 AM UTC-8, BTSinAustin wrote:
    On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 7:37:54 PM UTC-5, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 1:02:22 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 10, 2023 at 2:06:57 PM UTC-8, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 10, 2023 at 10:51:51 AM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 6:06:16 PM UTC-8, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 8:14:18 PM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 2:23:28 PM UTC-8, RichD wrote:
    On January 7, risky biz wrote:
    How often has any civilization in human history ever made contact with a more advanced
    civilization and benefitted from it?
    ~ Plumbing is an invention of (White) European civilization -


    LOL. Don't bet on it. The 'Middle East' had plumbing thousands of years before Europeans ever heard of it. It took hundreds of years to convince Europeans to bathe regularly and a lot of them STILL won't.
    https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/05/asia/india-modi-open-defecation-free-intl-hnk-scli/
    And 'remote tribes' and 'isolated islands' aren't exactly 'civilizations'
    Did those remote tribes know they were remote, before discovery?
    Native Americans were a widespread culture. Was the net result of contact positive?
    Lots of jobs as school mascots and extras in John Wayne movies -

    --
    Rich
    ~ So did China, but Rome seems to be one of the earliest.


    The Romans adopted public baths after being exposed to them in the 'Middle East'.

    Archaeolgy has identified indoor plumbing in upper class Egyptian homes prior to 1300 B.C.

    Thomas Edison believed that it was unhealthy to bathe.
    ~ I know quite a few men who won't brush their teeth. Fairly nasty.


    You're hanging around with the wrong people.
    .

    I wonder if this is a class thing. The English are famous for not taking care of their teeth.
    .
    I read an article years ago that blamed the post-WWII nutrition shortages for the English dental problems.

    That's a new one. I'd never heard that. If it wasn't too long ago, do you remember who authored the article?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From risky biz@21:1/5 to VegasJerry on Fri Jan 13 12:11:06 2023
    On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 12:07:26 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 10:22:27 AM UTC-8, BTSinAustin wrote:
    On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 7:37:54 PM UTC-5, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 1:02:22 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 10, 2023 at 2:06:57 PM UTC-8, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 10, 2023 at 10:51:51 AM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 6:06:16 PM UTC-8, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 8:14:18 PM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 2:23:28 PM UTC-8, RichD wrote:
    On January 7, risky biz wrote:
    How often has any civilization in human history ever made contact with a more advanced
    civilization and benefitted from it?
    ~ Plumbing is an invention of (White) European civilization -


    LOL. Don't bet on it. The 'Middle East' had plumbing thousands of years before Europeans ever heard of it. It took hundreds of years to convince Europeans to bathe regularly and a lot of them STILL won't.
    https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/05/asia/india-modi-open-defecation-free-intl-hnk-scli/
    And 'remote tribes' and 'isolated islands' aren't exactly 'civilizations'
    Did those remote tribes know they were remote, before discovery?
    Native Americans were a widespread culture. Was the net result of contact positive?
    Lots of jobs as school mascots and extras in John Wayne movies -

    --
    Rich
    ~ So did China, but Rome seems to be one of the earliest.


    The Romans adopted public baths after being exposed to them in the 'Middle East'.

    Archaeolgy has identified indoor plumbing in upper class Egyptian homes prior to 1300 B.C.

    Thomas Edison believed that it was unhealthy to bathe.
    ~ I know quite a few men who won't brush their teeth. Fairly nasty.


    You're hanging around with the wrong people.
    .

    I wonder if this is a class thing. The English are famous for not taking care of their teeth.
    .

    I read an article years ago that blamed the post-WWII nutrition shortages for the English dental problems.


    ~ That's a new one. I'd never heard that. If it wasn't too long ago, do you remember who authored the article?


    Wasn't that covered in the Commercial Pilot training course you took on Thursday?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From VegasJerry@21:1/5 to risky biz on Fri Jan 13 12:33:27 2023
    On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 12:11:10 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 12:07:26 PM UTC-8, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 10:22:27 AM UTC-8, BTSinAustin wrote:
    On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 7:37:54 PM UTC-5, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 1:02:22 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 10, 2023 at 2:06:57 PM UTC-8, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 10, 2023 at 10:51:51 AM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 6:06:16 PM UTC-8, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 8:14:18 PM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 2:23:28 PM UTC-8, RichD wrote:
    On January 7, risky biz wrote:
    How often has any civilization in human history ever made contact with a more advanced
    civilization and benefitted from it?
    ~ Plumbing is an invention of (White) European civilization -


    LOL. Don't bet on it. The 'Middle East' had plumbing thousands of years before Europeans ever heard of it. It took hundreds of years to convince Europeans to bathe regularly and a lot of them STILL won't.
    https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/05/asia/india-modi-open-defecation-free-intl-hnk-scli/
    And 'remote tribes' and 'isolated islands' aren't exactly 'civilizations'
    Did those remote tribes know they were remote, before discovery?
    Native Americans were a widespread culture. Was the net result of contact positive?
    Lots of jobs as school mascots and extras in John Wayne movies -

    --
    Rich
    ~ So did China, but Rome seems to be one of the earliest.


    The Romans adopted public baths after being exposed to them in the 'Middle East'.

    Archaeolgy has identified indoor plumbing in upper class Egyptian homes prior to 1300 B.C.

    Thomas Edison believed that it was unhealthy to bathe.
    ~ I know quite a few men who won't brush their teeth. Fairly nasty.


    You're hanging around with the wrong people.
    .

    I wonder if this is a class thing. The English are famous for not taking care of their teeth.
    .

    I read an article years ago that blamed the post-WWII nutrition shortages for the English dental problems.
    ~ That's a new one. I'd never heard that. If it wasn't too long ago, do you remember who authored the article?


    Wasn't that covered in the Commercial Pilot training course you took on Thursday?
    .

    Heh. You still stinging from that bitch-slap?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From RichD@21:1/5 to BTSinAustin on Fri Jan 13 13:00:51 2023
    On January 13, BTSinAustin wrote:
    Archaeolgy has identified indoor plumbing in upper class Egyptian homes prior to 1300 B.C.

    With electric pumps and septic tanks?


    I read an article years ago that blamed the post-WWII nutrition shortages for the English dental problems.

    Sugar deficiency?

    --
    Rich

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Tim Norfolk@21:1/5 to BTSinAustin on Fri Jan 13 17:45:39 2023
    On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 1:22:27 PM UTC-5, BTSinAustin wrote:
    On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 7:37:54 PM UTC-5, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 1:02:22 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 10, 2023 at 2:06:57 PM UTC-8, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 10, 2023 at 10:51:51 AM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 6:06:16 PM UTC-8, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 8:14:18 PM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 2:23:28 PM UTC-8, RichD wrote:
    On January 7, risky biz wrote:
    How often has any civilization in human history ever made contact with a more advanced
    civilization and benefitted from it?
    ~ Plumbing is an invention of (White) European civilization -


    LOL. Don't bet on it. The 'Middle East' had plumbing thousands of years before Europeans ever heard of it. It took hundreds of years to convince Europeans to bathe regularly and a lot of them STILL won't.
    https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/05/asia/india-modi-open-defecation-free-intl-hnk-scli/
    And 'remote tribes' and 'isolated islands' aren't exactly 'civilizations'
    Did those remote tribes know they were remote, before discovery?
    Native Americans were a widespread culture. Was the net result of contact positive?
    Lots of jobs as school mascots and extras in John Wayne movies -

    --
    Rich
    ~ So did China, but Rome seems to be one of the earliest.


    The Romans adopted public baths after being exposed to them in the 'Middle East'.

    Archaeolgy has identified indoor plumbing in upper class Egyptian homes prior to 1300 B.C.

    Thomas Edison believed that it was unhealthy to bathe.
    ~ I know quite a few men who won't brush their teeth. Fairly nasty.


    You're hanging around with the wrong people.
    .

    I wonder if this is a class thing. The English are famous for not taking care of their teeth.
    I read an article years ago that blamed the post-WWII nutrition shortages for the English dental problems.

    It's certainly plausible. I was born in 1957, with our first few houses having an outhouse, and most of the rest into my teen years with no central heat, just a fireplace in the living room and big stove in the kitchen. Most people were relatively poor.
    We never had a car or washing machine, and only got a telephone when I was 19.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From BillB@21:1/5 to Tim Norfolk on Fri Jan 13 18:06:50 2023
    On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 5:45:43 PM UTC-8, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 1:22:27 PM UTC-5, BTSinAustin wrote:
    On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 7:37:54 PM UTC-5, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 1:02:22 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 10, 2023 at 2:06:57 PM UTC-8, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 10, 2023 at 10:51:51 AM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 6:06:16 PM UTC-8, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 8:14:18 PM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 2:23:28 PM UTC-8, RichD wrote:
    On January 7, risky biz wrote:
    How often has any civilization in human history ever made contact with a more advanced
    civilization and benefitted from it?
    ~ Plumbing is an invention of (White) European civilization -


    LOL. Don't bet on it. The 'Middle East' had plumbing thousands of years before Europeans ever heard of it. It took hundreds of years to convince Europeans to bathe regularly and a lot of them STILL won't.
    https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/05/asia/india-modi-open-defecation-free-intl-hnk-scli/
    And 'remote tribes' and 'isolated islands' aren't exactly 'civilizations'
    Did those remote tribes know they were remote, before discovery?
    Native Americans were a widespread culture. Was the net result of contact positive?
    Lots of jobs as school mascots and extras in John Wayne movies -

    --
    Rich
    ~ So did China, but Rome seems to be one of the earliest.


    The Romans adopted public baths after being exposed to them in the 'Middle East'.

    Archaeolgy has identified indoor plumbing in upper class Egyptian homes prior to 1300 B.C.

    Thomas Edison believed that it was unhealthy to bathe.
    ~ I know quite a few men who won't brush their teeth. Fairly nasty.


    You're hanging around with the wrong people.
    .

    I wonder if this is a class thing. The English are famous for not taking care of their teeth.
    I read an article years ago that blamed the post-WWII nutrition shortages for the English dental problems.
    It's certainly plausible. I was born in 1957, with our first few houses having an outhouse, and most of the rest into my teen years with no central heat, just a fireplace in the living room and big stove in the kitchen. Most people were relatively poor.
    We never had a car or washing machine, and only got a telephone when I was 19.

    We used to dream of having a fireplace! Woulda been a palace to us. We used to live in an old water tank on a rubbish tip. We got woke up every morning by having a load of rotting fish dumped all over us!

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  • From Tim Norfolk@21:1/5 to BillB on Fri Jan 13 20:05:48 2023
    On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 9:06:53 PM UTC-5, BillB wrote:
    On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 5:45:43 PM UTC-8, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 1:22:27 PM UTC-5, BTSinAustin wrote:
    On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 7:37:54 PM UTC-5, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 1:02:22 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 10, 2023 at 2:06:57 PM UTC-8, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 10, 2023 at 10:51:51 AM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 6:06:16 PM UTC-8, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 8:14:18 PM UTC-5, risky biz wrote:
    On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 2:23:28 PM UTC-8, RichD wrote:
    On January 7, risky biz wrote:
    How often has any civilization in human history ever made contact with a more advanced
    civilization and benefitted from it?
    ~ Plumbing is an invention of (White) European civilization -


    LOL. Don't bet on it. The 'Middle East' had plumbing thousands of years before Europeans ever heard of it. It took hundreds of years to convince Europeans to bathe regularly and a lot of them STILL won't.
    https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/05/asia/india-modi-open-defecation-free-intl-hnk-scli/
    And 'remote tribes' and 'isolated islands' aren't exactly 'civilizations'
    Did those remote tribes know they were remote, before discovery?
    Native Americans were a widespread culture. Was the net result of contact positive?
    Lots of jobs as school mascots and extras in John Wayne movies -

    --
    Rich
    ~ So did China, but Rome seems to be one of the earliest.


    The Romans adopted public baths after being exposed to them in the 'Middle East'.

    Archaeolgy has identified indoor plumbing in upper class Egyptian homes prior to 1300 B.C.

    Thomas Edison believed that it was unhealthy to bathe.
    ~ I know quite a few men who won't brush their teeth. Fairly nasty.


    You're hanging around with the wrong people.
    .

    I wonder if this is a class thing. The English are famous for not taking care of their teeth.
    I read an article years ago that blamed the post-WWII nutrition shortages for the English dental problems.
    It's certainly plausible. I was born in 1957, with our first few houses having an outhouse, and most of the rest into my teen years with no central heat, just a fireplace in the living room and big stove in the kitchen. Most people were relatively
    poor. We never had a car or washing machine, and only got a telephone when I was 19.
    We used to dream of having a fireplace! Woulda been a palace to us. We used to live in an old water tank on a rubbish tip. We got woke up every morning by having a load of rotting fish dumped all over us!

    I take it that you are a Monty Python fan.

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  • From BillB@21:1/5 to Tim Norfolk on Fri Jan 13 21:22:40 2023
    On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 8:05:54 PM UTC-8, Tim Norfolk wrote:

    I take it that you are a Monty Python fan.

    My sister bought me the Live at Drury Lane album for Christmas when it first came out. I guess I would have been nine or ten. I think I wore it out.

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  • From da pickle@21:1/5 to BillB on Sat Jan 14 08:33:50 2023
    On 1/13/2023 8:06 PM, BillB wrote:
    On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 5:45:43 PM UTC-8, Tim Norfolk wrote:
    On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 1:22:27 PM UTC-5, BTSinAustin wrote:
    On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 7:37:54 PM UTC-5, VegasJerry wrote:
    On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 1:02:22 PM UTC-8, risky biz wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 10, 2023 at 2:06:57 PM UTC-8, Tim Norfolk wrote: >>>>>> On Tuesday, January 10, 2023 at 10:51:51 AM UTC-5, risky biz wrote: >>>>>>> On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 6:06:16 PM UTC-8, Tim Norfolk wrote: >>>>>>>> On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 8:14:18 PM UTC-5, risky biz wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 2:23:28 PM UTC-8, RichD wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On January 7, risky biz wrote:
    How often has any civilization in human history ever made contact with a more advanced
    civilization and benefitted from it?
    ~ Plumbing is an invention of (White) European civilization - >>>>>>>>>

    LOL. Don't bet on it. The 'Middle East' had plumbing thousands of years before Europeans ever heard of it. It took hundreds of years to convince Europeans to bathe regularly and a lot of them STILL won't.
    https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/05/asia/india-modi-open-defecation-free-intl-hnk-scli/
    And 'remote tribes' and 'isolated islands' aren't exactly 'civilizations'
    Did those remote tribes know they were remote, before discovery? >>>>>>>>>>> Native Americans were a widespread culture. Was the net result of contact positive?
    Lots of jobs as school mascots and extras in John Wayne movies - >>>>>>>>>>
    --
    Rich
    ~ So did China, but Rome seems to be one of the earliest.


    The Romans adopted public baths after being exposed to them in the 'Middle East'.

    Archaeolgy has identified indoor plumbing in upper class Egyptian homes prior to 1300 B.C.

    Thomas Edison believed that it was unhealthy to bathe.
    ~ I know quite a few men who won't brush their teeth. Fairly nasty.


    You're hanging around with the wrong people.
    .

    I wonder if this is a class thing. The English are famous for not taking care of their teeth.
    I read an article years ago that blamed the post-WWII nutrition shortages for the English dental problems.
    It's certainly plausible. I was born in 1957, with our first few houses having an outhouse, and most of the rest into my teen years with no central heat, just a fireplace in the living room and big stove in the kitchen. Most people were relatively
    poor. We never had a car or washing machine, and only got a telephone when I was 19.

    We used to dream of having a fireplace! Woulda been a palace to us. We used to live in an old water tank on a rubbish tip. We got woke up every morning by having a load of rotting fish dumped all over us!

    Perfect ...

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